What will happen after the conflict ends in Gaza? “America Wants to Help, But Is Undermining the War Effort,” by Meir Ben-Shabbat, JNS.org, December 10, 2023:
Nevertheless, Israel cannot compromise on achieving its goals while minimizing the burden on its fighters—regardless of how long it takes. This is the message Israel has to drive home when US National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan visits in the coming days.
Those who insist on getting answers from the Israeli government over what happens “the day after” are doing so despite knowing full well that there are no good options in Gaza. If there were, they would have presumably been implemented during one of the many opportunities to do so over the years….
There is something absurd, and even cruel, about the Bidenites’ demanding that Israel spell out what it plans for the “day after” the war ends. How can anyone know the mood either of the Gazans — will they turn on Hamas in rage at the destruction the terrorists brought on everyone in Gaza, or become more fanatical in their hatred of Israel? — or of the Israelis, whose plans may depend on what happens to the hostages (will they all be freed by Hamas, or murdered?), or on how many casualties the IDF ultimately endures. It is clear that the Israeli government wants the IDF to remain for “months” in Gaza in order to completely clear the Strip of weapons. Will the Bidenites allow the Israelis the time necessary to fulfill that difficult task, or start to browbeat them to “hurry up” and suggest that America’s continued diplomatic support — such as exercising a veto at the Security Council — should not be taken for granted.
Israel must pursue Hamas with relentless attacks to achieve the goal of destroying it and achieving the goal of freeing the hostages. It is the ferocity of the former that is most likely to assure the success of the latter. Hamas has to be constantly reminded that it is being held responsible for every single one of the hostages, including those held by other groups such as Palestinian Islamic Jihad, or even by individual Gazans who may have taken a female hostage or two for their private, hideous delectation.
As the fighting continues, the IDF and the Shin Bet security agency continue to crack down on terrorists in Judea and Samaria. Israel’s political leaders must decide whether to allow Palestinian workers from Judea and Samaria to return to work in Israel, which has been prevented since Oct. 7 except for a relatively small number of positions defined as critical even at this time.
The main argument for allowing them back into Israel is the fear that economic hardship, frustration and unemployment will push them to act against Israel. Another consideration is the impact on the Israeli economy, particularly housing construction. Against these considerations stands the concern over attacks they may perpetrate because they have been inspired by Hamas in Gaza or because they want to avenge the deaths there, especially in light of the images and propaganda broadcast continuously on Al Jazeera….
I don’t think any Israeli at this point wants a single Palestinian worker from the West Bank, or Gaza, to return to work inside either Israel or the territories It is widely believed in Israel that some of those 20,000 workers from Gaza provided intelligence to Hamas that helped 3,000 of its operatives surge unopposed into Israel on October 7 to do what they did. They may have been given information on weak spots in the security fence, or on the security details at various kibbutzim, or even on the structure and placement of “safe” rooms, or on the weapons available to the people in the kibbutzim.
The argument that some of these workers should be allowed back into Israel because otherwise their economic despair will embitter them rings hollow. They will understand that they have only Hamas to blame for an end to those jobs inside Israel. As for the argument that Israel “needs” those workers for construction jobs, there are many non-Muslim foreigners, such as the 30,000 Thai workers already in Israel (some were killed by Hamas, others taken hostage), whose numbers could be quickly increased to fill the jobs no longer available to Palestinian guest-workers. Imagine the fear of ordinary Israelis, after all that has happened since October 7, if they had to endure the presence of tens of thousands of Palestinian workers throughout their land. It would be an intolerable situation, fraught with fear.
Ben-Shabbat notes that the Israeli public is now quick to notice any Palestinian in its midst; they stand out, as they did not before October 7, when 120,000 Palestinian workers were to be found all over Israel. This reduction in their numbers to zero helps Israelis in both the “detection” of potential terrorists and in ”neutralization” — i.e., wounding or killing those bent on terrorism, ideally before they have a chance to do significant harm. And ending the guest-worker program tells the Palestinians that Israel exacts an economic price as part of its response to Hamas atrocities.
Meir Ben-Shabbat clearly favors ending the guest-worker program for Palestinians. Not just because of the anxiety those workers’ presence will now, quite understandably, cause Israelis, and the great security risks they bring as potential terrorists, or as collaborators bringing back intelligence to terrorists in Gaza and the West Bank, but because he wants the Palestinians to turn on Hamas. And he thinks those Palestinians whose livelihoods are harmed because they can no longer work in Israel will blame Hamas — as of course they should — for this state of affairs.
Dr K says
No fuckn way !!
Sharia Is Shit – Don’t Put Up With It!
Tatanka says
1200%, let them rot.
Queen Esther says
No Palestinian workers should be allowed into Israel. Israelis should do the work themselves or bring in workers who support Israel.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
Europe is now becoming increasingly unsafe for Jews. Israel should incentivize them to perform aliya and come in & fill the jobs the Palis have lost. They should also incentivize non-muslim workers in the Gulf to come to Israel. Yeah, the pay & remittances may be lower, but they’ll have better working conditions
Hudderrs. says
As long as they don’t send them into Europe, or even Scotland as the Scotish Leader (muslim) suggested recently.
It’s bad enough without more antisemetic backwards kuffar haters.
Tony Rice says
The Scots need to be on their guard re the Islamisation of Scotland. Even at his first meeting Yousaf held the prayer, NOT in the religion of the country but ISLAMIC. And he hasn’t held back since.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
I suggested sending the Palis to Qatar, not Scotland. I’m not treating Yousuf or Varadkar as representative of “their” people
WPM says
Let the Palestinians work in Moslem countries that border them .Israel can bring plenty of non-Moslem people on work visas from places like Eastern Europe ,the Philippines ,and Thailand .Why is it that non-Moslem immigrates from those countries not cause trouble in Europe, and or the Americas ?Maybe it is they are missing Islamic factor? Maybe it is that they believe or want to be part of western civilization ? They the majority respect or believe in the golden rule ?Moslems are brought up to hate non-Moslems from early childhood with Jews being the people most hated ,Would Israel bring or trust Neo-Nazis as people to enter their country on work visas ,no matter where their country of origin was ? Moslems have lost their trust card ,the ones that are already are citizens can stay and work why import more ?Why is Jew hatred and attacks on Jews in Europe and the Americas on the rise ,because of the importation of Moslems.
Natalie Gutman says
The “Palestinians” only grew in number so much because in the 1800’s and early 1900’s, they followed the Jews and worked for them as they treated them better than their Arab brothers. They had better pay and better conditions. Now their descendants have bitten the hand that feeds them for the last time. When you choose the action, you choose the consequence. They can go work for pittance and get treated like crapin other Arab countries – if they will even let them in.
WPM says
If they the “Palestinians try to cross the borders into other Moslems countries to just work they will be killed in mass. Of cross the MSM would not say boo about it Moslems killing whole villages of other Moslems it is acceptable ,Jews defending their families from terrorist hordes that bake infants alive in front of their parents ,rape women to death ,and kidnapped unarm civilians is perfectly acceptable to many in the MSM in the year 2023 it seems .The sad truth I see in the future is mass immigration to Europe and the Americas for these “Palestine’s” where they can cause more trouble .Just get them to the Mexican border they can cross and get free plane fare to NYC LA and Chicago more future democratic voters.
Emilie Green says
“Should Israel Allow In Palestinian Workers After the War?”
Is this one of those extra-credit questions asked at the end of test?
Basically as an easy lay-up shot.
Tony Rice says
Yes, allow them in as before. Will drive a wedge between the Palestinians and Hamas, BUT if they cause trouble inside Israel, stop them, but Israeli employers will lose out as cheaper labour ?.. Most Palestinians don’t support Hamas anyway, even less now.
Sandy says
What makes you think most Palestinians don’t support Hamas? According to recent polls, something like 80% do, though they may have been lying. Who knows?
James Lincoln says
Tony,
Approximately 75% of Palestinians supported the October 7th Hamas terrorist attacks on Israel:
https://www.jns.org/nearly-three-quarters-of-palestinians-say-hamas-was-right-on-oct-7/
Tony Rice says
I am surprised by what you say and produce, James. And IF what your link says is true, I agree the two should be kept apart. How ANYONE could support the bestiality that took place on the 7th Oct. beggars belief.
James Lincoln says
Thank you for your reply, Tony.
somehistory says
If I lived in Israel and owned a business or was wealthy enough to employ someone to help around the home, I wouldn’t hire any mozlum. None, zip, nada. Wouldn’t have before Oct and definitely not now.
Too many people…not just in Israel, but in Germany and other countries where mozlums have swarmed in…have hired mozlums to do work and have *paid* with their very lives when the mozlum they were *helping* with a job turned on them, raping and murdering.
The mozlums from the strip have already shown how they feel about Jews and Israel. What more proof that they cannot be trusted is necessary?
somehistory says
“Palestinians point finger of blame at the U.S. as deaths soar in Gaza”
They aren’t blaming hamas. or Iran.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/palestinians-point-finger-of-blame-at-the-u-s-as-deaths-soar-in-gaza/ar-AA1lovws?ocid=msedgntp&pc=HCTS&cvid=c8bac25213e745518d26aec090e1cdf9&ei=14
James Lincoln says
Not a single so-called “Palestinian” worker should be allowed back in Israel – ever.
They had their chance at prosperity – and enough of them blew it by aiding and abetting Hamas.
Israel can never take the chance again.
Wellington says
With you completely, James.
James Lincoln says
Thank you, Wellington.
FYI says
The Jews are entitled to live in their Biblically sanctioned homeland.
The palis don’t want peace:it took a lot of hate to do the evil hamas did.
So things won’t ever be the same again.
In koran 5:51 allah says muslims must never be friends with Jews or Christians and to classify non muslims as ‘the worst of created beings’ means the Golden Rule.2nd chief commandment is impossible in islam.
The ultimate cause of the misery is..islam.
Ray Jarman says
So accurate and since when does a victor in a war not make the call regarding the terms of surrender and especially when the victor in this case was the victim?
mgoldberg says
No workers back in Israel. I think Israel can import workers from the philippines, thailand,India, africa and do quite well by them. Let the gazans learn how to build a society and let the arab nations pay for the rebuild under Israeli’s supervision- no gazan army, no gazan police, no UNRWA education, and no sharia education of children. Just like after WWII in germany and japan. Then after 7 yrs or so, a new generation will have emerged, with better jobs, some industries, new hopes and no sharia taught in any schools.
John says
Well said and so true.
Billy Corr says
I’d suggest Filipinos / Filipinas and Thais but – in both cases – exclude the Muslims.
࿗Infidel࿘ says
I mentioned this earlier today. Israel should offer incentives to all non-muslims working in Gulf states, particularly Qatar, & deport all Palis in both Gaza and Judea/Samaria to Qatar & those other countries as replacements. Most of this is unskilled labor: it’s not like the Arabs will be losing certified professionals in lieu of some muslim rubes. They can do the swap, the Arabs can manage the Palis, who even speak the language & follow the same deen: can live by the same rules. While the Israelis can accommodate all the Christians, Buddhists & Hindus that they get, who, however incompatible they may be w/ the Jews, at least won’t try to blow them up
mgoldberg says
When I visited the jewish towns in gaza, collectively called Gush Katif, they had workers from Nepal there who were paid well to work. The Gazans recently got 3to5 times what they got paid in gaza, and for that, they mapped out the towns and weak spots and all such data for their hamas masters. I imagine that Israel would have no problem getting workers there. Consider the howling that will ensue about how unfair they are to arabs, how it’s racial and bigoted. And so on and so on………
Wellington says
Ideally, and addressing a much larger problem, no Muslim (other than some necessary diplomatic personnel) should be allowed into any Western nation anymore than a Neo-Nazi or Marxist should be.
Civilization has no duty to accommodate iniquity and ignorance. Dealing with it from time to time, yes. But accommodating it, let alone sanctioning it (as is going on in the West presently), never.
Istanbul_Chick says
I’m with you on that, Wellington. Although I would take it one step further.
No diplomats either. muslim diplomats are still muslim and that is the problem.
Hudders. says
Agreed 10000%
Namer says
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!¡!¡!!! Plenty of unemployed ultraorthadox to work the fields.
mgoldberg says
Unemployed ultraorthodox? how would you know? Oh wait, you read it somewhere….
marc says
@Namer There might be some smaller groups who are work shy, but I bet broadly they are more likely employed than the majority of men in the west.
Despite having a free pass, large numbers have been signing up to serve https://www.timesofisrael.com/israels-war-spurs-thousands-of-haredi-israelis-to-volunteer-cook-and-serve-in-the-idf/
Istanbul_Chick says
No.
Nor should any fakestinians or their spawn be treated in Israeli hospitals. The Israelis have far more tolerant and altruistic to their barbaric neighbors than I ever would have been. It’s time for them to toughen up and realize that their neighbors (And their Western useful idiots) have forfeited all rights to be considered human.
Keep them out!
Wazzup says
IMO there wouldn’t any palestanians left to work in Israel
drew webb says
Absolutely NO !!!
rick says
If Israel ended all Palestinian workers coming in from Gaza and the west bank Arab communities that would leave 3 solutions for Palestinians.
One would be for Palestinians to redirect their energies from hating Israel and Jews to building their own economy in their communities. That would be a radical change of attitude for Palestinians and probably not possible without the promise of a state along the way. The PA and Abbas would see this as a prime opportunity to steal tremendous amounts of money. Terrorists also would take advantage of the wealth created to rearm and dedicate a new “struggle for the destruction of Israel”. Can Palestinians develop their own communities without the promise of their own state?
Two would be to relocate Palestinians elsewhere. Sinai is a possibility. Trouble with that is no one wants them in the Arab world and EU wouldn’t be too happy to take them in leaving the US as the only nation to take them. A bad decision for America and ultimately Israel as Israel’s greatest ally would now have an instant Palestinian population who hate Israel and would work politically in the US against Israel. They might be able to sway Congressional appropriations for Israel to be much smaller or even end some. Americans are pro-Israel but maybe a small but vocal Palestinian community could tip the favorable view of Israel of Americans. The Palestinian threat to Israel is Israel’s greatest threat nut with Iran and Syria still there strongly against Israel, there are still great dangers for Israel. Now those anti-Israel states would have a (voting) voice inside America.
Three: Rebuild Gaza and try to make it a money making tourist resort which is the best idea for this strip of land on the Mediterranean. If it succeeded the natural outcome would probably lead to further and further Palestinian control until there is a Palestinian state. Would the people of Gaza choose a normal peaceful life style and reject jihad? Hard to say. This would take tons of money and safeguarding that money from Hamas-like groups to use it for building terrorism just like Hamas stole concrete to build their tunnels. Who is going to watch them and make sure radical jihad groups don’t control Gaza? There has never been a Palestinian leadership who saw Peace with Israel as the ultimate goal. And if one did emerge it would be easy to assassinate that person(s). The disease of jihad is deep within the Palestinian psyche. Would a Gaza concentrating on building a successful resort allow Palestinians to reject jihad as the solution? And what if a Hamas type group murdered some tourists as Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood – the parent company of Hamas -did in Egypt? There the Egyptian Government cracked down harshly on the terrorists. Who would crack down on terrorists in Gaza? A UN pathetic force?
Sandy says
I think they should not only keep Palestinians out of Israel, but kick UNRWA out of Gaza and the West Bank, too.
David Fahey says
NEVER!
OLD GUY says
No country should need workers bad enough to bring in muslims period. Nothing but trouble for the citizens of the host country. The cheap labor is not worth the trouble. Higher a Christian or Jewish worker instead.
KuhnKat says
When the “war” is over there should be no Fakestinians left in Gaza to let in and the number in Judea and Samaria should have been reduced also.