The Western establishment media is portraying Muslims entirely as the victims of the violence in Myanmar. Reality is not so simple. The Rohingyas actually began this present conflict: AP reported on August 25 that “Ethnic Rohingya militants in western Myanmar launched overnight attacks on more than two dozen police and border outposts, leaving 71 people dead, the government said Friday, in a significant escalation of their armed struggle.” If they were not waging jihad against the Myanmar government and non-Muslims in the country, there would be peace.
“Dozens of Hindus Killed in Maungdaw: Relatives,” by Nyein Nyein, The Irrawaddy, September 5, 2017 (thanks to Lookmann):
SITTWE, Rakhine State – Eight-year-old Muni is one of the sole survivors in her Hindu family, after eight of her relatives were reportedly killed by Muslim militants one week ago in Kha Mauk Seik village, some 40 miles from downtown Maungdaw, in northern Rakhine State.
The girl had left her family to work in the home of a friend, Mina Kumari, also in Maungdaw Township, six months earlier.
Through an interpreter, Muni told The Irrawaddy on Sunday a statement that was echoed by other relatives and a Hindu community leader in Bangladesh—that she had heard her parents, grandmother, newborn brother, sisters and brothers-in-law had been killed.
One of her elder sisters is among eight women who said they were initially abducted by militants from the Arakan Rohingya Salvation Army (ARSA), but now sheltering at a relief camp in Bangladesh’s Kutupalong District. Following ARSA attacks on 30 police outposts on Aug. 25, the Myanmar government declared the group a terrorist organization.
According to aid workers, Bangladesh is also now hosting some 87,000 self-identifying Rohingya Muslim refugees who have fled northern Rakhine State since the Myanmar Army began renewed clearance operations in Maungdaw following the ARSA attacks.
They join hundreds of thousands of Muslim refugees already in the region, displaced after an earlier round of attacks in 2016.
An additional 11,700 Buddhist Arakanese, Arakanese subgroups, and Hindus have been internally displaced, with many taking shelter in monasteries in the state capital of Sittwe, and Ponnagyun and Kyauktaw townships.
Bangladesh’s The Daily Star reported on Sept. 1, that around 400 Hindus had left Rakhine State for Bangladesh and were staying at makeshift camp in Kutupalong, alongside displaced Muslims.
More than 500 Hindus are also taking refuge at four temples in Sittwe, partially supported by a government relief team, according to community leaders in Sittwe.
The Daily Star said that the displaced villagers estimated that more than 80 members of their communities in Rakhine State had been killed by unidentified armed men.
As journalists are barred from the conflict zone, The Irrawaddy spoke to religious leaders and relatives of the deceased in Sittwe.
Villagers who arrived in Sittwe on Sunday told The Irrawaddy that they believed around 70 residents of three communities—Kha Mauk Seik Taung Ywar, Kha Mauk Seik Yebaw Kyar, and Ohtein (also known as as Fakirabazar, Riktapara, and Chikonchhari respectively)—had been killed.
“The news about Kha Mauk Seik was heard on Saturday, and they are so desperate. They have no family members left to take care for them,” said U Maung Hla, the vice chairman of the Rakhine State Hindu Council, referring to 8-year-old Muni and another girl—16-year-old, Kajali, who told The Irrawaddy that since she left Maungdaw four months ago, she had lost nine relatives….
Caroline says
Islam truly is a curse on the world. The Rohingyas are not able to co-exist in peace, they are doing as their religian instructs them.
The Burmese government are to be commended for refusing to submit to aggression against their people.
Jim Conch says
Yes, Islam and Mohammad are definitely boils on the arse of humanity.
dumbledoresarmy says
Here in Australia we have foolishly accepted ‘Rohingya’ ‘refugees’ who are to Bengali Muslims as the so-called ‘Pooooor ‘Palestinians’ [TM] are to the Arab Muslims.
One ‘Rohingya’ Muslim went and set fire to the waiting room of a bank, by pouring petrol on the fioor and igniting it. He himself got burnt, but he damn near succeeded in killing the people who were waiting there – the only reason he didn’t manage it was a combination of their good luck, and the speed with which ordinary citizens nearby reacted to give assistance.
There was another case where ‘Rohingya’ Muslim ‘refugees’ were working in a provincial town in Queensland. One of them *murdered* another – **cutting off his head** (surprise, surprise, this seems to be a popular killing method, among Mohammedans, along with stabbings). It is unclear why; however, having read some of the news reports, and seen accompanying photos of the murdered man’s family, I wondered whether the dead man was murdered on suspicion of being, or having become, insufficiently Islamic – his wife was not wearing hijab, not even a headscarf (whereas all the ‘Rohingya’ propaganda photos I’ve seen in the news, all the women have been ‘covered’).
gravenimage says
DDA, I wish I could say that any of this surprises me. *Ugh*.
RonaldB says
What’s not to like for Muslims? The Rohingyas wipe out the Hindus and take control of the land for Islam. If things go badly, the Hindus fight back and win, the Rohingyas claim refugee status and get a golden ticket to the West.
In fact, it is high time for Western countries to stop letting in hoards of refugees, legitimate or not, and allow these countries to sort out their own affairs. Myanmar is pretty isolated from the rest of the world. It’s government is oppressive, of course, but one advantage is that they pay minimal attention to the UN, the Court of Human Justice, and the myriad NGOs when Myanmar handles subversive or rebellious groups (Muslims).
dumbledoresarmy says
The majority of Infidels in Burma are Buddhist rather than Hindu.
As far as I am concerned, if all the Muslims in Burma/ Myanmar shove off to Bangladesh, that’s a damn good idea; and if Myanmar convinces them to do that, by giving them a kick up the backside, I can understand why. I am wary of Mohammedan sob stories: Mark Durie came across an Arabic proverb, “tamaskan tatamakan” which he – a linguist – translates as, roughly, ‘show a victim’s face [and] take over”.
I am very happy to take the Karen Christian refugees from Myanmar; there has been intra-infidel conflict in Burma in which the Christian – and Buddhist, too! – Karen and Chin non-Bama minority people-groups have been badly treated. But I don’t want even *one* ‘Rohingya’ Muslim in Australia.
A good deal would be for Bangladesh – bankrolled by the wealthier OIC states – to resettle the Muslim ‘refugees’ from Myanmar. And Myanmar and India could quietly arrange to offer asylum to the remaining *Infidels* from Bangladesh – mostly Buddhist and Hindu, some Christian – all of whom are treated more or less badly, and whose position is likely to grow even worse, over time, because… ISLAM.
gravenimage says
+1
Ronny says
You are right. If these Rohingyas Muslims sincerely wished to live in peace, there will be no problem of any kind. Islam only want to conquer non-Muslim lands by illegally sneaking in and settling down there for eventual demographic conquest.
dumbledoresarmy says
It’s called al-hijra. There is an ex-Muslim, under the nom de plume ‘Sam Solomon’, who has set it all out, clearly and precisely, with lots of quotes from the relevant Islamic texts, in a book called “Al-Hijra: The Islamic Doctrine of Immigration’.
Many societies have used migration as a weapon historically – demographic ‘flooding’ has been used by China, for example, to overwhelm the Tibetans and the Mongolians, and is currently being used by them against the Uyghur Muslims – but only Islam has a carefully laid out – and sacralised! – cult ‘game plan’, and has been using it for 1400 years. (It is the concept of hijra that underlies, for example, the ‘transmigration’ system in overwhelmingly-Muslim Indonesia; the reality is that large numbers of Muslims have moved, or been moved, to areas of Indonesia that were, historically NON-islamic, in order to Islamise them; and the ‘host’ populations have been overwhelmed, displaced, dispossessed, exploited, and abused by the incoming Muslims – this is what is going on in West Papua, at present).
dumbledoresarmy says
It’s rather ironic, re China, that *there* the Muslims of Sinkiang are being *subjected* to what one might call a Chinese ‘hijra’. And they don’t like it! But it’s exactly what *Muslims* have done to non-Muslim populations, for 1400 years. Let’s just say I dont’ feel very sorry for them.
Jenny H says
I don’t feel very sorry for them either.
gravenimage says
Yes–invading others is *sacralized* in Islam.
R Russell says
Dar al Islam is on its way. But do many people care?
Our governments are more interested in staying in power than dealing with the problem. They don’t seem to have much love for the their children and grandchildren or they would tackle Islam head on.
Vic says
Very tough issue to resolve for the Burmese, majority Buddhist country, with Christians and Muslim minorities. It appears they were living in peace for a long time. At what point did the Buddhist start persecuting the Muslims? Why? Among westeners there seems to be little understanding of the history and how the Rohingya came to be in Burma. Some claim they settled in Rakhine and other areas of Burma in the 9th Cent. Others claim they came from Bengal State, India during the 20th Cent. during the English colonial period. Why do the Buddhists think that the Muslims don’t just want to be given citizenship and recognition as a minority with voting rights, but rather they want to take over the country? And according to the international community: Where did the Burmese Buddhist get that crazy idea?
Here is an analysis of the situation by the Brookings Institution… https://www.brookings.edu/blog/up-front/2017/03/20/peace-in-myanmar-depends-on-settling-centuries-old-ethnic-conflicts/
Interesting take, but still seems no one has touched the bottom line… What has occurred to get the situation to the present state? No one appears to want to touch the Islamic ideology that underlies the issue.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
“Muslim communities scattered across the country have existed for centuries, generally living peacefully among their Buddhist neighbors.”
This quote is from your Brookings Institute article. It’s pure taquiya bullshit. When Buddhist monks, arguably some of the most pacifistic people on the planet, are forced to arm themselves then it’s clear that the ROHINGYA HAVE NO PLACE IN MYANMAR!
dumbledoresarmy says
The reality is, iSLAM.
The end-game for Islam is Total World Domination.
That is why the ‘rohingya’ conflict is unresolvable except by total expulsion of these mohammedans – adherents of the Cult of Blood and War – into already-ruined-by-Islam Bangladesh.
If ALL Infidels currently still remaining in Bangladesh – there are Hindus, Buddhists, and Christians, all of them indigenous, but ALL of them under unrelenting merciless pressure from the surrounding Muslims, and their numbers (as a percentage of the population) have steadily dwindled, ever since 1947 – were to flee and be received into, say, India and Myanmar, and if ALL Muslims from Myanmar were booted out in to Bangladesh, and then.. the border was closed, by Myanmar, and relentlessly and ceaselessly policed, and any Muslim who tried to cross it, got kicked right back to where they came from, that is about the best outcome that can be hoped for, in the short to medium term. Or even in the long term; because ONLY mass apostasy, permanent apostasy, of ALL the Muslims would make it possible for them to accept to live alongside other groups without trying to dominate and subjugate them; and realistically speaking, although as a Christian I pray ceaselessly for the liberation of Muslims from their Death Cult, their Religion of Blood and War, I don’t see wholesale apostasy of Muslims happening anytime soon. I’m 54. It won’t happen in my lifetime.
gravenimage says
Vic wrote:
Very tough issue to resolve for the Burmese, majority Buddhist country, with Christians and Muslim minorities. It appears they were living in peace for a long time.
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Muslims rarely live in peace.
The awful truth says
I thank Jihadwatch for this story. You can never win with Muslims at present. They’ve formed a terrorist groupie there called ARSA that sounds like Arse.
Anne Smith says
The Muslim BBC interviewer Mischal Husain got very shirty with Aung San Sui Ky the leader of Burma/Myanmar when questining her over the fate of the “poor” Rohingyas.
Ang San Sui Ky – who really does k now what she is talking about – refused to be browbeaten by our BBC resident Muslim proselytiser Husain and tried to explain that the Rohingyas are really the cause of the trouble and not the victims.
Result – BBC, once very fond of fawning over Ang San Sui Ky, has now totally dropped her from their news coverage and instead fawns over the Rohingya and the perceived “plight”.
gravenimage says
Yes–I’m glad to see Ang San Suu Kyi standing firm here.
She’s getting enormous amounts of flak for not pretending that ravening Muslims are victims.
Native jo says
This is the same story we heard in the 90s when they claimed the serbians were commiting genocide against muslims. Everyone believed them, NATO was sent in to fight the Serbs and later tried to broker an agreement where nothing the u.n. offered the Muslims was good enough.
Muslims keep wearing out their welcome in host counties. It’s not about being racist for the sake of being racist, its about being sick and tired of a group of people who refuse to act like civilized humans and evicting them because of it. Muslims have earned their reputations.
Anne Smith says
Too true. We always thought it was mad of UK to wade in on the side of the Muslims. John Major has a lot to answer for, but that is the price;you pay for electing an ignorant fool as Prime Minister.
lebel says
“If they were not waging jihad against the Myanmar government and non-Muslims in the country, there would be peace.”
Interethnic conflict is common in Myanmar. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_conflict_in_Myanmar
The army has been fighting armed groups for a long time (Shan state anyone?). In this case, one group is Muslim and thus jihadwatch will inevitably undertake selective reporting to make the victim look like Bin Laden. How Christian of you Mr. Spencer.
The real concern is that jihadi groups will try and take advantage of the situation for their own benefit.
gravenimage says
So Muslims slaughtering dozens of Hindus makes Muslims victims? How does that work in lebel’s mind?
And notice he considers it un-Christian to criticize the murder of Hindu people. Unclear how that works, either.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
The Canadian news network CTV has, for the last four days, been focused on what they call “the ethnic cleansing of the Rohingya in Myanmar.” The story is showing nowhere else, not even the CBC. This story is being reported (and arguably pushed) by one of the CTV’s main news readers, Omar Sachedina. Omar is a Vancouver born Ismaili. The reports are very critical of Myanmar and paint the Rohingya as hapless victims of ethnic cleansing. So this shows that even an apparently moderate, well behaved Mohammadin is still going to help defend/push the hijra.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Because the UN came out yesterday condemning Myanmar, last night the CBC aired a report done by Nahlah Ayed. (She is the child of two Palestinians. One of her promo photos actually has her wearing a keffiyeh!) Her report was, of course, biased. So now Canadians get their news on this story from two Mohammadins. There is no counter argument published by any of the Canadian MSM.
The good news is that because of all the media hype over Texas, DACA and NAFTA there is little room for this story. The great unwashed probably won’t take much notice of the UN’s protestations. Let’s hope that Myanmar can gets itself to a satisfactory place regarding its border with Bangladesh before foreign political pressure can have its effect.
Thein Maung says
INFORMATION JIHAD OR TAQYIYA:
JIHADI TERROR IN RAKHINE STATE, MYANMAR
(Deception by global Muslim countries and organizations (OIC) and western “regressive left” mass media with complicity from UN, International Organization on Migration (IOM), WFP and “human rights’ organizations )
Bengali Islamic (so called Rohingya) terrorists joined by local Muslims are killing Buddhists and Hindus by the thousands in Rakhine state, Myanmar. Myanmar army (Tamadaw) has not been deployed to counter islamic terrorism or even protect the Buddhists and Hindus. Only a small police for exists to protect the Buddhists and Hindus, and the police stations themselves have been under constant attack. Buddhists and Hindus have left their ancestral homes and villages and sought refuge in towns that are also under siege by the terrorists.
Yet the Bengali islamic (so called rohingya) terrorists are portraying themselves as victims and gaining unquestionable acceptance from western mainstream media (AP, reuters, BBC, NPR, New York Times, LA Times, Washington Post, etc..). Western mainstream media (regressive left) have failed to report that UN and western NGOs under the control of islamists and OIC have been supplying provisions to the Bengali islamic terrorists. These provisions were accidentally discovered by local people in the mountainous area in the training camps of Bengali islamic terrorists.
The political arm of the terrorists (muslim ummah or caliphate) with finance from your petro$$ located in Riyadh, Ankara, Karachi, London, New York, Kuala Lumpur, etc. have prepared all types of misinformation and fake news and distributed around the globe. Muslims are taught in their “holy books” to employ deception called “Taqyiya” in jihad. Thus, even Breitbart came out supporting the Bengali islamic terrorists.
Previous fake news produced by muslims have been debunked time and again. Yet they still resort to the same tactics – Taqyiya.
https://www.scribd.com/document/138218972/Manipulative-Deceptive-Fraudulent-Media
IF YOU BELIEVE THAT BENGALI ISLAMIC (SO CALLED ROHINGYA) TERRORISTS, THE PERPETRATORS OF TERROR IN RAKHINE STATE, ARE THE VICTIMS ….. THAN, GIVEN ENOUGH CASH AND “VIRGINS” I COULD BELIEVE THAT NAZIS TOO ARE THE VICTIMS OF HOLOCAUST …..
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Hear, hear! The analogy is very apt. Mohammadins always cover their violence with a shroud of victimhood.
dumbledoresarmy says
They even have an arabic proverb to describe the tactic – tamaskan tatamakan – “show a victim’s face [and] take over”.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Thanks dumbledoresarmy! I’ll put that info into my notes. Every piece of info helps when a know-nothing virtue signaler is trying to you intimidate you into silence.
gravenimage says
Thanks for that, DDA–another ugly phrase to add to my glossary of Muslim savagery.
dumbledoresarmy says
Rev Doctor Mark Durie – who is a linguist – is the person who came across this particularly telling little item.
https://counterjihadreport.com/2013/11/21/from-pakistan-to-the-streets-of-oxford-understanding-the-ideological-foundation-of-sexual-abuse-in-islam/
(There is a very useful video lecture embedded within the article you’ll find at that link; I will add that I have seen Dr Durie presenting that same lecture, in person – i.e. not on video, but in a room with a powerpoint).
Excerpt:
Excellent point made at 17:46 (that is, at the 17th minute of the embedded video):
Screen Cap:
“THE IMPORTANCE OF CULTURE
“Theology impacts culture through language:
“Tamaskan tatamakan = “Show a victim’s face, and you will take over”. The theological roots of this saying are complex the cultural habit clear and simple.
“Dr. Durie:
“Just to give you an example, there’s a phrase in Arabic, “tamaskan tatamakan” = Show a victim’s face, and you will take over”.
‘Do you understand what that means? Act the victim, and then after a while, you’ll take over the other person.
“So we are interacting. **I pretend that I’m in a bad situation and I’m suffering. You have pity on me and when the money comes, I destroy you. Ok? That’s part of Arab culture. It’s an Arab phrase. It has a number of different variants. It’s well known in Arabic. It’s just what you learn when you learn Arabic.
“I can explain how that’s based in Islam. **That’s what Muhammad did and it’s part of Islamic theology.** [my emphasis – dda]
” It’s very well grounded. It has complex theological background to it.
“But you don’t have to study Islam to be shaped by ideas, just learn to speak Arabic. It’s impossible to translate that easily into English.
“It’s not an English concept. It’s almost repugnant to us that it is part of Arabic culture because **the religion has colonized the culture and has determined the shape of the culture.** [my emphasis – dda].”
gravenimage says
Muslims will take advantage of our goodness and compassion to conquer and mass murder us.
gravenimage says
Myanmar: Muslims murder dozens of Hindus
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These poor people. Yet–as noted–all too many in the West believe that Muslims are the victims.
Stan Lee says
The people of Myanmar must go about their need to preserve the peace in their country, and it is obvious that Muslims there seek to dominate the country while giving no thought to lives of the non-Muslims there.
Islam feels satisfaction for the pain it inflicts upon non-Muslims, or for that matter anywhere Islam contacts any other religion. Myanmar must pay no attention to foreign news reports stating that non-Muslims initiate attacks upon Muslims. The directives Muslims are obliged to fulfill are specified in their quran and/or via instructions from their mosques. Those instructions are meant to kill or conquer.
Danforth says
“The Religion of Peace” be damned!
How is it that all the atrocities committed in the name of Islam, the prophet Muhammad and Allah are not recognized for what they are? And that is the worldwide genocide of non-Muslims by Muslims.
I simply do not understand what appears to be so clear to so many, yet still gets a pass by those who can make a serious difference.
mo says
And the other side never reported. Is it because the Muslim Rohingya killed 120,000 and displaced 240,000 Buddhists in 1944 in the Rakhine state. Could it be that Islamist separatist movements have waged military campaigns in the area over the last 100 years?
Edward Vaughn says
Just the slightest amount of research will reveal that the “innocent” Rohinga butchered 50,000 Burmese during a rampage in 1942. “Those who forget history are doomed to repeat it.” Nothing new here. Muslims attack and when retaliation happens they cry victim. Does no one study history any longer?
Andy says
This is appalling. Terrible! How cruel these people are of the so called religion of peace!
UNCLE VLADDI says
The disgustingly globalist Ottawa Citizen has been running a serial smear campaign against the Burmese government and of course in favour of the “poor oppressed Rohingya” muslims for the last few days, every article written (surprise surprise) by some muslims on their payroll. They just can’t stop lying all the time!
UNCLE VLADDI says
All Religions Are False: Your Gods Do Not Exist!
http://unclevladdi.blogspot.ca/2017/09/all-religions-are-false-your-gods-do.html
alex says
As usual in the minds of Western journalists, the Muslims are always the victims.
Edward Paul Campbell says
During WW2 the Rohingha Muslims grabbed thousands of abandoned British rifles: raped, murdered and burnt down the villages of 40-50,000 Bhuddist neighbours, instead of the British instruction to use the weapons to fight the invading Japanese. Commonly known as the Arakan Massacres. Later, the Buddhists fought back and killed as many of the Rohingha. Setting a pattern of tit-for-tat reprisals and revenge. Muslims were mostly in favour of the invading fascists rather than the democratic Allies during WW2. The Bhuddist people, like an Asain elephant, have long memories.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arakan_massacres_in_1942
Rudranarasimham Rebbapragada says
Divide and Rule Policy:
In my analysis, USA is involved in this sectarian warfare and is giving financial/military assistance to rebel group called ‘ARSA’. USA is involved in another regime change campaign in Burma which seems to be similar to campaigns in Republic of Yugoslavia which resulted in partition of that country.
This US involvement became apparent while I watched a TV news report in which American journalist obtained interview with ARSA rebel leader on his mobile phone device. The US news media remained silent on atrocities perpetrated by the rebel group while providing extensive video images of Rohingya Muslims injured by Myanmar military operation. Muslim rebels are using ethnic cleansing to consolidate their hold and claim for Burmese territory.