“The meeting occasionally grew heated. One man wearing a Rolling Stones T-shirt challenged Younus about the definition of ‘jihad.’ ‘Jihad is a war on the infidel, and I am the infidel,’ he said. (The man declined to give his name to The Washington Post, calling it the ‘lying press.’)”
Yes, the Washington Post is indeed the lying press, and jihad is a war on the infidel: “Jihad means to war against non-Muslims” (Reliance of the Traveller, a Shafi’i manual of Islamic law, o9.0)
“Younus said there were many misconceptions about the Joppatowne retirement community.”
Have you ever noticed that Islam itself is beset by “misconceptions”? People seldom, if ever, seem to be able to get it right. Whenever a non-Muslim notices that Islam is not a religion of peace, or catches a Muslim in a lie, we start hearing about “misconceptions.”
“No, he said, the word ‘jihad’ doesn’t necessarily mean ‘armed struggle.’”
Not “necessarily”!
“We are not trying to be unlikable.”
A large number of the Ahmadi Muslims I’ve encountered, particularly their U.S. spokesmen Qasim Rashid, Haris Zafar, and Kashif Chaudry, seemed to be trying very hard to be unlikable.
“We are trying to be transparent.”
Yeah, sure you are. Transparent like this: “Younus was joined by Mansoor Shams, an Ahmadi Muslim from Baltimore. He said he’s patient with questioners but bristles when people insist the Koran is a violent text. ‘It’s such a disrespect to me and my [Marine] uniform,’ Shams said. ‘If you ask a question, at least take my word for it.’”
That’s transparent? Shams just wants us to take his word for it that the Qur’an is not violent? Are we allowed to read it for ourselves and evaluate his claim for ourselves? Are we allowed to notice the “kill them wherever you find them” verses (2:191, 4:89, 9:5), the beheading verses (8:12, 47:4), and the verses calling for warfare against non-Muslims (8:39, 9:29, etc.)? Apparently not. We have to take his word for it.
“‘I have some trepidations, I admit it,’ said David Miceli, 71, wearing a blue ‘Las Vegas’ hat to honor the victims of the mass shooting there. ‘But the man looked me in the eye and said “I’m telling you the truth.” I have to give him the benefit of the doubt.’”
Good luck with that.
“Maryland development under fire after selling homes only to Muslims,” by Justin Wm. Moyer, Washington Post, October 24, 2017:
JOPPATOWNE, Md. — Dueling legal complaints and allegations of Islamophobia have marred an unfinished retirement community in Maryland after homes were sold only to Muslims.
Planners say interest in the River Run development was strong before stalled county permits halted construction. Some elected officials and residents complained that the community violated fair-housing laws.
Stuck in the middle are Muslims who put down deposits to live in the quiet neighborhood overlooking the Gunpowder River — and non-Muslims who already live there.
The River Run development is slated for about 35 wooded acres in Joppatowne, Md., a community of about 12,000 people 20 miles northeast of Baltimore. More than 56 homes were approved for the lot more than a decade ago, but the project fell into disrepair after just four homes were built when a previous developer folded.
Then, last year, 46-year-old Faheem Younus, an infectious-disease doctor and an immigrant from Pakistan, teamed up with a different developer to build a retirement community for older Ahmadiyya Muslims, adherents of a branch of Islam who preach tolerance and face repression from other Muslims around the world.
“There are many Jewish, Christian communities — we’re not reinventing the wheel here,” Younus said.
After a nationwide search, Younus settled on River Run. With a planned mosque and views of the river, the development offered what was advertised as a “peace village” for people 55 and older.
“This will be a community of 49 spacious brand new homes (Villas) for Ahmadi Muslims with a dedicated mosque within walking distance,” read a website this year advertising the community. That language was later removed, replaced with an update that touted an “audio feed from the adjacent mosque” for the daily call to prayer — before that language also was removed.
The plan to market to Muslims proved successful, Younus said, and 22 units were sold within months after a lottery was held among Ahmadis who wished to buy them.
Some elected officials and residents, however, complained, saying the planned community violated fair-housing laws. Others questioned whether their town should open its arms to a neighborhood initially designed for Muslims.
Real estate agent Gina Pimentel filed a complaint with the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development last month, claiming she couldn’t get information about the River Run units because Younus was “unlawfully privately marketing and selling only to Ahmadi Muslims.”
In an interview, Pimentel said she is not worried about Muslims living in the community, but about her business. She can’t earn a commission if she can’t sell homes, she said, and she was also concerned that lenders charging market interest rates might be cut out by Islamic rules against usury.
“It’s not about religion for me,” she said. “My husband’s Puerto Rican . . . do you want to live with 106 Puerto Ricans?”
Elected officials entered the debate, including Maryland Del. Richard K. Impallaria (R-Baltimore County), who held two meetings about the community last month. Impallaria said the controversy is not about faith, but fairness.
“The leading problem on this project is the housing discrimination,” he said. “We really don’t need a group of people coming in that’s going to isolate themselves from the rest of the community — come in and do an end run around state, federal, county laws. It’s not a good way to start out as a good neighbor.”
At several town hall meetings, Younus and two fellow Ahmadis responded as about 25 residents asked about mortgages, diversity and Islam.
The meeting occasionally grew heated. One man wearing a Rolling Stones T-shirt challenged Younus about the definition of “jihad.”
“Jihad is a war on the infidel, and I am the infidel,” he said. (The man declined to give his name to The Washington Post, calling it the “lying press.”)
Younus said there were many misconceptions about the Joppatowne retirement community. River Run is open to everyone, he said, and was initially marketed only to Ahmadis because demand was high, which meant further advertising was unnecessary. Its planned mosque would now be a community center, he said.
Yes, Ahmadi Muslims can have mortgages, he said. No, he said, the word “jihad” doesn’t necessarily mean “armed struggle.”
Younus acknowledged “mistakes along the way” in marketing River Run.
“We have to go out and tell you who we are,” he said. “We are not trying to be unlikable. We are trying to be transparent.”
During a public meeting at a firehouse, Younus was joined by Mansoor Shams, an Ahmadi Muslim from Baltimore. He said he’s patient with questioners but bristles when people insist the Koran is a violent text.
“It’s such a disrespect to me and my [Marine] uniform,” Shams said. “If you ask a question, at least take my word for it.”
Reactions among the crowd at the community meeting were mixed.
“I have some trepidations, I admit it,” said David Miceli, 71, wearing a blue “Las Vegas” hat to honor the victims of the mass shooting there. “But the man looked me in the eye and said ‘I’m telling you the truth.’ I have to give him the benefit of the doubt.”
But Pat McLaughlin, 81, worried Younus was “pushing an agenda.”
“He never answered my question,” she said. “Why did they sell them in secret?”
That question is part of a lawsuit that Gemcraft Homes chief executive Bill Luther, the developer who worked with Younus, filed last month in U.S. District Court in Maryland against Harford County officials. It alleges the county stopped issuing building permits for River Run, halting construction and complicating the sale of existing homes purchased by Muslims.
The suit alleges the county’s delay is “motivated by racial and religious animus to keep members of the Islamic faith from purchasing lots and exercising their religious freedoms.”
Harford County officials declined to comment, citing the pending litigation, but told the Baltimore Sun last month that the project is being treated like any other and permits are on hold until issues such as storm water management are resolved. Impallaria, a defendant in the suit, likened Younus’s outreach to a bank robber who claims he is just “an inexperienced person who filled out a withdrawal slip wrong.”
“They had a conspiracy,” Impallaria said. “They already carried it out by selling homes to a select religious sect. I’m not buying their story now.”…
notmoron says
Is there any place where muslims are not causing problems?
The skunks are everywhere
Renee says
BRAVO!!!!
Saipan Sam says
The Washington (Com)Post strikes again….
andra says
Welcome to the world which is on the merge of being islamized. The arguments are the same as everywhere. “We are only a religion of peace and want to live our religion”.
The Ahmadi Muslims are those guys who say that eating pork makes gay. They are those who buy out East Germany at the moment in order to built their mosques there although it is said that there are hardly any muslims in East Germany. Don´t believe them a word, it is all about conquest and settlement. Remember that muslims believe that each spot they have ever been to belongs to them.
Guest says
They’re pushing the envelope in cities like London and Paris, using public parks and streets to bow down to Mecca 5 times a day (yeah that’s right – living off our welfare systems) to see what they can get away with. It’s “conquest through migration” and it’s coming to a neighborhood near you.
gravenimage says
And while the Ahmadi do not wage violent Jihad, they are still for the imposition of brutal Shari’ah law. If you want amputations for petty theft and rape victims stoned to death, they are just as pious as orthodox Muslims.
Yoda Dunbar says
One day, the masses may just rise up and do something these traitors who are supposed to act for and on our behalf, you taxes etc are being used to push Islam so it is the dominant religion and very soon
And the Laws are on their side as is the UN etc, there is an agenda and most refuse to see it
God bless you guys and Gals you need it, won’t be long and we in Australia will be seeing the same thing
There is an invasion going on right now and we are the enemy, to the Gov’ and to the left
AnniLinn says
Yoda, simply stated, ver true.
gravenimage says
If the average person understood more about Islam, they would just vote in saner leaders.
Guest says
Reading how Soros money is buying those unelected fat bureaucrats at the EU (he recently infused 18 BILLION euros) to do his bidding and flood Europe with millions of migrant rapists who right now are voting it into LAW that sovereign countries will have to take them in, with no quota ceiling Haven’t we learned from history? The idiotic West is opening the floodgates to them yet their agenda has NOT changed throughout history. WAKE UP PEOPLE. And btw – why are we so disgusted at Harvey Weinberg et al. but refuse to discuss how ISLAM TREATS WOMEN? Insanity. Hypocrisy. Winston Churchill saw it coming.
I wonder about leftists says
The excuse of all those leftists that they are sleeping, not being awake, has run out.
Muslims are buying your nicest houses (may by Soros), put up shops everywhere, Mosks. You leftists and governments all over (are they still Americans) are the must stupid, suicidal, idiotic, cowardice, there are and will ever be.
The consequences are for you and we will remember it! And not only the “americans, but Europeans, Australians, Canadians. Have they convinced you how nice it will be with Soros, the illuminati and consorts in Agenda 21? Oh, HOW YOU HAVE BEEN MISLED, you paved your and with that our way to the grave, you fools + so cowardice. That last one, that pains me the most.
JawsV says
The scourge of mosks in America and Europe.
brane pilot says
Tolerance is a one way street when it comes to Muslims in Western countries.
The facts are in. Enough with these people.
Time is running out before the damage to our societies is irreversible.
Manny says
That’s redlining! Redlining is against the law. If anything Muslims should not be concentrated in any area. They should be spread out and dispersed. We don’t want to encourage a Muslim ghetto or no go zones. We want them integrated and converted from that horrible religion. Dispersing is the best method of that.
gravenimage says
I don’t want Muslims here in the West at all. The more Muslims there are here, the more Jihad–violent and stealth–there will be.
rbla says
“We are not trying to be unlikable.”
“Why do you resist us?. We are only seeking to improve the quality of life for all species.”
_ Locutis of Borg
Westman says
The Borg turned humans into worker bees for the collective hive. Islam turns many humans into parasites upon dhimmis.
commonsense says
The community in question overlooks the Gunpowder River. No wonder it appeals to Muslims.
Voytek Gagalka says
‘But the man looked me in the eye and said “I’m telling you the truth.” I have to give him the benefit of the doubt.’”
He might not have his second chance to find out that he just committed the greatest blunder in his life! Bye-bye!
Mark Spahn (West Seneca, NY) says
Alas, clicking on the “Washington Post” link to check the original article leads to a notice that you cannot read it without paying money. So we have to depend on the excerpt shown here.
* “This will be a community of 49 spacious brand new homes (Villas) for Ahmadi Muslims with a dedicated mosque within walking distance,” read a website this year advertising the community.
What is a “dedicated” mosque? Dedicated to what? Are undedicated mosques preferable?
* “It’s not about religion for me,” she said. “My husband’s Puerto Rican . . . do you want to live with 106 Puerto Ricans?”
Why the number 106? And are all these 106 Puerto Ricans living in the same house?
Shmoovie says
Wondered as well about that odd line.
Shmoovie says
But they are “trying to be transparent”! ( heard that before.. and why need to ‘try’?)
Could be that ‘transparency’ had something to do with why the advertising/language re the planned adjoining mosque was changed then removed, and the mosque was finally renamed a ‘community center’.
Good to see there were some ‘phobes in attendance, willing to question Younus & Samms to the point that Samms and his uniform felt “disrespected”.
David says
All I can say to that picture is “Trick of Treat.” Hideous.
gravenimage says
Maryland development under fire for selling homes only to Muslims
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Kudos to the local Infidels for fighting this!
Charles R.L. Power says
This is housing not simply for Muslims but for Ahmadi Muslims, a variant of the faith considered heretical by all other Muslims precisely because they actually practice tolerance with other religions. Weirdly, they propagandize “for Islam” even though their version of Islam is about as typical as Mormonism is typical of Christianity. That said, you might not want to live too close to an Ahmadi mosque since the mainstream faithful might decide to blow it up even more enthusiastically than they would a church or a synagogue.
John Forbes says
THIS IS THE BRAVE NEW WORLD OBAMA WAS DIRECTING & HILLARY SIGNED UP FOR AFTER TAKING SAUDI CASH & SHE WONDERS WHY SHE LOST ???
SHE & OBAMA SHOULD BE IN PRISON NEXT TO HOOPER OF C.A..I.R & THE MEMBERS OF THE SOUTHERN POVERTY LAW GROUP & THEY CAN ALL WRITE MEMOIRS & COMMISERATE ON HOW IT CAME TO THIS !
IF TRUMP DOES NOT DEAL WITH THESE PEOPLE FREEDOM OF SPEECH & DEMOCRACY WILL BE UNDER FAR MORE & BIGGER THREATS THAN IT IS NOW & THIS IS A HORRIBLE STATEMENT !
Karina says
It is virtually impossible for Muslims to assimilate into any other land.
Their only goal is to invade and conquer.
The more you cater to them, the more they will demand.