1. On October 9 at 10 a.m. EST, Israel announced that more than 800 Israelis had been killed. At the same time, the IDF announced that 73 soldiers had been killed to date. In other words, close to 90% of those murdered by Hamas were civilians. So among Israeli casualties, to date we have a civilian-to-military ratio of roughly 9-1.
2. In Gaza, the ratio went the other way — many more terrorists were killed than civilians. Elder of Ziyon has done a “back-of-the-envelope” calculation here: “Back of the envelope calculation: Terrorist to civilian casualty ratio in Gaza, day 1, about 5-1, Elder of Ziyon, October 9, 2023:
He comes to the conclusion that as of the morning of Oct. 9, the ratio of terrorist fighters to civilians killed was 5 to 1.
The so-called “Palestinian Center for Human Rights” always tries to list all the casualties of every Gaza conflict – but they slavishly adhere to Hamas’ rules not to list any dead terrorists, only people they can credibly claim to be civilians.
Their report for the first day of fighting says that the Gaza Ministry of Health claimed 256 Gazans killed in Israeli airstrikes
But they list only about 60 deaths – meaning that they know that 200 of those killed were terrorists.
If that was the ratio of terrorists to civilians, it would already be amazing for an urban war. But that is not the whole story.
Because certainly some of the families killed were human shields for terrorist leaders. And Israel did target Hamas leaders’ houses and offices…
In Israel, Saturday was a day of mass murder. Hamas terrorists flooded into Israel from Gaza through the breaches they had managed to make in the security fence and began killing everyone they ran across, in the streets, inside houses and cars, and at a music festival, where 260 people were slaughtered. And 90% of those they killed were civilians.
In Gaza, the IAF made its usual efforts to minimize civilian casualties. It hit Hamas weapons hideouts, command-and-control centers, terror tunnels, rocket launch sites, and buildings where Hamas leaders lived. The IAF sent warnings, by Short Message Service (SMS), telephoning, and the “knock-on-the-roof” technique, to people living in or near buildings about to be targeted. But inevitably there were some civilians who did not heed the warnings. And in special cases, where it was important not to alert the target, they were not warned. For example, Israel wanted to hit the houses where Hamas leaders lived, in order to decapitate the leadership, and so the IAF refrained from warning the inhabitants of those houses, though certainly some of those inside,, including the wives and children of the targets, were civilians.
Hamas had announced, by Oct. 9 at 12 noon, that 500 people had been killed in Gaza so far, but it carefully refrained from publicizing their names, because it wants the world to believe that they were almost all civilians. In fact, what should amaze the world is how few Gazans, civilians and military, have been killed. Israel had by noon EST on Oct. 9 conducted more than 1000 air attacks in Gaza. That means there was only one Gazan death for every two Israeli attacks. And of those, if we assume that the military-to-civilian ratio of Palestinian deaths remained the same on Oct. 9 as on the first day of Israel’s response, then there were a total of 80 Palestinian civilians who have died so far.
Compare that number — 80 Palestinian civilians killed — with the 800 Israelis, at least 727 of them civilians, who have been killed so far.
somehistory says
Some person, a Jewish man, I listened to, can’t be certain which one it was, said that hamas tells the civilians who are *warned* by Israel before the military strikes, not to listen to the warnings…not to heed the warnings.
hamas places civilians….children, women and old people…in places they know Israel will strike if they are pushed into a war, so when these die, they can pretend to cry and say the Jews kill innocent people.
The terrorists locate their weapons and launch sites in schools and hospitals and then when Israel sends a warning that there will be a strike, the terrorists won’t allow the civilians to abandon the buildings. And then, they blame Israel.
Ghouls, snakes, doing the desires of their demon father.
bill says
I think that the purpose of this attack is to terrorise the Israelis into fleeing Israel. In fact it has achieved the opposite effect as many Isrealis are retruing to Isreal to help in the fight back.
What I do not understnd is why the border was not more heavily fortified and guarded. It is well know for the Arabs to attck when they know Israel is having a celebration
Fitna says
There’s a great channel on YT, Corey Gil-Shuster where this Jewish guy interviews random Palestinians to get their opinions on Israel. Bottom line is that the vast majority of them hate Jews and want to conquer Israel…at least the one’s being honest, the others lie for the camera.
So I have very little sympathy for the Palestinians, except maybe for the women/children who were forced into this situation.
But I really don’t care…I place the value of non-Muslims over Muslims, as they do with us in reverse, esp. in such conflicts. I want Israel to win all its battles and achieve its military objectives.
Those Palis trapped under the rubble now because Israel bombed their building, have only themselves to blame for supporting this terrorist group that they voted for.
They’ve learned the hard way that Islam is no longer the once ‘dominant force’ it used to be. Today we the infidels are much more powerful (at least in developed nations) and we’ll win every battle.
Frankly Muslims are idiots. How could they not see that this would only lead to a backlash? They were celebrating and cheering after Hamas invaded Israel. Were they really stupid enough to believe that’d be the end, they ‘won the war’? How did they not realize Israel would retaliate and the backlash would be even more devastating to them?
Islam isn’t just a cult of murderers, rapists, thieves and pedos, but it’s also a group of morons and dum-basses who make really stupid decisions in life and militarily. It would’ve died off on its own if not for the oil money keeping it going. Hopefully this century it crashes and burns.
Your fleeting victory for a handful of people gave way to the suffering of millions now in Gaza, great job Muslim retards! Keep making more foolish mistakes and maybe it’ll lead to an early demise of Islam.
commonsense says
As Jason D. Hill writes in his article posted on frontpagemag.com earlier today, since the Hamas (and PLO) charters are annihilatory, calling for the complete destruction of a sovereign state, the Israelis have not only the moral right to kill all of their enemies inhabiting Gaza and occupied Judea and Samaria, but carte blanche to ignore attempts by the enemy to deter Israeli attacks by using Palestinian noncombatants, such as children or hospitalized patients, as human shields, in the attempt to elicit guilt or pity. I wholeheartedly agree. Blow them all to Hell.