After the call to Islam comes the armed conflict. Qur’an 16:125 tells Muslims: “Call them to the way of your Lord with wisdom and beautiful preaching.” In a hadith, Muhammad has been depicted as telling Muslims to follow up the “invitation,” if refused, with a second invitation asking non-Muslims to enter the Islamic social order as dhimmis, with institutionalized second-class status; or if they refuse both, to go to war with them:
“Fight against those who disbelieve in Allah. Make a holy war…When you meet your enemies who are polytheists, invite them to three courses of action. If they respond to any one of these you also accept it and withhold yourself from doing them any harm. Invite them to (accept) Islam; if they respond to you, accept it from them and desist from fighting against them…. If they refuse to accept Islam, demand from them the Jizya. If they agree to pay, accept it from them and hold off your hands. If they refuse to pay the tax, seek Allah’s help and fight them.” (Sahih Muslim 4294)
“Indian Islamic Scholar Salman Husaini El-Nadwi Of IUMS Board Of Trustees: We Must Engage In Jihad By Means Of The Quran, ‘Raid’ Europe, America And Call People To Islam In Every City, Village, Home,” MEMRI, July 22, 2023:
Indian Islamic scholar Salman Husaini El-Nadwi, who is a member of the IUMS Board of Trustees, said in an address posted to the IUMS’s YouTube channel on July 22, 2023 that the Muslims should wage “Jihad by means of the Quran” and follow the example of the Prophet Muhammad, who called people to Islam instead of condemning the corrupt, malicious, and criminal “media”. El-Nadwi said that Muslims should “raid” European countries, America, and all the countries of the world and that they should recite, explain, and sell the Quran in these places. He added: “Inshallah, we will overcome them. We shall raid them in their own turf, by means of Allah’s book.”
Salman Husaini El-Nadwi: “The Muslims, the Prophet Muhammad, and his dignified companions had to face [similar] intense enmity. They had to face the corrupt, malicious, and criminal media in Mecca.
[…]
“What did the Prophet Muhammad do with regard to this corrupt, malicious, and criminal media? The [Muslims] did not condemn, denounce, and utter profanities.
[…]
“Therefore, we should fulfill our duty by calling people to join Islam, in every city, village, neighborhood, and home. We must engage in Islamic da’wa, and educate people about Islam and the Prophet Muhammad. We must engage in Jihad by means of the Quran.
[…]
“The greater Jihad is Jihad by means of the holy Quran. This means that we should raid the European countries, raid America, raid all the countries of the world, raid all the continents, by means of the holy Quran. Raiding by means of the Quran, Jihad by means of the Quran, Quranic da’wa by means of the Quran, reciting the Quran, explaining the Quran, and selling copies of the Quran at universities, colleges, schools, social gatherings and functions, everywhere…
James says
“raid all the countries of the world” I think you should start with China 🤣🤣🤣
maria says
i think Europe and the US should send the muslims from Europe and the US and if they ever come back send them to hell
James says
+1, maria.
Don says
This is an Islamic scholar from India, if he has the guts then shouldn’t he start his raiding and conquering right from India the place where he is? The Modi government will castrate him the moment he opens his mouth.
somehistory says
What “media” was there in the desert sands of so long ago?
Most people, maybe all people, got their “news” by word of mouth.
I’ll not be buying a copy, nor listening to some mozlum creep lying about what it says and what it means and all the other garbage they spew about their evil book of demonic filth.
But his shouting needs to be heard by the average Joe (not biden, as he already knows evil) and Jane, so that they become aware that mozlems are intent on waging their war, here and everywhere. And war always means someone …many ones….die and the rest are expected to submit to the wishes of the victor.
gravenimage says
I was wondering about the “media” in dark ages Mecca, myself…
Kalit says
Islam is swallowing India with increasing speed. It has had the support of the Anglo Americans ever since Indian independence and was joined a later by China to aid this end. The outcome will be infinitely worse than what the US and European sponsorship of China, which has come to haunt them. Once 1.4 billion Indians and their resources are mobilised on behalf of Islam the conquest of the rest of the world won’t be a problem. It will be poetic justice because the West will be responsible for its own destruction. Just consider how the world will look like imitating Pakistan and Afghanistan.
gravenimage says
No one here supports Islam, save a few Muslim apologists. Try again.
EndlessSkies says
You are delusional, Pakistani Indian men descend from the most conquered men in human history conquered by multiple different foreign invaders from far away lands. Enjoy your fantasies. Actually being so delusional to think the descendants of weak men who were conquered and converted by Arab and/or islamized turkic invaders can actually conquer the world? Muslim men lose in every war with non Muslim men, they just left Afghanistan due to stupid biden, far more Taliban were killed than how many us/afghan military were.
The only recent victory was due to Turkish drones in Armenia and the first chechen war due to badly trained Russian conscripts.
But 5+ other wars where Muslim men lost since 1950
tim gallagher says
What a weird planet these insane Muslim “scholars” live on. What a brilliant tactician this warrior for islam and its primitive bullshit is. Yes, let’s invade Europe, America and elsewhere (Muslims are already invading in huge numbers and being let, foolishly, into the western countries) and read and recite the Koran to the people there. That should get them to all fall down and submit to islam. If more people in western countries could hear the vile, evil and hate-filled garbage in the Koran it might have the opposite effect to what this imbecile thinks it would have and people would wake up to islam’s nature and hammer the evil ideology. The Koran is a disgusting, evil book and should be burnt and destroyed more often than is currently occurring.
Michael Copeland says
Indeed. Here are some specimens:
“Kill them”, the Koran commands, concerning non-Muslims, kafirs, “Kill them wherever you find them” (9:5).
“Between us [Muslims] and you enmity and hatred forever” (60:4).
“Let them find harshness in you” (9:123);
“When you meet the kafirs strike the necks. … When you have inflicted slaughter upon them, then take them as captives….” (47:4).
Kafirs are filthy, “the vilest of beasts” (8:55). “Do not take them as allies” (4:89).
Muslims are “the best of peoples raised up for mankind” (3:110). They are “merciful to each other” and “ruthless to the kafir” (48:29).
Kafirs all go to Hell. “But those who disbelieved will have cut out for them garments of fire. Poured upon their heads will be scalding water … By which is melted that within their bellies and [their] skins. … And for them are hooked rods of iron. Every time they want to get out of Hellfire from anguish, they will be returned to it, and [it will be said], “Taste the punishment of the Burning Fire!” (22:19-22).
As Sebastian Faaulks said, “It’s just the rantings of a schizophrenic.”
https://gatesofvienna.net/2019/11/book-reviews-the-koran/
tim gallagher says
Thanks for the very pertinent and revealing quotes, Michael. If only far more people in our societies would wake up to the nature of islam, as the Hungarians, Poles, the Czech and the Slovakians obviously have done, then islam and its followers would cop the sort of treatment it so richly deserves and would be shut out of all civilised, non-Muslim societies. The barbaric knuckle draggers of islam need to be shut out of all non-Muslim countries. I recall reading that description of Muhammad’s bullshit as the rantings of a schizophrenic. A very violent schizophrenic, that’s for sure. Isn’t is amazing that the raving of such lunatic could end up with over a billion followers? What evil people they must be to follow the vile content of islam with its calls for endless murderous violence.
Michael Copeland says
“When I have time, I must put it into German so that every man may see what a foul and shameful book it is.” — Martin Luther
https://gatesofvienna.net/2019/11/book-reviews-the-koran/
See also:
https://gatesofvienna.net/2023/08/islams-sensitivity-scam/#more-56012
gravenimage says
Thank you, Michael. Your encyclopedic knowledge of Islam is always appreciated.
Biggles says
@Mr. Copeland:
Hear, hear, although maybe it’s not so much schizophrenia, as psychopathy, as is beautifully illustrated by the aftermath of the battle of the trench, when mohamed himself beheaded somewhere between 400 and 900 Jewish fighting age males. Story has it he laughed while doing so, which earned him the ‘epitheton ornans’ ‘the laughing killer’, according to some.
Schizophrenia is a mental disorder[13] characterized by continuous or relapsing episodes of psychosis. (source: Wikipedia, copy/paste)
Psychopathy is a mental health condition characterized by persistent antisocial behavior, impaired empathy and remorse, and bold, disinhibited, and egotistical traits. (source: Wikipedia copy/paste)
So I’d go for the second ailment.
But perhaps you’d like to comment.
Michael Copeland says
“I hear voices, and I think I am going mad!”
So said Mohammed to his wife Khadija.
Psychopathy fits.
somehistory says
Prisons hold a large number of psychopaths. There are also psychopaths who wear suits and go to high paying jobs every day. They manipulate, consider only themselves and what they want, are ruthless in business, etc.
In the psychopath’s brain, the thinking is ‘it’s all about ME.’
The ideas of islam. fit the definition of psychopathy
…hurt others on purpose, lie, take advantage, manipulate, don’t ever feel regret or sorry for what is done, blame others for what happens, deny involvement in what went wrong….and something that a lot of people don’t know is that the psychopath doesn’t *learn* from the errors of his ways. Put the psychopath or mozlum in prison and he comes out worse than before.
islam has thousands upon thousands of psychopaths. Millions of them. And of the billion plus mozlums, who can accurately say how many are *normal* in their thinking?
With the knowledge that to the psychopath everything is about *him,* it’s easier to understand the creep who rapes his wife and then kills her for his “honor.’ And the slug who rapes a little kid and says she wanted him to do it. They don’t care one bit for the feelings of others.
tim gallagher says
Psychopathy sounds like the accurate description for this evil piece of crap, Muhammad. Personally, I don’t believe that the scumbag actually existed. I think that he was made up by a bunch of evil-minded creatures later on to give islam respectability by claiming that a god spoke to the invented psychopath and actually chose the evil scumbag as a prophet and an ideal of how people should behave. What a sickening load of garbage islam is and what a vile version of god it invented. Luther and many other people saw islam’s evil nature very clearly. I remember reading a passage by John Quincy Adams where he compared islam’s nature with Christianity and I thought he absolutely nailed the evil nature of islam..
Wellington says
Seconded, tg. Strongly so.
So sick of Islam and so sick of all those, Muslim or non-Muslim, who keep making excuses for Islam.
tim gallagher says
I certainly feel exactly the way you do about this evil, totally inhumane and barbaric load of crap, islam. I recall that you called it the turd in the punchbowl a few times. Spot on, Wellington. As for these people who defend it and try to run the protection racket for the disgusting ideology, they are beneath contempt. Everybody should have woken up to islam by now with the mountains of evidence of its vicious, evil nature. No decent, civilised person should support islam in any way whatsoever.
Jenny says
“…Decent or civilized person“ that is the key. But you have to consider the attraction of Islam to men. They get four wives minimum and all the concubines they can keep hold of. What normal make would not be attracted by that? Not to mention the belief that “might makes right”, which attracts all people who believe that.
The rest of it are lies design to pull women into the trap.
gravenimage says
I would never presume to speak for Tim Gallagher, Jenny, but I don’t believe that he is interested in abusing women–nor are most other civilized Infidel men here, including Robert Spencer. I don’t believe the horror of Islam are normal for any healthy person. male or female.
somehistory says
“Normal males” are “not attracted” by the idea of having multiple wives and however many sex slaves they can handle.
“Normal males” want the exclusive love of one woman; not the pretend feelings of women they enslave.
And “normal males” don’t believe that “might makes right.”
From the comments of many men on these pages, it is evident that the “normal male” is against the practices of mozlum males.
I had seven brothers…all normal males. Not one of them wanted multiple wives to beat and humiliate while having sex slaves on the side.
islam draws psychopaths; not normal people.
gravenimage says
Agreed, Somehistory.
gravenimage says
+1
Wellington says
I think the term “Islamic scholar” has at least a faint oxymoronic element about it, to put it mildly.
As for the encouragement of raiding by yet another “Islamic scholar,” this time yet again of the West, including America, Holy Hell and little catfishes as my father used to say, hasn’t Mo’s deluded followers raided enough over the centuries to put a damn lid on their effing “raiding?” Guess not because pure evil is never satiated.
It is in the nature of evil. Thus, it is the nature of Islam. One knows this by now or should know it but a Hell of a lot of Western politicians (e.g., Joe Biden) still don’t and that’s why they’re morons on the “matter” of Islam.
Westman says
Right on, Wellington.
Reading this “scholar’s” expectation of the Western reading of one of the most chronologically mixed up, illogical books in existence, made the my day’s amusement. I’m betting even the most radical leftist will reject Islam when reading surah 9.
James Lincoln says
Wellington,
To your point, the only true “scholars of islam” are non-muslims – such as Robert Spencer, etc.
They have taken the time to learn – and disseminate – the truth regarding islam.
Pray Hard says
Moslems are so tiresome …
James Lincoln says
Yes, Pray Hard.
And their responses are very predictable.
Jay Lykins says
Islamic Scholar? An Islamic Scholar should know the difference between the “greater jihad” and the “lesser jihad,” just as the person reporting this post should.
“Jihad” literally means to strive or to do one’s utmost in everything that they do. For a Muslim, the “greater jihad” is about his internal struggle to live his life according to the laws of Islam and the will of Allah. To wage the “lesser Jihad” is a physical struggle a Muslim might have in a religious war against infidels.
gravenimage says
Taqiyya. Anyone reading the Qur’an and the other texts of Islam knows this is false–the “Prophet” Muhammed himself noted violent Jihad warfare as the greatest thing a Muslim could do.
And if Jay Lykins *really* believed this, he would take it up with Islamic Scholar Salman Husaini El-Nadwi, not the good Infidels here at Jihad Watch.
But he doesn’t. He now claims to be Christian, but also says that he has been on the Hadj several times. Now, a handful of Infidels *have* managed to do this, but it is very dangerous and hence quite rare.
Maybe he is being honest here–but from what I have seen here I would not count on it.
Jay Lykins says
I think you have mistaken me for a someone else. I’ve never been on the Hadj, and never claimed to have been on it. Why are you spreading lies about me? The Hadj is for Muslims only.
“Jihad” literally means striving, or doing one’s utmost. Within Islam, there are two basic theological understandings of the word:
1 – The “Greater Jihad” is the struggle against the lower self – the struggle to purify one’s
heart, do good, avoid evil and make oneself a better person.
The Qur’an also says of the Greater Jihad: “Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors. To those against whom war is made, permission is given (to fight), because they are wronged; and verily, Allah is most powerful for their aid.”
2- The “Lesser Jihad” is an outward struggle. Jihad constitutes a moral principle to
struggle against any obstacle that stands in the way of the good.
The defensive nature of jihad is clearly emphasized in 2:190, “And fight in the way of God with those who fight you, but aggress not: God loves not the aggressors.”
And, “A number of fighters came to Muhammad and he said, “You have come from the ‘lesser jihad’ to the ‘greater jihad’.” The fighters asked, “what is the greater jihad?” Muhammad replied, “It is the struggle against one’s passions.”
As to what I believe, yes, I am a Christian, but that has no bearing on the above. The above is what Muslims believe. I have stated the truth, and it matters not with whom I have shared it. If Robert Spencer knows anything about Islam, and I believe he does, he will confirm what I have said; the same goes for the Islamic Scholar. You should check with them before you start saying I have not spoken the truth.
gravenimage says
Jay Lykins wrote:
I think you have mistaken me for a someone else. I’ve never been on the Hadj, and never claimed to have been on it. Why are you spreading lies about me? The Hadj is for Muslims only.
…………………………………………
On the bio page of your own site “Discerning Islam” one finds this:
“The editorial leader for ISI…has spent his entire life working and living in the Middle East. He has participated in the Hajj on various occasions…”
https://discerning-islam.org/bio/
If this somehow applies to someone who is not you, please explain how this is the case.
More:
“Jihad” literally means striving, or doing one’s utmost. Within Islam, there are two basic theological understandings of the word:
1 – The “Greater Jihad” is the struggle against the lower self – the struggle to purify one’s
heart, do good, avoid evil and make oneself a better person.
…………………………………………
Of course, you do not admit here that “doing good” in Islam includes waging violent Jihad against Infidels.
Then, this tosh about the “greater” and “lesser” Jihads is standard Taqiyya, and this has been debunked many times, including by Robert Spencer.
The “greater” and “lesser” Jihad thing is much bandied about by Islamic apologists, but Islamic scholars such as Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, consider the hadith to have a weak chain of transmission.
All the references to Jihad in the Qur’an refer to violent Jihad.
The Qur’an also says of the Greater Jihad: “Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors. To those against whom war is made, permission is given (to fight), because they are wronged; and verily, Allah is most powerful for their aid.”
This is Qur’an 2:190. I note that you do not cite Qur’an 2:191, which reads “Kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from where they drove you out, as Fitnah is more severe than killing. However, do not fight them near Al-Masjid-ul-Harām (the Sacred Mosque in Makkah) unless they fight you there. However, if they fight you (there) you may kill them. Such is the reward of the disbelievers.”
“Fitna” is anything that is not Islamic–just being a disbeliever is enough for pious Muslims to kill you.
More:
2- The “Lesser Jihad” is an outward struggle. Jihad constitutes a moral principle to
struggle against any obstacle that stands in the way of the good.
…………………………………………
The “way of the good”–also known as the “path of Allah”, means waging violent Jihad.
More:
And, “A number of fighters came to Muhammad and he said, “You have come from the ‘lesser jihad’ to the ‘greater jihad’.” The fighters asked, “what is the greater jihad?” Muhammad replied, “It is the struggle against one’s passions.”
…………………………………………
There’s that weak Hadith, again. Note that this is always used to whitewash Islam for Infidels.
More:
As to what I believe, yes, I am a Christian, but that has no bearing on the above. The above is what Muslims believe. I have stated the truth, and it matters not with whom I have shared it. If Robert Spencer knows anything about Islam, and I believe he does, he will confirm what I have said; the same goes for the Islamic Scholar. You should check with them before you start saying I have not spoken the truth.
…………………………………………
The claim that Robert Spencer swallows this whitewash is of course mistaken at best. Here is Hugh Fitzgerald at Jihad Watch:
“Fitzgerald: Greater Jihad and Lesser Jihad”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/08/fitzgerald-greater-jihad-and-lesser-jihad
There are other articles here on this subject.
Then, the claim that Islamic Scholar Salman Husaini El-Nadwi–who here is lauding violent Jihad attacks on the West–actually considers this to be of lesser worth than struggling to fast or pray is risible on its face.
He has a master’s degree in Hadith, yet apparently considers violent Jihad the most praiseworthy thing to preach. He has also preached slaughtering Shi’ites and setting up a Sunni Jihad army to reestablish the Caliphate. He also declared allegiance to Al-Bagdadi, the leader of ISIS and the Islamic State.
He clearly does *not* consider violent Jihad to be of lesser worth .
And no–pious Muslims do not believe this, and only make this claim when they are trying to snow credulous Infidels. I have looked, and have never found an instance of a Muslim preaching this to other Muslims.
gravenimage says
Islamic scholar: ‘The greater jihad is jihad by the holy Quran. We should raid the European countries, raid America’
………………………………………
This is how pious Muslims think.
Jay Lykins says
…………………………………………
On the bio page of your own site “Discerning Islam” one finds this:
“The editorial leader for ISI…has spent his entire life working and living in the Middle East. He has participated in the Hajj on various occasions…”
https://discerning-islam.org/bio/
If this somehow applies to someone who is not you, please explain how this is the case.
JAY’S RESPONSE:
Yes, it does pertain to someone else, and it is not me. Due to safety concerns, none of our overseas staff have their names, addresses or any other personal stats about them listed. You have confused the duties of the head of our editorial staff with myself.
END
More:
“Jihad” literally means striving, or doing one’s utmost. Within Islam, there are two basic theological understandings of the word:
1 – The “Greater Jihad” is the struggle against the lower self – the struggle to purify one’s
heart, do good, avoid evil and make oneself a better person.
…………………………………………
Of course, you do not admit here that “doing good” in Islam includes waging violent Jihad against Infidels.
Then, this tosh about the “greater” and “lesser” Jihads is standard Taqiyya, and this has been debunked many times, including by Robert Spencer.
The “greater” and “lesser” Jihad thing is much bandied about by Islamic apologists, but Islamic scholars such as Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, consider the hadith to have a weak chain of transmission.
All the references to Jihad in the Qur’an refer to violent Jihad.
The Qur’an also says of the Greater Jihad: “Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors. To those against whom war is made, permission is given (to fight), because they are wronged; and verily, Allah is most powerful for their aid.”
This is Qur’an 2:190. I note that you do not cite Qur’an 2:191, which reads “Kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from where they drove you out, as Fitnah is more severe than killing. However, do not fight them near Al-Masjid-ul-Harām (the Sacred Mosque in Makkah) unless they fight you there. However, if they fight you (there) you may kill them. Such is the reward of the disbelievers.”
“Fitna” is anything that is not Islamic–just being a disbeliever is enough for pious Muslims to kill you.
More:
2- The “Lesser Jihad” is an outward struggle. Jihad constitutes a moral principle to
struggle against any obstacle that stands in the way of the good.
…………………………………………
The “way of the good”–also known as the “path of Allah”, means waging violent Jihad.
More:
And, “A number of fighters came to Muhammad and he said, “You have come from the ‘lesser jihad’ to the ‘greater jihad’.” The fighters asked, “what is the greater jihad?” Muhammad replied, “It is the struggle against one’s passions.”
…………………………………………
There’s that weak Hadith, again. Note that this is always used to whitewash Islam for Infidels.
More:
As to what I believe, yes, I am a Christian, but that has no bearing on the above. The above is what Muslims believe. I have stated the truth, and it matters not with whom I have shared it. If Robert Spencer knows anything about Islam, and I believe he does, he will confirm what I have said; the same goes for the Islamic Scholar. You should check with them before you start saying I have not spoken the truth.
…………………………………………{
The claim that Robert Spencer swallows this whitewash is of course mistaken at best. Here is Hugh Fitzgerald at Jihad Watch:
“Fitzgerald: Greater Jihad and Lesser Jihad”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2008/08/fitzgerald-greater-jihad-and-lesser-jihad
There are other articles here on this subject.
Then, the claim that Islamic Scholar Salman Husaini El-Nadwi–who here is lauding violent Jihad attacks on the West–actually considers this to be of lesser worth than struggling to fast or pray is risible on its face.
He has a master’s degree in Hadith, yet apparently considers violent Jihad the most praiseworthy thing to preach. He has also preached slaughtering Shi’ites and setting up a Sunni Jihad army to reestablish the Caliphate. He also declared allegiance to Al-Bagdadi, the leader of ISIS and the Islamic State.
He clearly does *not* consider violent Jihad to be of lesser worth .
And no–pious Muslims do not believe this, and only make this claim when they are trying to snow credulous Infidels. I have looked, and have never found an instance of a Muslim preaching this to other Muslims.
JAY’S RESPONSE:
You may be correct here. It is an area which I will have to give more study to. My grad degree goes back to 1988. There are certain givens here and from the sound of things, the thinking, definitions, etc., may very well have changed. I respect Robert Spencer and most of his works. So, as I said, this is an area I will have to research a bit more. This was such a common “given,” at the time, it is not an area one would have thought would change. If my conclusions change, I will of course apologize to you, the Islamic Scholar, and others if I know who they are. At the same time, if I still hold to my current belief on the subject, then we will simply have to agree to disagree.
Are we OK with that?
END
gravenimage says
Thank you for your reply. You wrote:
On the bio page of your own site “Discerning Islam” one finds this:
“The editorial leader for ISI…has spent his entire life working and living in the Middle East. He has participated in the Hajj on various occasions…”
https://discerning-islam.org/bio/
If this somehow applies to someone who is not you, please explain how this is the case.
JAY’S RESPONSE:
Yes, it does pertain to someone else, and it is not me. Due to safety concerns, none of our overseas staff have their names, addresses or any other personal stats about them listed. You have confused the duties of the head of our editorial staff with myself.
……………………………………………
Since yours was the only name on the page, I certainly had good reason to assume that this referred to yourself. But I also well understand the need to use discretion when posting on matters of Jihad, and how dangerous this can be–I was of course not Christened “gravenimage” myself.
More:
“Jihad” literally means striving, or doing one’s utmost. Within Islam, there are two basic theological understandings of the word:
1 – The “Greater Jihad” is the struggle against the lower self – the struggle to purify one’s
heart, do good, avoid evil and make oneself a better person.
…………………………………………
Of course, you do not admit here that “doing good” in Islam includes waging violent Jihad against Infidels.
Then, this tosh about the “greater” and “lesser” Jihads is standard Taqiyya, and this has been debunked many times, including by Robert Spencer.
The “greater” and “lesser” Jihad thing is much bandied about by Islamic apologists, but Islamic scholars such as Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani, consider the hadith to have a weak chain of transmission.
All the references to Jihad in the Qur’an refer to violent Jihad.
The Qur’an also says of the Greater Jihad: “Fight in the way of Allah against those who fight against you, but begin not hostilities. Lo! Allah loveth not aggressors. To those against whom war is made, permission is given (to fight), because they are wronged; and verily, Allah is most powerful for their aid.”
This is Qur’an 2:190. I note that you do not cite Qur’an 2:191, which reads “Kill them wherever you find them, and drive them out from where they drove you out, as Fitnah is more severe than killing. However, do not fight them near Al-Masjid-ul-Harām (the Sacred Mosque in Makkah) unless they fight you there. However, if they fight you (there) you may kill them. Such is the reward of the disbelievers.”
“Fitna” is anything that is not Islamic–just being a disbeliever is enough for pious Muslims to kill you.
More:
2- The “Lesser Jihad” is an outward struggle. Jihad constitutes a moral principle to
struggle against any obstacle that stands in the way of the good.
…………………………………………
The “way of the good”–also known as the “path of Allah”, means waging violent Jihad.
More:
JAY’S RESPONSE:
You may be correct here. It is an area which I will have to give more study to. My grad degree goes back to 1988. There are certain givens here and from the sound of things, the thinking, definitions, etc., may very well have changed. I respect Robert Spencer and most of his works. So, as I said, this is an area I will have to research a bit more. This was such a common “given,” at the time, it is not an area one would have thought would change. If my conclusions change, I will of course apologize to you, the Islamic Scholar, and others if I know who they are. At the same time, if I still hold to my current belief on the subject, then we will simply have to agree to disagree.
Are we OK with that?
…………………………………………
Absolutely–thank you for taking another look at this. As for the Islamic Scholar in question here, I think it is clear what form of Jihad he considers the greater from his rant in the video above.
somehistory says
It’s what they *believe* without any *thinking* involved, imo
People like to refer to Christians as those with “blind faith,” not understanding the *eyes of understanding.*
However, mozlums are the truly “blind” and their “faith” is not faith at all, but just follow the leader as he heads over the cliff…murdering, lying and raping his way along.
gravenimage says
Agreed, Somehistory.
maria says
Muslims are the worst creatures in the world. Deport them from Europe and the US to Africa
No muslims in the streets of Euope or USA
Michael says
Jesus is king and I will serve him only. The Koran is not holy it is just a book written by a man who claims that he has seen God.
The Bible is God’s word and is holy.
somehistory says
Absolutely.
FYI says
‘By means of allah’s book’
That book whose author is clearly not omnniscient when he mistakenly thinks Mary is one of the 3 gods Christians worship{koran 5:116}or who insists he gave the TORAH to Moses{koran 2;87}and yet whose teachings violate EVERY law IN the Torah thus defeating the purpose of the TORAH?
islamic ‘scholars’ are not noted for their intelligence or logical reasoning:just their venomous hate and savage ignorance.
After all allah says to CHECK with the Bible people{koran 10:94}if in doubt about anything:the TORAH which contains the Laws of Moses has never been changed.Surely any scholar would do that?Not islamic ‘scholars’ of course as if they did that they would see the koran is FALSE and they would be exposed as lying charlatans.
The Scientific mistakes show allah cannot be the creator.
The Theology errors show allah cannot be omniscient.
Anyone want out of islam.. with allah’s unwitting help?
koran 10:94
FYI says
Fun questions to ask the dawah propagandists
1}What happens if your face is black on allah’s judgement day?{koran 3:106}
{You are going to allah’s hell! …which is filled with muslim women}
2}The koran says ‘Non-muslims are the WORST of created beings” koran 98:6
Tell us what you think{and why}
YES or NO?
Your answer will be revealing which is why you won’t answer it!muslims won’t answer this question.
3}If allah is OK with the Jews dwelling in the holy land of Israel{which he says ordained for them}
koran 5:21,koran 17:104 shouldn’t you muslims leave Israel alone?
4}How did allah completely miss the entire Law system of the TORAH yet claims he gave the TORAH to Moses{koran 2:87}
5}Is the koran perfectly preserved?{NO!}
6}A devout muslim who happens to be friends with an infidel is ALSO an infidel{koran 5:51} and is ‘the worst of created of beings”.Explain the lunacy of that.
7}Great scholarly minds of islam?Where?
The peace of islam?Where?
The search continues….
Bob says
Perhaps we should ask the Clinton’s (i.e. Bill & Hillary) to have their enforcers meet with him?
Henry A Crawford says
Me and I think i speak for the majority of Americans are well armed. There would be a gun behind every blade of grass pointed at the invaders if they come here for war. Do they not have a clue about the second amendment in this country? We don’t fight with sticks. Gun sales have gone through the roof just the last few years not counting the millions already out there. What I’m trying to say is this isn’t France.
Clifford Fodor says
Pray for France. Pray for the USA.