There have been Orthodox Jewish men who have served in the House, and this rule was never changed for them. But the principle must always be maintained: wherever Islamic law and custom and American law and custom conflict, American law and custom must give way.
“US House Reverses 181-Year-Old-Rule To Appease Newly Elected Muslim,” by Cillian Zeal, Western Journal, November 17, 2018:
For 181 years, you haven’t been able to wear head coverings on the floor of the House of Representatives. Now, however, after the election of the first hijab-wearing Muslim representative, that’s about to be changed.
According to the New York Post, the election of Minnesota’s Ilhan Omar will put an end to a rule that was originally meant to differentiate Congress from British Parliament.
Parlimentarians had a tradition of wearing hats on the floor of Westminster. Given that we took up coffee as our national beverage (and even threw that dastardly tea over the sides of some ships in Boston Harbor) to let the British know how we felt about their institutions, banning hats only seemed to come naturally.
However, in the age of Ilhan Omar, that’s changing.
“There are those kinds of policies that oftentimes get created because people who have blind spots are in positions of influence and positions of power,” Omar said Thursday.
“I think it will be really exciting to see the stuff that we notice within the rules that don’t work for a modern-day America.”…
There have been numerous changes to dress code in Congress over the years; women were forbidden to wear pants on the floor until 1993, and bare arms were first allowed under Paul Ryan’s speakership.
So, the times they do a-change when it comes to congressional styles. However, the aforementioned rules were based around gender biases and the norms of the era; there wasn’t any real or symbolic reasoning behind them. In this case, it isn’t quite that simple.
As the House’s website notes, proposals to ban head coverings dated back to 1822. In 1833, future president James K. Polk proposed that the House “provide that the members should sit in the House uncovered, unless under special leave of the Speaker.”
Others pointed out “the symbolic value of the tradition, noting that members of the British House of Commons wore hats during debate to symbolize that body’s independence from the King of England.”
Of course, the case could be made that a religious argument against it could have existed since 1845, when Lewis Charles Levin became the first Jewish man elected to Congress.
Granted, Levin is probably best remembered as a vicious anti-Catholic, anti-foreigner zealot, but the point still holds that for 173 of the 181 years that the head-covering ban has existed, there’s likely been a compelling reason to abandon it for Jewish men who wish to wear the kippah. Yet, we’ve seen no movement on the matter until now.
Should the tradition be amended? It’s interesting that the only representative who plans to take advantage of this new rule is Representative-elect Omar; even Watson Coleman says she’s not going to be taking advantage of it.
While we appreciate the fact that the hijab is part of Omar’s religious dress, we also appreciate that head coverings have likely been the part of other representatives’ religious dress, and they also haven’t been able to wear them on the floor, either. This wasn’t just some “blind spot” but part of congressional heritage….
Andy says
You can see where this is all leading for our Judeo-Christian Civilization with Islam.
jule says
I don’t want to believe this NO NO NO. What CAN WE DO?
Andy says
Trump to Offer Asia Bibi Asylum?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8yfgTrz9178
Andy says
Stop the UK’s Foreign Aid To Pakistan!
https://www.therebel.media/stop-uk-foreign-aid-to-pakistan-jack-buckby-rebel-media
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YJJ1JvNN7I
virginia lamp says
yes and the other man in china please get him out
Sam says
Fight back. Find conservative political members call write. Email whitehouse.gov. complain. Form groups fight back. If you do not see where this is going then you are in trouble!!
Kenny Moss says
This is our country being sold out by our politians its time we are going to rise up against the muslims that dont beling in our goverment Cause they have no intention of being American if they did they wouldnt mix religion with politics Leave the Damn Rag Off Your Head have respect for us If not go your stincking ass home
Jeffrey Cahoon says
We the People are witnessing the death of OUR country! Why would OUR congress, whom we have elected, bend over backwards to accommodate sharia law! They should conform to standards set in principle, and just plain courtesy! This time it is starting at the top, We the People have NO SAY in this matter, and don’t say, ‘well, vote’, I do vote, and I am losing faith in doing so! Anyway, we are in the midst of our own destruction!
The Wiseman says
What can we do? We can find out what House Representative proposed this rule change. We can then make this fact known to as many Christians as we can possibly notify by mail and email.
It is interesting that the writer of this screed – one “Robert Spencer” – neglected to do so; he is obviously compromised in some fashion by the Muslims.
Doug Connors says
Why, Is it OK for Democrats to say Christians can not be appointed to jobs because of their Faith? But they are always bending over for the Islamic Faith and do what they want?? Why do Muslims not Assimilate to our values, if they wanted to come to the USA.? Islamic people are always trying to change the Countries they go to and establish Sharia Law, for they are ordered to do so due to the Hadith written in their Holy Quran. Why must we allow people to hide underneath a Garment which hides their ID. This Country is not Saudi Arabia nor a Islamic Country, if they were fleeing Islam, for a better way of life, then why try to change us to Islam. If this not what they were fleeing? Even, our court Judges are reconsizing Islamic law, even when a man beats his wife, this man has a right to beat his wife due to Islam??? Sharia Law is totally anti-constitutional.Yet, Democrats are embracing Islamic Sharia Law. why or is it a vote. George Soros thinks he can control the islamic people to do his bidding for the NWO.
John says
Amen!!!! Sharia Law has no place in this country!! We are a Christian Nation and should remain so!!
Betty says
What is happening to America? God help us! There shouldn’t even be Muslims in our congress or senate !this is America!!
James says
I also think it is a mistake to make any concessions to Islam in our government. The Muslims should play by the same rules as everybody and not demand special privileges. Giving in is just virtue signalling. But one thing we should remember is how much corruption and dishonesty, opportunism and selfishness is found in the rest of Congress and has been there for decades or more. The way they campaign on conservative values but when they get in power they do not keep their promises. Or their relatives profit from insider knowledge and get big contracts for pork barrel projects. The amount of harm they do far exceeds any harm this woman is likely to do. She probably will not be able to play the system to enrich herself and her friends and family the way so many representatives do. Just read the books by Peter Schweizer on the topic. Insofar, let us not get distracted by an annoying person in Congress. Of course if Islamization reaches the levels one sees in the UK, as Katie Hopkins reports in youtube videos or Douglas Murray, etc., then one has cause to be fearful. Anyway, we should not forget the limitations of Congress. Where is the border wall and immigration reforms to protect us from terrorists and criminals coming across the border? Why does Congress just make excuses and do little or nothing? There is the big problem today. So far at least.
C says
Vote every moronic socialist democrat out of office. People are so stupid they had the chance but instead voted a Muslim into the congress. Like Obama, most likely not an American.
James says
I think what happened in the case of the Muslim woman representative from Minnesota is something like this. Minnesota resettles a lot of refugees. It started with boat people from the Vietnam War, who seem to have adapted and integrated pretty well. They do seem to have a lot of children, but are not known for crime and violence. And now the Democrat governments have been bringing in Muslims from Somalia and similar countries, who are concentrated in certain areas of the Twin Cities. One I think is Cedar Riverside, a complex of apartment houses near the university. So the district that elected her is made up mainly of Muslims, and they will probably only vote for Muslims if they can. Many do not learn English or speak it poorly, and one sees women and children in Muslim costumes in stores and on the street. Female clerks in stores sometimes wear hijabs or other costumes from the third world. So, anyway, the state of Minnesota and especially Minneapolis or the Twin Cities tend to vote Democrat anyway, with some exceptions. And of course she got the Democrat vote. But we can expect her district to elect Muslims for the foreseeable future. My impression from pictures of this woman is that she tries to project what Mark Steyn calls “Prada Islam”. People who approve of hijabs for women assume they are just fashion choices. A German woman I know was praising the president of Turkey for freeing women to wear such fashion accessories. But of course she was probably ignorant of how Muslim fanatics sometimes kiill or beat women for not wearing such costumes. I remember a part of Berlin where a lot of Turks live, and there were some mannequins in a store window dressed in wedding dresses for women, and they wore a sort of head band that was apparently stylish for Turkish weddings. Perhaps a compromise with Western fashion. So of course there can be a certain stylization or adaptation of Muslim costumes. Usually people try to adapt to a new country and adopt its traditions and styles. But I guess it is often different with third world immigration.
f c king says
So you can wear a baseball hat backwards there now ?
Andy says
THE DEATH OF NATIONS
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MSbzav6UITA
Don says
The girl in that video was fired by Ezra. She started writing a bunch of antisemitism on her Twitter and social media feeds. Then started hanging out with Anglin, and others deep into the alt-right, then positively covered the Charlottesville Nazi March, then gave a positive interview with Daily Stormer. That’s why the people started liking her. They didn’t care much about her when she was just Ezra’s reporter. She’s also made multiple pro Russian and anti Israel Tweets you may be able to find them, I saw them the day she had written them. She was previously a strong proponent of the Jews.
Andy says
Hello Don
I take them as they come good and bad, people have the right to freedom of speech regardless if we agree with them or not. As long as nobody gets physically hurt or assaulted or blocks you from your message. Everyone should have the right to say what they want.
It is up to us to investigate and find out for ourselves the opinions of what people say.
We have a very big uphill battle against the Islamisation of our Judeo-Christian Civilization on our hands and need all the Patriots to be on board to fight together to win this war against Islam.
Andy says
Meanwhile, in America look at Antifa Masked Leftists Take Over Streets of Portland, Oregon
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VlBv9rFVuGI
gravenimage says
Don, you are right.
And Andy, no one is taking away anyone’s freedom of speech by noting their unsavory associations. In fact, this itself is freedom of speech.
That being said, she does make some important points in the video above.
Andy says
Again, Grave. Let everyone have a say. Whether we agree with them or not. Mr. Spencer and Jihad Watch let everyone have a say.
Thank you.
gravenimage says
Andy, I am not preventing her from speaking–nor am I suggesting that she be prevented from speaking.
gravenimage says
thebigW, here’s more on the issue:
“Faith Goldy Fired From The Rebel”
http://www.canadalandshow.com/faith-goldy-gone-rebel/
I’m not sure from this exactly what her views are–but nothing Don said is inaccurate. I think we should at least be cautious here.
Pat Hunsucker says
MAGA hats
J D S says
Yes we all can see where this is leading..before long now there will be many more changes to accommodate the muslim…not only in our government but throughout America…It has started (is and has been) and it is very doubtful that we can do anything about it. Too late….Something should have been done years ago to cap Muslim infiltration into our daily life.
All these who are planting seeds of deceit that are giving Islam a wide open gate will, to their surprise, reap a deadly harvest.
virginia lamp says
this is not neccessary..i hope its reversed..allah ahs lightened their burdens in non islamic countries…print this pdf file and share it with others..its never neccessary to bend for them..understand this is political based not religious..she is in support of a foreign government in an american country..she should have never been elected..she does not support our values..
understand its never religious until you confront them and deny them their demands..
now she wants.needs special treatment/laws..its the beginning as well as the anti speech laws they want to enforce..
they say they need protection from hate but its them doing jihad and hijiras..mass invasion..
we need protection from them!!
virginia lamp says
are cowboys getting to wear their boots/spurs and ten gallon hats in side the building..hope she is put out in january with the other democrats.
GIGIJAN says
AGREE!!!!
virginia lamp says
https://www.cspii.org/uploads/book/free_pdf/4/Sharia_Law_v_3.31.2016.pdf
understand that its never neccssary to give in to their demands.
WJH says
When she found out she was elected, she wrapped herself in the Palestinian flag. She hates Isreal, she supports the enemies of America. Therefore, how does she get a secret clearance to view sensitive documents? Wjh
Steven says
This Bs for 181 years it has been law. There should not be a change. Let us the people vote and see what happens.
M. Oconnor says
This is BS, you want to live in this country you live by our rules or get out. All members of the house who favor this should be tried for treason and hung.
Gene Whitney says
You are right. This will definitely lead to changing something to make it difficult for any Christian to abide by the rules one of the Socialist Dems will put in place. If not the Muslim Rep who would love to see all Americans dead. There is no pleasing Muslims no matter what we do for them. Thanks to Obummer and his quest to bring as many radical Islamists into our country as possible. They do not want to assimilate to our culture, but have the audacity to want all of us to assimilate to theirs. SCREW THEM!!!!
DavidE says
By recognizing Llhan Omar and giving him special treatment because he is a Muslim IS THE BEGINNING OF THE END! Islam is like a cancer we need to eliminate. We know what they really want, WORLD CONQUEST AND DOMINATION!
Lulu says
This is hen house, President Trump put forth an executive order that bans this in our government NOW!!!!
karen holyk says
yes This is what they want to take over our country and now it is official. They think we have to bow to them. Everyone who votes in favor of this bill has be be replaced. The dems are not for America and we have to stand and be bold and get them out of office as soon as possible.
Mary says
They knew the law before they ran for office. If they can’t abide our laws, leave America. This is a disgrace to our country. You give these people an inch, they will take a mile.
Frank Anderson says
Mary, and all others who are mistaken, I don’t think you understand that the rules of the House of Representatives are not law. They are rules adopted by a majority of the controlling caucus, in this case incoming Democrats, who wish to make the incoming muslim Democrats feel “welcome”. The majority OF the majority decides these rule for the whole body. There is no action by the Senate or the President required. The rules are not law.
Albert Witte says
Don’t know about you,but I will not abide by islam nor will I accept it. I don’t believe in those devil worshippers!
Pat Hunsucker says
The rules were in place when she decided to run. They were not a surprise. They should NOT be changed for a Sharia Law ( the doctrines against OUR laws ) person.
Ken says
It’s time for America and the free world to wake up to the fact that Islam is a POLITICAL system hiding under the name RELIGION!
It is one more SATANIC cult that is aimed at conquering the world. Secret societies, the DEEP STATE, Islam are all Satan driven groups openly work to destroy our belief and trust in Jesus. If they do not believe who Jesus is, why the uproar every time we make the effort to follow Him?
Gravey says
What happened to separation of church and state…
Jim says
This is what happens when ignorant people vote for the anti-American Democrats. We have to withstand their hatred for two years, but we do not have to agree with it. Write, phone, email and shout from roof tops to let them know how much we disagree with becoming a third world country. Those that refuse to comprehend our way of life can let the door hit them in the butt on their way out. Sharia Law is evil and should not be condoned in our country, period.
Frank Anderson says
TWO outstanding reasons for the change:
1. There are approximately 1.6 BILLION muslims in the world and growing rapidly. There are 16 MILLION Jews in the world and declining. Jews have never tried to force Judaism on any country and have tried to maintain their identity while conforming to the local customs where they reside. Not so with muslims.
2. Look who is taking control of the House. How many ways can they surrender the history, customs and security of the United States to all forms of invasion and conquest?
When in a Reform Temple, wearing the kippah is optional and neither encouraged not discouraged. In a Conservative congregation, wearing the kippah by all is the custom. I think for Orthodox wearing the kippah is an important demonstration of faith and commitment that extends into much of every day life. But, to conform with the customs of Congress, Jewish representatives have conformed without complaint for how many years? This is truly another sign of surrender to conquest. How approximately 75 percent of US Jews can go along with this is beyond my understanding.
J D S says
Once again…my favorite…
There no aircraft engines whirring overhead dropping bombs on our cities…No tanks grinding their tracks in our streets…No stomp of boots marching through our streets….Our citizens are not being dragged from their homes and beheaded, shot, enslaved or imprisoned…..YET..our very way of life, that so many have fought for , given their life’s blood for and died for…. IS UNDER ATTACK…Are we going to have a civil war to stop what is being given away? Or will our government finally start passing laws and enforcing laws already on the books to address the Islamic situation…..
I know that there is RELIGION involved …But..think about it….Our country was established on Christian values..and there is such a contrast between Islam and the other ESTABLISHED religions that the difference is actually between daylight and darkness….So which does one want running our country??? But is it too late? Is another Europe waiting in the wings? Is civil war inevitable??
Frank Anderson says
JDS, positive values are not uniquely Christian, but are shared in the teachings, but not necessarily in the practice of many religions. Values of freedom, truth, respect, progress, opportunity, tolerance, responsibility all contrary to the teachings and practice of islam are taught by many religions, with some practicing what is taught better than others. I have tried to learn from every source at every opportunity all that I can to make my life better and more peaceful. That is not what is taught or practiced in islam. I have also tried to show respect for any difference I have in my views from those who differ, because they are just as likely to be correct as I am. I sincerely believe as a scientific fact that we are all God’s Children, who are given a choice to accept that Fatherhood or not. I also believe He never gives up on us even when we try to give up on Him. I have seen enough in my life to convince me of this view. God does not throw away His Children because of their errors-that is how we learn what cannot be learned in perfection. “Behold how good and how pleasant it is when brethren dwell together in unity. . .”
virginia lamp says
islam is not a religion..its a government..their sharia laws are not really for the muslims if you read them..its how to treat women subjugate them punish them permission to kill them..permission to abuse children and women..
permission to rape women an children..
permission to persecute those who oppose them
permission to punish anyone for anything..
https://www.cspii.org/uploads/book/free_pdf/4/Sharia_Law_v_3.31.2016.pdf
read understand the pdf file im posting it clearly explains sharia laws
then read the following link and see how sharia laws have gotten into us courts
https://www.cspii.org/uploads/book/free_pdf/4/Sharia_Law_v_3.31.2016.pdf
both of the sites these come will help you see how bad its gotten..
type in your state and follow it with the word sharia..you will see a list of articles and how each
independant state has had to pass bills to deny sharia laws in their courts..it is actually bills denying foreign laws from being used in us courts but the muslims scream its a personal islamaphobe move to do this..they want sharia laws to override us constitutional laws..muslim brotherhood and splc are the first jump on this and scream victimhood..really cause we dont use british laws or italian laws or french laws either..xo its not a personal islamaphobe move to use us laws in a us court system..
the only true reason behind the desire of sharia laws are that the muslims under sharia laws can back out of any legal binding agreement when they no longer want to keep the agreement..same with divorces and child custody..the woman gets nothing and her children are given to the man..
if youre still confused on this heres another link..
http://www.billionbibles.org/default.html
PRCS says
Virginia,
Per Warner:
Political Islam, Not Religion
Islam is a religion AND a political system. The only part you need concern yourself with is political.
PRCS says
tbW,
Virginia had said “islam is not a religion.”, but then cited Bill Warner–who stated that it is.
Notmoron says
UK arrived to America !
Don McKellar says
This is nothing. Just you all wait until the new Left-Fascist Congress starts issuing bills supporting sharia law and restricting freedom of speech when it comes to Islam. All based on some made-up hype around Trump. The clock is ticking on that one. You just wait.
mortimer says
The Bolsheviks used the Muslims as allies as the Bolsheviks persecuted, imprisoned and executed thousand of Orthodox priests, closed churches and convents. THEN, after they had brought the churches into voiceless subjection, the Bolsheviks TURNED ON THE MUSLIMS and closed mosques, banned Islamic practices and suspended polygamy and THEN they exiled millions of Muslims from Europe to Siberia.
American BOLSHEVIKS in the Dem party will eventually TURN ON THEIR ERSTWHILE Muslim allies.
The unholy RED-GREEN AXIS OF EVIL will not last decades… just as long as one side doesn’t substantially betray the other. It’s a softly-softly approach and anyone who doesn’t agree to the DESTRUCTION OF CHRISTIANDOM will be called a racist … regardless of their race.
Uriah Sheep says
Totally agree with that, Mortimer. It is the Muslims who are being used. After all, it is the white elite Communists that have their fingers on the nuclear arsenal, the weaponised viruses and the many chemical weapons.
1.6 billion people would be annihilated in no time.
The Muslims are too blind to see this. They think their Umma is just around the corner.
gravenimage says
In Iran it was the Muslims who used the Communists. The Mullahs turned on Communist Tudeh Party members and savagely liquidated them as soon as they had consolidated their power.
Paraskevi says
Yes, Mortimer! Ignorance and lack of historical knowledge have made people into gullible fools. However, Orthodoxy seems to be making a comeback in Russia with many new churches being built. Are the people returning to the faith, to the true Church? That, I do not know.
jule says
I don’t want to believe this NO NO NO. What CAN WE DO?
jayell says
There is a remedy, but unfortunately it’s illegal in a civilised country. The fact that this specimen dosen’t really belong in a civilised country us sadly irelevant.
gravenimage says
There are civilized ways to fight back against creeping Shari’ah, Jayell.
gravenimage says
US House drops 181-year-old rule against headcoverings to appease newly elected hijabbed Muslim
………………
Disgusting appeasing of Islam. What next?
Leon Degney says
I really didn’t expect anything less from this mob. Just look at Australia for prime examples of appeasement to the sick ideology. Muslim members of parliament are yelling for blasphemy laws, sharia etc. I think with the latest attack in Melbourne there seems to be a gradual awakening to the Islamic agenda amongst the political class, we’ll just have to wait and see if it is prolonged or just a splash in the p[an.
gravenimage says
I think Infidels *are* waking up, I just pray it is fast enough.
jule says
We have to start really thinking hard on what to do!!! There must be. There must.
PRCS says
As she has been wearing that getup, this is NOT a surprise.
Just wait until the Shi’a crowd starts conducting Ashura flagellations on Minnesota’s Statehouse steps.
mummymovie says
Awww, Hell. Here we go.
Absolutely pathetic. But then, I’ve always told heavy-handed American critics of the UK, France, Germany, Belgium, Sweden, etc. here on J-Dub to prepare for this, because when it gets to be our turn, I think we will see our representatives cave, bend, buckle, and crumble with a nearly unprecedented, chickens%#t weakness and PC fecklessness that would make even lefties cringe a little.
And here we are.
Brace yourselves. This is just the beginning, and It’s only going to get worse. We are way too busy with our breads and circuses: smartphones, home hubs, Bluetooth lead sets, drones, scooters, electronics, technology, consumerism, and social media to ever be bothered to do anything about this creeping sharia here in America.
So much for that good old American resolve. Hold on to your hats!
somehistory says
This is the arrogance of the fool who bows to a non-existent god:
“There are those kinds of policies that oftentimes get created because people who have blind spots are in positions of influence and positions of power,” Omar said Thursday. (she wants to “create” a few that enable her to continue “blind” and force others to become so)
“I think it will be really exciting to see the stuff that we notice within the rules that don’t work for a modern-day America.”…(wearing what women in her religion have been forced to wear for centuries…is not “modern.”)
If she is going to be wearing her clothes that shout that she is moslim, since she is a woman, she should have to sit at the very back of the chamber and not be allowed to speak. And she should not be allowed to enter the building unless a male relative…perhaps her *husband/brother* …walks with her and sits with her. And since that would not be allowed on a daily basis, he only being allowed to come in and listen under special circumstances, she can’t come in either. If she wants *some*…make her take *all.*
Elisha says
“allah”, aka Satan certainly does exist. Just make sure you don’t spend eternity with him. Mark 1:15
somehistory says
Ah, yes, but he’s the same as he was during the days of ba’al and molech. No way does he have the power to do all his servants think he does and in the end, he will be cast into the fire.
In the sense I meant, he is no “god” and is “fake” and as a true god, he does not exist.
Much like the “gods” made by the man cooking his supper with a portion of a piece of wood and carving a ‘god” from another portion.
satan is not the “god” he pretends to be.
PRCS says
“This is the arrogance of the fool who bows to a non-existent god:”
Unless you can prove they exist, they’re all non-existent.
infidel says
Now why would one not expect this UNDESERVING PEST OF A TROJAN to take this opportunity to sneak in Sharia in the US senate for goodness sake!! How great nations stumble on their own errors@!!
dan christensen says
The day a jijabbed woman enters congress, will be a new, but spiritual “Pearl Harbor” for the US.
Except that in this case, the US surrenders unconditionally.
Frank Anderson says
Dan C., can you imagine that some or many people felt the same way the first time Nazi delegates entered the Reichstag wearing SA (Storm Trooper) uniforms?
Leon Degney says
Yes, they did but it did them no good. The Nazis soon over-ran the place. Should be a lesson learned, but no, each generation seems to have to touch the stove to learn the lesson.
James Borona says
The invaders descend from the islamic Trojan Horse. Another example of the fools in a misguided U.S. Congress.
John Frey says
No we don’t need to appease her ! Follow our laws or get out !
Daniel Silvan says
Appeasing islam only results in further demands for appeasement.
gravenimage says
So true, Daniel.
Indiana Tom says
This is the real problem…and everybody goes right along with it.
Muslims are part of the problem, but the Neville Chamberlains and Quislings are the biggest problem.
Jayell says
Don’t understand that! Isn’t that the equivalent of saying that Hitler was only part of the problem Chamberlain & Co. were the biggest problems? Like the chicken and egg have been reversed? Or you justify cancer by saying that chemotherapy is awful?
gravenimage says
Unfortunately, Jayell, Chamberlain and Quisling were not curing the cancer of Hitler–they were enabling him.
andy mckendrick says
Come on guys loosen -up , if she didn’t wear the rag on her head , she`d get the shit kicked out of her.
James says
We are not living in a Muslim country, and no one has the right to harm any woman in America for not wearing Muslim costumes. Do we have to surrender to Muslim dress codes everywhere in the USA? Would it not be better to put a stop to Muslim immigration if we have to change our customes and laws to comply with theirs? Whose country is this anyway?
gravenimage says
+1
ronyvo says
Again, Islam is like the worst kind of cancer if starts and not dealt with rapidly it will spread fast. What astonishes me is the fact that it is very easy to confirm this. Thee Koran is aa screaming proof of the utter hate and violence, the criminal acts committed by Muslims all over is some how ignored in the West.
The mainstream media is our enemy #1.
But, what happened to the American pride and patriotism?????
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
At last! It comes 162 years too late, but finally the Chaplain of the House of Representative can wear appropriate headgear to allow him to be located by our elected lawmakers.
“Daniel Waldo (September 10, 1762 – July 30, 1864) was an American clergyman. Born in Windham, Connecticut, Waldo served in the American Revolutionary War and later became a missionary and clergyman. In 1856, at the age of 94, Waldo was named Chaplain of the House of Representatives.
It is recorded that he was in good health during his service to the House; he was also one of seven Revolutionary War veterans who, having survived into the age of photography, were featured in the 1864 book The Last Men of the Revolution (which gives many more details of his life). Waldo died in Syracuse, New York at the advanced age of 101, of injuries sustained after falling down a flight of stairs, and he was given a memorial in the House itself.”
Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daniel_Waldo
https://duckduckgo.com/?q=where%27s+waldo+hat&iar=images&iax=images&ia=images
WPM says
She can work on changing all western laws culture and tradition now. Is she the one that committed either immigration fraud or incest by marry her “brother’ so he could immigrate here. She can lower the age of marriage for women to 6,she can make honor killing a personal family matter. If two men can get married why can,t a man have four wives ? What about giving a good old fashion beating to the wife ,with a rape thrown in for not putting out enough for the Moslem hubby. What idiots vote these throw backs to the 7 century into office? How would a man be treated if he show up to represent his elected area in Congress dress in a Buddhist Monk outfit? If a women show up dress in a 19 century nun outfit? The reason for dress code in the army, in some schools ,in many jobs is to put everyone on the same level were personal performance matters more then personal apparel. She has to make herself special because she has to appear to be superior to her other Congressmen and women who have to play by the rules .
Obbop says
Cohort of New Founders. Plan for Revolutionary War Two.
Lorensacho says
Good for the House. America’s demographics are changing.Accommodating people’s religious beliefs is what is behind religious freedom laws that permit American Christian to refuse to provide service to people whose life styles they abhor, so why not permit religious Jews to wear kippot which is a Jewish man’s expression of respect for God, and Muslim women their headscarves which they view as an act of modesty. We should all support tolerance.
6woods says
Oh yes, absolutely, “we should all support tolerance”. Except Muslims, right? They don’t need to tolerate other religions because their “holy book” expressly forbids such tolerance. Should we “tolerate” death for apostasy, honour killing, killing of gay people – in fact, just the wholesale killing of anyone and everyone who isn’t muslim, or muslim enough?
gravenimage says
Lorensacho wrote:
Good for the House. America’s demographics are changing.Accommodating people’s religious beliefs is what is behind religious freedom laws that permit American Christian to refuse to provide service to people whose life styles they abhor, so why not permit religious Jews to wear kippot which is a Jewish man’s expression of respect for God, and Muslim women their headscarves which they view as an act of modesty. We should all support tolerance.
…………………..
The headscarf has nothing to do with modesty–it is a gang sign and tells Muslims who they have the right to rape. Surely you are not in favor of this?
Victory in Christ says
This is stealth jihad. You make small movements that seem harmless enough. I saw comments that as islam she will not put our Constitution first or uphold it. That is correct, islam is above all else. The islamist is above and better than all other people. islam will not support the U.S. islam is a system of government. The Trojan Horse is an excellent comparison. Wrapping up islam in the pretty ribbon of religion gets the Trojan Horse rolled into the city square.
Ren says
Laws apply to all, including muslims. This is a shame.
Frank Anderson says
Ren, I welcome correction anytime I am in error. I think rules of the House of Representatives are not law. I also think the majority caucus makes the rules with no input from the minority. With the change of control in the new year, the new majority can change any rule the majority of the majority wishes, and the minorities within the caucus and on the other side of the aisle can go suck eggs.
One of the advantages of our legal system followed in many countries which do not use the Roman/Code Napoleon system, The Common Law, that has survived more or less since 1066, is that it follows a rule until different facts, different policies, new information comes to light. Then the rule can be changed, limited or removed. If this means Orthodox Jews can wear their yarmulkah’s (kippahs) so much the better. That could help them remember who is trying to remove all Jews from living. We can always hope.
“Where you stand often depends on where you sit.”
gravenimage says
Frank–with all respect–I don’t think there’s any real way to spin antisemitic, Hijabbed Muslimahs infiltrating Congress as a good thing.
She is also pro-Jihad:
http://www.fox9.com/news/minnesota-isis-sentencing-ilhan-omar-letter
Frank Anderson says
GI, “Let me make this perfectly clear” I am not supporting the decision to allow muslim headgear when Jewish coverings have been prohibited for more than a century. The utter hypocrisy of the non-Jewish leadership, and the absurd weakness and collaboration of Jewish members in standing still for this change is disgusting. But unless I am totally in error, House rules are adopted and can be changed by a majority of the controlling caucus, soon to be Democrats, They are not passed by the House and Senate to be signed into law by the President. So they can be changed on a whim, much like the individual rights of people who live in countries without a written Constitution.
gravenimage says
Frank, you are quite right that this proposal will likely pass the soon to be Democratic-majority House.
PRCS says
This does NOT come as a surprise.
That she would have been required to leave her hijab “at the door” was simply not in the cards.
And, I’d bet on more, many more Islamic calls to prayer in our nation’s capitol building, and that none of our “leaders” will oppose that.
Halal Bacon says
Is she also the first congress-person to have experienced FGM?
Estee Tabernac says
Yes, probably! However, I’m sure there are many congress-persons who have experienced MGM. Why is it OK to mutilate little boys but not little girls?
gravenimage says
Is see the appalling “Estee Tabernac” is back–this time pretending that male circumcision removes the glans of the penis just as FGM hacks out the clitoris.
jule says
That does not compare to circumcision of a male. What you are talking about would compare Removing a male penis like making him a eunick.
PRCS says
Her brother would know.
Don says
What evidence do you have that Levin was “viscous”? Jews were fully barred from all Catholic territory at the time. You also leave out that many of the founders of the US were anti-Catholic. Also he was not against foreigners, just Catholics. Are you getting it from Wikipedia, where someone gathered a bunch of hate against Levin?
gravenimage says
Who here has claimed that Levin was vicious? What?
Dr. Doom says
Can’t happen here? What has happened in Europe can’t happen here? Oh, how I beg to differ.
Angemon says
Funny how that perfectly applies to policies on taking in “Syrian” “refugees” – their proponents – the people in positions of power and influence – have blindspots – because they’ll never, ever have to deal with the “refugees”, since “refugees” don’t tend to live in white-majority gated communities…
Frank Anderson says
Angemon, I don’t think anyone can be that “blind” (stupid). They know what they are doing and promoting every step of the way. “Deliberate ignorance constitutes knowledge of the truth.” As long as “we” make excuses for “them” we fail to hold “them” responsible for the harm they put upon us.
gravenimage says
Frank, unfortunately I know a lot of otherwise intelligent people stupid enough to consider Syrian Muslim Jihadists to be just “needy refugees”.
Frank Anderson says
GI, THEY have the good fortune of knowing an astute, alert, knowledgeable person. You have the misfortune of knowing collaborating idiots. The time for excuses and patience is shrinking with every invader to our freedom, just as the time for awakening shrank to zero of Jews in Germany.
gravenimage says
Thank you, Frank. Unfortunately, there are still a *lot* of people in denial.
Frank Anderson says
GI, I will support any Republican candidate for office in preference to a Democrat, In my part of the country, that makes me a “yellow dog Republican.” I have no great commitment to Mitt Romney for a few reasons. BUT, one thing that he said during his 2012 campaign that was absolutely true, and an honest assessment of the situation got him hours of attacks. It comes from the Trichotomy Law of mathematics, everything is greater than, less than or equal to everything else. Everything being mathematical quantities.
What can this possibly have to do with our conversation? Romney said in a meeting which was recorded that no matter what he does or says 48 percent of people will oppose him. You and I, and all who share our hopes for the future, face a population made up of people who agree, others who disagree no matter what we do, and those who don’t know yet. Among those who disagree there may be a few who might see a reason to change their minds and join “us” in promoting liberty. Some time is well spent with those who agree with us, because they can help win others to our side. A lot of time and resources spent on the “undecided” gives the best chance for victory. Worrying about those who are committed to surrender and collaboration is a waste of scarce and valuable resources. After being labeled a Nazi for honest discussion of islam at Torah Study, I learned some people are a waste of my time. For all the education and experience in that room (mine being more or less equal to any of them), and the annual commemoration of the Holocaust in that entire local community, they just don’t want to confront reality. So that taught me to move on and find more responsive communities for company. My uncle would probably say 2×4’s may work fine for stubborn mules, but not humans. I’m not interested in any confrontation nor do I suggest it for others. There are more productive ways to “Win Friends and Influence People”..
James Lincoln says
Is this the first instance of “sharia compliance” by the United States on a national level?
At this rate, it seems like we’re 10-15 years behind Western Europe.
I hope that I am wrong.
Tim Brown says
they haven’t dropped the rules yet.
gravenimage says
True, Tim.So far, this is just a proposal:
“Ilhan Omar Wants to Change the Outdated Rule That Bans Hijab in Congress”
https://www.teenvogue.com/story/ilhan-omar-outdated-rule-that-bans-hijab-in-congress
With a Democratic House, though, it may well pass.
dan christensen says
“I think it will be really exciting to see the stuff that we notice within the rules that don’t work for a modern-day America.”…
A splendid example of the complex ravings of most politicians. Could be that the hijab is too hot to wear. How can anyone think clearly, with the head wrapped in a beach towel?
What the heck does the woman mean by the bravado above?
Possibly she seems to inform us that she represents a glorious renewal of American democracy (rules that don’t work), by replacing it with sharia. As a muslima, she of course must be ruled by a male relative. So who is this hidden mystery guy controlling the towel towering female?
No Muzzies Here says
Betting that they won’t let Catholic nuns wear their headgear.
Tom Steele says
People who are fussed out at her having to wear a head covering are on about the same level as people who get fussed out by women not wearing head coverings. Judge her by her skills, knowledge and ability to do the job, not by what she is wearing!
Wellington says
So, Tom Steele, if she wore a swastika armband you’d say the same thing?
For the record, I see Islam as the proto-type for Nazism. Islam preaches a master faith and Nazism preached a master race. Whenever I see a woman wearing an hijab, I ordinarily think to myself I might as well be seeing her displaying a swastika. Ditto for burqas, skull caps worn by Muslim men, etc. Yes, Islam is this terrible and one knows this or should know it. Seems you don’t.
Tom Steele says
That’s really quite sad. She wears a headscarf, not a swastika. I guess you feel the same way about Orthodox male Jews who wear a yamakha or females who wear a wig. How do you feel about Sikhs who wear a turban? Religious intolerance is very creepy. It grows like cancer and when it gets out of control, a lot of people suffer needlessly. I don’t understand how you think the best way to deal with it is to generate more intolerance. Could it be that you enjoy it and want to promote it? Are you ready to shoot up a mosque? Would you prefer someone else to do it if you can stir-up enough hatred? Does bigotry give you any satisfaction or feeling that you are making a better world for your children? I am a Christian. I am also a father, brother, son, husband, a hard worker, university educated with a post graduate degree, have lived in 4 countries, speak 3 languages and many other things. Please do not make assumptions about me based on my religion alone. If that is all you need to know about me, I’d prefer you knew nothing at all. From what you describe about your feeings when you see a woman wearing a headscarf, I think you have an emotional problem that needs attention. Maybe you should try to get to know a Muslim woman and get beyond your stereotyping. It’s much better to have them as friends than enemies. Just saying ….
PRCS says
Her head cover signifies membership in a worldwide nation and her belief in the teachings of a complete and totalitarian way of life which, in great measure, is utterly incompatible with the oaths of office she’s already taken and which she will again take this coming January.
I judge her on that, first and foremost.
And about your assumption that Wellington doesn’t know any Muslim women….
Wellington says
Wow, you set up a lot of straw men and then knocked them down. How brave and enlightened of you. How cheap actually.
And yes, I am intolerant of massive intolerance, for instance Nazism, Marxism AND Islam. The fact that you don’t comprehend that Islam is a belief system of MASSIVE intolerance speaks volumes about you. Not that you get this. I suspect you get very little.
And I don’t care how many degrees you have or how many languages you speak. How is that at all germane to my basic contention that Islam is a menace to liberty and equality under the law wherever it has been dominant? Care to name a single majority-Muslim nation, and there are over fifty, in which true freedom exists and true equality under the law exists? Wherever Islam has dominated it has crushed freedom and has set up a Jim Crow system based not on race but on belief. Go ahead, prove me wrong. I say you can’t. My God, man, do you even know the difference between the dar-al-Islam and the dar-al harb? Do you know what muruna means? How about the term, kitman? Are you even aware that in Islamic law it takes two women to equal one man’s testimony?
And so no more straw man arguments, and spare me too about the degrees you have, the countries you have lived in, and the languages you speak. Because doing so is the pathetic and highly fallacious appeal to authority “argument,” which is really no true argument at all. Or do you not grasp even this?
Bottom line: Islam is the turd in the punch bowl of world religions. It is, as Bertrand Russell observed almost a hundred years ago, in his The Theory and Practice of Bolshevism, the only major religion which is totalitarian in structure and ideology. This is why Russell compared Islam in this work of his and in other works to Marxism and fascism. Winston Churchill, a far more direct of a person than Russell, said of Islam, “No stronger retrograde force exists in the world.” Churchill also observed that, “Islam in a man is like rabies (hydrophobia) in a dog.” As for the character of Mohammed, John Quincy Adams, perhaps the only American President with a higher IQ than Thomas Jefferson, said of Mohammed, “The essence of his doctrine was violence and lust, to exalt the brutal over the spiritual part of human nature.” Or do you care to dismiss these three men’s assessment of Islam as well as my own? Oh yeah, do so, and give your reasons why.
Finally, and as Robert Spencer himself has pointed out, Islam is the only religion that calls for war to be made upon humanity “until all religion is with Allah.” {Sura 8:39} There are 109 verses in the Koran calling for such a war as opposed to 0 verses in the New Testament calling for war to be made upon humanity until all the world is Christian. Or don’t you know even this? BTW, I am not a Christian or religious in the least but I know something you don’t and that is that no other major faith is a mortal threat to liberty as Islam is. I could write far more, but this is enough for now because your ignorant, even narcissistic response (“…have lived in 4 countries, speak 3 languages and many other things.”) is both beside the point and pathetic.
Your turn. Give it a shot. But know full well that I think Islam is as evil as Nazism and Marxism. Yeah, at least know this about me and go from there. And next time try to provide refutation of my contentions rather than citing your “achievements” and your simply wonderful broad mindedness. Done here, doofus—at least for now. And know this too: I never give up.
gravenimage says
What claptrap from Tom Steele, who regularly spouts Islamic apologia here.
Would he also demand “religious tolerance” for Muslims raping unveiled women? Because this is what he Hijab is about. Is he also fine with Muslims murdering women and girls who resist wearing the Hijab? If not, why wouldn’t he consider this intolerance against Islam?
His claiming that if you take issue with Shari’ah in our government that you are poised to shoot up a Mosque is just grotesque calumny. Jihad Watch *opposes* violence. This is nothing but projection.
And I see the implication, again, that if only “Islamophobes” got to know enough Muslims, that all of those 34,000+ would somehow just go away, How would that work?
jule says
This is not the same thing as Sikh, Buddhist, Jew, Christian at all. You have to read the Qur’an to see WHAT it IS and what they want. It is the very much like what the nazisymbol stands for. Try reading it. Yes, its a chore but how Americans can blindly accept something that is Bigoted, Supremacist and Active in achieving its goals is just unbelievable. Read it first and find out what Islam is really all about before swallowing it whole like you should about anything else.
James says
Well, I cannot add much to what has been said above. I would hope that a Muslima is not appointed to the Supreme Court and decides to wear her headcovering in that body. And it seems to me that the Constitution is basically incompatible with the holy scriptures of Islam anyway. I think I have read that before the election she was for Israel, and afterward she was for Boycott, Divest and Sanction (BDS), which suggests she was not being honest, unless she suddenly had a religious revelation. That does not bode well for her service to her country. Perhaps she might be an aid to the Republicans in winning back the House, by demonstrating how loopy the Dems are getting. One sort of expects this sort of thing from parts of Minneapolis and the Dems there. No offense intended, but I would think that they could have run a candidate with better qualifications to make laws for the United States. What committees will she be on and what positions will she take, and what relevance does that have to the USA? Perhaps she ought instead serve in a local government body where she can represent her constituents, such as Muslims in Minneapolis. The man who demonstrated his qualifications to be tolerant does not seem to have analyzed the relation of these qualifications to judging the wisdom of introducing Muslim practices in the Congress. Probably a lot of people who speak even more languages or have even more academic qualifications are opposed to flaunting religious symbolism in Congress. I would think so. I would think being a historian of Islam or of political movements might be more useful than speaking several languages. Unless they are scriptural Muslim languages that enable one to better understand Muslim writings. Sort of like the requirement to learn classical and medieval Greek or Latin to be a church scholar. And unless one specializes on Islam, that knowledge would not be so important. One of my friends writes on Christian medieval history, whereby Islam is only mentioned on the margin in his works. I think of wearing an Islamic female headdress in Congress is a bit similar to wearing one in a Christian church or Jewish synagogue. Whether one should do that? I think maybe not as a rule. Or coming to church wearing clothes inconsistent with the occasion. Perhaps one should expect a certain fitting in with the purpose of Congress to make law for the whole country, which is not a country based on Islamic scriptures in any normal sense of the words, despite what Pres. Obama has said. So, in summary, I do not believe people who oppose wearing such clothing in Congress are to be thought of as prejudicial or racist or Islamophobic. That seems to me to be a bit extreme.
James says
Continuing my comment: Incidentally, I do think one can object to wearing a religious headdress in the House of Representatives simply because it is not customary and it marks the House with a reminder of a particular religion that has not been so favorable to our government or culture and society. Actually religion should not be pushed into the center of attention there. I would guess that if a nun were elected, she would not wear her habit in Congress. Or if a nun were employed at a public school, she would also not wear her clerical garb at the school. While it is different to wear this headdress than to wear a Swastika, it also is associated with the oppression of women in Muslim countries. And sometimes women are killed or beaten for refusing to wear it, even in America. Also, some of the things that Islamic imams and scriptures say are comparable to Nazi attacks on Jews, for example. So it is not without associations. Taking an oath on the Koran could in a certain sense be compared to taking an oath on Mein Kampf, as the Nazis hated the Jews, and well, she does not seem to like them very much either. In a local giveaway paper in Minneapolis, I read the following headline: “A history-making election. The color barrier is broken on the county board, and a refugee is going to Congress.” And also “With win, Omar marks several ‘firsts’. The article is celebratory and it quotes her: “A time when racism and white supremacy threatens our very existence, when my status as an immigrant, black, Muslim woman means the administration does not see me as an American. You know I will not bow down. You know I will not back down to fear and hate. I will stand strong with you.” As far as hate goes, she is not exactly positive about the Jews. The World Tribune notes, “In a tweet from November 2012, she stated: “Israel has hypnotized the world, may Allah awaken the people and help them see the evil doings of Israel.” Now, if she feels like a victim deserving of support and approval, perhaps she should feel a little sympathy to the Jews in Israel, who are also victims of Islamic attacks and keep such thoughts about Israel to herself. And I am sure the White House does see her as an American. Accusations of bigotry and racism are common Democrat slurs against the Republican presidency. Soern Kern wrote for Gatestone: “In her acceptance speech, delivered without an American flag, Congresswoman-elect Omar opened her speech in Arabic with the greeting, “As-Salam Alaikum, (peace be upon you), alhamdulillah (praise be to Allah), alhamdulillah, alhamdulillah.” So if this is true, maybe she does not consider herself to be an American but, say, a Palestinian activist in the House of Representatives. But the House is supposedly a place where people who do consider themselves primarily Americans make laws for America, and hopefully they do not see themselves as publicists and lobbyists for foreign causes. But, nevertheless, I wish her well, and I hope she sees the light and becomes a credit to her background in Congress.:
Mo says
@ Tom Steele
“People who are fussed out at her having to wear a head covering are on about the same level as people who get fussed out by women not wearing head coverings. Judge her by her skills, knowledge and ability to do the job, not by what she is wearing! ”
Her head covering represents a totalitarian ideology that is utterly incompatible with American law.THAT is the problem with it.
But I am sure you knew that already. No one can possibly be that ignorant of this basic fact about Islam, not after all these years. So why do you defend it?
jule says
He doesn’t know because he never looked into it but just listens to friends who have been told its ok for globalist Multinational PROFIT making in those countries. Big TECH Corporations who were traditionally Dem when they were small & starting are still Dem BUT NOW BIG CORP PROFITEERS. NEO Dems are not the old Dems but people have not caught up. NEO DEMS are much like REPUBLICANS in the Market. The market controls Media. ALL media. Both sides. Donors, lobbies control Media, politicians and our now PRIVATE WASHINGTON. Dems still have a few different ideas for inside US but not outside, yet they understand neither and get pulled by others agendas. NEO Dems want to make us inside all the same as whatever is outside but do not understand outside any more than they do in Here.
gravenimage says
Actually, “Tom Steele” has an ugly history of apologia for Islam here.
Estee Tabernac says
Get a life!
2 + 2 does not = 6
Somebody should hack out your clitoris or is it a haemorrhoid?
Tom Steele says
Really now???? I see no difference between you and a Nazi. Just substitute the word “Jew” for “Muslim” and you are ready to spout your poison!
It’s obvious that you failed to comprehend my point about identity. You as a typical Nazi, do not allow me to disagree with you. Your dogma is fixed. If you questioned your belief for one minute, you would see how your life is filled with hate. If you profess to be a Christian, I would call you a heretic. You are a symptom of the decline and fall of America. You betray all that America had come value and contribute to the world. You are the death of democracy. Stand tall you proud little fascist!
Wellington says
I allow you to disagree with me. Where did I say I disallow you? Again you set up another straw man and knock it down.
Rather, I think your argument is naive, even stupid. As a Christian, you should know that Islam denies the Crucifixion of Jesus and thus the Resurrection (to be found in Sura 4) and, per Islamic theology, Jesus, a Muslim prophet, at the end of the world is going to come back and throw all Christians into Hell for deifying Him. Did you know this? If not, then you argue from ignorance. If you do, then why would you support a faith which is so disrespectful of yours? As for substituting the word “Jew” for “Muslim,” why would I do that? Judaism is not in any way a threat to liberty. Islam is. Jews don’t virtually daily commit acts of terror in the name of their religion. Muslims do—over 34,000 just since 9/11. The founder of Islam, Mohammed, himself said, “I have been made victorious with terror.” {Sura 9.84.57}
And you had to stoop to calling someone who disagrees with you a Nazi. I detest Nazism. Why do you think I compared Islam to it? Duh. You argue pathetically and irrationally in English or I’m sure in the other two languages you speak. Get a grip.
gravenimage says
Tom Steele wrote:
Really now???? I see no difference between you and a Nazi. Just substitute the word “Jew” for “Muslim” and you are ready to spout your poison!
……………………..
What tripe. Jews are not demanding that Congress change its rules for them.
Nor, of course, does any Jewish head covering indicate a call for the rape of Gentiles, as the Islamic veil calls for the rape of Infidels. Nor have there been cases of Jews murdering Jews for not wearing Jewish head coverings–but this happens in Islam all the time.
More:
It’s obvious that you failed to comprehend my point about identity. You as a typical Nazi, do not allow me to disagree with you.
……………………..
Well, this is ludicrous. No one here said that “Tom Steele” could not disagree with them. What he is instead upset about is that anyone here is opposed to creeping Shari’ah law.
The idea that being opposed to tyranny makes one a Nazi is just calumny.
More:
Your dogma is fixed. If you questioned your belief for one minute, you would see how your life is filled with hate. If you profess to be a Christian, I would call you a heretic.
……………………..
For one thing, not everyone here is Christian. Then, the idea that one addresses supposed intolerance by shrieking that others are “heretics” is just bizarre. Doesn’t he realize that there is nothing tolerant about screaming that those who disagree with him are heretics?
Moreover, there is nothing Christian in Shari’ah law and the Muslim rape of unveiled women. Really, nothing could be further from Christian morality.
More:
You are a symptom of the decline and fall of America. You betray all that America had come value and contribute to the world. You are the death of democracy. Stand tall you proud little fascist!
……………………..
The idea that opposing Shari’ah is anti-American is just grotesque. Really, Islam and Shari’ah deny all values of democracy and equality. It is Islam that is akin to fascism–they are both totalitarian creeds.
The greater part of Tom Steele’s post here has been nothing but projection.
Estee Tabernac says
This conversation smells like a public toilet in Bangladesh during a cholera epidemic.
The ideas put forward are as sensible as a holiday in the Congo during an Ebola outbreak.
The level of integrity is less than the average I.Q. at a Trump rally.
Happy Thanksgiving Gravenimage! What nonsense can you conjure from that?
James says
I take offense at the slur against Trump supporters. I would guess that his supporers are on average smarter than Obama/Clinton/Ellison/Warren/Pelosi/Schumer supporters or supporters of the headscarf Representative. Or of Democrat supporters in general for that matter. But anyway, one does not need much smarts to see what a bad idea it is to give in to the endless demands of a certain religion for special privileges. They never give such privileges to other religions, why should they receive them? Because they are so virtuous? Or so violent and aggressive? Common sense is better than intelligence anyway. Intelligence is the most widely misused talent in the world. Even worse than stupidity. Or perhaps tied with it.
Wellington says
You provide no examples, let alone specific refutations, but only insults, Estee……
Do better next time, doofus, or get lost. My guess is you are either a leftie or a Buttlim. Could be wrong but I’d put a fair amount of money on my guess here. But go ahead and prove me wrong and tell me, assert to me, you are neither a leftie nor a Buttlim. Make my Thanksgiving.
jule says
Nazi? seriously, for stating that it is unfair to orthodox jews ot to let them wear their hats but then to say OK for a Muslim? Who is the Nazitype? Its Islam and if you read the Qur’an, you see it in their print as well as on their preaching. Where do you think Farakan learned it? QUR’AN. Islam is bigoted, Supremacist, antiSemitic and really out to get Jews and their way everywhere and change our country as they are Germany, Sweden, Brits, Belgium, Holland and if you have not realized this READ THE FOREIGN NEWS. WHY DID THEY NOT LET ORTHODOX JEWS BUT NOW THINK MAYBE FOR ISLAM?
jule says
NO RELIGION OF ANY KIND IN GOVERNMENT OF USA. What he said was, If they did not let orthodox Jews wear their hats WHY SHOULD THEY MAKE AN EXCEPTION FOR ISLAM? They should not.
John Bloxson Jr. says
Islam will not Coexist they nust be dominent in every way! So Islam can not Coexist in America send them back to the countries they came from. We can Coexist with Hindu, Buddhist, Toaist, Shinto, but Not Islam. If they don’t want to follow our laws they don’t belong here. Come here seeking asylum waving your old countries flag stay there you don’t belong here. To the Democrats get your buts in gear with American Values not Saul Alinsky Communist Values or do as you promised if Trump Won you would Leave well Trump won get out as you promised!
Jack says
The Democrats would lick shit off a dogs foot if it would get them more Votes
John Bloxson Jr. says
If they don’t want to follow ourLawsget the heckout go back to your ountryof origen you don’t belong here. Wa e a flag not the starsand Strips don’t come here not open to atleast some religios Tollerance don’t come here I will coexist with Jews,Hindu
handymanx1 says
What ever happened to “Separation of church and state” !?
This is the Democrats “MOST UN-AMERICAN ACT YET” hoping to get the Muslim votes.
Can anyone think of ANY COUNTRY, (besides USA) who’s Government, would even consider changing
ANY of their laws or rules for ANY American, for any reason?
Last I checked, our country(USA) is the ONLY one that does.
It makes us appear weak as a country.
This is another line that is going to divide our country. Make us choose one side or another because the
people (Mostly democrats) that are suppose to represent “WE THE PEOPLE”, are hell bent on complete control of the government, and “WE THE PEOPLE” as well. Thats one of the REAL reasons they are in such a hurry to strip away our right to bear arms.
I hope ALL the Dems can now see whos best interest the Dem. Politicians are looking out for……”THEIR OWN”
WE ARE ALREADY LOOSING THE NEXT WAR. A country divided is weak at best. Dividing our country is their mission and guess what….mission accomplished.
If “WE THE PEOPLE” could just get along and STAND AS ONE and quit letting these other countries push us around. We will be a GREAT COUNTRY AGAIN.
jule says
Too bad many have started like Sweden, Germany, Britain, France all the EU and this is why many want OUT and I hope they take the chance. The more the better helping each other as it goes. Sad but Germany will turn back into another naziplace with too much Islam. France too already. People just haven’t yet see how very much like naziIslam is. We have to stand together and KEEP USA OUT OF IT or we will end up with the bad guys again in another Naziholocaust of sorts.
Mike says
So what. Like the sun isn’t going to come up in the morning if this rule is changed. When I was a kid growing up we had a milk man and bread man who stopped door to door you could buy milk, ice cream and bread from. We had rotary dial phones, pulse dialing, party lines, we didn’t have computers, we didn’t have cell phones, we had records, 8 tracks and cassette tapes. We had black and white TVs. I lived in the country; we didn’t have cable TV available in my area until my junior year in high school. We had 2 antennas mounted to the side of the house. We had leaded gas back in those days. Disco was the popular music back then. Bell bottoms were all the rage. Now we have satellite TV, cell phones, lap tops, TV on your lap top. I pods, DVDs and blue ray discs, touch tone phones and various other electronic devices. Times change. Nothing stays static. Quit attaching more to a minor rule change than what it is.
SM1009 says
This is outrageous. We AMERICANS need to do something about this. If you live in America, you have to live by and follow it’s laws. If you do not like it, then go back to your country (you do not belong here). I will be writing to Congress and the White House and I urge all to do the same. These Muslims need to RESPECT our rules and laws.
Prabh says
I have seen a photo of her I think – she has expropriated the Turban of Sikh and Sacred Saffron (Kesari) Colour Of Hindu Dharmic Word.
Somalians have turned the HindMahaSagar (Indian ocean) into a very hellish place. (deadly pirates running wild)
Technically I am against colonialism and mercantile Malthusian economics but it would be so good if Somalia could be colony Of a Dharmic India: A fully saffronized and civilized Somalia could then join the rest of the many and varied races of man and enter the land of the living – a blissful life instead of a slavish life of the “Umma” where they are treated poorly by Arabs – the top dog on the block of the Islamic racial pecking order.
Make Indian Ocean Safe Again!
Prabh108