What a hypocrite. Freedom of religion? If Erdogan values the freedom of religion so highly, why is he trying to choke off and destroy the Greek Orthodox Church by requiring that the Ecumenical Patriarch be a Turkish citizen, and yet closing and refusing to allow the reopening of the only Greek Orthodox seminary in the country? Erdogan has never visited the Christian institutions in Turkey, and has consistently refused to recognize the Ecumenical Patriarch. The hypocrisy of his self-righteous moralizing regarding the Ramadan iftar is compounded by Turkey’s steadfast refusal to admit its complicity in the Armenian Genocide and the Greek and Syro-Chaldean obliteration from Asia Minor.
If Erdogan really believes in religious freedom, he could show it by visiting the Ecumenical Patriarchate and recognizing the right of Christians to live in Turkey. He could allow the Orthodox seminary to reopen. He could maintain the Hagia Sophia as a museum, without continuing its reconversion into a mosque. Of course, if he really wanted to show his respect for the freedom of religion in a big way, he could give it back to the Christian community for use as a cathedral, with an apology for 450 years of persecution of the Christians under Ottoman and then secular Turkish rule.
It is, of course, virtually inconceivable that he would do that. I only suggest it to cast his hypocrisy in sharp relief. This is a man who has systematically pursued policies to reduce and ultimately destroy the Christian presence in his country, depending on the ignorance and indifference of the outside world regarding the persecution of Christians in Turkey in order to lecture Trump about the freedom of religion. Erdogan could himself benefit from a few honest lectures about what the freedom of religion actually means.
“Turkey: Erdogan challenges US freedom of worship,” by Jaber Ali, Middle East Confidential, June 2, 2017:
President Erdogan has questioned Trump’s administration claim of respecting the freedom of religion during an Iftar dinner in Ankara.
In a message directed at Washington during his address, the Turkish president raised concerns about Trump administration’s decision to not host an Iftar-dinner as part of events marking the Muslim Holy month of Ramadan.
Upholding such a decision will be discriminatory, Erdogan said as he reminded the U.S. of their claimed promotion of freedom of worship. “Did you not say you did not oppose freedom of religion?” he asked….
A concrete decision is yet to be made but President Erdogan has signaled that failing to host a dinner could lead “views on the United States to change.” He didn’t go into details on how the relationship between them will be affected.
Turkey has often highlighted that its ties with the U.S. would be affected due to its national security concerns that is, it claims, being jeopardized by individuals and groups resident in the US or in the Middle East. “We know what those who smile at our face do in our back” Erdogan stated as he raised the cases of Reza Zarrab, a Turkish-Iranian man who faces trial in the U.S. on allegations of busting sanctions against Iran, and Fethullah Gulen, accused of pioneering the failed 2015 coup plot. The latest arming of the Kurdish fighters in Syria was also a cause of alarm for the authorities in Anakra.
“From now on, everything will be reciprocal,” Erdogan warned. Washington has not yet reacted to his address.
Moses says
Another muzzie is not happy infidels are not submitting to the false moon god ALLAH!!!!
Mike C says
I believe the 1st amendment states that Congress shall made no law affecting the free exercise of religion;
it does not state that Congress should make any law promoting a particular religion.
Donald R Laster Jr says
Amendment 1 prohibits the creation of a “Church of the United States” and the worship of gods, but it does not apply to Islam. Islam is not a religion but a theocracy. And it prohibits it under Article 6 since Islam is a foreign State with its own laws (Shar’iah). The use of all foreign law is prohibits in the US.
Brian Hoff says
Islam is than religion protected by the constitution it is you far rightwing christian conservative causeing all the hated in america by demonize Islam.
Donald R Laster Jr says
The repeating of the lie that Islam is a religion. Islam is a theocracy – a government with its law (Shar’iah) given by its god. No one is prohibiting people from worshiping Hubal (Baal) the moon god. I would recommend you get a Qur’an (ISBN 978-0-913321-01-0) and read it and learn what Islam actually is and its teachings. Islamic law is prohibited in the US by Article 6 of the US Constitution. And Amendment 1 does not protect murders and deviant behaviors, nor does it protect foreign invaders using the guise of religion to invade. Telling the truth about an issue is something “Progressives”, “Leftist”, and Islamics don’t like. Learn about the Islamic practices of “Taquiyya” and “Kitman”. Learn about the history of Islam and what it did to North Africa, its invasion of Europe in the 700s, its occupation of Spain. Then review the real history of what is now called Turkey as well as the Armenian genocide of the native people of Turkey. The take the time to learn about the invasion of India by the Islamics. In other words open your eyes and learn the facts and history of the theocracy created by Mohammad. Islam is not a religion – it is a government with its civil laws given by its god – in this case the chief god of the Arab pantheon of gods – the moon god Hubal.
trumptblast says
A temple of the Moon-god has been excavated in Ur by Sir Leonard Woolley. He dug up many examples of moon worship in Ur and these are displayed in the British Museum to this day. Harran was likewise noted for its devotion to the Moon-god. In the 1950’s a major temple to the Moon-god was excavated at Hazer in Palestine. Two idols of the Moon god were found. Each was a stature of a man sitting upon a throne with a crescent moon carved on his chest. The accompanying inscriptions make it clear that these were idols of the Moon-god. Several smaller statues were also found which were identified by their inscriptions as the “daughters” of the Moon-god. What about Arabia? As pointed out by Prof. Coon, “Muslims are notoriously loath to preserve traditions of earlier paganism and like to garble what pre-Islamic history they permit to survive in anachronistic terms.”
During the nineteenth century, Amaud, Halevy and Glaser went to Southern Arabia and dug up thousands of Sabean, Minaean, and Qatabanian inscriptions which were subsequently translated. In the 1940’s, the archeologists G. Caton Thompson and Carleton S. Coon made some amazing discoveries in Arabia. During the 1950’s, Wendell Phillips, W.F. Albright, Richard Bower and others excavated sites at Qataban, Timna, and Marib (the ancient capital of Sheba). Thousands of inscriptions from walls and rocks in Northern Arabia have also been collected. Reliefs and votive bowls used in worship of the “daughters of Allah” have also been discovered. The three daughters, al-Lat, al-Uzza and Manat are sometimes depicted together with Allah the Moon-god represented by a crescent moon above them. The archeological evidence demonstrates that the dominant religion of Arabia was the cult of the Moon-god.
Sam Boulis says
What a hypocrite, what freedom of religion, he burnt Greek Orthodox monasteris, took over many churches and he is going to make Agia Sofia a mosque, a real nutcase!
Donald R Laster Jr says
The word “ALLAH” properly translated is “THE GOD”. Remember, the name of the god of Islam is Hubal and historically is also called Baal. When referencing the god of the Islamic theocracy the proper name should be used.
trumptblast says
allah is a moon god as well compared to al-lah or EL lah a names used for ( EL ) God as EL shadia
Donald R Laster Jr says
The word “allah” is a contraction of “al” and “ilah” from what I have read (or “il” and “ilah”). And it gets run together to produce “allah”. Its use and meaning depend upon the speaker and context. The word means “the god”. It is not a name. Islamic using the word are referencing the god Hubal/Baal.
James Snapp, Jr. says
What is he smoking?! Trump is not limiting anyone’s freedom of religion. He is exercising his own freedom to be honest, and to decline to fake being Muslim.
Westman says
The man who would be Caliph is speaking for True Islam. Whatever you gave in the past, without compulsion , it demands for the future.
Freedom of religion is not an entitlement to sponge off nations or have special recognition. When is the Amish and Hindu dinners?
What did he expect? A personal Ramadan dinner at the White House each evening? Hmmm….does Turkey have a religious despot in the making?
gravenimage says
Westman wrote:
The man who would be Caliph is speaking for True Islam. Whatever you gave in the past, without compulsion , it demands for the future.
…………………
Very true, Westman. Islam always demands taking more ground.
J_not_a says
Yeah, well tell er-dog, if he’s so concerned about displaying “freedom of religion, why doesn’t his government ever throw an Easter Sunday dinner? I mean mutual religious reciprocity, equality and respect and all that right, er-dog?
StacyGirl says
I said the same. Or a Christmas dinner as our govt observes it as a national holiday.
carol says
This “religion” is full of killers and killer-supporters. It would be blatant hypocritical capitulation/pragmatism to pretend we truly respect it. Surely Erdogan can appreciate our sensibilities and not draw attention to the matter.
carol says
These bastards really want to see the world eat crow. While they jack up their crazy Ramadan kill-fests they demand acknowledgment during these same “festivities”. Sick as can possibly be.
ChristianInDeed says
“…does Turkey have a religious despot in the making?” NO, not in the making, he has always been this way, his goals have not changed, they are now speeding up as the West falls more and more to Islam.
Jace Anderson says
Being President of the U.S.A. should tell Erdogan that he doesn’t believe in the Ramadan Bombathons going on against civilians worldwide. It’s not like he’s apologist Barack Hussein Obama.
Carolyne says
Mr.Erdogan should know that we have freedom FROM religion, too. I am free of Islam and free to call it what it is: A vicious, cruel political-economic system which dictates every thought, word and deed of its victims. It’s victims being those who believe it.
Dawn says
Stand your ground President Trump ! Don’t let them push you around
WPM says
President Trump should send him one of those mail order southern smoked hams and a basket of Italian smoke cured pork sausages. Maybe a case of wine mine too that should calm him down. May a subscribition to Catholic magazine ,and some newspapers publish in Israel.
Northern Virginiastan says
But not Ha’aretz, which is a liberal rag.
abad says
Now that would make a perfect Ramadan gift for Erdogan. LOL
J_not_a says
What, and waste all that good stuff on that piece of crap er-dog? Hell no, if you’re gonna send him that, make sure it’s five years’ expired at least.
dumbledoresarmy says
Don’t write those remarks here!
Tweet them to President Trump!
And every other American jihadwatcher should do the same.
There should be NO ‘Iftar’ at the White House.
NONE.
NO appeasement of bullies and thugs.
Richard Paulsen says
Why is Christianity so weak regarding islam? Christianity ought to grow stronger. Can not afford going on loosing.
Reciprocal? Hair raising audacity. Having learned that the number of mosques in U.S.A. having increased from 1,209-3,186 2000-2015.
In 2013 there were 82.693 mosques in Turkey. Between the years 2003-2013 3,113 more being built in Turkey.
In the area of Istanbul there are 3,113 mosques. Mosques in Turkey having grewn by some 7,324.
While there are only some 46 churches in Turkey and the number decreasing.
More and more mosques being built worldwide. In Sweden all the time new mosques being built. Media saying nothing. The biggest church in Scandinavia opened a few days ago in Malmö in southern Sweden close to Denmark.. Saudi Arabia and Qatar paying and seemingly deciding without any protests.
Such an audacity.
https://broom01.revolvy.com/topic/List%20of%20mosques%20in%20Turkey&item_type=topic
Kay says
Are you saying that the biggest church in Sweden was made into a mosque?
Richard Paulsen says
Thank you. What a mistake. Blaming myself. Should be the biggest mosque in Scandinavia.
Thank you for your kind remark. Very kind of you.
Malcolm (South Afric) says
@ Richard Paulsen
The early Church was made up of pagans who were delighted to be called Christian after conversion and were of the caliber of dying, for their new found faith. .
At the moment we have pagans who call themselves Christians who have bought into secular ideology such as progressive, liberal, socialist, while still maintain their Christian identity.
Westman says
This seems eerily familiar:
1 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
2 For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
3 Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
4 Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
5 Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
6 For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
7 Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
That seems to sum up today’s world in Europe. Empty churches being converted into mosques while the natives are in a child-poor hedonism that worries more about climate change than nation-change. Is there a question about which will be first to end the subsidized party?
JMB says
# Malcolm (And others)
It is Sunday morning here in Sydney Australia. The sporting arenas will be full, the shopping malls will be crowded and you will wait for a table at all the sidewalk cafes. The churches will be almost empty. The Muslims will also be eyeing off all struggling churches in order to buy them and convert them into mosques. All this is part of the reason why Islam is able to take over our western nations without a shot being fired.
Northern Virginiastan says
Remember, Erdogan’s goons attacked protesters outside the Turkish ambassador’s residence.
Also, take a look at the Diyanet Center, which serves the Turkish Muslim Community, https://diyanetamerica.org/. Erdogan presided over the ribbon cutting; Nihad Awad was at his side.
Richard Paulsen says
How come they are being called refugees? Will never understand why they are being allowed residence permit at all. Not respecting others. Against all civilized believes and ideals.
Cretius says
You cannot accommodate non-believers and be considered a true Muslim. Nor can a Muslim’s word to a non-believer have any weight as the Koran encourages lies and deceit to further the goals of Islam.
gravenimage says
Thanks for the stats, Richard. I knew that you were referring to the mega-Mosque in Sweden:
“Qatari Government Opens Mega-Mosque in Malmö, Sweden”
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/05/05/qatari-government-opens-scandinavias-biggest-mosque-malmo-sweden/
Kay says
Thanks for the facts about the state of religious freedom n Turkey, Robert.
(I’m sure to be surrounded by people who are so quick to be antiTrump that if they hear about this at all, they will ridiculously side with Erdogan.)
Ric Escajeda says
Actually the first dinner was kinda hilarious under Madison. Look it up.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Trump should note that Ramadan celebrates the revelation of the Holy Ko-Ran to the Holy Prophet. He should explain his decision to not host a Ramadan dinner is because the book calls for destruction of all Infidels, including over 99% of Americans. No reason to honor that.
Yeah yeah, I’m dreaming. I know. But it drives me crazy how the contents of the Holy Ko-Ran (and thereby, the contents of Moslems themselves) is somehow kept out of the public consciousness.
Jan III Sobieski says
Right on!
Leonidas says
Subject: HOW ISLAM WILL COLLAPSE
Islam is a violent ,totalitarian ,POLITICAL IDEOLOGY of Arab male supremacism ( Islamofascism > 80%) ,DISGUISED AS A RELIGION (< 20% , a distorted heresy of judaism) ,that fights by jihad and soft jihad to conquer the world and impose the barbaric ,misogynistic Sharia Law on the planet ,as mandated in the koran by Muhammad 14 centuries ago.
Fellow Humans!
Islamic jihad strikes and kills us EVERYWHERE to terrorize us into submission .
Its high time ,that all of us Kafir- infidels, threatened by islamic terror, unite and do the following to eradicate the terror and tyranny of Islamofascism by demanding:
1-No indoctrination anywhere in the world in the violent Medina part of the Koran, Sira, Hadith,the pact of Omar or the Reliance of the Muslim Traveler.
2- Ban islamic Sharia law everywhere to liberate the muslim women from slavery imposed on them by the koran.No Burkas,no clitorectomies,no ramadan fast, no Eid feast animals slaughter,no pork prohibition, no payments to imams to pray upon halal meat,no dog killing,no gender segregation, no women inequality,no blasphemy laws, no killing of apostates ,blasphemers,adulterers by stoning , or hypocrites!No reverence ,but daily ridicule and contempt to Muhammad ,who according to eyewitnesses in Sira and Hadith was a pedophile( wife Aisha was 9 years old) murderer,bandit ,liar, rapist and slave trader!No five prayers per day cursing the infidels! Google: translation of islamic prayer.Isolate the countries ,that implement islamic sharia law by denying all trade with them.
3- Ban muslim immigrants the way communists were banned before 1989.Demand all muslim immigrants to denounce barbaric Islam before migrating to another country ,as Islam is incompatible with our values, freedom of speech and artistic expression, GENDER EQUALITY,freedom of religion, tolerance, Constitution and Democracy.
4- Close down all mosques everywhere to cleanse the minds of people from the evil commandments of islam's " Holy" books ,medina part of the koran, Sira and Hadith, as President Sisi of Egypt asked the Egyptian mullahs to do.The muslims are commanded by the koran to consider women dumb and inferior to males, wives to be beaten by their husbands for disobedience ,that all women are destined to go to Hell and muslims must never be friends with Jews, Christians ,Kafirs- infidels ,as they may tempt them to stray from the right path.Instead to ask them to become muslims and ,if they refuse ,to kill them or force them to pay the Jizya dhimmie submission tax in humiliation.Therefore, we must ban the koran as a hate book!
5-Arm all policemen ,so they can effectively protect themselves and the people from the jihadists.
6-Reinstate the death penalty as appropriate punishment and deterrent for the jihadists.
7- Allow no nuclear weapons to the jihadist supporting regime of Iran.
8- Deport all muslims ,that break the law or are on watch terror lists to prevent jihadist attacks
When we implement the above, we will see millions of muslims ,especially women, will abandon islam around the world ,islam will collapse and we will be free from jihadist terror.Peace and Good Will will return to Earth after 1400 years of expanding islamofascism!With the savings from today's exorbitant jihad security costs we can fight diseases,hunger,pollution,promote education,green energy around the world and fund Mars colonization after 2020!
We defeated and eliminated totalitarian Nazism, Shintoism with a very bloody WWII,and Communism by isolating it in the 20th century and now we must unite to contain and eradicate the evil and tyranny of Islamofascism ,for Humanity to survive and thrive!
Jace Anderson says
Well, I guess there is nothing else to say. KUDOS!
pnr says
MohaMADanism, i.e., Islam, is Not a religion.
pnr
Halal Bacon says
the more power this POS grabs, the more insane he becomes, it actually is starting to look like a tight race between him and Ping Pong Ding Dong over in North Korea
no_one says
He could talk freedom of religion when he returns Hagia Sophia to Christians and tears down the ugly minarets around it. It should be the seat of the ecumenical patriarch. Not hosting iftar doesn’t stop muzzies in the US from practicing.
TR says
Time once again for the Zaporozhian Cossacks to prepare another letter to the Sultan of Turkey. Check it out the describe Erdogan in the best accuracy to date.
Wellington says
Rich, so rich, considering Islam’s support for religious freedom. This religion is so disgusting, a blight on the human race and most definitely a mortal threat to liberty, which itself denies yet it will parasitically use the liberty created by others to advance itself all the while harboring the intention of ending it.
carol says
They just want to demoralize the opposition like the excuses for humans that they are.
John A. Marre says
Trump doesn’t want to have a dinner to honor a month in which fanatical fundamentalists murder innocents.
dumbledoresarmy says
Precisely.
Now, communicate with President Trump and tell him that. Tell him that traditionally Ramadan is “the month of Jihad” and that sensible Infidels – especially sensible Infidel *rulers* – should have nothing to do with it.
carol says
Trump’s not Obama and probably already has plans to at least ignore the Islamic nutjob Erdogan.
somehistory says
To not take part in something does not mean it is restricted…and this idiot knows it
He’s an idiot because he worships a fake god, but he knows enough to understand that Trump and the U.S. are not restricting moslums from having their evil dinner in celebration of their evil little monster nobody of the desert and his evil writings. Celebrating the cult of rapists, thieves and murderers and encouraging the same behavior in everyone attending..
And he is aware that his operatives are busy in this country, freely operating and expanding their territory for his satanic cult.
Every non worshipper of satan should be aware that moslums don’t deal fairly They don’t think anyone else on earth has any right to choose whether or not to even have a religion,much less choose Whom to worship and how. They see themselves as the only people deserving of life and they will use every weapon and tool to make sure what they want takes place. Even to using laws they don’t abide to get their evil way.
gravenimage says
Great post, Somehistory.
somehistory says
Thanks, g,:)
Dennis says
Dont forget his persecution of the Alevis
Guest says
Trump’s not a Muslim he doesn’t have to do anything
Cretius says
Oh, did I miss Ergodan’s announcement of his Good Friday dinner?
Katnis says
Right. And since when is the White House obligated to throw a Ramadan dinner party? That the LAST thing I want my tax dollars spent on. Good for Trump for standing his ground.
no_one says
Good Friday is a day of strict lent. Many people fast. Even if they don’t fast the evening service lasts very long and many skip dinner.
traci94 says
This guy always looks pissed off!
Richard says
We’ll host another Iftar dinner when the Turkish, Saudi and Iranian governments host an Easter feast and a Passover Seder.
carol says
No, we really shouldn’t – despite what they do. They are not worthy of the world stage.
Allan Mandrowski says
Funny, coming from a dictator who discriminates and oppresses all minorities who aren’t muslim.
Sam says
Somebody ought to tell this muslim rat that America is a Christian Country! Yes everybody is aloud to practice whichever religion suits them, but AMERICA IS A CHRISTIAN COUNTRY, simple! Europe is finished and that upsets me to say considering both sides of my family fought wars for there European countries for generations, but that is the truth! I’m convinced the powers that be want a civil war! You have turkey flexing there muscle and threatening Europe and America constantly, you look at Cyprus, you look at Bosnia, you look at Kosovo declaring independence, you look at FYROM in the Balkans which the party is forming a coalition with Albanian parties who want to make Albanian an official language! You look at the countless boats of men coming from Libya to Italy.. they are and to some degree taking over Europe! Is it to late? Some times I think it is! DEATH TO THE EU!
Carolyne says
I am a “Roastbeefian” and I demand a roast beef dinner in the White House. My religious rights are being insulted.
gravenimage says
Erdogan says Trump’s not holding Ramadan dinner casts doubt on U.S. support for freedom of religion
………………………………..
The idea that you have to throw Muslims a presidential dinner or else they do not have freedom of religion is ridiculous. I’m not sure they have ever had a meatless meal at the White House, but this does not mean that vegetarians do not have equal rights in the United States.
More:
“From now on, everything will be reciprocal,” Erdogan warned. Washington has not yet reacted to his address.
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When has *anything* ever been reciprocal in Turkey? It’s not as though Erdogan is about to throw an Easter dinner for his Christian citizens. In fact, he has never even acknowledged the Armenian Genocide.
What a hypocritical load of rot.
Wellington says
Well said, gravenimage. You know, I don’t want ANY Muslim preaching to me about freedom.
gravenimage says
Wellington, cynical Muslims just want to use our virtues for their own vile ends.
Wellington says
Agreed, gravenimage, about cynical Muslims but even non-cynical Muslims, you know, the so-called moderate Muslim who is pretty damn ignorant of his own religion (as are so many from other religions) and a Muslim chiefly because he was born into his faith, etc., is also culpable, also a problem, because such a Muslim will sit idly by while those “cynical Muslims” do all they can to destroy liberty in the name of their extraordinarily warped religion. Indeed, such lazy Muslims give cover to Islam.
In short, ALL Muslims are a threat to freedom, one way or another. No exceptions. Not one damn one.
no_one says
Erdogan banned Christmas in a German language school in Istanbul last year.
Mockingjay says
Oh yeah that’s right – good one, no one!
gravenimage says
Yes–Christians are *still* threatened and oppressed in Turkey.
somehistory says
g,
Someone should clue him in that reciprocal is a road that goes both ways….what he has done against those who may not agree with this tyrant could be done to those with whom he agrees.
He doesn’t really want reciprocal…he wants double standards applied…he’s wicked and evil and everyone else is nice to him and his.
carol says
He just wants to send a message to his buddies that he can rub our noses in Islam’s Ramadan s@*t! – but it’s not over till its over.
gravenimage says
As the Muslim Brotherhood said, that “bridge” only goes in one direction–Muslims never want to reciprocate.
Mockingjay says
– I think what Erdogan is spouting is more than just hypocritical rot. I honestly think Erdogan is looking to go to war.
– Just listen to him. He’s talking like he already IS at war. It’s full on aggressive language, everytime.
Remember all the filth that came out of him before and after the recent referendum?
– I don’t deem it unlikely that in a few years time he will want to invade Europe with his truly GIANT turkish army – that he already, so coveniently, had purged of any dissenting elements after the #fakecoup – exactly like Hitler invaded Poland, when no one thought he would.
– I think he wants to achieve what the ottomans never did and conquer Europe.
And not just by demographics – by actual WAR.
I think he’s the second Hitler and he might just begin the third world war.
Donald R Laster Jr says
Islamics are at war with everyone who is not Islamics. It is part of the Islamic theocracy and the war has been going on for 1400 years.
John A. Marreq says
Turkey is not our friend. Fooling yourself by thinking that it is, is stupid. It’s Muslim, and therefore cannot ever do anything beneficial to anyone but Muslims.
Ace-of-Clubs says
Erdogan is a nasty tyrant, it was a shame that the military coup in Turkey failed. The EU must never allow Turkey to join. The Turkish genocide against the Armenians between the late 1890s and early 1920s cost well over a million lives. It’s only just over 100 years ago, so we cannot ever trust Muslim Turks.
billybob says
Trump should tell him he will hold an Iftar dinner at the Whitehouse when Erdogan holds Christmas dinner at the Turkish parliament.
GY says
The most important thing to realize is that Islam is a POLITICAL MOVEMENT Disguised as a religion. It’s teaching, or put another way, it’s position manifesto is in exact contradiction to western values and culture. Islam is an intolerant fascist movement. That’s it and the truth of it.
Donald R Laster Jr says
Having a “Ramadan dinner” would be the same as having a “NAZI dinner”. Islam is a political system not a religion and it is dedicated to imposing itself on all countries. Erdogan is simply an Islamic terrorist. And it is obvious when one understand what Islam teaches.
Voytek Gagalka says
Erdogan forgot that Trump is not a Muslim and thus he doesn’t have to hold any “Ramadan dinner.” Conversely, by holding that dinner it would violate Establishment Clause of the Constitution and freedom of all those who do not share values of that said “religion.”
Jack Holan says
Erdogan it may come as a shock, Freedom of Teligion has Zero to do with festivities at the White Housr. The Principle is enshrined in Our Bill of Rigjts that cannot be changed by any President unlike Autocrats like you.
Erdogan did you invite the Cief Rabbi,of Turkey & the Chief Rabbi of Istanbul, and their families to share with you and the Grand Mufti and your families the Jewish Passover Seder? If you didn’t you know that would mean you’re a hypocrite!
mortimer says
Supremacism is normative Islam, rather than an aberration.
Erdogan is crazy and a SUPREMACIST. How far will he take his country…to self destruction? And disastrous war seems inevitable with Erdogan in power.
Matthieu Baudin says
Erdogan is a new ‘Euro/Asian’ tyrant and with any luck he won’t team up with another regional despot sharing the ‘Euro/Asian’ tag.
Tom says
Ah Erdogan, that defender of human rights and advocate of peaceful coexistance (NOT !!!)
“The mosques are our barracks, the domes our helmets, the minorets our bayonets and the faithful our soldiers….” Tayyip Erdogan 1998.
Lydia says
I’m just curious…
how many Christian or Jewish celebrations has his government sponsored –
in the name of ‘religious freedom’???
I’ll be willing to bet that the number is….. zero.