This initiative is already in full swing: in mid-February, traffic to Jihad Watch from Facebook dropped suddenly by 90% and has never recovered. We do not post any “explicit, hateful and provocative material that incites violence and terrorism,” but Facebook is acting as judge, jury and executioner in all this. There is no appeal and no recourse. This is at heart a Sharia endeavor, an Islamic supremacist attempt to compel the West to adopt Sharia blasphemy laws forbidding criticism of Islam, and it’s working well.
How did Joel Kaplan, a Western liberal, feel while sitting there in Islamabad with Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan, listening to Khan tell him about “the madness unleashed against Islam and holy personalities in the name of freedom of expression”? Does Kaplan know or care about the importance of the freedom of expression to free society? Did he feel any sense of irony in having gone into a business dedicated to communication and now having traveled halfway around the world to assure an official of one of the most illiberal governments on earth that his company would do all it could to restrict communication?
Or was he just thinking about the bottom line, and when his flight out was?
“We’ll drop anti-Islam input, Facebook tells Pak,” by Tariq Butt, Gulf Today, July 9, 2017 (thanks to Lookmann):
ISLAMABAD: The Facebook management has assured Pakistan that it will remove fake accounts and explicit, hateful and provocative material that incites violence and terrorism.
The commitment was given by Vice President of Facebook Joel Kaplan who called on Interior Minister Chaudhry Nisar Ali Khan on Saturday.
Facebook has reiterated its commitment to keep the platform safe and promote values that are in congruence with its community standards.
It also committed to remove fake accounts, explicit, hateful and provocative material that incites violence and terrorism.
Giving details of the meeting, an interior ministry spokesman said that this is for the first time that a senior member of Facebook, dealing with Global Public Policy, has visited Pakistan to discuss a way forward towards addressing the issue of misuse of social media platforms.
The interior minister, the spokesperson said, has been playing a proactive role in engaging the internet service providers and finding solution to the issue of misuse of social media.
This also included convening of a special meeting of the ambassadors of the Muslim countries in March on a single-point agenda to discuss blasphemous content on social media and how to effectively raise voice of the entire Muslim world against the madness unleashed against Islam and holy personalities in the name of freedom of expression.
This was followed by a meeting of the minister with OIC secretary general in April on this issue.
The spokesperson said that while talking to the Facebook vice president, Nisar said that the entire Muslim Ummah was greatly disturbed and has serious concerns over the misuse of social media platforms to propagate blasphemous content.
“Nothing is more sacred to us than our religion and our holy personalities,” the minister observed.
He said that the government of Pakistan firmly believes in freedom of expression but cannot allow anyone to misuse social media for hurting religious sentiments or undertaking unlawful activities….
Ren says
Facebook = sharia compliant
Andy says
A Word To The Criminal Migrant
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3VLBFc42p0
John Forbes says
It is a strange thing this BOWING to AN IDEOLOGY that seeks to destroy choice ! Our schools seem to have missed the FREE CHOICE lessons & OPTED for Blasphemy Laws !
This is an IDEOLOGY FIGHT the WEST MUST win or our freedom of expression & choice will be lost along with Democracy !
There are amazingly naive & stupid people out there who refuse to look at or realize how dangerous this IDEOLOGY & LOSING to its DICTATES are !
There are many in the WEST who seek to protect ISLAM by falling into the trap of using Blasphemy laws that will end free speech !
If any IDEOLOGY needs inspection. criticism & close scrutiny it is ISLAM !
IT is out to WIN by any MEANS POSSIBLE & LYING is one of the principle weapons & well USED !!
Bob says
Tell that to our Uk politicos- Corbyn, for starters supports islamic groups as his “friends”.
Linde Barrera says
And remember dear JihadWatch.org readers: “Truth is the new hate speech” (quote from the great Pamela Geller) and if you are not on board with that concept, well then, you are just a bad global citizen and deserve to be censored if you tell the truth about what verses in the Quran reveal undemocratic ideals, as well as violence and death to any and all infidels. Long live free speech! PS-Does this pompous FB executive ask his Pakistani hosts about the fate of Asia Bibi, a Christian lady who has been imprisoned in Pakistan for several years ? based on false charges of blasphemy? I doubt it.
CogitoErgoSum says
He has probably never even heard of Asia Bibi …. but if he has, I doubt if he cares. The risk/reward ratio of any publicity pertaining to her situation does not make an interest in her economically viable for Facebook Inc.
Lydia says
Translated: They don’t care about Christians. They only care about pleasing muslims and being sharia compliant in the new Orwellian speak world of “truth is lies” and “lies are true” because we say so mentality.
Nancy Kilpatrick says
You got that right!
RonaldB says
Bottom line? Why would a business executive even think of going to backwater Pakistan? How much revenue would be lost if every single person in Paki dropped their Facebook account? It might be a sizable number of people, but no smart advertiser would care in the least, as the disposable income of Pakis is at a third-world level…most likely, because Pakistan is the poster child of the third world economy.
More likely, this gives Facebook an opportunity to do what they really wanted to do anyway. The Western universities teach cultural Marxism..hatred of the West and its institutions and peoples..so it would be natural to see Facebook executive, university products all, happy to hop on any anti-Western train. Profit-wise, I would say ignoring the sheet-covered kleptocrats in Islamabad would break even or even be a benefit.
Andy says
THE MOSLEM WORLD IS AT WAR WITH THE WEST! IT HAS BEEN FOR MANY CENTURIES! IF MOSLEMS WOULD HAVE INTEGRATED AND BE PEACEFUL INSTEAD OF MAKING PIECES OF PEOPLE WHEN THEY COME TO A HOST NATION .
WE WOULD’ NOT BE HAVING THESE ARTICLES NOW!
eur says
With the west ,with the east, with north ,with the south….and if someday some extraterrestrial civilization is found the Mohammedans will also cut off their heads and try to implant sharia.
mortimer says
FACEBOOK should just say ‘no’ to any censorship. Because FACEBOOK will not stand up to THEOCRATIC FASCISM, those who love FREE SPEECH must join together and create an ALTERNATIVE TO FACEBOOK.
I call on the IT industry to start up a rival to FACEBOOK and many of us will pledge to support it an boycott FACEBOOK.
Will anyone second the motion?
Linde Barrera says
Hi dear mortimer- I second your motion for an alternative to Facebook, and I think it is a great idea! As a matter of fact, I have decided to delete my Facebook account under my real legal name, Linde Barrera, on September 1 after 2 1/2 years, and have already deleted most of the photos that I once posted. So what corporate group do you think might sponsor a Facebook alternative? ?
Pumbar says
http://Www.minds.com is probably close to what you seeek
100% behind free speech.
Linde Barrera says
To Pumbar- Thank you so much. I will check out this website. A techno dunce like me appreciates all your advice and help. xo
Pumbar says
Only too pleased to help. Lots of Youtubers are doubling up on minds.com since Google started adding surreptitious censorship to Youtube.
If you are/were a Twitter user have a look at https://gab.ai too.
Enjoy!
c matt says
Maybe Facebook should rename itself to Facepalm.
Westman says
Instead of throwing away our constitutional rights, perhaps the best solution is to disconnect Pakistan from the internet. Let them live in the shallow, unquestioned bosom of Islam; which, apparently, cannot abide the light of scrutiny, or, its immediate neighbor country.
Aren’t we getting tired of the media misinformation and corporate corruption’s attempts to run our lives? “Fake” news isn’t upset about the new moniker, it’s angry about losing control of the narratives.
gravenimage says
Facebook VP travels to Pakistan to assure government it will remove “anti-Islam” material
……………………..
Utterly repulsive–deliberate enabling of evil and crushing of freedom of speech.
Jerry says
“Nothing is more sacred to us than our religion and our holy personalities,” the minister observed.”
We all know that, that’s why we’re so concerned. Most muslims care more about their violent and depraved god and “prophet” than they do the rights of others. And the result has been murder, rape, and pillage.
” …the government of Pakistan firmly believes in freedom of expression but cannot allow anyone to misuse social media for hurting religious sentiments or undertaking unlawful activities….”
“Hurting religious sentiments”? ha! such noble talk from him! What could be more hurtful to religious sentiments than kill or enslave the unbeliever! Look up “hypocrite” in the dictionary and there’s a picture of him!
Andy says
Here is another moslem person trying to censor others from telling the truth.
A Racist Saudi Arabian Comedian wants to censor and Attacks Kevin J. Johnston. What is Fahad Albutairi’s Problem?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rRk8b5v1KI0
Andy says
I saw a shocking video and am just sickened by it but we have to let others know what is going on with the religion of peace without being censored.
WARNING GRAPHIC CONTENT:
HORRIFIC! Obama-backed Shiite Militia cuts out man’s heart near Mosul and EATS IT
http://shoebattube.com/watch_video.php?v=9YXW8GKSXSYU
billybob says
Thanks – but I’ll pass.
Andy says
billybob
At least you have a choice to view “without being censored”
Jerry says
I watched it. It’s sickening beyond words. And of course there was the proverbial “allahu akbar” too. They scream to their devil because they’re doing the devil’s work.
gravenimage says
I’ve seen this. Bloody barbarians.
common sense says
FB is walking on eggshells, they as all dhimmi’s are true Islamophobes, fearful of Islam, fearful of the truth about Islam and un-ordinarily fearful of the truth about Islam being spoken on FB.
John Forbes says
Douglas Murray stated this clearly quite a while ago!
WESTERN WORLD Governments are incredibly good at dealing with SECONDARY issues – SHUTTING down INFORMATION & FREE SPEECH BUT utter COWARDS at FACING up to ISLAM & Their MISTAKES !
The UTTER ARROGANCE of WESTERN POLITICIANS & the COWARDICE on show needs to be STAMPED ON & STAMPED on HARD !
ANGLE MERKEL – asked ZUKERMAN long ago about what he was going to do about OPPOSITION in FACE BOOK to EUROPEAN Immigration . He stated _ WE ARE WORKING IN IT !!!
SO SHOULD BE NO SUPRISE !!
Mike says
Sounds like Facebook is now HALAL.
FSB-policed, Russian-influenced VK.com doesn’t sound any worse!
Carlos Danger says
Consider walking away from your Fakebook account and leaving it to rot on the vine.
First message all of your Fakebook “friends” informing them why you decided to do this.
Real friends will understand your decision and might follow your shining example. The others do not matter.
c matt says
Did it about 2 years ago and have not regretted one second – well, regretted that I was ever on it.
Jerry says
The leaders of these backward muslim countries must be scared out of their minds. These tyrants are trying to maintain a totalitarian culture built on 7th century ignorance in the internet age. The last thing they need is dangerous talk of freedom and equality in the ears of their people. We’ve seen Erdogan try and do the same as Pakistan, shut down parts of the internet and control the press. They can’t allow reasoned criticism or satire of their “religion” because that would undermine their authority. They need to keep their people as dumb and unaware as possible. Any talk of equality or free expression might cause their citizens to question the moral and intellectual foundation of islam. Illiteracy is a big problem in so many muslim countries, about 50% in Pakistan I’m told. These rulers must keep their people stupid or risk losing control, they’re doing a good job with FB’s help.
FB is doing nothing good to advance the cause of social justice by degrading free expression. More than anything, they are encouraging religious slavery and oppression by denying uncensored knowledge and ideas that could save their lives and restore their freedoms. They are perfectly happy to turn a blind eye to the humanitarian crimes of islam as long as Pakistan doesn’t ban them again like in 2010. Better they should have dumped Pakistan and protested on their citizen’s behalf. They could have set a good humanitarian example for the whole world, but like the good dhimmis they are it’s so much easier to just bow with the rest.
CoastalSue says
Kaplan? Isn’t that a Jewish name? And don’t Muslims hate Jews and want to kill them? How stupid can you get?
billybob says
A few years ago, there were different proposals floating around to provide basic internet to India’s poor. Google made a proposal for a free and open, but limit service while Facebook and partners also made a proposal. However, Facebook’s proposal was restricted to them and their partners.Criticism were made about this proposal, because it would stear all traffic to this alliance. India turned Facebook’s offer down. Now we see the wisdom of that choice if it wasn’t clear earlier.
Dapto says
Mark Suckerberg has agreed to identify you for the gas chambers and george soros has agreed to finance the building of the said gas chambers.
davej says
All must bow down to the Islamic Fascists, apparently.
I hate facebook and all the self appointed narcissistic claptrap that it stands for.
As Robert points out, it is highly ironic that an enterprise supposedly dedicated to communication instead chooses censorship. What a bunch of cowards!
All things must pass and I hope facebook collapses from its own internal contradictions as soon as possible.
Shan says
Glad I never sign up for uglyfacebookieman. Not interested and never ever will.
Wade Meyer says
I started my own FB page specifically to inform Westerners of this dangerous cult. I don’t care what Pakistan bans. I want to make certain we stay informed. I have virtually no follower but that’s okay. It is a freedom litmus test.
https://www.facebook.com/Civilian-Defense-from-Islam-107859335951612/?ref=bookmarks
pdxnag says
To be neutral then FB will remove all things Islamic, pro and anti? A No Islam zone, for the sake of peace.
Boycot FaceBook! says
“[FaceBook] also committed to remove fake accounts, explicit, hateful and provocative material that incites violence and terrorism.”
… incites violence and terrorism
This explicitly acknowledges islamic violence and terrorism.
It also shows the hypocrisy, as if freedom of speech CAUSES violence and terrorism.
That is a big lie, and FaceBook knows it.
I will be boycotting FaceBook, I will not accept this behavior!
c matt says
It also explicitly acknowledges that Facepalm has inflated numbers (fake accounts). I wonder of their advertisers are aware of that little fact?
Jon Cassar says
The rot is certainly in. It’s remarkable how our Western governments are capitulating on all levels to appease Muslims. But in the process they’re losing respect and commitment from their own citizens. It has to end badly.
Linda Goudsmit says
George Orwell said it decades ago. “In a time of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act. The further a society drifts from the truth the more it will hate those who speak it.” What this means is that in a time of universal deceit the truth is labelled hate speech and those who speak it are smeared, reviled, and shunned. We are living in such a time and Facebook’s globalist leader Mark Zuckerberg is an active participant who disingenuously presents FB censorship as an act of altruism. In fact, Zuckerberg is censoring and scrubbing the truthful reporting of Islam’s expansionist movement to re-establish the caliphate and impose supremacist Islamic sharia law worldwide. Any criticism of the barbarity and savagery of the Islamic rape/murder culture being imported into the West through open-border policies is being labelled hate speech. Zuckerberg, like the rest of the mega-mogul globalist billionaires seeks an internationalized unrestricted marketplace for his business. Controlling content on the Internet is the most efficient way to implement their goals of one-world government. Consider his latest efforts with pal Bill Gates to “altruistically” offer “free” computer education to children in East Africa. The Bridge curriculum will indoctrinate generations of African youth in their radical left-wing liberal narrative just like Common Core in America. Whoever controls the curriculum content controls the future – the globalist dream – for your own good of course.
Valkyrie Ziege says
; I saw this coming over two-years ago, and that’s why I left ”Facebook”.
Ric says
Facebook is, no more or less, a front for leftists. If one deviates politically or spiritually from the Leftist Progressive Doctrine, one’s right to freedom of speech is tossed to the wayside. Facebook is intolerant of those disparaging other’s faiths or political leaning with the one exception, Islam. It is permissible, in Facebooks askew principles, to spew utter hatred of Western Civilization. Bigotry is a one-way street; racism is a sickly malady from which solely white conservatives suffer.
Islamophobia is a no-no; however, anti-Semitism, anti-Christianity or other faiths diverse of Islam are fair game to not only be vilified but murdered en masse. Freedom of speech is on life-support unless one is Muslim, a leftist progressive, Marxist, or Maoist. Persecution of Judaism, Christianity, and other religions diverse of Islam is deemed tolerable. The masse-murder of the aforementioned is unobjectionable; after all, in the perverse, illogical leftist worldview terrorism is not perpetrated by Islamists. Conservatives, Jews, Christians, Buddhists are the actual
terrorists; once again excepting Islam. Facebook is a mouthpiece for those striving towards a Totalitarian regime.
Sarah says
I do not use Facebook. Just the very fact that by agreeing to their T&C’s means they own any content, footage and images that you publish on your account, permanently – is enough for me to stay away.
Add in Zuckerberg’s little chat with goddamn Merkel – and now this absolute nonsense in Pakistan and I am extremely satisfied with my decision to avoid the POS site.
They only have the power that they currently hold, because of people who willingly sign away tremendous amounts of private information, footage and imagery of themselves to a giant corporation for nothing. If people started using their brains and dropped Facebook like the bad habit that it is, then Zuckerberg and all his filthy aims and desires would be utterly irrelevant to the world stage.
I am just waiting for the slimy little piece to run for the POTUS seat. Mark my words, he’s eyeing off a run. Imagine the world with that dopey looking, extremely sinister little autocrat in charge. Talk about 1984 come to life.
Jerry says
Well said. I had a FB account for about 5 months before I escaped from the nonsense and I’ve never gone back. Everyone’s flexing their ego. Can’t imagine what I was thinking putting my whole life out there for everyone to see, the books I read, the movies I watch, my daily thoughts, details about my work and schooling, my likes and dislikes… I must have been nuts. FB is so voyeuristic and narcissistic. Ya just know the only thing everyone cares about is how old or fat ya look, or being jealous of one another, or annoyed because they had to take the time to post a fake reply to stoke their ego. This 24/7 digital connection with others renders human interaction a chore and a burden and robs it of its meaning. I don’t need to share my life to that extent with identity thieves or people that don’t really give a hoot about me beyond “good morning.” I suppose FB can be good for some, like Spencer who’s trying to get his humanitarian message out there. But I think it’s strange that millions of average folk give it all up for the FBI, the CIA, the NSA, and any other person or entity that wants to accumulate data for their own subversive reasons. I hope FB crashes, it’s nothing but a tool for leftist propaganda.
P.s., haha!, my roommate who still has a FB account just told me my cousin posted on FB. So I asked, what did she say? She’s going to clean her closet and go to Walmart. lol. Now that’s something I really needed to know. lol, glad I left.
Jerry says
https://youtu.be/ZGEQmFL9McU?t=562
Andy says
Islamist Dickhead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQSJae6RuCk
Jerry says
Nobody does it better than Pat Condell.
I love that guy!
Peter Buckley says
The initiative won’t work. And besides Facebook is only one tiny element in the workings of the Internet.
More on the increasing number of apostates in Pakistan due in no small way to Pakistanis having Internet access:
“Zafer was once the muezzin, the man who recited the call to prayer at his village mosque. He used to pray five times a day and was a student of Islamic theology. When he got a job in IT and moved out of his family home, he found his views on religion had changed…..”
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-40580196
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p057xsgf