“The centre had capacity for up to 25 people, who were accepted on a voluntary basis and were able to undergo education and internship programmes of up to ten months. However, it had been sitting empty since February and only welcomed nine people in total – none of whom completed the full programme.”
It was voluntary, and it was empty.
Deradicalization programs, upon which the West has placed so much hope, have long been an obvious failure. Such programs are based on the premise that the true teachings of Islam are peaceful, and so all that needs to be done is show the jihadis how they’re misunderstanding the Qur’an and overlooking its teachings of peace, and all will be well. But since the Qur’an and Sunnah are full of commands to make war against and subjugate unbelievers, the idea that jihadis can be “deradicalized” by reference to them is just a myth told to Infidel authorities to lull them into complacency.
Well, let’s see. De-radicalization programs have been implemented elsewhere, notably in Indonesia and Saudi Arabia. Let’s look at how they fared. From the Jihad Watch archives:
Gitmo prisoner reveals: Saudi “deradicalization program” is really a jihad training program
11 ex-Gitmo prisoners flee the Saudi “rehabilitation program” and join up with terrorist groups
Jaw-dropper: 25 former Gitmo detainees “return to militancy” despite Saudi rehab program!
Flight 253 jihadist wasn’t cured by Saudi anti-jihad art therapy
Former Guantanamo detainee now top al-Qaeda ideologue — “He was transferred to Saudi Arabia in 2006 where he was placed in a national rehabilitation project.”
Indonesian government admits that its jihadist rehab program is a failure
Nor have they worked elsewhere, as we see from this story.
“France’s only deradicalization centre is closing,” The Local, July 28, 2017:
France’s first centre for deradicalization is set to close after less than a year, the government announced on Friday.
The Pontourney centre in central France was inaugurated in September 2016 with the aim of working with young people to convince them to turn their backs on extremism. Officially labelled a centre for ‘Reintegration and Citizenship’, it was targeted at 18-30-year-olds who had been exposed to radical ideologies.
But the Interior Ministry said on Friday that “the experiment has not been conclusive” and that the centre would be permanently closed.
The centre had capacity for up to 25 people, who were accepted on a voluntary basis and were able to undergo education and internship programmes of up to ten months.
However, it had been sitting empty since February and only welcomed nine people in total – none of whom completed the full programme.
Since its inception, the centre in Beaumont-en-Véron in the Indre et Loire department had been criticized by local residents and politicians. In particular, those living nearby were unhappy about the fact those staying at the centre were able to come and go freely in the town, due to the programme’s voluntary nature.
A Senate report in July had criticized France’s deradicalization strategy and called for the centre to be closed.
In Friday’s announcement, the government stressed that the closure did not mean an abandonment of the policy entirely….
Dum Spiro says
Is there any easy way to do a keyword search on Jihad Watch? Someone out there must know…
— Spero
Dum Spiro says
Maybe some way other than this:
(Using Google)
words here site:jihadwatch.org
It should make information easy and quick to find here…
— Spero
manat bint allaha says
i always type the address into the browser, jihadwatch.org
no search engine can stop me from doing that.
keep up the good work, JW.
mortimer says
Deprogramming jihadists right out of Islam is the only effective way to stop jihad. Such deprogrammed Muslims will deprogram many others. They will be given the option of reducing their sentences or the severity of them by participating in a university-level course of study of the Revisionist Theory of Islamic origins: namely, that Islam was a religious movement created by the sudden success of the Arab empire, rather than the reverse and that Islam was created as a justification for the dynasties which claimed the Arab hegemony. Deprogramming candidates will also be taught the unreliability of both the Koran and the hadiths and how they developed over two or three centuries, thus removing all credibility in Islam and leaving nothing to believe in. Once deprogrammed former jihadis lose their faith, they will be deemed safe to leave prison. It must become a government priority to create protocols for deprogramming all Muslims eventually, because all Muslims participate in jihad to some degree and support it to some degree.
t. says
Ok, mortimer, but how you’re going to do it?
Deprogramming any one from any bad behavior means making him/her associate massive pain to the old bad behavior and massive pleasure to the new desired one. This process should be repeated enough times till old patterns of thinking and behaving are broken and new pattern are put into place.
Unfortunately the west, with all its policies, laws, judicial system, willful ignorance, general weak response to Jihad and sometimes even by rewarding jihadists and Islamists with large sums of money in settlements or payments, using shadowy loopholes in the law or twisting existing laws, is reinforcing and may even be encouraging, at least indirectly, the continuation of jihad, the swelling of its ranks and the advancement of Islam on western soil, as Muslims, in general and jihadists in particular, are emboldened, thinking that God is delivering their enemies, the kuffars, the crusaders, into their hands.
Even Converts from Islam to Christianity and Christians fleeing persecution in their Muslim majority countries, find themselves threatened by Muslims in the west, as many recent cases in different countries attest. Worse, many Christian refugees, who are part of a minuscule percentage of the total number of refugees, with the majority being Muslims, admitted to some western countries were denied residency and ordered to be deported back.
Being Muslim has never been more lucrative than in these days, in the west and almost the whole world!
LR says
Well, with what has been going on…It seems to me a big part of the problem is the capitulation of ‘The West’, against it’s own good values, and principals.
In Michigan the FGM doctors are going to use the ‘freedom of religion’ defense, and if people in legal/political positions (like in NJ) clamp down on free speech, then what kind of message from ‘our own’ is that?
How are we to navigate through these messes?
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I do not know the laws regarding immigration…but it’s obvious we have been very lax for a long time regarding people coming in illegally, much less trying to get on the same page regarding these new legal immigrants coming to our countries.
gravenimage says
Mortimer wrote:
Deprogramming jihadists right out of Islam is the only effective way to stop jihad. Such deprogrammed Muslims will deprogram many others. They will be given the option of reducing their sentences or the severity of them by participating in a university-level course of study of the Revisionist Theory of Islamic origins…
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Yeah–that’ll work…sarc/off
Irene Brekelmans says
I think, it is a waste of money and effort and do you realise how many people there are and how much money is spend already on everything, . Give it a few weeks, a month, and everything will collapse, at one point it will break, sooner or later. We are only living on printed money.
The premises of the deprogram institute look nice, may be that is where the people came for, but I have pity on the muslims who are peaceful and keep to the laws, but can’t escape their own terror religion
And you can never trust them They might even plan their next killing in your deprogram centre. behind your back. So, I personally don’t think it will work out. Too bad.
Jack Holan says
Hardly a surprise except for the Men & Women at the US State Dept and Forteign Service.
seabird says
I think “deprogramming” would work but only on brainwashed children and abused Muslim women.
In the case of hardcore jihadists only disgraced psychiatric therapies like electro shock and pre-frontal lobotomies would have a chance of
working.
utis says
Suppose they declared peace, and nobody came? How’d that work, John (Lennon)?
c gamble says
can the world not understand these people want to take over,we are sitting on a timebomb.
Daniel Triplett says
Words won’t change the Ummah’s hearts and minds.
Only the threat of execution or nuclear annihilation will.
Ade says
should I laugh … or should I cry ?
t. says
Laugh because this is a very stupid world! Many people cried rivers of tears, over hundreds of years, up till now, over Islam’s atrocities and crimes and nothing changed.
Human stupidity and irrationality are in abundance, these days!
gravenimage says
France’s only jihadi “deradicalization” center is closing — it was voluntary, and it was empty
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Well, *that* says it all…