“The Las Vegas attack was carried out by a soldier of the Islamic State and he carried it out in response to calls to target states of the coalition. The Las Vegas attacker converted to Islam a few months ago.”
“Las Vegas Shootout Live: 50 Killed, ISIS Claims Responsibility,” The Quint, October 2, 2017 (thanks to Yaakov):
An active shooter fired at an outdoor concert crowd in Las Vegas’ Mandalay Bay Casino area. At least 50 people died and 400 were injured in the shooting, that was later claimed by ISIS. The roads leading to the Vegas strip were shut by the police. The gunman was shot down at the 32nd floor of the Mandalay Bay hotel. The Nevada sheriff identified Stephen Paddock as the suspected gunman in Las Vegas shootout.
Islamic State has claimed responsibility for a shooting that killed at least 50 people and wounded over 400 in Las Vegas early on Monday, and said the attacker had converted to Islam a few months ago.
“The Las Vegas attack was carried out by a soldier of the Islamic State and he carried it out in response to calls to target states of the coalition,” the group’s news agency Amaq said in reference to the US-led coalition fighting the group in the Middle East.
“The Las Vegas attacker converted to Islam a few months ago,” Amaq added….
PaulM says
Gee, what shock eh? NOT!!! This will get fluffed over too as some demented loner who was just suffering from a broken heart and Trump-ism.
John W says
Still a bit bizarre to me that a 64 year old white dude would convert to Islam. Not saying he didn’t. It’s just not the norm.
Terclinger says
He did it for the broad.
Hidden Mole says
Marilou Danley. Orginally, maybe from Indonesia. Indonesia a moslem country.
gravenimage says
She is Filipino.
gravenimage says
Look, I am *no* fan of Leftists. But the idea that the average woman living in a retirement community and “interested in leftist causes” is urging guys to mass slaughter innocent people is just ridiculous.
Cynthia in California says
Agreed. I know many women in their 60s on up (quilting community), and the most they’ve done, so far as I know, in support of their leftist beliefs is to knit pink “kitty-cat” hats and send checks to causes they wish to prosper.
Mass murder is *nowhere* on their lists of leftist ideals.
Doghouse Riley says
Cherchez la femme.
Greg says
His girlfriend was muslim. Nothing strange.
gravenimage says
Confirmation? I have heard that she is Catholic.
Dawn says
As soon as the news broke I saw comments saying he was a white Chritian extremist and it was comments by Muslins. Just because he was white doesn’t make him a Christian. He can’t be Christian if he converted to Islam. The media will not call it what he truly was and will not tell the whole truth.
TL says
Islam affirms that Jesus is the messiah promised by Jews to theirselves. So Islam is a sect of Christianity, which is not defined so narrowly that it excludes untrinitarian variations on the populist theme which animates both Trinitarianism and Muhammadism.
Terclinger says
BS.
Ken J says
Not a very Christian reply, so I use Barbra Streisand…lol…
Rev G says
Islam is not Christian. Islam denies the divinity of Christ, categorizes acceptable lies, and endorses a psychopathic pervert and murderer as the perfect man. Not even a distant cousin to Christianity. Islam is satanic, their pseudo-god is Satan himself, the god of this world, and greatest of deceivers.
Raja says
Rev G,
Thank you for your patient reply God bless
samdav7 says
LOL @ TL
The way you think sounds like a baby playing with his poo a lot of poo ?
LD says
Eh. That’s bull crap. No it doesn’t it hates ‘unbelievers’ u moron
JawsV says
JW : TL is insane. Pay no attention to his moronic comments saying Islam is Christianity. He should be banned from this site.
LD says
Yup agreed. Robert. Do your job!
Raja says
JawsV and LD,
Nuts like TL may be bent on nut comments. Let us continue exposing his lies. Banning him won’t ban potential nuts like TL.
DZ says
Mohammadism has stuff plagiarized from different sources. It has nothing to do with Christianity apart from partially hanging on to its coat tails to justify its existence.
Their motto is ‘Theres only one God and his messenger is Mohammad.’
That’s a deliberate and targeted affront to the Christian God and putting Jesus some way down the list of importance from the ‘all-round decent guy’ Mohammad was.
Incomparable. I’d say…
Raja says
DZ,
Well said. Mod is incomparable to Jesus.He had all the attributes of Satan.as described by Jesus Himself.
ISLAM HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH GOD.
M says
You are undeniably incorrect. Islam is NOT a sect of Christianity. The Islamic version of Jesus is a perverted version of Jesus Christ of the Bible, so therefore they are not the same. Don’t you dare blaspheme the Son of God.
Janeatte says
Islam is a satanic religion come to destroy the humanity, muslims they created lies to defend Islam and the messenger of the Satan Mohammad.they should be a shamed from their self,from their religion,from their Mohammad,from their teaching and reject Islam and start to become human beings.
Julie says
Christians believe that Jesus is the messiah, and Muslims do not. They believe He existed and he was a prophet, but the demons believe in Jesus. That does not make them Christians.
A.M.D Hanton says
This is not true, in Islam Jesus (Isa) is called the Messiah, please at least do some research before you attempt to pass on information. Robert Spencer has a reputation of being factual, try to keep this website free of missinformation, your own religious bias should not stop you from speaking the truth on a matter.
Islam does teach that Isa/Yeshua/Jesus is the Messiah, it denies he is God, and it also denies that God has a son, but it does call jesus the messiah.
LD says
U ain’t a real Jew sweetie. Don’t lie. Real Jews aren’t fooled by Mohammed stealing ideas from Jews and early Christians to try to convert them to Islam. We know what happened if they refused.
Are u happy being a JINO sweetie? Or are simply an inveterate liar and appalling defender of Sharia and deflector for extremist Islamists
gravenimage says
A.M.D Hanton wrote:
This is not true, in Islam Jesus (Isa) is called the Messiah, please at least do some research before you attempt to pass on information. Robert Spencer has a reputation of being factual, try to keep this website free of missinformation, your own religious bias should not stop you from speaking the truth on a matter.
Islam does teach that Isa/Yeshua/Jesus is the Messiah, it denies he is God, and it also denies that God has a son, but it does call jesus the messiah.
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Some Muslims do use the term, but the “prophet Isa” is not any sort of Savior–you should know that. So Muslims sometimes use the word, but not its meaning.
Jack Diamond says
Jesus/Isa is indeed referred to 11 times in the Qur’an as al-Masih, the Messiah, without explanation. In the Bible, the title The Messiah and the title Son of God are synonymous. Islam, in its cognitive dissonance, he can be called The Messiah and then be denied as the Son of God. The Qur’an also uses the title The Word of God for Jesus/Isa, without explanation, then tries to claim he is just a prophet, not what the title itself proclaims.
Isa is no Jesus Christ. He comes to proclaim Muhammad. He returns to break the Cross.
Sons of Liberty says
TL ,…THAT IS A BOLD FACED LIE ! Islam is the IDEOLOGY OF SATAN ! Jesus Christ is the SAVIOR of the WORLD , he DIED FOR OUR SINS . Muhammad is the prophet of Satan , he even said he felt he was being possessed BY THE DEVIL.
CasualMeme says
Islam says plainly that Jesus is not the Son of God. They also say he was never resurrected and that in the end He will come back to tell everyone thy were wrong and that Islam was right all along. Also, apparently he is cool wih having Christian’s heads cut off.
Islam has ZERO to do with Christianity.
A.M.D Hanton says
The Orthodox Jewish community would also claim that Christianity has nothing to do with Judaism, even though Christians believe that it is a direct continuation of the religion, in the form of a new covenant.
What the OP was saying I think, is that Islam is a branch of the Abrahamic group of religions, and this is true, from a historical and comparative religious studies standpoint Islam, Christianity and Judaism are all of the Abrahamic religious tree, regardless of members of the 3 groups disagreesing on theological terms. The Orthodox Jews do not accept the Christian addition, and the Christians do not accept the Islamic addition. Also even within Christianity itself their is a segregation, for example the evangelicals do not accept the Catholics as true christians and the catholics. The trinitarians do not accept the unitarians etc.
LD says
Thx for CONFIRMING u ain’t no Jew. No Jew would EVER consider the concept of a ‘new’ covenant. Ur a pathetic deluded replacement theologist jewhate racist is wot u r sweetie.
gravenimage says
A.M.D Hanton wrote:
What the OP was saying I think, is that Islam is a branch of the Abrahamic group of religions, and this is true, from a historical and comparative religious studies standpoint Islam, Christianity and Judaism are all of the Abrahamic religious tree…
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Well, yes–except for Islam rejecting almost all of the ethical teachings of Judaism and Christianity, and wanting to oppress or slaughter all of them, it is just the same…sarc/off
Wellington says
“So Islam is a sect of Christianity….”
One of the most idiotic comments I have read here at JW since I started posting here almost ten years ago.
A.M.D Hanton says
Islam is to Christianity what Christianity is to Judaism.
LD says
Complete utter drivel. Islam has NOTHING to do with Christianity. Whereas Christianity is rooted in Judaism and could not exist without its Christian rootes.
All original ‘Christians’ were Jews not least The lord of all true Christians , Jesús, who was a devout Jew till the day he was killed by The Romans
2000 yrs later Islam stole vast amounts of its ideas from Judaism – a bit like me saying I invented Mickey Mouse 70 yrs after Walt Disney invented him-and tried to convert Jews and early Christians to Islam. If they didn’t convert they were made dhimmi forced to pay extortion money / jizya or massacred.
gravenimage says
True, LD.
Terry Gain says
Islam is the antithesis of Christianity, you moron.
gravenimage says
TL–an avowed Fascist who hates Christianity (which he calls “Trinitarianism”)–wrote:
Islam affirms that Jesus is the messiah promised by Jews to theirselves. So Islam is a sect of Christianity, which is not defined so narrowly that it excludes untrinitarian variations on the populist theme which animates both Trinitarianism and Muhammadism.
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What a load of tripe.
The “prophet Isa” is *not* the Messiah–he is not a Savior at all–in Islam.
And his main role is in the last days, where he slaughters Christians who do not convert to Islam.
Claiming that his *killing Christians* makes him a Christian figure is utterly ludicrous.
A.M.D Hanton says
This is not entirely correct, in Islam Isa is known as the Messiah, I just want to point that out to readers who may be confused with some miss-information here in this comment thread.
The definition of Messiah may differ from a christians perspective though, but Jesus does hold the title of ‘Al Masih’ in the Qu’ran and Hadith. This is a literal translation of ‘The Messiah’ His divine status and “sonship” is not accepted in Islamic theology however, he is seen only as a human prophet, but this is also true in Judaism where the original concept of Messiah comes from. In Judaism the Messiah will also not be divine, but a mortal human.
Jack Diamond says
The title The Messiah is used without explanation in the Qur’an because Islam has none. It means the Son of God, which Islam expressly rejects. The same way the Qur’an calls him the Word of God, not understanding what that even means Biblically. Then it expressly denies what it means by calling him only a prophet and messenger of a greater one to come, Muhammad. By denying his role as Savior, denying his very crucifixion, let alone resurrection, and deciding he should return in the end times, to proclaim Muhammad and to revoke the jizya protection, so that the Christians can be murdered wholesale for rejecting the only religion Allah recognizes, Islam.
gravenimage says
Notice that A.M.D Hanton decided to gloss over that whole pesky “killing Christians” thing. No surprise there.
kiwikaffir says
Stupid is as stupid posts!
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
TL, does the “T” stand for Troll?
Jimdandi says
TL, you do not know what you are talking about. Get back in your Mommy’s basement and go to sleep.
Truthbearer says
Yes… it is too convenient… from an organisation that is known for supporting “The father of lies”… truth is the last thing they’d be promoting but they are certainly not adverse to using any situation to their advantage especially if it “glorifies” them !
LD says
Multi millions of white people are not Christian. They are often Christian haters or Jew haters but certainly not Christians
John Butler says
Steady. It won’t help to push this rumour until it’s confirmed if it ever is confirmed.
Ashley says
A voice of reason. Thanks, John Butler.
Yes, it is now being widely reported that Paddock recently converted to Islam. BUT these reports appear to spring from ISIS. ISIS is renowned for taking credit when disaster strikes.
Paddock’s residence is being tossed. Hopefully we’ll get some answers in due time…
Sons of Liberty says
If he did convert to Islam….. it WILL DEFINITELY BE SCRUBBED by the FBI and MEDIA. The FBI has just come out and said there is no connection to any terrorist organization. Isn’t that the same FBI , who said it was NOTHING TO SEE , when one of their OWN AGENTS sent a message that there were Muslim males taking FLYING LESSONS …but didn’t CARE ABOUT LEARNING TO LAND THE PLANE ! There were SO MANY …DOTS to be CONNECTED before 9/11 you can’t BELIEVE IT .
Sons of Liberty says
There was EVIDENCE CAPTURED in a Philippines terrorist raid YEARS BEFORE 9/11 , that said they had a PLAN to TAKE OVER COMMERCIAL AIRLINERS and FLY THEM INTO SKYSCRAPERS. I remember people in OUR OWN GOVERNMENT saying THAT WOULD NEVER HAPPEN !
gravenimage says
Stephen Paddock’s brother claimed his is ‘not religious’, but he admitted that he and his brother had not been close for some time.
carol says
If he was “not religious” then I’d guess he might be a candidate for Islam.
Sons of Liberty says
Let’s see ,…a CONCERT , with thousands of AMERICANS ,…in A CITY OF SIN , playing UNACCEPTABLE MUSIC . What in that scenario could possibly MOTIVATE someone ? A 64 year old man , running a retirement community ALL OF A SUDDEN decided to book a room in the Mandalay Bay Resort ACROSS from a CONCERT. It may not be true , but it sure is worth INTENSE INVESTIGATION.
gravenimage says
Yep–few places would be deemed more “un-Islamic” than a Las Vegas casino holding a musical concert.
mortimer says
This is lifestyle jihad. The Koran commands all Muslims to ‘enjoin good and forbid evil’ (Koran 3:110
Sharia law requires all Muslims to shut down venues where men and women mix unchaperoned, dances, concerts, nightclubs, bars, churches, etc. (https://islamqa.info/en/11403).
We are now all at risk whenever we attend a concert, nightclub, dance, party, bar or church service.
The jihadists are looking for crowds of KAFIRS to implement the Verse of the Sword, K.9.5 “…slay the idolaters wherever ye find them, and take them (captive), and besiege them, and prepare for them each ambush.”
Emilie Green says
If true, that would explain it all.
“So when the sacred months have passed away, then slay the idolaters wherever you find them [even if they’re in Las Vegas, & especially if they’re listening to haram music], and take them captive and besiege them and lie in wait for them in every ambush, then if they repent and keep up prayer and pay the poor-rate, leave their way free to them.”
– Quran 9:5
mortimer says
REVENGE – RETRIBUTION – RETALIATION – REPRISAL – VENGEANCE
“The Las Vegas attack was carried out by a soldier of the Islamic State and he carried it out in response to calls to target states of the coalition”.
Islam has a doctrine of VENGEANCE:
-K.11.173 “Believers, retaliation is decreed for you in bloodshed.”
-K.2.178 “O you who believe! Retaliation is prescribed for you in the matter of the slain.”
Steve K says
From what I recall ISIS doesn’t take responsibility for things they werent part of. please correct me if I am wrong.
Adam says
No doubt the FBI already knows or will soon know whether the claim is true or not, depending on what they found in his home and on his computer. A 64 year-old convert would be a bit unusual.
gravenimage says
A 64-year-old going on a shooting rampage is pretty unusual, as well.
Vice says
Hmmm… could be true, I mean what other possible motive could there be? Somehow the deranged madman idea doesn’t appeal to me, since this was meticulously planned.
But I agree with the calm minds here; let’s wait for the facts to come up. Just because ISIS claims and celebrates it, doesn’t mean that are responsible for it. They could just be stealing credit.
Richie says
The left is running with the claim the shooter us a right wing white nationalist Trump supporter
Cat lover says
They always do until it turns out to be a Democrat leftist. Then the story is buried.
gravenimage says
No surprise there, I’m afraid.
Debi Brand says
Given, Islam will remain honored, legal, elevated, respected and thus, free to practice in our world; therefore, just to keep people mindful of the world they live in, our world deserves, posted everywhere, this warning: “Warning! Believers in the way of Muhammad operating freely in area. At your own risk, proceed in non-Islamic conduct.”
Logically speaking says
US sow so US should reap. This is a good revenge for the US bombing of Iraq.
Look like a bomb that has fallen on the US crowd : 50 killed n 400 injured.
Buddha had said no one can escape the Law of Karma.
Debi Brand says
Little doubt, if any, this was not executed under the Islamic law of retaliation.
Logically speaking says
Yes, u are right ! It was executed under Divine Law.
gravenimage says
The repulsive apologist for Islamic savagery “Logically speaking” is saying that giving Iraq a chance to become a free and democratic nation means that we should all be slaughtered. *Ugh*.
Logically speaking says
Your narrow thinking has ignored the existence of the Divine Law in action. After all the American bombings n killings has Iraq become a free n democratic nation??????? hahahahaha ! LOL.
It has became more chaotic n more killing esp.of the Christians.n the Sunni people.
gravenimage says
Note that the ludicrously named “Logically speaking” considers the slaughter of innocent people at a concert to be “Divine Law”–*just repulsive*.
Logically speaking says
With Saddam Hussein around, no such mass killing of Christians would not have happened. Evil people who caused his death are destined for hell.
Logically speaking says
America bombed “innocent” people so America’s “innocent” people also get killed.
The name “grevenimage” sounds stupid enough.
Pam Minnick says
Please tell me what is the karma going to be for all the beheading of Christians in Islamic countries by Muslims? How about Muslims stoning their own daughters and wives because the women were raped but didn’t have 4 men to stand up and say that’s what happened? Muslims are killing Muslims for not be Islamic enough. I bet you think Asia Bibi a Christian woman from Pakistan is getting her karma for drinking water that the Muslims claimed as only theirs to. Isn’t it funny how Muslims are always the victims, yet always in the center of everything world wide?? I know first hand how their minds work and it’s a very dark, cold, evil place in their heads, their blood is ice cold running thru their veins, everything about them is evil, but that’s what you get when they have been brainwashed for over 1400 years and by a dead man.
gravenimage says
+1
underbed cat says
I am sickened by this terror event, more so since it is my belief that this was a jihadist shooting, which has the elements of planning, knowledge of honoring veterans, a isis video calling for a Vegas Strip attack, many weapons for maximum carnage and support persons at his disposal. If it is true he is a recent convert to Islam, he used a western name to hide any suspicion by not using his muslim name that is chosen after converting to Islam. It appears they used his western name to stall or deceive knowing that claims by Isis would be denied, and as a further attempt to eventually make Americans defenseless. The real defenselessness comes from ignorance of the ideology that plays out across the world, hides under a false religion description and gets protected by major muslim organizations whose purpose it to keep people silent and submitting to the violence and fearful of racial slurs, when it is the doctrine that claims to be innocuous and peaceful, that is unless you study it and find the commands and obligations to deceive and to slay infidels where ever you find them .
This ideology must be removed from our western culture or we will not survive our appeasement.
Pam Minnick says
More people need to really get into their heads, I lied to a few Muslims, telling them that I wanted to convert and after they thought they really had me hooked they told me not to let anyone know I was a convert and to let everyone think I was still Catholic, but to defend Islam and to make people believe Islam is peaceful. They are out for one thing and that is to have the world living under Islamic (Sharia) law, that is their one and only goal, for them to rule the world. We can try to educate people, but as for the left, until something happens to them or someone dear to them they will defend Muslims.
WPM says
I love the MSM talk to the brother of the Vegas shooter his brother says he does not know{he has not talk to him in years} to get an opinion ,might as well talk to the stranger in the street . If he converted to Islam why not talk to the Iman of the Mosque , put the Mosque name and location on the news. Talk to members of the Mosque interview people he worked with ,live near interacted with. If he was the average old white guy they would talk to his neighbors his church, his clubs, his ex-wife , because he is Moslem the media run away and hid.
Debi Brand says
P.M stated: “…. I lied to a few Muslims, telling them that I wanted to convert and after they thought they really had me hooked they told me not to let anyone know I was a convert and to let everyone think I was still Catholic, but to defend Islam and to make people believe Islam is peaceful.”
And why would these Muslims P.M. mentioned instructed him so?
Because doing so, when such serves the advancement of Islamic influence, thus eventual Islamic ruling, is a basic sunnah in Islam.
As the follow attest:
Pam Minnick says
Here is the beginning of one coaching me on how she tries to convert people.
personally I have been around many different cultures and like a little of all of them but the people of Mexico have gotten very uppity going as far as getting others to claim they are Mexican to benefit in their tradition of having mexico city be the center of the latin world, they all pay tribute to Mexico. So if you say something negative about Mexico ALL latinos or hispanics become offended.Like us muslims pay tribute to the Mecca. Very few Americans are aware of this not only that but the cartels have provided safe passage to other nations so the Mexicans like to think they are the ”gatekeepers’.’ so that is what I mean by them getting more uppity with every passing year. Their policies have become very radicalized and racist.If Trump shuts down the border it will be war from the cartels and when that doesnt work the upper states of Mexico will be taken by the cartels and they will become a new nation.The things people dont understand is that the NWO wants a buffer zone between the US and Mexico everything is ripe for the taking and happening of this.Why do you think they seem to be helping the cartels?Duh undermine sovereignty! Trump is meant to be President and there is meant to be riots so that we will have undeniable proof to stomp out the undeniably backwards hateful enemies that have failed to conform to a peaceful and productive society!The NWo will slow down the birthrates of foreigners…. –american born need to assimilated to our society and it is already happening
If I were alot of smart preppers I would start getting prepared for the worst if American born dont all start to assimilated to Islam. you my sister need to tell all that Islam is only peace and love, all bad will go away, Islam and nwo will be only way that will bring peace for all.
RABIA TAHA
I did come clean once I got the truth from them, here is how one took it.
Aabzaari Jul 28, 2015
+Pam Minnick You might be heedless of my words but you will open your eyes soon and see us knocking on your door and wallahi you will be given the opportunity to choose between 3 provided options:
Basically…
1 . Jizyah.
2. Accept islam.
3. Die.
Today you see us as dirty desert monkeys, but by the name of the creator tomorrow you will see us as Royals.
Today you hear “Islamic state of Iraq and Syria” in the news
but insha’Allah sooner than you think You will come to hear “islamic state of the entire global civilization”… you might find me silly right now but please create a reminder and tick it off when the silliness becomes a reality.
You will see that the Muslim world has just started. Islam is coming to the world, insallah, Islam will spread on the whole world. And the democracy will be defeated, and so was Communism defeated, and all the other isms and schisms will be defeated, and the word of Allah will be supreme, inshallah. And Muslims are going to do that. And as Allah says in sura 3, verse 110.
We want the Islamic flag to be hoisted once again on high, fluttering in the wind, in all those lands that have had the good fortune to harbor Islam for a certain period of time and where the muzzein’s call sounded in the takbirs and the tahlis. Then fate decreed that the light of Islam be extinguished in these lands that returned to unbelief. Thus Andalusia, Sicily, the Balkans, the Italian coast, as well as the islands of the Mediterranean, are all of them Muslim Mediterranean colonies and they must return to the Islamic fold. The Mediterranean Sea and the Red Sea must once again become Muslim seas, as they once were.
The Muslims reached the gates of Vienna. Our eyes are on Paris, our eyes are on Brussels, our eyes are on London. We will not stop, as Muslims, until the whole world is governed by Islam. The Islamic movement will become a system of life under your nose. Your wives, French women, British women, the people of Europe, will live under the Islamic movement, even if you don’t like it. We will collect the jizya poll tax.?
we have no doubt in our plans as it’s proves to be huge, not only huge and big but also Solid it is. At this point you are probably laughing your Ass off, i can understand that, i would too if i were in your position today. What comes around goes around, Tomorrow don’t cry when you will be given an Absolute luxury of choosing between “Bullet” or “Knife”.?
Pam MinnickJul 28, 2015
+Aabzaari If you really think the US will just let you come to our country and takeover, then you don’t know the US very well. Obama won’t be in office forever.
Aabzaari Jul 28, 2015
+Pam Minnick I believe action does better than words. Why should we argue about this??. You say we will be destroyed. I say we will destroy. Let’s just shut up and see because surely the truth will be witnessed in the coming few couple year
All modern music including sexually explicit music of any kind is strictly prohibited and punishable by Islamic Sharia code of justice. Only Islamic songs are allowed.
Everyone there is looked at as a sinner, part of the lone wolf is to try and scare people and they think we will then apply Sharia law so the killings stop. Everything is about one thing, and that is getting the world under Sharia law, that is it. They don’t care if we don’t convert, they don’t want all of us to convert, they like their poll tax Jizya a tax paid by non muslims under Islamic law. They get recruits to do their dirty work. It’s all about brainwashing, finding the weak, lonely, lost, they can control these kinda people. I talked to these savages for 8 months, the funny part is all but 2 out of 9 contacted me I get 7 messages from Muslims all men, I found the 2 females, was told to find some females to guide me on how to be a muslim woman. I have been thinking about doing it again, and this time saving everything I get from them, recording phone calls, video calls, keeping all emails, messages, texts. I only received 3 out right death threats. I’m from Texas, and I carry, I told them I’ll be waiting for them.
Debi Brand says
Amen, ubc, across the board there.
gravenimage says
“Las Vegas attacker converted to Islam a few months ago”: Islamic State claims responsibility for attack
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As soon as I heard about this I wondered if it was another Jihad terror attack.
Last year, the Pulse Nightclub shootings in Orlando became the worst shooting in American history. Now Las Vegas is the worst.
And yet, many idiots *still* discount the severity of Jihad terror.
More:
The Nevada sheriff identified Stephen Paddock as the suspected gunman in Las Vegas shootout.
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Stephen Paddock–I wonder what his Muslim name was?
LR says
When I first heard this in the news, I wondered if it was just their idea of fun…Jumpin’ on the death and destruction bandwagon.
This is a very weird one…We don’t know much for sure yet…
I do wonder about unknown nut cases that will want to keep upping the anté and kill more people than the last terrorist attacker, or the last violent nut case.
Evil bastard had the program down though…Kill completely unsuspecting, defenseless innocents in a large crowd, while having fun…We are ‘lucky’ he didn’t kill more…
Bless all of you who lost loved ones. My prayers are with you.
dumbledoresarmy says
The claim that he had converted to Islam should not be automatically discounted by investigators.
One must remember that there is precedent, in the canonical texts of Islam, for the concept of a convert to Islam who *conceals* the fact that he has converted, perhaps for months or years. Who then acts as a ‘sleeper’ or ‘mole’.
And all a person needs to do to convert to Islam is recite the shahada in front of a Muslim witness (I can’t recall whether more than one Muslim witness is required).
*Could* this man have had face-to-face contact with even one Muslim in the course of his daily life, anytime within the past five to ten years? Had he ever travelled to a Muslim country, or to a country like Britain or France with a substantial Muslim community?
And.. whether *this* man *was* a convert concealing his conversion, then acting in response to the generally-broadcast ‘call to jihad’ (which need not have been received via a personal communication face-to-face or in a letter or email or phonecall nor even through reading at a jihadi – or *counter*-jihadi website; all he needs to do is turn on the TV or read a newspaper article that reported that Islamic State has been calling upon Muslims everywhere to do this or that), or whether he wasn’t, the fact is: there *will* be any number of ‘Nuaym bin Masuds’ out there, across the non-Islamic world. Guaranteed. Because there are not a few humans, raised in non-Islamic families and societies, who *are* darkly drawn to the spiritual and psychological ugliness of Islam, to its supremacism and megalomaniacal dreams of Total World Domination; the license it affords to rape, to rob, to deceive, to terrorise and torment and ritually murder anyone who fits its – very broad – definition of ‘lawful prey animal’; to its total and totalitarian Rule of Life. And a certain type of mindset – the same mindset that, perhaps, animated those who became concealed communist agents – would be attracted by the Nuaym bin Masud template. To join a deadly Gang but to outwardly conceal that membership, all the while looking for ways to *destroy* the family/ society/ belief system that you once belonged to. How thrilling!
Jack Dawkins says
His girlfriend is indonesian Muslima.
Jack Dawkins says
Also, this jihad attack will not be sourced and corroborated by the media. The truth – if it comes out at all – will be in Drive and drabs. And the reason is fear of copycats.
There are millions of armed civilians in the USA, and this kind of attack (unlike 911) takes only 1 person.
Jack Dawkins says
Dribs and drabs
Hudson says
ISIS said they were going to target Las Vegas a couple of months ago. Why WOULDN’T anyone believe them if they claim the actual attack??? Ignorant.
Raja says
How can a 64 year white man convert to the vile Islam? We are familiar with teen converts.
Hopefully, (my wishful thinking) the story is incorrect. The West should use its might to ensure that there is zero conversion to Islam because once a convert always a terrorist or a terror cleric’s/Islam’s stealth disciple.
A.M.D Hanton says
Wisdom does not always come with age, sometimes a young fool just becomes an old fool.
gravenimage says
Yes–not every older person is wise–just as not every young person is a fool.
Raja says
Very sad moment in the US history. In the theater of PC, globalization and all related absurdities this kind of things are waiting to happen and Muslims have exploited this culture to their hilt.Tragic indeed. They dare not do this in third or second world nations where it is savagery for savagery, Their strategies is different out there (in second and third world nations).
Frederick says
Seems to me a more plausible explanation is that he isn’t the shooter at all. My thought is that his connected room(s) were needed, some ‘people’ broke in, killed him, started shooting and escaped before the police arrived. Some video appear to show multiple guns firing at the same time from both windows.
It’s far too early to tell exactly what happened.
common sense says
Remember years ago Jihadi terrorist organizations wanted to recruit whites and turn them. No beard, white, easy for MSM to defame Christianity and so on down the line. Not saying it’s so here just food for thought. BTW- with the left crime is common intelligence is not.
Green infidel says
C’mon, guys… the shooter lived in a town called Mesquite (Spanish for mosque), and opened fire in a place called Mandalay Bay – named after a city in Burma… so obviously something to do with the Rohingya?
gravenimage says
Mesquite, Nevada, is a small town in eastern Nevada of about 17,000 people. It is named for mesquite–a type of tree which grows in the American southwest and in Mexico:
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It is *not* named for a Mosque.
But why would it be? The town was founded by Mormons in the 18th century. There is also a Mesquite, Texas–which is not named for a Mosque, either.
The Spanish word for Mosque is “Mezquita”–a word which looks similar, but has an entirely different derivation.
Of course, none of this means that Paddock may not have been a Muslim convert. There are quite a few Muslims–and several Mosques–in Las Vegas itself.
Logically speaking says
Methinks we have to look at the spiritual side of this massacre.
America had bombed many countries, killing thousands of people. These dead people had souls which had turned into avenging spirits which are waiting for a chance to attach to certain individuals to commit suicide, or cause mass murders. Here I am not referring to the jihadi who were kor’aan inspired.
How could a rich, retired white man did such a heinous crime ???? The answer is a spiritual one. At 64 n being a good gambler, he has a lot to live for but he did the unthinkable.
gravenimage says
Repulsive apologist for savagery “Logically speaking” wrote”
Methinks we have to look at the spiritual side of this massacre.
America had bombed many countries, killing thousands of people. These dead people had souls which had turned into avenging spirits which are waiting for a chance to attach to certain individuals to commit suicide, or cause mass murders. Here I am not referring to the jihadi who were kor’aan (sic) inspired.
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Is the grotesque “Logically speaking” claiming that dead Jihadists took over Stephen Paddock’s body and forced him to murder innocent people at a concert. How is that either “logical” or “spiritual”?
More:
How could a rich, retired white man did (sic) such a heinous crime ???? The answer is a spiritual one. At 64 n (sic) being a good gambler, he has a lot to live for but he did the unthinkable.
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“Logically speaking” may consider mass murder to be “spiritual”, but decent people most assuredly *do not*. *Ugh*.
Jan III Sobieski says
Mesquite Nevada, where the killer lived, is a town of 17,000 people and has three mosques. It is not inconceivable that he was converted to Islam by one of the mosque’s imams. And just because the MSM is stating that the killer acted from psychological problems it does not mean that he would not also be an Islamic devotee. Nine out of ten criminally insane individuals prefer Islam.
gravenimage says
Jan, the “nearby” Mosques are *in Las Vegas*. There are no Mosques in Mesquite itself.
This does not mean he is not a convert, though.
Politicianaphobia says
We may be losing the war against Islam. Too many politicians world wide, religious leaders, wealthy and just plain, damn, stupid puppets willing to kill, kill. kill in the name of Allah are working for a global world. I may crawl under my bed and stay there, not too many people are thinking about the future way of life. Leave TL on this site, when he is here, he is probably not thighing some poor,sweet, little girl.
Politicianaphobia says
The religion of peace/ piece has sure stirred up a lot of hate in this world.
Politicianaphobia says
ie. I HATE ISLAM.
Brian Hoff says
He might not believe in God at all. There is no evidence that he convert to Islam ecpect from than antiIslam buttinboard with posted remark saying he is muslin because he target than county muise event I know quite afew non muslim who strongest hate county muise. His girlfriend is born moslim doesnot make her than moslim who practice the faith.
Jack Diamond says
Actually, it is the Islamic State that claimed he is Muslim and that he acted on their behalf. Not the “antislam buttinboard”. Not even the residents of County Muise.