“But the Forum Ukhuwah Islamiyah (FUI), who are part of the Indonesian Ulema Council – a body of Muslims that converse between the Indonesian government and the Muslim community – wrote to the stadium officials asking them to not let the gathering go ahead because they believed it would involve evangelism.”
Under Islamic law, Christians are forbidden to proselytize among Muslims, on pain of death. All the Forum Ukhuwah Islamiyah did was get this event canceled; it didn’t kill the Christians involved. They are “moderate” indeed.
“Muslim group makes Protestants cancel celebration,” Premier Christian Radio, October 24, 2017 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
A Muslim group in Indonesia have forced the cancelation of a Reformation celebration event, saying they were plotting to convert Muslims to Christianity.
The Reformed Evangelical Church of Indonesia had organised an open-air service at a football stadium in Yogyakarta, a city on an Indonesian Island. In their cancelation statement they called it ‘a national prayer service to mark 500 years of Reformation’.
But the Forum Ukhuwah Islamiyah (FUI), who are part of the Indonesian Ulema Council – a body of Muslims that converse between the Indonesian government and the Muslim community – wrote to the stadium officials asking them to not let the gathering go ahead because they believed it would involve evangelism.
They also threatened to disrupt the service if it went ahead.
The Christian organisers, led by the Reverend Stephen Tong, therefore cancelled the event “to avoid acts of intolerance”.
Police rejected the claim that hardliner pressure forced the cancellation of the service.
Yogyakarta police spokesman Yulianto said it did not go ahead because organizers did not have a permit to stage the event….
Peter Buckley says
No amount of violence or PR can stop the mass exodus from Islam currently under way in these muslim countries:
https://www.facebook.com/IamMuslimAndProud/posts/265512933558459
James says
FUI ? Not so much “Fess Up, Infidels” as “FU, Infidels”.
gravenimage says
Muslims never think anyone has the right to leave Islam.
R Russell says
May YHWH God be praised
Westman says
It is a certain indication that Indonesian Muslims have little confidence in Islam being the true religion when they are afraid that a simple exposure to Christianity will cause numerous defections. Such aggressive restrictions on Christianity can only be a self-recognition that Islam is inferior in its ideology.
Islam was born in a tribal identity environment and survives by couching its ideology in a framework of “us” (the big Umma tribe) vs “them”. Islam is sheer hypocrisy when Muslims cry “discrimination” because it is built on, and is the very essence of, aggressive discrimination against the unbeliever.
harbidoll says
me thinkith they do protest (get hysterical) too much.
John Forbes says
The so called extreme wahabi/salafi sect has been very adept at getting converts to practice violence against non believers !
I have found it quite strange that NEW CONVERTS to ISLAM are so anti Christianity while it was that very Christianity that protected them & the society that gave so many choices in life .
It may well come down to the fact that people respect STRENGTH & Not WEAKNESS !
The Christian Churches have lost faith & do nothing except appease now & stand for nothing !
The Destruction of the Christian Faith is quite a complex thing but has been helped & hastened by the MARXIST LEFT Frankfurt Group & in part the Soros Foundations !
It is a softening up for SHARIA introduction ,The END of FREE SPEECH & at a point in the not so distant future – the END OF WESTERN SOCIETY & DEMOCRACY !
Voytek Gagalka says
Yea, they are “moderate” cowards. Their Mohammedanism is so shaky, so fragile, that they are afraid of tiny, minuscule minority of Christians to be potentially converted to Christianity. Death for abandoning Islam, death for those who dare to proselytize among Muslims. Epiphany of Moderation.
RodSerling says
The Christian organizers of the event state, contra the police claim, that they did obtain a permit for the event earlier this year:
https://www.ucanews.com/news/muslim-protests-force-cancelation-of-protestant-celebration/80600
gravenimage says
I’m sure they do have a permit. But the Muslim state can ignore the rights of Infidels whenever it is convenient–as, for instance, when Muslims complain and threaten violence.
john spielman says
islam -the religion of the antiChrist
gravenimage says
“Moderate” Indonesia: Muslims threaten to disrupt Christian celebration, force its cancellation
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Yes–I was going to say they are “moderate” Muslims, since they didn’t outright threaten to murder these Christians. *Ugh*.
mortimer says
This prohibition shows that there is no equality in Indonesia.
Christians are prohibited from following their faith which involves ‘The Great Commission’ of Christ which is a commandment to make disciples of ALL nations.
Islam is supreme in Indonesia, with 87% of the population Muslim, in spite of the constitution saying there is equality.
Not just Christians face discrimination in Indonesia: Shi’ites are persecuted, Ahmadis are persecuted, Bahai’is are persecuted and atheists are persecuted.
Furthermore, the discrimination is STATE-ORGANIZED.
Human Rights Watch and Amnesty International found that the Indonesian government has been sponsoring migrations of Muslims from Java and other Muslim-majority provinces into Christian areas such as Papua, West Papua, North Sulawesi, West Sulawesi, Muluku, East Nusa Tenggara, and West Nusa Tenggara in an attempt to DISLODGE and overwhelm Christian and indigenous minorities.
gravenimage says
Yes–and Hindus are persecuted in Bali, as well.
Georg says
Hmm… A jovial Indonesian guy. Reminds me of that governor of Jakarta who was chased out of town and into jail by you-guessed-whom. Come to think of it, he was also a Christian.
skeptic says
Here’s the real truth on Indonesia as a “successful” Muslim country: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkVtAc-uWBw&t=1s
Tommy Peters says
Folks, allow me to tweak the good reverend’s press statement.
Running rights! For the side that holds to be civil, be reminded the amouco has ‘running’ rights. When it comes rushing at you in a frenzy, civilian steps aside. Much like ducking a random bullet, it underscores intelligence, not because the fury of the amuck is destructive but its tenure is brief.
Without giving up dignity, the civilian surrenders his right of way, his road and his chattel, not to mention his universal right to assemble to mark 500 years of Reformation which, incidentally, has aided and abetted his civility all this while.
Thing is, as he withdraws from the theatre he offers his detractor the ultimate insult by ‘respecting’ its right to rush at you in a frenzy. in that he demonstrates the civilian has no business or capacity to debate an amok, simply because his job description is to debate reason, common-sense and perhaps the joys of living, that are protected by consensus and reciprocity.
Folks, there you have it. Notwithstanding Martin may be spinning in his grave with our forced cancellation, our justification is defined by faith, and by faith alone, which spans 2000 years give or take, rather an event that occurred 500 years ago.
jude says
Moderate indonesia is always help up as a shining example of how all faiths can live together in peace. When will people take the blinkers off and see islam as it really is, a supremist, in your face demonic belief should never have been called a religion.
Ren says
How about cancelling the ramadan?
Lydia says
Well,… it IS ‘typical’ islam!
Karina says
Though I dislike and disagree with all tenets of Islam and the people who practice such vile beliefs, countries like Turkey or Indonesia should be regarded as just as dangerous as Saudi Arabia. The only difference is, they pretend to be modern and moderate, even though they clearly are not.
At least Saudi Arabia or Iran have never pretended to be moderate.