Everything must be done to avoid offending Austria’s hypersensitive new overlords.
“Next excitement: ORF deletes Jesus Christ from the calendar,” translated from “Nächster Aufreger: ORF streicht Jesus Christus aus der Zeitrechnung,” Exxpress, January 27, 2024 (thanks to Medforth):
Something has happened again on ORF: In an article about the climate in the Roman Empire (!), the warm period is described as “around 200 BC. C.E. to 150 C.E.” dated. “Before our time” instead of “before Christ”? How woke is it actually?
The time calculation used by the ORF is mainly used by non-religious people, members of non-Christian religions and in explicitly secular states and the more common abbreviation v. BC preferred. So it’s about not provoking non-Christians. Things have been getting hot again on X (Twitter) since then. “How woke can you actually get in this protected workshop?” asks ÖVP politician Manfred Juraczka.
Muslims’ feelings could be hurt
Small side note: Also in the GDR there were mainly C.E. and (n.)U. Z. the standard formulation. Does the ORF, which is financed by compulsory taxes, simply want to be particularly woke – and is intentionally canceling Jesus Christ? After all, the use of the term Christ in the era is considered a confession of faith. Muslims, Jews, atheists and others may find this discriminatory or their religious beliefs infringing on their freedom of belief.
40 rounds says
Austria loves it’s Christmas celebrations. I wonder if the cowards will terminate this as well
Barbara says
After the end of WWII, Russia became the new government. For ten years the Catholics prayed the rosary, everyday for their freedom.
When Russia left Austria there was no fighting and deaths. It was a peaceful and orderly with drawl of Russian troops.
Austrians need to remember their history.
40 rounds says
I’m pretty sure Russia wasn’t the government in Austria after the war
40 rounds says
I’m sorry the soviet’s did occupy part of Austria after the war you were correct
Ian Senior says
As a European Christian I find it offensive for Ausrisn Broadcasting to remove references to Jesus Christ from our Christian calendar.
Take it not offended over the mass rape of women and girls by Muslim perpetrators or beheadings of Israeli babies, public floggings. Cutting off of limbs.
If Muslims are offended living in Christian Europe they need to return to their own countries rather than transform Europe into an Islamic Caliphate through immigration and a high berth rate.
Barbara says
“transform Europe into an Islamic Caliphate through immigration and a high berth rate.”
This is precisely what they are doing. The whole world is to become Muslim.
Rarely says
The terms “B.C.” and “B.C.E.” (before the common era) have been used interchangeably here (Canada) as long as I can remember. I can’t recall anyone ever being offended by the use of either.
In an allegedly secular country where a large percentage of the population is non-Christian the usage of “B.C.E” and “C.E.” (Common Era) may be appropriate and more accommodating.
However, it is very silly to get in a snit over whichever is used.
Much Ado about Nothing.
somehistory says
mozlums are “offended”….when supposedly, they see Jesus as a Prophet, one degree below the foul and fake one they worship. Or maybe, more than one degree below the foulest and confirmed fake, mass-murdering, raper of children, slave trading sex maniac, lying son of satan the devil.
mozlums are offended by the breathing daily of infidels, by the mere mention of pork and if one tells the Truth about their evil, demonic, filth-filled book they also worship.
I, for one, am offended by the total demonically inspired filthy evil of islam. I know one day, the Real Jesus Christ, not the one they pretend to honor, will destroy islam. Completely. islam offends Him and His Holy Father. It has to go, never to rise again.
PRCS says
“I know one day…Jesus Christ…will destroy islam”
No, you don’t KNOW that. In Truth (sure you’ll like that), he hasn’t personally done anything for the past 2000 years.
You merely BELIEVE it.
In the real world: it’s unlikely that 1400 year old ideology will be “destroyed” within our lifetimes. My money’s on secular, man-made law and guns.
Goofy says
The only way Muslims can argue that Islam is a religion is to postulate that it is Abrahamic. The link to the Bible is already established by Islam itself.
Their Muhammad swore on the veracity and authenticity of the Bible, and it is common for Muslims to claim that they respect Isa (Jesus). They even agree that Isa is the Messiah!
They even made the Isa child act as God by blowing life into clay doves which flew away. Still they claim that Allah is the greatest of creators! Isa surely must come in as a close number two.
The Muslims’ respect for Isa is however, quite limited as they don’t believe in Jesus’ (Yeshua = Saviour) salvific death and resurrection, but that is a different story.
My question is how it is possible for the Muslims to feel offended by the very calendar we use and which is linked to the birth of Isa/Jesus?
And what difference does it make to use CE instead of AD? Our calendar is linked to the birth of Jesus anyhow.
Do we need to adopt the Islamic calendar to make our cultural guests weel comfortable?
If that is the case you better settle in a country where you feel comfortable!
PRCS says
By definition, it IS a religion; albeit an awful, evil religion.
Tony Rice says
Why has the Austrian Broadcasting Co. decided to ditch its own people/ supporters and favour immigrants of a wildly different faith. Who pays for the A B C to exist and broadcast,?. Is civil war not coming as the result or will the Austrian people roll over and submit to Islamists. Austria’s infamous product was very much in favour of Islamists, maybe his ghost is around .
nicholas tesdorf says
It is high time, for everyone, to start offending Muslims on a large scale to further weaken their fragile, violent, intolerant religion and dissuade them from futile adherence to it.
James Lincoln says
nicholas,
To your point, sometimes the best defense is a good offense.
Statler says
So when do they start removing mosques so as not to offend the non-believers? Where’s the balance?
jerry glenn says
Austria surges in the international Islamopandering derby.
Ernie says
There wouldn’t have been an Austrian Broadcasting Corporation without Jan III Sobieski saving Europe from the Ottomans/Turks in 1673 ……. Europe should REMEMBER its history !
Lisa T. says
This BCE and CE time designation has been used in the. I.S. for the last 10-20 years. And, yes, it does annoy me.
Occasionally I like to ask what is “common” about it, or what is the event that separated these two different measures of time (and why does BCE count backwards to that defining moment in history that no one wants to mention anymore..
If people don’t like this old-fashioned method for separating the ancient from the more modern, they should come up with something they think is a better method of classifying historical periods.