It only wasn’t realized among those who refused to see what was in front of their faces, but this new study in any case shows once again that the claim that jihad terrorists know little about Islam is false.
“Islam plays a greater role in radicalization,” translated from “Islam spielt bei Radikalisierung größere Rolle als angenommen,” Welt, August 3, 2017 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
An Islamic theologian has investigated how radicalization of Muslims in Europe is related to their knowledge of their own religion. The widespread view that radical Muslims know little about Islam is wrong.
According to a study, Islamic teaching plays a greater role in the radicalization of young Muslims in Europe than is often assumed. Frustration and a lack of career prospects alone are in no way a motive for the transformation from the Muslim to the Islamist, according to the study of the Islamic theologian Ednan Aslan, who was quoted by the newspaper “Die Tagespost” on Wednesday.
The widespread opinion that radical Muslims have mostly little knowledge of their religion has not been confirmed, according to the 310-page investigation published on Tuesday. It is based on 29 biographical interviews with delinquent Muslims in Austria.
Why Islam is so immune to reform
Aslan, who is a professor of Islamic Religious Education at the University of Vienna, emphasizes that the “intensive examination of theological topics” represents a turning point in their lives for many respondents. His conclusion: “Regardless of their religious knowledge, a radicalized person sees in theology an opportunity to give meaning and structure to their lives.” It is interesting to note that the majority of the respondents come from observant, religious Muslim backgrounds and that their foundations in Islam already existed before their radicalization.
“The radical individuals are the only true Muslims”
Salafism is understood by those affected as a holistic concept that governs all areas of life. Radical milieus provide logistical support and help spread Islamic and Jihadist thought. A central role was played by certain mosques and religious authorities: “Persons with a higher theological knowledge function as authorities and play a central role in the spread of ideology,” the study
It is important that the process of radicalization is not only a demarcation from secular Western society, but also from the majority of Muslims. “The radical groups and individuals see themselves as the only true Muslims,” the study said.
The social environment is perceived as rotten, democracy is rejected, the West is declared the enemy of the Muslim world. The 18-month empirical study was supported by the Austrian Ministry of Foreign Affairs.
A recent study on the jihadist youth scene in Germany had come to a different conclusion. According to this, radicalized youths know very little about Islam and construct their own world outlook in an unreflective way.
According to the study, young people who are in a critical phase of life are especially vulnerable. Triggers could be, for example, experiences by parents, death in the family or drug use. “The jihadist appeal provides them with places where they belong and the chance of a new start exactly where they are not aided by society,” says the violence researcher and study supervisor Andreas Zick.
However, the study of the University of Bielefeld pursued a different approach and had analyzed WhatsApp chat protocols of a Salafist youth group.
John A. Marre says
The motivating influence is Islam. Islam is the ideology that tells its followers to kill and conquer.
Bob says
Islam – the same motivating force that has been beheading for 1400+ years. Nothing has changed!
blitz2b says
“Islam plays a greater role in radicalization,”
. “… No sh!t Sherlock…”
mortimer says
The motivating influence in Islam is AL WALAA WAL BARAA: allegiance to Muslims and hatred directed towards kufaar.
Al Walaa wal Baraa has been called the ‘true image of the practice of Islam’ by Islamic jurists.
‘AL BARAA’ is Islamic Apartheid, Shunning of Kafirs and their Culture.
Al BARAA is subdivided into Al Bughoud = Hatred of Kafirs ‘for the sake of Allah’ or Al Mu’adaat (hatred) is the opposite of Al Muwalaat (love of Muslims), it is:
– To Hate
– To keep distance from
– To be enemy to
– To desert
– To decline to help
– To disrespect
– To put down
– Not to ally with
– Not to support
Allah ordered Muslims to have Baraa (to be cleansed) from the kufaar and from kufr and shirk.
-Imam Abdul-Latif ibn Abdur-Rahman Rahimullah said, “It is not possible for someone to realize Tawheed and act upon it, and yet not be HOSTILE against the mushrikeen. So anyone who isn’t HOSTILE against the mushrikeen, then it cannot be said that he acts upon Tawheed nor that he realizes it.” [ad-Durar as-Saniyyah 8/167]
mortimer says
CONTRARY to the lying ‘narrative’ of smug, know-it-all LEFTARDS, i.e. that Jihadists are ‘ECONOMICALLY DEPRIVED AND MARGINALIZED by society’, it turns out that most Jihadists come from stable, happy middle class families and that they not have good educations, but good prospects for a successful career.
The Marxists ‘economic grievance’ narrative/explanation of jihad is 90% or more incorrect. The Jihadists are on the whole motivated by a METICULOUS study of the JIHAD DOCTRINE. In the process, these young university-age Jihadists also learn to be meticulous PRACTICING MUSLIMS who observe many, compulsory, daily rituals unknown to and ignored by most Muslims.
Most JIHADISTS today are very well-informed, meticulous, PRACTICING Muslims. They understand both their duties in RELIGIOUS RITUALS and their POLITICAL DUTIES as JIHADISTS.
Komakech says
It is the marxists who hold ‘economic grievance’ and they try to project it on others. Marxists suffer from an intense murderous envy that is actually a mental illness. They long for bloody revolution whence they will engage in mass murder of those they deem ‘better off’.
PRCS says
“The radical individuals are the only true Muslims”
Unless the author is referring to Islam’s core tenets, its radix, its root, the notion of “radicalization” is just euphemistic pap.
Note: German newspapers often refer to “the Salafist scene”, as though it’s a fad–like having a multicolored mohawk haircut or such.
mortimer says
Agree with the nuance raised by PRCS. The word ‘radical’ is NOT a synonym of ‘EXTREMIST’, but actual means more ‘fundamentalist’ or ‘foundationalist’ or even ‘pioneerist’.
The Salafite movement is the puritan movement of Islam or back-to-the-basics movement of Islam. Salafism is ‘RADICAL’ or ‘FOUNDATIONALIST’.
‘Salaf’ refers to the ‘pioneers’ of Islam in the first three generations that followed Mohammed. The Islamic Reformation has occurred (much to the chagrin of many Western elites) and it is the SALAFITE MOVEMENT of Wahhab (Wahhabism) in the 18th century which gave birth to Salafism.
mortimer says
Danish researcher Tina Magaard, Ph.D. concluded that Islam is the most warlike religion. After three years analyzing the original texts of ten different religions, Tina Magaard concluded that the Islamic texts stand out by encouraging terror and violence to a larger degree than other religions do. She stated that ‘Islamic texts encourage terror and fighting to a far larger degree than the original texts of other religions. The texts in Islam distinguish themselves from the texts of other religions by encouraging violence and aggression against people with other religious beliefs to a larger degree.’
“What is striking is not in itself that one can find murderous passages in the Islamic texts, as such passages can also be found in other religions. But it is striking how much space these passages take up in the Islamic texts, and how much they focus on an us-and-them logic in which infidels and apostates are characterized as dirty, rotten, criminal, hypocritical and dangerous. It is also striking how much these texts demand that the reader fight the infidels, both with words and with the sword. In many passages, Muhammad plays a central role as one who encourages the use of violence, whether it comes to stonings, beheadings, acts of war or execution of critics and poets.”
Tina Magaard finds it particularly objectionable that so many Islamic scholars in her opinion knowingly fail to disclose these facts, and use their positions of power to create specific standards for what you can say. Often, they also blame racism, rather than objectively stating that extremists actually find justifications for using violence and threats in Islam’s holy scriptures.…
billybob says
While that report sheds light on Islam, the author either doesn’t understand “other religions” or disparages them in order to maintain a shred of respect by the leftists. She says “Islamic texts stand out by encouraging terror and violence to a larger degree than other religions do.“. She says Islamic text encourage violence against practitioners of other religions “to a larger degree” (than other religions). Though she studied 10 other religions, she give the impression that all religions are violent to some degree, but Islam takes the cake. I beg to differ. There is no violence in Christianity, for example, if you are familiar with the teachings of Christ. Perhaps Christianity is outstanding in the field because of its emphasis on peace and love. But from reading that piece, you would never know that the difference between Christianity and Islam are like day and night.
Hugo Lindum says
Christian texts include the violence of the Old Testament.
Jain texts contain no violence.
Richard says
“Germany: New study shows that Islam plays greater role in “radicalization” than previously realized”
A “greater role” ? I thought Islam played no role whatsoever according to Obama, Merkel, western leaders, our useful idiots and free press.
The Boston Bombers, the night club shootings, the Christmas shootings, London, Manchester, Paris, France, Nigeria, Kenya, Mumbai, The Philippines, Madrid, Germany, etc etc…people who are rich, poor, many races, what could be the common thread? Now that is a tough one to figure out.
Richard says
Not to mention Australia and NZ
“Sydney Bomb plot could have killed 412”
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/world/news/article.cfm?c_id=2&objectid=11899096
“Kiwi Isis supporter’s graphic slaughter videos ”
http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=11897307
RationalVoice says
Germany is in the last chance saloon with regard to its growing Islamic menace.Will it wake up and get rid of Merkel and her party or sleepwalk into her fourth term of office in the coming election.
History does not set a good precedent for the likely response !!!
M. V. says
If things progress as they have been, I think that Merkel and Hitler will be on equal footing in our history books.
marina says
So now can we expect that Germany would wake up and actually do something about the muzzie problem? Radical imams and mudslime trouble makers need to be deported. Mosques should be razed if found to be preaching violence. If Germans are stupid enough to vote Merkel again then Germany is finished.
Sam says
“Germany: New study shows that Islam plays greater role in “radicalization” than previously realized”
Really!!!!!!!!!!!!
Will this disease of willing ignorance of ISLAM ever be cured? I have my doubts anymore.
JW_Reader says
Professor Aslan makes lot of sense – compared to his American cousin, the other foul-mouthed Clown Aslan, professor of hellucination and B.S. writing.
mortimer says
Well said. Reza Aslan is a fantasist.
gravenimage says
Reza Aslan is a Taqiyya artist.
DogOnPorch says
Put this one in the “Well, duh!” pile.
Ric says
Merkel has thrown Germany and its citizens under the foot of Islam. Those of other EU states are of the same bent, determined to continue to deny that radicalization is inherent within the Muslim worldview.
The power-brokers and overlords of the UK and other Western Democracies, also, suffer from the equivalent delusionary perspective. Then, one must examine and expose not solely Islam, but those of the radicalized left who are hell-bent on the undermining and ruination of Western Civilization. A tandem of political radicalization, Islam and the radicalized left, whose inclination are similar, yet diverse.
Diversity is an anathema to both, those of Islam and the Marxists. Both apparently have not come to this realization; they are not compatible with faith or politics. Those of a leftist intent seemingly are not cognizant of their allies intent. Leftists will find themselves deemed Infidels whether the kowtow to Islam or not. In truth, they will be, in all likelihood, the first to feel the honed edge of the sword.
Merkel’s has placed a death-warrant on Germany’s head. Others of this visionless gaggle, the apologists, and appeasers to this Cult of Nihilism will suffer the same fate. Studies of radicalized Islam and or Leftism mean naught to these flaccid and irresolute Western leaders.
Halal Bacon says
After reading this…”help I have fallen and can’t get up” comes to mind after falling off my chair /sarc
lebel says
Islam plays a role but there are other factors as well. The article mentions another study which came to a slightly different conclusion. Whatever the case, it is good that these things are studied, compared and their results critically evaluated.
Aslan is a Muslim name btw so it could all be Taqqiya, or kitman or Murana or etc..
Malon says
The other study was paid by a group that WANTED the said result. We always have to look for the customer. While Pew per se is a globalist institution.
And that Aslan’s results are Taqqiya isn’t possible. By a muslim Taqqyia is only use for to “promote” Islam.
gravenimage says
lebel wrote:
Islam plays a role but there are other factors as well…
………………..
And that’s why people of all faiths and creeds become violent Jihadists…oh, wait…no, they don’t…
Nigel GFF says
These studies, what age groups are examined? Is their a difference in ‘motivation’ between say 15-19 and 20-25 years old etc? Youths… I don’t think so, for example …
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4753162/Three-Musketeers-terror-group-guilty-plotting-attack.html (Naweed Ali, 29, Khobaib Hussain, 25 and Mohibur Rahman, 33,).
There are many examples of the not so youthful disaffected murderers.
Sarah says
So how much did these stupid studies cost? What other IMPORTANT things were disregarded as a result of the time, money and resources poured into some idiotic research to determine the bloody blatantly obvious?
Its pretty incredible how many people don’t have a goddamn clue about Islam – and that includes Muslims.
I was talking to a 20 year old male this week, he was a refugee who had been in detention on Christmas Island for 6 years and had just been released into the community here (his boat came before we clamped down and re-instituted our boat people laws – so thanks a fucking lot Kevin Rudd)
Anyway, he was an Arab Muslim. One parent Palestinian, one parent Jordanian and the family had been living in Pakistan and did the whole ‘lets go illegally to Australia’ bit. This kid has spent his entire life being a Muslim, he knows nothing else. You would think, he’d have – at the least – a decent grasp on the basic fundamentals of his religion.
We got onto the topic, during our discussion of sin. He is having trouble adjusting to Australian life (surprise surprise) and he’s scared he’s going to go to Hell for doing certain things like going to nightclubs and for wanting to have sex with women and all that stuff.
I mentioned about predestination and how technically, its not really a sin since Allah has predetermined his path anyway – and all he’s doing is following the course Allah laid out for him until he dies and presumably goes to Paradise.
I was explaining that to try and make the idiot feel better. I was exasperated by his ignorance and his insecurities, but I’m not inhumane, I felt bad for him – especially given how badly he was clearly struggling with all of this. So here I am, trying to make the stupid fool feel a little less stress about making ‘mistakes’ when it comes to his religion.
He had no idea what predestination was. I had to explain it-in great detail. I had to explain to a 20 year old male Muslim who is smart enough to be currently studying a university degree (and who had fantastic English) what the hell predestination even was – and then show him how it all ties into Islam – as a core fundamental part of his bloody religion.
Imagine that guys. Me the Islamaphobe lol, educating a Muslim on their own stupid religion – TO MAKE THEM FEEL BETTER ABOUT THEMSELVES – (oh the intense, intense irony I felt here!) because despite 20 years of being fed Islamic nonsense by everyone around him, he doesn’t even understand one of the key fundamentals to his own beliefs.
That bought home to me, more than anything else could – just how ignorant and uneducated so many Muslims are about their own faith. Its not an excuse, there is no justification for not bloody knowing what it is that you believe in -and devote your entire life to, but gee it explains a lot.
I’m still shaking my head, its Saturday morning as I write this – that conversation happened Wednesday afternoon and I still feel that stunned bemusement at realizing that he had no bloody idea of what it was he is devoted to. Its practically criminally stupid.
gravenimage says
Germany: New study shows that Islam plays greater role in “radicalization” than previously realized
……………..
No sh*t, Sherlock.
Actually, it could have been much worse–at least they didn’t quash the results of this study.
andra says
On the original text in the WELT.online you could see that most commentators were not at all surprised that Islam and terrorism are closely connected.
John Forbes says
Hard to comment as this is so obvious ! ISLAM & its hate teachings are behind all of the attacks !
What is NOW the big question is what is MERKEL going to do about this ?? More excuses ? Consult SOROS or Zukergurg on how to stifle the news??
Baucent says
“The social environment is perceived as rotten, democracy is rejected, the West is declared the enemy of the Muslim world.”
A very usual feature seen in jihadists from Western countries, yet ignored by researchers and academics as it doesn’t fit their pre-determined theory, that poverty and lack of jobs is the root cause.
Henner720 says
We all know it swed3s and germans bub bub bub.german not exactly experts in assesing bad ideologies nazi fullblown n now islam. How can a cønservative intelligent mat. Fys orofessor, get so eco feministic transgender collectivistic crazy to bring – from free will- these fault programmed subjects into the getman machine. Obama ownes her.it has to stop.
Tom says
One need not look any further than this statement to know where the radicalization is perpetrated:
“Assimilation is a crime against humanity. There is no moderate or immoderate Islam, Islam is Islam. The mosques are our barracks, The minorets are our bayonets, The cupolas our helmets, and the faithful our soldiers.” Tyyip Erdogan, President of Turkey.
RichardL says
Vienna and Austria are in Germany?
moeped says
In an unrelated story, another study by the same think tank determined that water is wet.