“The Royal Australian Navy is advertising for ‘devout Muslims,’” by Bernard Gaynor, June 26, 2017:
The Royal Australian Navy is now advertising for devout Muslims:
It is so desperate to secure their services that it is even kitting out mini-mosques on every base for them. Presumably, they get space at sea to pray as well.
This pro-Islamic attitude is far different from the one shown towards Defence members who are Christian.
Here is an excerpt from a letter sent to me by the former Chief of Defence Force, Lieutenant General David Hurley, about my expression of my Catholic faith:
This much is clear. The ADF hierarchy will sack Defence members for expressing Christian beliefs regardless of whether they are on duty or in uniform. And they will actively recruit Muslims and set aside work spaces so that they can pray.
It is a blatant case of double standards and hypocrisy.
That is bad enough.
But this politically-correct endorsement of Islam is also dangerous. That’s far worse.
We have already seen one Australian soldier go AWOL and end up fighting in Syria for jihadi groups. And we have seen a US major go postal at Fort Hood and kill 13 US soldiers dead. Prior to this he even handed out business cards announcing that he was a ‘Soldier of Allah’.
No one said anything lest they be accused of racism. Or bigotry. Or even bigoted Islamophobic racism.
That happened in 2009 and it is by no means an isolated example. There have been numerous other similar cases and even Islamic French SF soldiers have signed up to fight for the Islamic State.
No doubt, all of these people claim they are devout Muslims….
notmoron says
The leftards feeling Good on March
eur says
The security of our families in the hands of the Muslims .. what could go wrong?
Michael Copeland says
“Personally, I don’t trust one Muslim in our military because they’re commanded to lie to us through the term called Taqiyya. And if they truly are a devout Muslim, and follow the Quran and the Sunnah, then I feel threatened because they’re commanded to kill me.”
Rep. Rick Womick (TN), Air Force veteran
Shmooviyet says
I realize this is entitled ‘My Story’– but Nicholas’ sounds a bit too much I and my. Not a real ‘us’ mentality– brothers looking out for one another.
He’s “just one of the guys”– with his own prayer room and chance to “talk with everyone” about his faith?
Why not the same chance for a Christian Lt., if he’s not prosletyzing at everyone? Today’s Army, falling over itself to favor one faith.
Westman says
A devout-Muslim-Patriot is an oxymoron of such magnitude that it could only be conceived by an Islam-ideology-deficient moron. Allah says no allegiance to secular governments. Got it?
“[Allah] maketh none to share in his government.” Q 18:26
“O you who believe! Obey Allah and obey the Messenger and those in authority from among you…” Q 4:59. Notice that only those AMONG [Muslims] have authority that requires obedience.
Don McKellar says
Recruitment poster from World War 2: Devout nazis needed to fight Hitler.
Savvy Kafir says
Sure! Makes sense, right?
Political correctness and common sense are natural enemies. They cannot co-exist within the same skulls.
murad says
Unless they are cowardly Traitor kuffars.
Savvy Kafir says
How would you like to be a non-Muslim sailor serving on a submarine with devout Muslims? — always wondering if today is the day they’ll decide to destroy the ship & sacrifice themselves, to strike a blow at the unbelievers & be whisked off to Paradise? Sound like fun?
Sailors & soldiers serving in the West should not have to be constantly watching their backs. The only Muslims serving in our Armies & Navies should be former Muslims — IF they can be vetted with any degree of certainty.
We are at war with Islam, because the True Believers of Islam have declared war on us. Recruiting Muslim sailors & soldiers is PC insanity.
Don McKellar says
The Royal Australian Navy promises at least one ticking human time bomb on every ship!
mortimer says
Agree with Don. Exactly. Allahu Akbar, matey!
What fun for the sailors… a guessing game: When will Sudden Jihad Syndrome rear its ugly head?
mortimer says
Does the RAN also want APOSTATES from Islam, ‘moderate’, non-practicing Muslims, and wishy-washy Muslims who couldn’t care less? Why do they only want ‘DEVOUT’ Muslims?
This is discrimination, is it not?
Cantor says
It appears that every non-moozlim nation in the world now has a death-wish against their own citizens. Even the moozlim nations exterminate their own people, but they have much more fun exterminating your citizens.
mortimer says
They are putting their militaries at risk.
“Whoever joins a mushrik and lives with him is like him” – Abu Dawud: 2787
That means whoever lives with the Australian military becomes a kafir in the eyes of other Muslims.
Cantor says
Oh, and btw, when you’re a moozlim submariner in the RAN, who is the enemy? If the commander orders his crew to torpedo a ship carrying moozlims, they’ll likely mutiny.
mortimer says
Disagree. Most military personnel will follow orders without liking the order, but a ‘DEVOUT MUSLIM’ will surely have a lot of questions when asked to fire on Muslims, because he may be sent by Allah to hell.
Islam the religion of killers says
Look what is going on in Afghanistan with the soldiers training to defend the govt, the people, and freedom..
They cannot be trained with weapons,
PRCS says
No, they can be trained with weapons.
It’s who they’ll use them against that’s problematic.
John A. Marre says
“…still one of the guys, I just share a different belief.”
I’m glad you don’t plan to blow up a submarine while shouting “allahu akhbar!”. It’s good that you would willingly fight a Muslim invader, if it were required of you. I’m happy that your allegiance is to Australia, and not to the Caliphate.
I’m pleased that you won’t slice a fellow sailor’s neck while he eats a ham sandwich. Nice to know that you won’t suddenly blow up (LOL) during a long Ramadan fasting day while your fellow sailors chow down and you don’t.
Terrific, but will your fellow Muslims agree with that?
mortimer says
Any Muslim in a Western military service should take frequent lie detector tests to determine his loyalty.
One further point to concur with Bernard Gaynor: A ‘devout Muslim’ would surely know that he should not take disbelievers as friends, allies or guardians.
“O you who believe! do not take the Jews and the Christians for friends; they are friends of each other; and whoever amongst you takes them for a friend, then surely he is one of them; surely Allah does not guide the unjust people.” – Koran 5.51
Muslims must ‘hate’ the disbelieving KUFAAR ‘for the sake of Allah’ or he will not enter Islamic paradise. No Muslim can be a friend or ally of disbelievers in a military service, or he is not a DEVOUT Muslims, but a wishy-washy Muslim.
mortimer says
“Whoever joins a mushrik and lives with him is like him” – Abu Dawud: 2787
Chris Malan says
The Muslim will beat the lie detector. It’s not lying to him to lie to infidels. If anything, it will most likely relax him – a pleasant way to pass the time.
todaytonight says
Why are we talking about Muslims and about Islam here? Problems are their YATAKS aka Western Useful Idiots. The corrupt ones. Name them while it is not too late.
During the Ottoman Imperial, Serbs were especially prone to this very role of being Turkish yataks. That is why, and that is how their people suffered under the Ottomans for full 500 years! Croats and Slovenes were never that much corrupt and that is why will take another 300 years for Serbs to catch up with the civilised world, in despite their great potential and their great geopolitical position, the same as Croats and Slovenes.
somehistory says
How to keep snakes out of the home? Pile up snakes to bar the door…makes so much sense.
Helping the beast, keeping it alive and strong. (Revelation 13)
“The end of all things has drawn close (1 Peter 4)” It’s time to have a sound mind and pray a lot, as the world sinks lower and deeper into madness and self-destruction.
mohamonator says
The RAN is thinking ahead. They will need some of those devout mohammedans to translate for them when they surrender to a mohammedan adversary.
common sense says
RAN is not directly advertising for “devout” followers of any other religion. Virtue signaling at its worst, this can no longer be considered military, they are controlled by PC.
Peggy says
Fox guarding the chickens.
I can only hope that Australian Conservatives grow into a strong political party and teach the other two traitor parties a lesson.
David says
To whom will these devout muslims swear allegiance?
Donald R Laster Jr says
The Australian Navy is asking for lots of problems. The Islamics will have access to real weapons of mass destruction and they will use them on the non-Islamics. The people doing these are engaging in treason against Australia.
Lydia says
Typical!
Then a Christian can’t be in their army because the orders of our boss contradict their boss.
We are to share our faith in general in any way and every opportunity. I’m not talking about pushing the matter in the middle of doing work related tasks. But if someone asks us, we have to give an answer. And we are called by the Lord to share the gospel with all. So we could never agree ‘not to.’ There is a clear contradiction and we must obey God over all else and thus could never serve in their army under such regulations. I will share my faith, come what may my way, and will never agree not to do this anywhere.
It is such an obvious double standard and shows the bigotry they have against us. Things are and will continue to get worse.
Yoda Dunbar says
This sickens me to the stomach, my Old Man, Navy? My Pop Navy, Brother Navy, to see them cowtailing to damned Muslims is sickening.
Why?
Pumbar says
Interfaith Royal Australian Navy, I.R.A.N, oh, hang on…
gravenimage says
The Royal Australian Navy is advertising for ‘devout Muslims’
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Bloody fools. How many good Australian military personnel will ultimately pay for this insane policy with their lives? Even worse, how does this endanger the civilian population they are supposed to be protecting?
I hope all Aussies here write their representatives and let then know what they think.
Matthieu Baudin says
In a submarine! A billion dollars in hardware and trapped mariners in a can under water!
Devout – in Traditional Islam this stands for religious rigidity and compliance – that’s not what’s needed in men bearing arms to serve their nation.
Sarah says
The last place I’d want to be is in a submarine with a handful of Muslims. You can hardly knock out a decent exit plan in that scenario.
And Navy? What Navy? Our Navy was gutted. All it does now is patrol to make sure pirates don’t get too close, that people smuggler’s don’t get wise and try sending another boat full of Muslims to our shores – and go play in war games in the Asia-Pacific region.
I don’t think we even have any real warships left. And the submarines? What, are we still using those floating refrigerator Collins Class tubs? Thank God for the US troops stationed here, because we’ll be overrun in 6 minutes flat by marauding Indonesians in the event of WW3.
Chris Malan says
They will richly deserve what they will get sooner or later. How stupid can an organisation be?
Dehne mclaugjlin says
I am amazed that my government is instigating such hypocrisy in promoting Islam over Christianity in the armed services. My father matey mclaughlin repeatedly risked his life in ww2, Korea and Vietnam. He was no professing Christian at the time but a bit of a cowboy. Now government idiots are wanting to dump Muslims in our forces at a time in our history when a devout Muslim is likely to have a sever conflict of interests in the crazy war theaters we are caught up in. Dad would say …stupid is what stupid does. Goodbye rational Australia.
Peter says
You think the Australian Navy would have learnt its lesson putting malcontents into submarines. In 1972 a sailor was conscripted against his will into the crew of HMAS Onslow. In an act of revenge and insubordination he failed to close a valve during a dive exercise causing it to crash dive to nearly twice its safe operating depth. I dove to 366 metres before being saved by the crew. A pious muslim could do a lot of damage in a submarine. In fact an act of sabotage would play nicely into Sura 9 Verse 111 of the Quran.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HMAS_Onslow
Baucent says
There is a Christophobic inspired double standard at play here. In most the government services of Western nations today, Christians are not allowed to show any sign of their faith. “Remove that cross, no Bible in your desk and certainly don’t pray at your work station”. But if you are a muslim; “bring along your prayer mat, we’ll turn that room into a prayer room, time off during ramadam? No problem.”
David, Thailand says
I don’t see what the problem is in Australia or even Europe, the people voted for leaders that despise what they represent, and got what they elected.
Isn’t that how democracy is supposed to work?
Ron says
The universal call to duty previously described as “God & Country” needs to be specifically revised to be stated as “Allah & Country.”
FYI says
keep his kind away from weapons,explosive ordnance….
One of the guys eh?
Tell that to the US servicemen murdered every time one of the muslims they train decides to go on one of their allah-sanctioned rampages…
FYI says
Note to the Australian Navy.
For the sake of the National Security of Australia.
Please keep Nicholas away from any torpedo tubes or access to weaponry.
You just never know with the followers of allah will do.
You sees there is that islamic tendency to “slay the unbelievers wherever you find them”k2:191
like say..in the enclosed space of…a Submarine.
By the way,Nicholas openly admits that he didn’t disclose his religious beliefs on joining.There is a trm for this and it’s part of the devout Nicholas’s creed.
It’s called TAQQIYA.
The Islamic art of lying,conceling the truth and deception… and it seems Nicholas by his own admission………has actually already demonstrated it..hasn’t he?
And a pissed off member of the religion of peace needs to be monitored closely at all times in
case he decides to follow his allah’s commands.
Especially in the confined space of a submarine..it could get very messy…don’t say you weren’t warned.
And Nicholas has already admitted to being economical with the truth.
The Australian Navy.
Men you can trust.
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“Devout muslim submariner”:Did the Australian Navy ever hear of those Japanese Kamikaze pilots of WW2??
PRCS says
As Australia has a problem with halal certification, does he receive halal meals?
If so:
Does the entire crew get to enjoy them, too?
Are those meals more expensive than haram meals?
And–space being at a premium in a submarine–does he have a special prayer room, or are the rest of the crew subjected to his prayers five times a day?
Are beards permitted for all RAN submariners, or just this Devout Muslim?
Are other crewmen permitted to eat a ham sandwich in his presence?
May other crewmen read a Bible when off watch? In berthing spaces? In the mess?
Etc., etc., etc.
UNCLE VLADDI says
Imagine our forefathers in WWII Armies advertising for “Devout NAZIS” for “diverse equality” and “multicultural enrichment”