“Concerningly, Butt had earlier attempted to hire a 7.5-tonne lorry that same morning. When he did not provide payment details, the rental did not go ahead. The effects could have been even worse.”
It was all about the payment details. No one would have dared question him about why he wanted the truck. That would have been “Islamophobic.”
“London Bridge: more arrests as police tell how terrorists wanted to use truck,” by Vikram Dodd, Guardian, June 10, 2017:
The three terrorists who struck London Bridge last Saturday tried to hire a 7.5-tonne lorry on the morning of the attack to kill even more people and inflict a bigger atrocity on Britain.
Early on Saturday morning police investigating the attack made raids in east London and arrested two more people on suspicion of terror offences, bringing the number being held to seven. A 27-year-old man was detained at a house in Ilford and a 28-year-old man at a house in Barking.
Five other people were already in custody as detectives and MI5 investigate if anyone assisted the London Bridge terrorists or had knowledge of their plans go run people over and go on a stabbing rampage. Eight people were killed and 48 wounded in the attack.
The van they used was hired by the ringleader, named by police as Khuram Butt. Police believe the intended atrocity was on a similar scale to that in Nice, France, in August 2016 when a truck drove into a crowd and left 86 people dead.
The attempted truck hire failed only by chance, because Butt failed to provide payment details. Instead they hired a Renault van from a firm in Harold Hill, Romford, in east London.
Commander Dean Haydon, of Scotland Yard’s counter-terrorism command, said: “Concerningly, Butt had earlier attempted to hire a 7.5-tonne lorry that same morning. When he did not provide payment details, the rental did not go ahead. The effects could have been even worse.”…
gravenimage says
London jihad massacre “could have been even worse”: jihadis tried to rent 16,500 pound truck
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No matter how horrifying a Jihad terror attack is, Muslims always intended it to be even bloodier. *Ugh*.
Saleem Smith says
Hello graveimage,
Yes! The devout Muslim jihadis want to kill as many infidels as possible to avoid Islamic hell and to acquire the promised 72 virgins in Islamic paradise!
The world-wide rule of Islamic Sharia law would require a lot of dead bodies etc.
We ex-Muslims living with Islam’s formal and informal death penalty for apostasy know that Mohammedanism is an evil pack of lies.
>>>>>
The Sexual Powers of Prophet Muhammad
Many Muslims believe that the prophet Muhammad was a man endowed with super human powers in the realm of sexuality. Muslim males are especially proud of this Islamic tradition and often use it as material for jokes and boasting.
During my days in Islam, I remember a product being sold in an Islamic book store that was designed to give men extra sexual energy. It was a glass jar containing a mixture of pistachio nuts and honey as well as some other ingredients.
The guy working the cash register was grinning from ear to ear trying to make fun while explaining that studly Muhammad had the sex drive of thirty men and used to bed all of his women in one night when the horny little freak got the urge. I just smiled back at the guy and laughed at his stupidity.
Here is an authentic hadith documenting the great sexual prowess of one Muhammad of Arabia:
Bukhari, Volume 1, Book 5, Number 268:
Narrated Qatada:
Anas bin Malik said, “The Prophet used to visit all his wives in a round, during the day and night and they were eleven in number.” I asked Anas, “Had the Prophet the strength for it?” Anas replied, “We used to say that the Prophet was given the strength of thirty (men).” And Sa’id said on the authority of Qatada that Anas had told him about nine wives only (not eleven).
See, Muhammad really was a playboy who scored with the ladies! So what if some of those women were in actuality slaves and concubines, right? It is likely that both Muhammad’s slave and non-slave women would have left that disgusting little pig were it not for fear of losing their lives. After all, he had killed some of their husbands.
Jihadis are blowing themselves up and killing both Muslim and non-Muslim peoples on a daily basis trying to get to “the goodies” waiting in Paradise that “Muhammad promised them”. Those deluded fools think that Mr.Allah up there in 7th heaven is going produce an endless supply of perfect virgins for them.
These programmed robots are trying to kill their way into Paradise so that they can “get busy with all of those willing cuties”. The Qur’an, that hideously evil piece of trash that was Muhammad’s ticket to “the good life”, contains many passages describing the carnal rewards of Islamic heaven.
Here is a small sample of what Muslim males expect to enjoy when they die:
Qur’an, 056.012-039: They shall recline on jeweled couches face to face, and there shall wait on them immortal youths with bowls and ewers and a cup of purest wine (that will neither pain their heads nor take away their reason); with fruit of their own choice and flesh of fowls that they relish. And theirs shall be the dark-eyed houris, chaste as hidden pearls: a guerdon for their deeds… We created the houris and made them virgins, loving companions for those on the right hand…
055.054-059: They shall recline on couches lined with thick brocade, and within reach shall hang the fruits of both gardens. Which of your Lord’s blessing would you deny? Therein are bashful virgins whom neither man nor jinnee will have touched before. Which of your Lord’s blessings would you deny? Virgins as fair as corals and rubies. Which of your Lord’s blessing would you deny?
055.072-075: Dark-eyed virgins, sheltered in their tents (which of your Lord’s blessing would you deny?), whom neither man nor jinnee will have toughed before. Which of your Lord’s blessing would you deny?
Muslim males actually expect 72 virgins each when they die and go to heaven! Muslims believe this nonsense because it is specified in a Hadith contained within the Al-Tirmidhi collection: (volume IV, chapters on The Features of Paradise as described by the Messenger of Allah [Prophet Muhammad], chapter 21, About the Smallest Reward for the People of Paradise, Hadith 2687).
“The Prophet Muhammad was heard saying: ‘The smallest reward for the people of paradise is an abode where there are 80,000 servants and 72 houri, over which stands a dome decorated with pearls, aquamarine, and ruby, as wide as the distance from Al-Jabiyyah [a Damascus suburb] to Sana’a [Yemen]’.”
The sensual pleasures that Muslims expect to experience in Paradise have been described in graphic detail by Egyptian scholar and Islamic theologian, Imam Al-Suyuti (died 1505). He wrote:
“Each time we sleep with a houri we find her virgin. Besides, the penis of the Elected never softens. The erection is eternal; the sensation that you feel each time you make love is utterly delicious and out of this world and were you to experience it in this world you would faint. Each chosen one [ie Muslim] will marry seventy [sic] houris, besides the women he married on earth, and all will have appetizing vaginas.”
Though fear and hatred are the real engine of Islam, sex and other luxuries are a damn close second! No wonder so many Muslims are eager to kill and die and go to heaven!!
Saleem Smith says
Sorry for spelling your name wrong above gravenimage
pnr says
bit of Sivananda never hurt anyone… DIVINE LIFE SOCIETY
pnr
newUser says
Someone killing a child for sensual pleasures is disgusting. They will be surprised to find that prophet Isa is actually Lord and they are worthy of hell.This desire for sensuality comes from the soul and such souls are not allowed in the real heaven.
le mouron rouge says
Interesting, thank you Saleem Smith and thank you for the documentation.
“I think slavery is the next thing to hell. If a person would send another into bondage, he would, it appears to me, be bad enough to send him into hell if he could.”
– Harriet Tubman (1822-1913)
gravenimage says
Thanks for the reply, Saleem–always good to hear from you. Yes, I am familiar with those ugly ideas, as well as the Hadith.
And besides many of the “Prophet’s” women being sex slaves, there was also poor little Aisha, who was a little pre-pubescent girl when Muhammed started raping her. Yeah–what a “stud”–*Ugh*.
Godwin says
One fine day, they will get their hands on a dirty bomb or a small nuke bomb in a suitcase. That will cause the biggest bang in the West.
WPM says
Little of topic the first WTC bombing in . 1993 the terrorist were caught by the ring leader going back get his deposit on the rental truck. They got the vin.# of from parts of the exploded truck traced it back to the rental company . He even rent it on a credit card with his real name but a fake address, it was a common Islamic name so the case went cool. Then he calls the rental agent says the truck was stolen demands he want his 400 dollars back! The agent informs the FBI they wait at the rental agency the rest is history.24 years later will are still dealing with these crazy morally depraved morons all over the world making every items, every actives dangerous for law abide people of the world.
WPM says
correction ::every day items, every day actives !
WPM says
activity
gravenimage says
Yes, WPM–I remember reading about the first attack on the WTC, and finding it horrific but also just very odd. I thought things like that just happened in the Muslim world or in Israel–not that I made light of this, I just thought it was more common there because of the “Palestinian conflict” and because they were in the Middle East surrounded by ‘unstable’ countries. I knew little about Jihad at the time.
I would have been shocked if you had told me at the time that in less than 25 years such attacks would become commonplace in the West.
James says
The Shoah “could have been even worse” too – do we therefore owe Hitler a vote of thanks for having the restraint to kill only 6 million Jews rather than 15 million ?
Pal says
Iranian-Dutch philosopher and professor of Law speaks out Truths about Islam, Quran Muhammad and Islamisation of Europe:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=211&v=J8zxc-P-CT8
WPM says
The ending is rather sad, but true in a sense a self cleaning he said at the end of the interview. If they follow the Koran ,Hadths ,and Sharia laws they will lack morality. They have no self reflection all blame for what is wrong in there lives, in there society is projected on the other those outside of Islam or there brand of Islam example Shiite, Sunni ,Kurd ect..You have who nation states were the majority of the people are mental ill and as they practice read and pray according to there” holy” books you get more mental ill. The cult of Islam thinking and facts most Western leaders do not want address.
aDhimmiSaysWhat? says
Good video. Must watch.
Keys says
Thanks for posting the video, Pal.
The last point in the video is that we are waiting for the “self-cleaning” of Islam.
It will never happen. Asolutely impossible. Muslims can not change the perfect will of Allah, nor can they change the life of his perfect man, Mohammad.
The word of Allah is absolute, and he is absolutely evil.
And as long as infidels wait, Islam terrorizes the earth with Allah’s jihad.
And where does that lead? Death of everything good.
WPM says
The self cleaning I think he was referring to after they kill many Kafir they will turn on each other Sunni Shiite ect. and kill all themselves off.
Saleem Smith says
Devout Muslims will always desire and attempt to impose Islamic/Sharia rule. This is the nature and immutable theological code of Islamic theology. We ex-Muslims know that Mohammedanism is an evil pack of lies.
Michael Copeland says
Impose Sharia Law on All Mankind – I.S.L.A.M.
Keys says
Excellent acronym, Michael !
Graham says
The police should share the details of the 3,500 known jihadis, (over 23,000 in reality), via a database with van hire companies so that that these idiots are immediately flagged up when they try to hire. They should be more strict on providing photo ID and confirming address details.
These companies already have restrictions in place and refuse point blank to hire out vans to those in certain occupations. I used to work in film and tv production and we could never hire a van!!
Hertz salesman – “You want a van for Jidadi massacre? Fine just sign here”.
WPM says
Thank you I was not aware that car, van and truck agencies had a do not rent database restrictions on hire out vans to certain occupations. The police could give those rental agencies the names of jihadis like the airlines no fly list. It is amazing how hard these Islamic terrorist are making everyday so crazy and we are not learning how to deal with it. In 1993 they used a rental van to blow up the basement in the first WTC attack . The only reason they were caught is the terrorist went back to get his deposit see my post above.24 years later the West is still deaf to any lesson on Islamic terrorist.
Rufolino says
Shocked ! Don’t be so hostile and islamophobic !
Bill says
Your governments are not willing to protect you. They have invited the Islamic invasion and support it. They want you uninformed, weak, afraid and submissive. They will devote more resources to tracking down and punishing Koran burners and those that tell the truth about Islamic terror and the truth about their own government’s false efforts to confront it. Each individual is responsible first and foremost for their own safety.
Here is an alternative way of thinking about the situation: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2017/06/09/sheriff-be-armed-be-mentally-prepared-make-terrorists-defend-their-lives-for-a-change/
This Sheriff, even in the USA, has risked a lot to be this blunt. He will be attacked by the mainstream media and the Democrats relentlessly and, if they can, they will hound him out of office and heap slanders upon him. But he is exactly right about what citizens have to be prepared to do. .
Charles T Lawson says
Its all about MONEY these days ,Unless you have MONEY you are a nobody , Even your bond is no good to you if you have no MONEY , Thats what this world has become . SODOM and GOMORA give me ,give me , give me.
WPM says
Its about power, money is the path the Islamic use for power. Power to control what you say ,eat drink worship. If you not in the “in cult “Islam you have to submit to the cult that is the end game . If you are useful to the Islamics you are there useful slave .If you are not useful you are killed simple to the point. The Islamics will use money to bribe, they will use block voting to sway election (or out right election fraud).They terrorist to scare any voice against them. It is a standard format for them for 1400 years, only now they use modern tools at hand to get it done. It is our duty to fight them legally with the tools of free speech, exposing there lies, backing people running for office that want to keep our way of life alive. Western Europe has reach the tipping point ,the rest of Western and Eastern world should watch see and read to learn the lesson on the killing of Western Europe.
Anne Smith says
It should be more difficult for any of these jihadis to hire a 7.5 truck as you need a specially authorised driving licence and have to pass a test for it in UK.
I suppose this means they will resort to stealing them in future.
Valkyrie Ziege says
; One must wonder what the financial details were?
I’m guessing the credit-card was ”maxed-out”, or the rental company realized, electrically, that the credit-card was stolen, and were afraid to report it because they didn’t want to be labeled ”Islamophobic”, and/or ”religiously/racially intolerant”. The next time, and you know there will be one, or several, very soon, the Muhammadans will black-mail one of their apologists into using their name, and/or their credit-card, on the rental form.
Ed Lee says
In 2002 I worked in a cement manufacturing plant. We worked with several trucking companies to have various materials transported between our plant and other facilities. One of the trucking companies suddenly began hiring Arabic speaking drivers who obviously were just learning how to drive 80,000 pound big-rigs. Since they did not speak English, they were driving illegally – because in California, to get a commercial driver’s license, you must take both the written and driving tests in English. When I went to my plant management and suggested that these novice drivers were training so that they could drive large quantities of explosives into the Los Angeles basin, I was laughed out of their office. Fortunately, since the cement plant is right next to the quarry and blasting is done there on a regular basis, we received quarterly visits from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (BATFE). The next time the BATFE agents showed up, I talked to them about the trucking company and their drivers. I got stone-cold stares and a very terse “thank you”. Within a week of my conversation with the BATFE, that trucking company was gone; their building was empty, as well as their truck/trailer parking yard. My bosses were dumbfounded and nearly silent about it. The BATFE never said another word about it. “See something, say something” works.
WPM says
Good you save lives more people should do that. Everyone is afraid of being labeled racist.
WPM says
If you talk to them in 2015 they would have done nothing under Obama leadership , if something happen it would be workplace violence.
gravenimage says
Good for you, Ed! Even though you never got any acknowledgement, I imagine you saved some lives, and probably made this sort of thing more difficult for Muslims to pull off in the future.
A lot of people wouldn’t have said anything at all; many others would have given up after the ridicule met on the first attempt. You are a brave and principled man. *Thank you*.
Ed Lee says
It was a perplexing situation. Many of my co-workers were concerned about the problem, but I was the only one who was willing to talk to the BATFE. I have found that in the general public, there is great distrust of law enforcement at all levels.
Lon Spector says
There but for the grace of God, goes all my body parts.