More of the global outbreak of mental illness. How long will French authorities, and authorities all over the West, continue to delude themselves, and continue to be allowed to do so by their constituents?
“Suspect in brutal murder of French-Jewish woman may not be tried,” Times of Israel, June 2, 2017 (thanks to the Geller Report):
A Muslim man suspected in the violent murder of an elderly French-Jewish woman in Paris in early April may not face murder charges, as claims that he was not in his right mind when he committed the act are being considered.
The suspect has been hospitalized for psychiatric evaluation since his arrest for the murder of Sarah Halimi, 66, on April 4. His name has not been released but he is known to be a 27-year-old African Muslim and a neighbor of the victim.
Halimi was beaten severely before the suspect pushed her to her death out of the window of her apartment on Vaucouleurs Street in the heavily Muslim 11th district of Paris, considered a crime-ridden area.
His lawyer, Thomas Bidnic, told AFP on Wednesday that there was a strong chance he would not be held “criminally responsible” for the murder. The lawyer based this assessment on the medical advice of the suspect’s examiners.
Judicial experts will now need to determine whether the insanity claims are valid.
The case has riled the Jewish community in France, with some members angry at the police for how it handled the attack and for treating the murder as a possible act of insanity. Community members say it was a hate crime and an act of murder with anti-Semitism and torture as aggravating circumstances. Halimi’s family has demanded it be considered a terror attack.
Halimi’s family and lawyers have also taken on the press for remaining largely silent on the matter, not reporting the details and appearing to treat it as another criminal murder until just recently.
In a press conference last week, a lawyer of the victim’s family revealed the tragic details of her death and the moments leading up to the murder, suggesting the suspect may have undergone radicalization while in prison for drug-related crimes and while attending a salafist mosque nearby when on probation.
The Halimi family lawyer, Jean-Alexandre Buchinger, recounted that the attack began at 4:25 a.m. on the morning of April 4 when the suspect, who lives with his family in a building neighboring Halimi’s, forced his way into her apartment through the residence of his neighbors, a family originally from Mali.
The suspect knocked on their door and forced his way in, appearing so aggressive and agitated and murmuring Koranic verses, that they all locked themselves in a bedroom and called the police. The suspect made his way to Halimi’s apartment through their balcony.
“He surprised her in her sleep, he beat her with fists. Her living room was full of blood, just to inform you how hard the blows were,” said Buchinger at the press conference on May 22.
The suspect shouted “Allahu Akbar” and recited Quranic verses while assaulting Halimi, and trying to strangle her, the lawyer said, adding that the suspect also yelled at Halimi to “shut her mouth” and called her a “sheitan” [devil or satan in Arabic].
Police arrived just 3 minutes after the call, but made their way to the wrong building at first. Meanwhile, another neighbor placed a call to police at 4:45 a.m. to report the beating of Halimi. More officers arrived and congregated in the apartment of the Malian family next door, afraid they were facing a terror attack and waiting for the anti-terror squad. By the time the special unit arrived, around 5:00 a.m., Halimi had been killed.
The suspect returned to the apartment of the Malian family and was arrested there without resistance at 5:35 a.m., according to the report.
A homicide investigation was opened with police on April 14, without the anti-Semitism aspect. A judicial source told AFP that “it has not yet been established that the suspect knew the victim’s religion.”
That remark contradicts earlier reports by relatives of Halimi who said that she had previously experienced anti-Semitic harassment by the suspect and a relative of his.
A second lawyer for the family said the fact that the suspect did not assault any other neighbors during the attack and made his way directly “to the only Jewish woman in the building, breaking into an apartment to access hers, shows premeditation.”
“He has the profile of a radicalized Islamist; the psychiatry [behind it] is secondary,” said a lawyer of Halimi’s sister, Gilles-William Goldnadel.
There were conflicting reports on whether the suspect’s family acknowledged any radicalization, but Bidnic said they “perfectly understand the gravity” of what he has been accused of.
The Halimi family lawyers also criticized police handling of the attack, questioning why it took an hour and 10 minutes to apprehend the suspect, and suggesting a nation and police force on edge since a series of deadly Islamist attacks in recent years….
Hindu American says
Not in his right mind?!! Wake me up when the muslims who commit murder are in their right mind. Ted Bundy should have used that line of defense. He probably would have walked in France. Sheeeesh!! What a travesty of justice!!
Ace-of-Clubs says
An appalling crime. This poor Jewish lady was not even safe in her own home.
In my ideal world, the Muslim culprit would be executed by firing squad. Of course that won’t happen. So
it would have to be life imprisonment with no parole. I hope this lady’s family get the justice they deserve. Jews in France and all over europe are increasingly afraid and scared to go out, many thousands have fled the continent.
Michael says
In my ideal world the Muslim culprit would be burned at the stake.
kuriakose says
Or beheaded.
Dennis says
Yes,you are right. We should deal with muslim murderers according to there own law. If a muslim kills a muslim…that should be the punishment. Or an eye for an eye…that would make the muslim community sit up and take note. The killer was deranged? Well he must have studied islam!
gravenimage says
But there is no Islamic penalty for murdering Infidels–especially a “filthy Jew”.
John A. Marre says
The devout practice of Islam is indistinguishable from insanity.
mgoldberg says
So if… he’s crazy and that helped him to welcome his Jihadi status, then put him in the electric chair and tell him it’s the best roller coaster he’s ever been on. Strap him in and tell him there’s no charge for the ride.
Buhbyejihadi
gravenimage says
France: Muslim who screamed “Allahu akbar” while murdering Jewish woman may not be tried, “not in right mind”
……………………..
Just sickening–the Jihadist *clearly* targeted this poor woman. He went through the apartment of his fellow Muslims to do so.
This is savage, but also *very organized*. No “mental illness” here.
Michael Copeland says
He was sufficiently in his “right mind” to carry out those admonitions in the Koran and Hadith, as expressed in the mosque, to kill Jews, and “spill their blood”. “Killing Jews is worship that brings us closer to Allah”, Hamas explains. He remembered that, all right.
gravenimage says
All true, Michael.
Guy Macher says
The French turned Le Pen aside. Merkel is more popular than other leaders in Germany. I think the real mental illness is in western Europeans.
CogitoErgoSum says
This man may have broken the laws of France against trespassing, assault, battery and murder but did he break any law or commit any crime or sin according to the religion of Islam?
The victim was an infidel, (the worst kind of infidel, a Jew). Was she paying the Jizya? If she had been offered the opportunity to become a Muslim and had refused to convert, she was supposed to have been paying the Jizya for “protection.”
According to Islam, by right the land and the homes of infidels actually belong to Muslims and only those granted the privilege of paying the Jizya may keep their lives. According to Islam, if this woman had wanted to remain living as a Jew she should have been paying the Jizya in compensation for living on land rightfully belonging to Muslims (that is, anywhere and everywhere). Would non-payment of the Jizya not constitute a crime punishable by death according to the rules of Islam? The one things lacking was for someone to be willing to enforce the law of Allah.
Oh yes, the murdered woman may have been a model citizen according to the laws of France but according to the laws of Islam she was actually the criminal and her property was not hers and her home was not hers. Under the laws of Allah her life was forfeit for not paying the Jizya, Allah’s rules override the laws of man.
So let me see …. in the mind of the killer, listening to Allah is the most important thing in life. Allah does not love unbelievers but Allah does love those who rid the world of anyone who does not respect and follow the laws of Allah. Muslims are supposed to fight until all those who are not Muslims pay the Jizya. In the mind of the killer, he would gain the love of Allah by obeying Allah and by doing what he did. Crazy? Okay … now make it perfectly clear to me ……. at what point in this case does the man’s insanity first begin?
Hector Archytas says
She was paying the Jizya through teh expensive welfare cost.
Darryl Kerney says
by that definition every jihadist is “not in his right mind”,
so it would seem that we need a lot more insane asylums than prisons……
or, more sensibly, capital punishment for terrorist murderers.
WPM says
Every Islamic who follows allah rules and regulations is sh*t house crazy the West should know that by now!
Irene Brekelmans says
Guy, I agree with you, but it are not only the west europeans, it is the same all over the world, and it is living in a zombie madhouse.
Mrs Merkel when you invite more refugees into Europe, keep them in insne Germany and do not divide them in our other countries, you invited them, keep them and you, the EU, you do’t deserve to sit inyour expensive chairs, you all have not protected your citizens, you are not worth anything and you Germans should be ashamed, so much ashamed, you are crucifying the Jews again, by lettinge all murderers go.
You and all the other countries don’t keep to your own laws. You are not worthy and don’t call yourselves Christians any more, you don’t deserve that name any more. Don’t lie to yourselves that you are the “peaceful people” You are the cowards.
marina says
Macron’s France!!
Wellington says
Proposition: No one who is a Muslim, even Muslim children, are possessed of a “right mind.” Every Muslim is possessed of a “wrong mind,” only the degree of such being a variable. Not a single exception here I would contend.
Now, if the proposition above is a valid one, which I certainly think it is because otherwise I would not have proposed it, this does not mean that Muslims should be exculpated via a mental illness excuse for engaging in all the control-freak barbarity their hideous religion instructs them to do. No, one can be guilty of felonies even though morally challenged, high moral intelligence being a very important feature of a truly whole and healthy human being. Islam works against such intelligence. So did Nazism. So does Marxism. So does anarchism. And so on.
But the dearth here of this intelligence should never add up to guiltlessness where heinous actions are involved——-not with Nazis or Marxists or anarchists or KKK members or, yes indeed, Muslims.
utis says
If the court buys that excuse, they’re not in their right mind. A common affliction in European governments.
There are crazy people who kill and crazy people who don’t kill. If they can’t control their urge to kill, they need to be kept out of other people’s way: either the hard way, or by locking them up till they’re too decrepit to kill. No one’s right to roam free overrides another’s right to life.
P.S. French Jews, come to the U.S. We can’t guarantee your safety, because we have our own crowd of free-range, homicidal loons, but you’ll probably have a better chance here than there.
Rolf Wittwer says
Millions of Muslims obviously are 24h/day not in their right mind. But there are not enough psychiatrists to treat them.
It’s their normal way of life. Result and connected to blind fanatism and incest.
During Ramadan it’s even worse, but not new.
Westman says
I had no idea that there is a “right mind” for murdering Jewish people. It must be a special state of mind only available at the mosque on Fridays.
And the French “chicken” police, little more than a political arm of the elite, who won’t stop terrorists until it’s safe for them, make our firefighters of 9/11 look like angels of mercy.
Donald R Laster Jr says
This is what “Socialism” has done to the world. Making excuses for people who know what they are doing. Using their logic every non-Islamic rapist and pedophile should have their behavior excused because they are not in the right mind. Just because Islam says it is okay to murder people does not make it correct or excuse the murderer.
Beagle says
Maybe ten years ago at JW I commented that Muslims have a built-in insanity defense because their right is our wrong.
But I really didn’t think it would become a serious way for the authorities to avoid confronting jihad. I mean, how evil and deceitful can our governments, police, and mental health ‘professionals’ really be? Ah, very, it turns out.
Johan Elzinga says
That’s right, he should not be tried. He should be executed on the spot, without further trial, with a bullet between his eyes. That way, he will never do it again and society will not have to pay any money for his worthless life.
jim conch says
Nope, not with a bullet between the eyes, that is too quick and easy. Remember an eye for an, which means not more than an eye foe an eye. Therefore, if he hit her 20 times, he should be hit 19, if he pushed her from the 20th floor, push him from the 19th floor. The result would be the same.
Mancunian Candidate says
All the people here who are talking about “revenge” or “eye for an eye” justice are misguided.
It’s not about making the perpetrator suffer. This has no benefit. They should be tried, and if found guilty executed in accordance with the law. It’s about removing that particular danger from society.
All religions are equally idiotic and should be considered irrelevant. If you break into the house of a christian, Jew, Moslem, Hindu, Taoist or otherwise and viscously murder them you’ve given up your right to live in a civilized society regardless of your motivations.
Baying for their blood is not helping anyone. It’s not about that. It IS about removing the risk they pose and that needs to be done without “moral” considerations.
Donald R Laster Jr says
You need to learn the difference between Islam, which is a theocracy, and religions. Islam teaches that killing and engaging in all sorts of depravities is acceptable behavior – especially when directed at the non-Islamic and to advance Islam. The only way to remove the danger of Islam is to remove its followers.
Mancunian Candidate says
If you ascribe the workings of the world to mythical sky man it doesn’t matter what you call it. If you kill, or do anything in the name of or at the behest of that mythical sky man’s words then you are an idiot.
Idiots come in more than 57 varieties. Islamic one are just the idiots of the day. I stand by my statement that all religions (and for hair splittings sake theocracies too) are as stupid as each other and anyone who takes their teachings literally is a fool desperate for something to fill a hole in themselves.
We don’t need to halt the advance of Islam, we need to advance science and reason ahead of it and do our best to live OUR lives.
Donald R Laster Jr says
Ignoring what Islam promotes does not help real science. And pretending that other religions are the same as Islam is stupid. As it pretending science is not effected by people’s beliefs. Just look at the claims of “evolutionist”. They ignore all of sorts of real science since their theory has no foundation in science. It operates on assumptions and false logic. Even the tests that claim the age of rocks are based upon assumptions that fail the classic double-blind tests.
Mancunian Candidate says
So, a creationist. I have no truck with you. You’re as bad as the flatearthers and a step away from being as bad as the moslems.
All religions are equally as stupid. Whats done in their name differ in stupidity but they’re all as useless and counter to the progression of the human species as each other. Go and deny science some place else, your as useful here as wheels on a boat.