The idea is to bribe them into not waging jihad in Britain. This proceeds from the assumption that Muslims only wage jihad because they are poor and disenfranchised, and that giving them money and opportunities will end their interest in jihad.
That idea is ridiculous on many levels. The foremost why is that jihad is a tenet of Islam. The Qur’an directs Muslims to wage war against and subjugate the People of the Book (9:29). It doesn’t say, “Stop fighting them if they give you welfare money and a free house.”
What’s more, since the Qur’an directs Muslims to fight the People of the Book “until they pay the jizya with willing submission and feel themselves subdued,” the Islamic State jihadis who get these free houses will see them as a their due: it is natural and proper in the Islamic view for non-Muslims to pay for the upkeep of Muslims.
And it will not blunt their thirst for jihad. In fact, it will only make the jihadis bolder, because they will see how pathetically weak the British are.
Britain is finished.
“Council house ‘bribes’ for UK terror suspects: Returning ISIS fighters are to be offered taxpayer-funded homes and counselling to stop them carrying out attacks in Britain,” by Abul Taher and Martin Beckford, The Mail on Sunday, October 29, 2017 (thanks to the Geller Report):
Terror suspects including jihadis returning from fighting in Syria are to be offered taxpayer-funded homes, counselling and help finding jobs to stop them carrying out attacks in Britain.
The top-secret Government strategy, codenamed Operation Constrain, could even allow fanatics to jump to the top of council house waiting lists.
Official documents seen by The Mail on Sunday reveal that up to 20,000 extremists previously investigated by MI5 will be targeted with what critics last night described as ‘bribes’ aimed at turning them away from extremism.
The highly contentious nationwide programme is due to start next year, with police and cash-strapped councils hoping the Home Office will pay for it out of its £900 million counter-terrorism budget.
Last night, terrorism expert Professor Anthony Glees, of Buckingham University, said: ‘You can’t bribe people not to be terrorists.’
And Tory MP Andrew Bridgen added: ‘This sounds like a reward for being on a list of potential terrorists. You can’t buy people’s loyalty to this country.’…
Mac-101 says
If 98 year old privates who were concentration camp guards, accountants and medics are STILL being prosecuted, WHY aren’t these scum bags charged with crimes against humanity and given the Nurnberg Treatment?
Tom says
Those guys were WHITE!
wdbowden says
I wonder when the British people are going to come to their senses-n-kick these political failures out of power? WHERE have all the REAL British politicians gone-n-WHY are we putting up with these spineless-useless-traitors that are Hell-Bent on destroying OUR COUNTRY???????????//
kevin says
These terrorists will probably not bomb their new housing, just to show their appreciation.
MFritz says
Voting for another party will become a hate crime soon. Besides, there are no real alternatives in the UK. Well, except for one and I’m sure they would put her and her party down as soon as she becomes a thread to the political establishment.
And the elites WANT islamisation as it puts pressure on the population and an excellent scapegoat as excuse to get rid of civil rights – but doesn’t threaten the people of money and power.
Anne Smith says
Because there is no-one else. UKIP was the only party offering a real alternative to the limp Left wing Marxist dominated politics of Britain and the MSM weighed in against it, smearing and belittling it so that normal British people are convinced it is a party of racists and Far right extremists.
Nowadays, if you are a normal patriotic British person who wants to look after the people from your own country you are deemed a “racist” and Far Right, and most people just keep their heads down to avoid aggro, go to work and hope it will all blow over.
roger woodhouse says
Well its all just typical of our spineless British governments.Doing nothing that involves a radical solution to the problems facing this country is par for the course because it doesnt involve courage and commitment.When ever a ‘real’decision is required its so much easier to reach for the chegue book.Who could possibly object to that.
Andy says
The only thing the UK should give these returning Islamic State jihadis traitors is death and stop pussyfooting around with these traitors!
The BBC hates certain people.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ufnk0z45NZg
Letting Islamic State jihadis return to the UK is like ‘inviting the wolf to dinner’
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fqSf6ZwUh8I
J D S says
Because the stupidity in, not only the UK, but the whole of Europe, is a growing disease and their leaders, like in the U.S., have NOT studied the Koran or any of the ideology of islam. If leaders in The U.S. and Europe would ask Robert Spencer and others who are well qualified in understanding the global aims of Islamic leaders, then there might still be a chance for the free world to remain FREE.
TheBuffster says
They’ll never believe someone like Robert Spencer. They need to read the source texts to be able to believe it – and one really *should* read the source texts before believing something so sinister about an ideology, for the sake of justice. First-hand is the right way to go.
One should also go to the source texts before dismissing warners as alarmists or as bigots and haters, also in the interest of justice.
The problem is getting people to take the risk and the effort to go to the written source instead of asking alleged authorities who they suppose to be (or want to believe are) honest.
Obviously, if they do the first-hand work and find out that the warnings are based on Islamic texts – and are in context – then they’ll have to face being outcast from the in-group whose membership they’ve enjoyed. They’ll have to wear the false label of “Islamophobe” and be scorned and pilloried by the in-crowd.
The reluctance to take the risk of finding out the truth is strong.
Pet Charles says
By now it should be apparent that the narrative that US and its European allies created ISIS should have some traction. How can these same countries that hound African dictators for crimes against humanity, watch the atrocities committed by ISIS against humanity, and now all of a sudden don’t know what to do with “enemy combatants”? European leaders will keep playing Russian roulette with the lives of their people until the people circle city hall with their pitch forks.
gravenimage says
“Pet Charles” has made this claim before–that it is the West that is responsible for creating and waging violent Jihad. Absurd.
Benedict says
“UK to give returning Islamic State jihadis taxpayer-funded housing” –
“An appeaser is one who feeds a crocodile, hoping it will eat him last.”
Winston Churchill
Dacritic says
Which makes you wonder… Churchill, he’s British, right?
Pistophoclese says
All the British Government has to do is ship these bastards back to Iraq to stand trial like they did with Sadam. Let the people who they oppressed deal with them; they have rejected British citizenship by joining Islamic STATE and are not our responsibility.
Nigel GFF says
Sadly, I think there are many facets to this appalling idea, not least of which include, ‘do it anyone else just not to me’. And let’s not forget the nature of the scorpion begging a lift across the river.
Tom says
This is ridiculous and only feeds into Islamic supremacy that they insist upon recognizing.
Let their community bear the full responsibility of looking after these terrorist and if they refuse to do that then let these pieces of human filth live on the strrets and eat from refuse containers
No public money should go to these killers.
nicholas tesdorf says
These returning Jihadis will see these housing benefits as their Allah-given right and not as an inducement to Peace, but as an incentive for further Violence.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Quite right. This will be, and perhaps cannot but be, seen as the submission from fear of a weak and terror struck land of the dhimmi.
Jayell says
‘The top-secret Government strategy, codenamed Operation Constrain, could even allow fanatics to jump to the top of council house waiting lists.’…… Not only that, but they’ll get hold of large up-market properties in expensive areas so that these specimens can accommodate their oversized herds in a manner to which they think they’ve a right to be accustomed, at taxpayers’ expense. Just like some sort of nouveau aristocracy. And then it won’t be good enough! Except the taxpayers are all too aware that that isn’t why they should be paying their taxes. Which is why the Government have to keep it secret – but not for long!
R Russell says
Dhimmi’s again.
Stan Lee says
Apparently the UK authorities were so bent upon appeasement, that they overlooked the fact that prisons are “tax-payer funded.” This is what happens when a bunch of Pseudo-Conservatives and Socialists are in charge….and the Brit electorate put them in office, no less!
gravenimage says
UK to give returning Islamic State jihadis taxpayer-funded housing
……………………….
Oh, great–rewarding Muslims for waging violent Jihad.
What could *possibly* go wrong with that? sarc/off
LeftisruiningCanada says
“The idea is to bribe them into not waging jihad in Britain. This proceeds from the assumption that Muslims only wage jihad because they are poor and disenfranchised, and that giving them money and opportunities will end their interest in jihad. ”
Yes, the consequence of leftist ideas results in handing everything to those who act out the most. For the true leftist, there remains no other reason for bad behavior but economic privation.
And these ideas can only lead to death.
Voytek Gagalka says
What is going to awake them? Murder of Prince George? What essentially that means is that they wait to sacrifice innocent child on the altar of their stupidity and utter moral bankruptcy!
Larry says
Tax payer funded housing? Not a problem if it comes with high, thick boundary walls topped with razor wire, a strict schedule, bars on windows and doors, and he gets 3 sharp stones to wipe his arse with.
Simon says
Utter insanity. You cannot change a person’s core religious beliefs by giving them money. We know just how fervent their beliefs are, by the fact that they were willing to travel to a war zone and fight and die for their beliefs.
This simply gives them more money and a home from which to plan their attacks.
endislam says
It’s so obvious, they’re invited back to our countries to kill us. There is no other reason.
gravenimage says
A lot of our “leaders” are clueless about Islam.
roger woodhouse says
As is most of the populace.
gravenimage says
Also grimly true, Roger.
religionofpeace says
The Islamic terrorists in UK should be proud of terrorist welfare.
Lydia says
That’ll stop ’em!!! Give those terrorists free housing after welcoming these ‘warriors’ back in!
Finally, someone is putting their foot down!
Oh, wait, it is only so they can stoop lower to their new masters.
Bummer.
mortimer says
Put them on a desert island under lock and key, then deprogram them for 3 or 4 years. When they master the de-programming curriculum, and teach it to arriving jiahdists consider parole. Then upon release, the can wear an electronic ankle bracelet.
gravenimage says
Mortimer, first you talked about “deprogramming” Muslims, then you gradually expanded that program to three or four years–and *even then* now say that they will need to be monitored with ankle bracelets.
You have also said elsewhere that they will need regular “refresher courses”.
Even if these were proven to work, it is obviously much cheaper–and much more worthwhile–to send Infidel kids to university and give them free college degrees–even free graduate degrees or medical school.
But worst of all, this incredibly expensive program you are demanding we provide to Muslims has no track record at all. In fact, all attempts at “deprogramming” Muslims have been complete failures.
Guest says
I’d commented on another article that U.K. deserves what’s happening to them and at least two other posters came on to reproach my words. I’ll say it again: U.K., if this is what you’re doing it’s insane and you deserve the inevitable.
Ernie says
It’s not U.K. doing this , its the cynical professional politicians and their overlords/ladies doing all of this . They have their NEW WORLD ORDER- dreams , and they will stop at nothing pushing their fascist agenda . . Democraty is dying in the West ; more and more repressive laws are being shoved down our throats without consulting us . That is most of Europe today . You seem not to have a clue what our populations are up against . Really Guest , you should not judge others so easily .The common people suffer most . You should know that by now , but it is clear to me you love to sneer at a whole population here , and that’s NOT FAIR and NOT HELPING . You are clueless here .
Ernie says
Sorry reader , it must be DEMOCRACY of course .
Anne Smith says
Laws are constantly being passed to crush the normal feelings of british people. The British police force are under the control of Common Purpose, the civil service is totally controlled by Common Purpose doctrine.
It is now a “hate crime” to express dislike of Islam on Facebook or Twitter, the British people are being strangled by political correctness. Most people do not want to be whisked off to jail when they have families to support and mortgages to pay. They respond by keeping their heads down and getting on with life, not indulging in fighting back. They would probably like to vote for normal Conservative politicians but they no longer exist and UKIP has been totally smeared by the MSM.
Muslims are now ruling the roost and Sharia May loves them.
Ernie says
Dear Anne Smith , thank you !
LeftisruiningCanada says
Is dissolution of petty bourgeois and kulaks, comrade. Necessary for making of New Man from old capitalist-road thinkers.
gravenimage says
This is definitely similar to what the Communists did.
Rob says
We live in a democracy and the majority ultimately gets what the majority ultimately wants: madness, total evil madness.
Yes, Jihad Watch is right when it says “Britain is finished”, trouble is, so is Europe and so is the world.
None are so blind as those who can’t see.
gravenimage says
We should still stand for our civilized values, Rob, and not roll over for evil.
JanwoG says
That’s normal. They super Jihad heros for an Islamized Britain.
Coach says
The nation that saved us heroically from Hitler is now leading the rush to suicide, It is up to heros to stand up, find a leader and do it all again.
The problem might be a lack of respect for God. Churches are empty. Mmmm
Gbox says
Let’s all calm down, this is just a trap to get ISIS veterans together in one location to expedite the arrests. Because we all know the Brits can’t this stupid, right?
gravenimage says
If only…
David.G. USA Christian says
I hope as a deceased person I can see how Britain comes out of this civil war just ahead. It may not be today or even in 20 years, but it’s coming. If only more British households would be more intellectually thinking like they were in the past. The crusades were not that long ago. I have 2 years of community college and I consider myself more studied and smarter than the average British official, including Royalty.
David.G. USA Christian says
Wrote this comment incorrectly. Ment say more studied and smarter than most British government officials and Royalty when it comes to Islam. I basically take “Churchill’s” stance on Islam.
Frederick Middleton says
As a Briton, the only tax-payer funded accommodation I want to give them is prison. Vast majority would agree with me. Fancy being told your application for a council flat or house has been declined because it has gone to a known terrorist! Better still let the Syrians, Iraqis and Kurds deal with them.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Anyone want to bet that, if the group these losers traveled abroad to join had not been an islamic one, but, say, a neo nazi military group fighting for the formation of the Reich somewhere, there would be a bit more of a problem upon their return to the UK?
UNCLE VLADDI says
These criminals are all self-confessed attempted murderers and traitors who had joined a global crime-gang which has clearly and officially declared eternal violent war on their home governments.
Mark A says
These people will just consider the bribes to be jizya paid to them by dhimmis.
What a totally insane policy!