Again and again we see it: whenever there is an Islamic jihad massacre, the establishment media acts as if Muslims were the victims. One would get the impression that Sayfullo Saipov were a “right-wing extremist” who had run over Muslims with his truck. As for the death threats this mosque supposedly received, is there any independent verification of them? Given the many anti-Muslim hate crimes that turn out to have been faked by Muslims themselves, that has to be asked.
Note also Abu Muhammad blaming the U.S. for Saipov’s massacre.
“In aftermath of bike path killings, mosques near NYC face hostility again,” by Wayne Parry, Associated Press, November 2, 2017 (thanks to David):
PATERSON, N.J. — In the halal bakeries and markets that line Main Street, and in mosques that have been part of the community for decades, a familiar dread has taken hold after the latest terror attack in the U.S.
Sayfullo Saipov, the Muslim man accused of using a truck to mow down people on a New York City bike path in the name of the Islamic State militant group, lived in Paterson.
The city saw a surge of anti-Muslim harassment after 9/11, particularly after it was learned that as many as a half-dozen of the hijackers who flew planes into the World Trade Center, the Pentagon and a Pennsylvania field lived or spent time in Paterson, which is 20 miles outside New York.
After the attack Tuesday that left eight people dead, “it’s the same feeling again,” said Imam Mohammad Qatanani, spiritual leader of the Islamic Center of Passaic County, the region’s most influential mosque. “People here feel they will be blamed as a religion and as a people. Because this guy was a Muslim, Muslims will be blamed anywhere and everywhere.”
By Thursday, it had already begun. The Islamic Center of Passaic County had received eight telephone threats, prompting police to assign extra patrols to the area.
“They say they’re going to kill us, they’re going to burn the place down, all using extremely foul language,” said the mosque’s president, Omar Awad. “They say, ‘We’re going to come rip your … beard off.’ ”
The New Jersey office of the Council on American Islamic Relations reported that threats had also been made against the Omar Mosque, next door to the apartment house where Saipov lived. Mosque officials did not immediately respond to a message seeking comment.
Tensions have flared within the Muslim community as well, with two men getting into a fistfight at a mosque in a dispute over the cause of Saipov’s alleged radicalization….
Ramy Elhelw, 30, of Hoboken, said he never saw Saipov there. “This is not somebody we recognize in any way, shape or form,” Elhelw said. “A person who does something of this nature is a deranged human being.”
THE PATH TO RADICALIZATION
But Abu Mohammed, a 46-year-old Palestinian construction worker and olive oil importer who came to America at 18, said he saw Saipov worship there.
He condemned Saipov’s alleged crimes, but he also said he understands what can send a law-abiding Muslim down the path of radicalization.
“It’s simple: They see the U.S. terrorizing Muslims left and right for the last 27 years, hundreds of thousands of them,” Mohammed said. “That’s terrorism, and terrorism creates terrorists. The one who starts the fight is more guilty.”
Upon hearing Mohammed’s remarks to reporters at the Omar Mosque, an elderly man yelled at him and punched him in the face, and they scuffled….
Aref Assaf, a Palestinian active in Paterson’s Muslim community, said Muslims have been at the forefront of efforts to counter extremism.
“This guilt by association is hurtful for those of us who are working so hard to see this curse wiped from the face of the Earth,” Assaf said.
Porky The Crusader says
Robert I will not say what I think….Better i think….
Terry Gain says
Do you think, as I do, that Muslims are the biggest whiners and liars?
Save Europe says
They love to cite the Crusades. My atypical response is – why did the Crusades happen, perchance? Some don’t even know why. The rest don’t respond.
Eur says
They cite crusades, even north African muslims. Crying, liars … and uneducated.
harbidoll says
they just cant get over the Barbary Coast wars. (We kicked their buts)
tired vet says
We need a new crusade IMO
Janice Disher says
Absolutely, Terry, they are.
Westman says
The FLDS are persecuted and jailed for polygamy and underage marriage, the Branch Dividians had waterloo at WACO, people died at Jonestown.
Muslims break the law with polygamy and underage marriage, get a pass; secretly FGM their girls, show in polls that they want Shariah, and then whine when someone, named after Muhammad, his companions, or the famous “sword of Allah” killer, khalid, commits mayhem in Allah’s name – worrying that it might reflect badly on Islam. Well, it does reflect badly as does much of the Qur’an and Hadith and their intrinsict instruction of hate against unbelievers and Jews.
Boo Hoo. If enough Muslims actually read ALL of the Quran and Hadith they would discover the source of the “brothers” violent “misdirection” is right there for the reading. The non-believers are having no difficulty finding the hate, directed at them, in Islam’s supporting “scriptures”. The mendacity of Muslim and Christian apologetic clerics about Islam is nearing the end of its lifespan. Can’t fool all the people…..
Shane says
You underestimate Muslims, especially in the West. They do read the Koran and know that Allah demands that they kill the apostates, blasphemers, adulterers, and those who resist Islam. They are just lying about the Islamic terrorists when they say that these murderers do not understand Islam. It is these Jihadis who really are the good and devout Muslims because they are obeying Allah’s commands and emulating Muhammad the Warlord.
Victor says
I never underestimate these barbaric savages. Their ‘god’ allah is lucifer, the great deceiver, the father of lies and mohammad was a pedophile womanizer – now he’s a dead one. Saudi Arabia is preparing the New Babylon spoken of in the Bible. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N53DzL3_BHA&feature=youtu.be
gravenimage says
Westman–with all respect–I consider The FLDS more prosecuted than persecuted. I don’t condone polygamy and child marriage, no matter who is doing it.
Unsurprisingly, Joseph Smith–whom the FLDS is emulating–vowed to be a “Second Mohammad”.
gravenimage says
PATERSON, N.J. — In the halal bakeries and markets that line Main Street, and in mosques that have been part of the community for decades, a familiar dread has taken hold after the latest terror attack in the U.S.
……………………………….
Wait–*familiar* dread? You’d almost think that Muslims were slaughtering Infidels all the time….oh…wait…
More:
By Thursday, it had already begun. The Islamic Center of Passaic County had received eight telephone threats, prompting police to assign extra patrols to the area.
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Right–Muslims murder Infidels, but the police are out protecting those who share the ideology of the murderer–who cares about the victims?
More:
“They say they’re going to kill us, they’re going to burn the place down, all using extremely foul language,” said the mosque’s president, Omar Awad. “They say, ‘We’re going to come rip your … beard off.’ ”
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Uh huh. I wonder if they have any proof of evil Infidels threatening to rip Muslims’ beards off?
Most likely, this is just more fake Muslim victim-mongering–but it sure takes the focus off the dead and injured of the Jihad terror attack…
Westman says
It is truly amazing how the entire world, including Islam, has adopted all the electronic gadgets – including answering machines and cell phones which can record “threats” – yet, at mosques which claim repeated threats no recording ever surfaces to the ever-hungry, conservative-persecuting, media.
Perhaps the age of miracles is upon us.
gravenimage says
Grimly hilarious, Westman.
Ashley says
Cry me a river…with a violin.
Lydia says
Nailed it!
gravenimage says
🙂
Mike says
Payerson NJ was a working class typical NJ town in the mid to late 20th centiry. Now it’s Patistan. What right do most of these madmen have to settle here anyway.
PaulM says
And so now, the US is circling the drain along with Germany, France, the UK and Canada. The west is now officially nations of cowards and pusillanimous pansies, with the few exceptions that comment here. We are so screwed, I can hardly wait for anarchy, as sad as that sounds, only because that seems to be the only way out of this septic tank and the only way that these muslims will be eradicated.
D.T. Osborn says
Should it come to a contest between the anarchists (i.e. the Antifa crowd etc.) and Muslims, I don’t believe it is the Muslims that will lose. They are organized into cells and have been for decades over here. They know real warfare and guerrilla warfare to a depth these Antifa/anarchists can’t fathom. Then the so-called antifascists will discover what REAL fascism is under the thumb of Islamo-fascism.
Ashley says
Hey Saipov…you were an invited guest to our country. You won the fucking visa lottery for crying out loud. Married in Ohio, moved to Florida, lived in New Jersey, and killed eight in New York City.
Impressive resume…
Proud Anti-Islam says
Hey, Ashley,
Please be polite when not using foul language. I understand how you feel as I do. Please be considerate.
gravenimage says
I’m offended by violent Jihad, Ashley–not your outrage over it.
Emilie Green says
Ring, ring,
“Hello?”
“Is that you, Ahmed? It’s Nadeem.”
“Hey, good to hear from you. What’s up?”
“Well, you’ve probably seen the news. One of our esteemed mujahedin has done the honorable thing. He’s killed several kaffir over there in lower Manhattan. Allahu Akbar. Allah willing, the death number will raise.”
“Inshallah. I pray to Allah that some of them were Jews. So what’s up?”
“Well, you are hereby informed that this call is a death threat against you, the mosque, and the ummah within the NYC community.”
“Duly noted. I’ll call the press immediately.”
“Good idea. But maybe you should also call the police first.”
Save Europe says
You nailed it ????
Porkys Revenge says
My Christian son can’t pray in a public school because someone may get offended. My son can’t say the pledge of allegiance in school without offending someone but muslims can have prayer rooms in school? Everything was given to the NYC savage and I’m suppose to feel sorry for him and other muslims? They only get away with that here because WE allow it. We should deal with it like the Russians do. Then muslims here will have something to complain about.
Matthieu Baudin says
“… Again and again we see it: whenever there is an Islamic jihad massacre, the establishment media acts as if Muslims were the victims…”
This is because in today’s fashionable thinking people from the ‘mainstream’ of society cannot be victims – you cannot be a part of the ‘dominant culture’ and be a victim. Victimhood, in the mode of this current thinking, is the socially mandated condition of minority groups the ‘oppressed’ subcultures. This is the perverse knee jerk reaction in attitudes that we are faced with recurrently after these violent attacks.
Karen says
Yes, exactly. And the corollary is that members of a favored class can never be considered the perpetrators of said oppression (i.e., hate crime).
Bob says
The mucklims’re a favoured, protected group all over Europe. A word out of place against them can win you 15 years in chookie!
Politicianphobia says
The Muslim Brotherhood are smiling for now.
Neil Jennison says
Gee, now why might that be?
I will have to go away and think why, yet another “Allahu Ackbar” atrocity might JUST make people less inclined to trust Muslims…………
Dear God!
utis says
Let’s see their body count: 8 dead bicyclists (including 5 foreign kufr) against how many dead Jersey baklava sellers? Dozens of injured and maimed against how many injured mosque goers and maimed imams?
Verbal threats and dirty looks don’t kill — knives, guns and vehicles do, when moved by a human hand. If we behaved like muslims, their fears would be reasonable. They are more likely to be run over by a drunk or an i-phone addict than by a vengeance-crazed kufr.
Paul Ashley says
Islamophobia-phobia is the true phobia in that is truly irrational. But then, Islam and Left are both are irrational.
762x51FMJ says
Palestinian Araf Assaf: I know of another ‘curse’ your fellow muslims would like”wiped from the face of the earth”.
Abu M. needs to look a bit further into the past for who is to blame for “starting the fight first”. Islam was terrorizing its neighbors for centuries before the founding of America, and it started that ‘fight’ as well.
Admittedly this all sounds so elementary-schoolyard But they are the ones living in the US and blaming it for this latest massacre. They do NOT consider those victims their fellow countrymen.
PRCS says
“a familiar dread has taken hold after the latest terror attack in the U.S.”
Oh, the dread.
The dread.
OMA.
The dread.
eduardo odraude says
Which is the most persecuted religious group in the world today?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytdMUddGe-U
Lydia says
Exactly.
Newsflash for most, though.
Lara says
well, considering what they did through the history to all those they considered infidels or simply heretics I would say this is karma
hope the same fate will hit also muslims, better sooner than later
in the end, karma may take a while (sometimes whole lives, unfortunately) but it is sure to give everyone the right retribution
Mike C says
Wo, even for a pro-islam article there were some very telling details in this article.
1. A 46 year old muslim from the perps mosque justified terrorism. So much for being radicalized online.
2. Someone at the mosque punched this 46 year old for saying what he really believed again showing how prone to violence and uncivilized pious muslims can be.
3. Its also worth noting that the muslim was punched NOT for justifying terrorism but for revealing what he really believed too the infidel media and tarnishing the reputation of Islam to the outside. In other words muslims are generally fine with terrorism they just dont want it linked to terrorism by non-muslims.
Joe says
Yeah, the only violence was in the Mosque. Who goes to Mosques?
CogitoErgoSum says
What can we do to encourage the “moderate” Muslims? And when the chips are down where will these “moderate” Muslims side? I love Robert Spencer’s comments regarding these questions. See the video below:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwxyeFm6UVw
PRCS says
I’ve used that argument many times:
Moderate Muslims are like Catholics who use artificial birth control methods.
Amy Smithe says
There are NO such thing as ‘moderate’ muslims..no matter what they sputter and spew! Their books state what they state: who they are, what they believe and what everyone else in the world should too! Their so called founder was a maniac murdering nut case. NO ONE has to agree with them, like them or put up with them IN OUR OWN COUNTRY or any other for that matter- pushing their nonsense, so what is the matter with so many who do?? Knowing they hate us and plan to indoctrinate everyone with their rubbish and our kids, is infuriating not islamophobic…it is fact!! To understand them is important so you are not fooled by them! Caring in general about all peoples is what we are to do but when there are those who are our enemy, which what they are and and we are to protect ourselves from their evil! What they want is to rule the world with their islam….what insanity is that? Our Concern should be to educate them or return them from where they came…we do nto want their ways here. us as they are totally opposite to us. They EXPECT us to change to their ways and think we are the evil ones in a FREE nation! Rather mindless and Dark Age of them don’t you think? What we DO have to care about is that they are fools pushing their rubbish in OUR nation to our people and even to our children in schools. THAT IS OUTRAGEOUS AND THEY SHOULD BE MADE TO UNDERSTAND: THEY ASSIMILATE OR LEAVE, period! More and more are coming here and those mosques of theirs are a cover for what they are; a totalitarian governmental system of people and a recruiting station etc….religion my foot! There should be NO mosques in America at all. And none of this is their so called islamophobia bull! It is the truth! They are a governmental cult that is totalitarian and they hate us- so what fool let them in here in the first place? None of them care about the Constitution or who we are and plan to do as they wish. No matter whose country they are in, they think they are the special and the better than anyone else…oh my heck that is just rich! They should be sent back to their own country and let live there….we will be fighting them for the rest of life on this planet now, they are satans army! Mosques needed to be torn down, they are not a place of worship as we know churches to be. They are recruiting stations and planning places for when they gain a foothold here. Just look at Detroit and what has happened to that state with all the muslims there…ruined. Lets; face it there are those that should not be in anyone’s country and left to be in there own and if they do not we fight them. Muslims are a bane of existence wherever they go with their nonsense. When is everyone going to get educated on them and realize they are the enemy personified and will keep on until they make as much mess as they possibly can. Again what fool let any of them come here? I do not like who what or how they look as they are evil and that is the truth and if they do not like that too bad as they are oppressive, outrageous, offensive and rude to think anyone with a mind for truth would consider them anything but evil. And they refuse to listen when we tell them so but sure have plenty to say themselves about everything and anything they see fit about everyone else! Do they have any idea how ridiculous they look, sound and how pushy they are…not to mention just evil! They are lucky they have not been run out of America….some fo these idiotic university people ought to be at the brunt of their evil- so they see just who these muslims really are!!! I am not for harming anyone but they sure don’t mind doing so and should be removed from America. It is too late now anyway with all the other nut cases running all over OUR country…..lock, load carry making sure to watch your back and where muslims reside in your area.
It has become the Old West again!
Voytek Gagalka says
Nobody would blame them if they will have guts to make clear-cut condemnation of that act and clearly distanced themselves from the ideology which made that attack possible. But of course they will never do it: they are one tribe, one Ummah, and they will stand together and go down (if necessary) together. No individualism is possible under Islam! Once shahada is pronounced, they will defend each other to the end.
PRCS says
Correct–within limits.
That so many Muslims chafed under Islamic State control makes clear that not all of them will stand together–cafeteria Muslims, if you will.
mortimer says
THIS WOULD BE HUMOROUS IF IT WERE NOT SO TRAGICALLY FALSE:
Aref Assaf, a Palestinian active in Paterson’s Muslim community, said Muslims have been at the forefront of efforts to counter extremism.
“This guilt by association is hurtful for those of us who are working so hard to see this curse wiped from the face of the Earth,” Assaf said.
HEY, AREF, ISLAM CANNOT BE REFORMED! It’s already ‘perfect’. If you change Islamic terrorism, it’s blasphemy.
revereridesagain says
This is what is going on in my neighborhood — the local Unitarian church is screening “Occupation of the American Mind”, a vile anti-Semitic, Israel-bashing film narrated by Roger Waters, the Jew-hating star of Pink Floyd. They might as well have dug up an old print of “The Eternal Jew” and run that as if this were 1930s Berlin. There will be a protest in front of their “Social Justice Warrior”-ridden church tomorrow, and I’ll be there. Will let y’all know what happens.
http://jewishjournal.org/2017/11/02/area-jews-ask-why-would-a-church-show-an-anti-semitic-movie/
Linde Barrera says
To revereridesagain- Good luck tomorrow and be safe as you join the protest in front of that moronic church.
As to the last paragraph of this article, “the curse that needs to be wiped from the face of the earth” is really Islam. ? Too bad the guy who gave that quote doesn’t see it my way. ?
Kay says
+1
Dawn says
Hostility really, what about lives being slaughtered in the name of Jihad. Christians being killed for their faith. I am not saying people should be hostile but give me break why are muslims always the victims
Jim says
Yes, the problem is that the mosques are threatened after a stinking muslim kills infidels. The mosques should not be threatened just at that time; they should be threatened all of the time.
Bezelel says
Every mosk that has spawned a jihadi should be condemned and flattened. No more building permits for them. The imams deported and the mosks still standing forfeit their search and seizure rights. Put the screws to them from every direction. Declare the MB a terrorist org. Treat them like the domestic enemies of the Constitution that they are.
IQ al Rassooli says
Can any Muslim REFUTE the following?
Put up or forever Shut Up
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/11/donald-trump-team-islam-clash-of-civilizations-214474
Last February Mike Flynn, the incoming national security adviser to President-elect Donald Trump, tweeted: “Fear of Muslims is RATIONAL.” He urged his tweeps to “please forward” a Muslim-bashing video by one I.Q. al-Rassooli, a Britain-based, Iraqi-born polemicist who argues that Islam is less a religion than a cult in perpetual war with the West, that the Prophet Muhammad “committed crimes against humanity on a massive scale” and the Koran is “a rambling, incoherent, jumbled scripture of hatred and enmity that no true God would have ever revealed to anyone.”
IQ al Rassooli
Kafir & Proud!
Infidel says
MUST READ: The growing Islamization of London.. By Major Gaurav Arya
http://www.sundayguardianlive.com/opinion/11506-english-guilt-turns-queen-s-london-caliph-s-london
R Russell says
Could it be that the Muslims themselves are responsible for the hostility against them?
After all, the Muslims believe their Holy Books which tell them to kill the unbelievers, have them convert to Islam, or pay a colossal tax in order to stay alive.
Seems to be that any attacks could be construed as a ‘pre-emptive strike’ before more of them obey the teachings in the Koran and Hadiths and continue to kill us.
brane pilot says
The Muslims in this country did not magically materialize here.
They were allowed in. The vast majority have come here since 1965. Many, if not most, were brought here by the US government at taxpayer expense in the name of ‘diversity’.
The Muslims really are not to blame. They are what they are.
The blame is generation after generation of idiotic Western politicians who believe that importing an ideology as grossly dysfunctional as Islam is some sort of virtue signal of their progressiveness.
That needs to change, and is.
gravenimage says
Yes–even twenty years ago here, Jihad was not a threat.
Richard Paulsen says
The development of islam in the Western world got to be stopped. Before it is too late, Islam has nothing in the Western world to do.
Communism, nazism and now islam. Will the world never learn? Got to be stopped, Typically Germany is most open to islam. Sweden too.
Lara says
“They say they’re going to kill us, they’re going to burn the place down, all using extremely foul language,” said the mosque’s president, Omar Awad. “They say, ‘We’re going to come rip your … beard off.’ ”
oh, poor victims!!!!! and they should see when those who say that will stop talking and start acting 🙂 they don’t care about people hating them as long as there are only words, of course – words, threats… IF they were real they would be just what they are, a means for them to play the victims once again
as Sarek in Start Trek said (more or less, I can’t remember the exact words) “threats are illogical and usually have a high cost”
personally I think that this is all a foolish game they themselves have put up in order to play the victims as usual, as I said, since no logical person would ever threaten an enemy, putting them on guard
alex julian says
muslimii have long memories and there is a saying that One can be as Proud as an Arabii…..
Ron says
Strange that they would blame American citizens for the attack, ” Abu Muhammad blaming the U.S. for Saipov’s massacre”. I heard Rev Al Sharpton on the radio this week blaming white people as worse then what Saipov did in mowing down people. Keeping it real as the Rev says.
Victor says
mosques are nothing but hate indoctrination facilities for the archaic evil social and governmental ideology islam. They are terrorists havens and for weapons storage. islam and the barbarians who follow it have no place in any civilized society and deserve no protection under religious freedom laws.
ploome says
they are all fkn liars
jewdog says
It’s the usual: Non-Muslims have prejudices but Muslims only have grievances. Right.
Carolyne says
Trucks running into me may break my bones, but words will never hurt me.
I don’t believe these lying mosques members anyway. I think if someone were intending to assault them, they wouldn’t talk about it, they’d do it.
Ric says
The Big-Lie, whinging and murdering infidels en-masse and debauchery are the base tenets of Islam. Apparently, running down cyclists, pedestrians with a truck is justifiable; to criticize or condemn the wilful murdering of innocents by Islamist is not Kosher when it comes to the Cult of Nihilism. Progressives, the corrupt, seditious Democrats and other allies of Islam will readily concur that it is the nasty, sinister, vengeful, pariotic Americans who are the true enemies of Islam’s peaceful, bloodless doctrine.
Manny says
If that Abu thinks Americans are terrorizing Muslims he can get the F out of the country now. Pronto. Deport his Islamic a$$. The frogging nerve.
Politicianphobia says
Poor, poor Muslims and another poor Muslim is going to sue Canada for 50 million. i am thinking I should sue the Canadian government for pain and suffering for listening to all this M-103/ poor Muslim bullshit and for allowing Muslims who want Shari’ah law in Canada to be members of parliament. I am suffering from Islamophobia and it is Trudeau, Khalid and Alghabra’s fault. I want them all charged with sedition. No law is greater than Canadian law and if you think otherwise get the hell out of the country you poor Muslims.
abad says
Time to shut down all mosques and Islamic centers in the United States.