The Qur’an says, “Muhammad is the apostle of Allah. Those who follow him are merciful to one another, ruthless to unbelievers” (48:29).
So Islamic charity tends to go only to Muslims; indeed, it is forbidden in Islamic law to give zakat to non-Muslims, although that prohibition can be set aside for purposes of proselytizing. In this case, the charitable help was made contingent upon conversion.
“Hyderabad: 9 arrested for converting poor Hindu children to Islam,” by Ashish Pandey, India Today, November 19, 2017 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
The Rachakonda Police of Hyderabad on Sunday arrested nine persons for allegedly converting children to Islam .
The accused were running an orphanage named Peace Orphan Home Society and were luring children from poor families of Telangana and making them to convert to Islam by assuring free education, food and shelter.
Police has rescued 17 children in the age group of 4-14 years, including 7 girls from Moula Ali area on the complaint of the Districts Child Welfare officials.
While the police has 9 accused, including prime accused Mohammed Siddiqi alias Satyanarayana and eight others, search for one more accused is on.
“They were luring parents from tribal areas of Bhadrachalam, Mahabubnagar, Khammam and Warangal districts of Telangana and converting them illegally,” said Mahesh M Bhagwat CP Rachakonda while speaking to India Today.
The main accused Siddiqui converted to Islam in 2003-2004 and started Peace Orphan Society in Warangal and last year he started running a school-cum-hostel in Hyderabad.
“The organisers who himself are converted to Islam intentionally not changed their names to obtain reservation for future government services. They are in opinion that using their position they can convert huge number of people to Islam,” added CP Mahesh Bhagwat….
DFD says
OFF TOPIC – BUT YOU HAVE WATCH THIS !!!
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In English and French. The EU is sending and transmitting these advertising videos for “refugees” to come to Europe. It’s hard to believe, but true. THESE ARE REAL EU-PROJECTS!
“EURODAME, HELP” (English)
youtu.be/X1Fq6gtbx4Q
and
“EUROPEMAN HELP” (French)
youtu.be/ehHQ9pmKZlc
hitting back with a mockeries…
youtu.be/jqMVeWGW1VQ
and
youtu.be/1sUItT8JTuY
Custos Custodum says
Wow!
The message in the video is clear – just say the word “asylum” and you’re in, no questions asked.
Cui bono? By now, nobody expects illiterate Muslims socialized in clan groups to make a positive contribution to the economy of a Western country.
The only logical explanation remaining is that the real aim is DISRUPTION of Western societies.
DFD says
You noticed….
ChristianBosnia says
How about the same with do to Muslims?No humanitarian aid unless you convert to (insert non-muslim religion)
Sarah says
I’d love to tell every Muslim refugee that in order to get aid of any form, they have to abandon that cesspit religion of theirs. But even if I could get away with it – I would never do it. Why? Because it won’t work. They’ll just promise the world, take what they want and need and merrily go back to doing what they always do.
Its faith. Its religion. And especially with Islam – its all encompassing.
I wonder at their ignorant desperation to force people to convert – to hold them hostage to convert. We see this play out all the time, whether they be passive attempts like withholding charity, or malevolence- like the girls kidnapped in Nigeria and forced to convert and marry.
It doesn’t make for ‘good’ Muslims. They’re not going to be devout, or pious. Or even genuine believers. Aside from increasing the numbers of followers to be counted, forcibly demanding others convert does nothing good whatsoever for the religion itself.
Just another sign that the successive generational inbreeding that has occurred within the Islamic world, has absolutely taken its toll relating to intelligence and rational thought.
To put it more succinctly, the average Muslim is operating at a comparable level of intelligence to Forrest Gump. Just without the well meaning, sweet idiocy. They’re dumb – and very nasty with it.
Custos Custodum says
Can’t be done.
You can take the Muslim out of Islam, but you can’t take Islam out of the Muslim.
mgoldberg says
Now… imagine if you will, in a city in any land, where an orphanage is set up to feed, clothe and aide people if they will convert to christianity, or buddhism, or…. any religion.
What do you think the muslims will do.
Well, they will riot, and burn down the orphanage and the homes of non muslims and the cry will go out that the muslims were ‘enraged’ because their children were being captured. And so on.
gravenimage says
Exactly.
simpleton1 says
Majority muslim Indonesia is not easy for other beliefs.
mortimer says
Thanks for the report on Indonesa.
Muslims believe that kafirs are the lowest of life forms, even lower than bugs. Muslims believe that kafirs are polluted and that touching them will force the Muslim to ritually bathe.
Westman says
And what does their left hand possess? Ironic..
simpleton1 says
Thanks Mortimer,
The muslims came in with a supremist frame of mind and denigrated and “put downs” with power to the natives.
That is in the koran that they practice.
It sounds like that forest is being logged for the muslims profit.
mortimer says
Imam Al-Nawawi wrote: “It is not permissible to give any part of zakah to a kafir, whether it is zakat al-fitr or zakat al-mal… Malik, al-Layth, Ahmad and Abu Thawr said: ‘They (i.e. the kafirs) should not be given it.’”
The consensus of Islam says zakat should not be spent on kafirs.
Muslims may use zakat though as bribes.
Warren Raymond says
Darura. The principle of necessity.
Peterson says
Muslims are in worse condition than Hindus in India.This is just a way for exploitation. Once you convert they will be treated worse than Muslim children and nobody can do a thing about it.
MFritz says
Same thing they did in Algeria. Cash in the poor and unemployed of the young generations, indoctrinate and radicalise them and then incite “jihad” against the whole country.
Chand says
Christian missionaries too routinely convert the needy poor in India. India, with its teeming masses of the impoverished and neglected, is fertile ground for proselytization and Islamic organizations will naturally seize the opportunity.
It reflects on the basic failure of Indian society, culture and the Hindu religion with its oppressive caste system that has systemically kept its own in abject socioeconomic conditions.
Things are slowly improving but it has a long way to go and Islamic groups, aflush with Gulf money, will keep trying to convert, as dictated in their religion.
Hindus need to stop casteism and uplift their own people and stop squandering scarce resources on overt religious displays and rituals.
gravenimage says
Christians may preach to those they are helping, but they do not refuse aid to those in need. This is very different from Islam.
Chand says
Agreed.
Vajapeya says
Yeah, being the typical “Secular” blame the failure on everything from the Hindu ritual to the caste system etc etc. You know how many temples in India offer free food for the poor and needy? How do you know that there are no Hindu groups doing service, without conversion?Do you know how many Hindu organizations and hospitals offer free medical treatment irrespective of religion or caste? Unlike the so called Angel of peace “Mother Teresa”s organization the missionaries of charity who would not touch a dying Hindu without them explicitly willing to be baptized catholic and signing a paper to that effect. Do you know the RSS during the floods in Chennai rented fishing boats and saved innumerable Muslims from low lying areas, close to the ocean? Which other group was there?
These groups do not get sufficient media coverage as the Abrahamic ones. Also you do not speak of the overt or covert opposition of the Abrahamics, that oppose or kill Hindu sanyasis who attempt to do good in remote areas. Like the murder of swami lakshmananda for instance? I have seen with my own eyes that when there were floods in my home town of Madurai, it was the Meenakshi temple and other ancient temples that offered to house the people affected by floods. No secular person dared to ask a Mosque for the same, because if they did, they would not be in one piece
Also for your comments on overt religious ritualistic displays , is there anything more ostentatious than the rituals at the Church in Vatican?You know that in the UK that the archbishop of Canterbury lives in a virtual palace that would put the royalty to shame?We do not need advice from people like you and we know how you secular minority panderers work and are wary of the likes of you, like we are of the Missionaries and guys from those Majalis
Chand says
Vajapeya says: “Unlike the so called Angel of peace “Mother Teresa”s organization the missionaries of charity who would not touch a dying Hindu without them explicitly willing to be baptized catholic and signing a paper to that effect.”
I have worked for Mother Teresa as a volunteer, including caring for the dying destitute and I have not come across such forcible conversion as having to ‘sign a paper’. That is a utter lie. How can someone who is dying and can hardly move sign? Get your facts right. These are probably rumours spread by fanatical Hinduists.
More: “Do you know the RSS during the floods in Chennai rented fishing boats and saved innumerable Muslims from low lying areas,…………………..”
It is perfectly possible and I do not doubt it although I think the RSS is a fascist organization which twists history and has manufactured its own version of Hinduism different from the reality. The reality is that Hinduism is a generic tern for varied cultural, philosophical and religious practices.
More: ” Also you do not speak of the overt or covert opposition of the Abrahamics, that oppose or kill Hindu sanyasis who attempt to do good in remote areas. Like the murder of swami lakshmananda for instance?”
Why are you using the ‘Abrahamic’ here? Do you mean Christian? I think so for had you meant Islamic you would have definitely said it.
Of course crimes can be committed by ‘Abrahamics’ too. And they deserve punishment, of course.
More: “……is there anything more ostentatious than the rituals at the Church in Vatican?You know that in the UK that the archbishop of Canterbury lives in a virtual palace that would put the royalty to shame?”
I definitely do not condone religious displays by any religion, as I am an atheist, for your information. It is a waste of money.
More;”We do not need advice from people like you and we know how you secular minority panderers work and are wary of the likes of you, like we are of the Missionaries and guys from those Majalis”
Who is this ‘we’ that you represent? Hindu fanaticism, I’m guessing. Well, I’m not advising you in anything. I’m only pointing out the failures of your religion in the socioeconomic sphere for the Indian people. You seem to have an equal hatred for Christian missionaries as for Muslims.
Christianity has proven to be far superior to Hindusim, by many orders of magnitude, in providing for the poor, needy and the downtrodden although many so called Christians have behaved in a very un-Chirstian like manner and ‘Christian’ nations have, in the past, colonized, looted, attacked, massacred and tormented many non-Christian peoples of the world, especially the non-Caucasian races. And they have brutally fought each other too in the past, as the Shias and Sunnis do today.
Hinduism, on the other hand, although producing the pinnacles of human thought and philosophy, have systemically tormented, oppressed and exploited its own people, in the name of caste. Hindus have not conquered and colonized other nations but have broken its own nation and dehumanized its own people by not considering much of its own population as human.
Thus one of the fathers of our modern nation Ambedkar, born into a lower caste, urged Indians to convert to the more humane religion of Buddhism, having himself done so.
Just because this site criticizes Islamic fundamentalism and points out the dangers of that religion, it does not automatically mean that you can glorify your Hindu fundamentalism and prove yourself and your religion to be morally superior. Not so fast. The whole world knows about the evils inherent in the Hindu caste system.
Vajapeya says
Yeah, being the typical “Secular” blame the failure on everything from the Hindu ritual to the caste system etc etc. You know how many temples in India offer free food for the poor and needy? How do you know that there are no Hindu groups doing service, without conversion?Do you know how many Hindu organizations and hospitals offer free medical treatment irrespective of religion or caste? Unlike the so called Angel of peace “Mother Teresa”s organization the missionaries of charity who would not touch a dying Hindu without them explicitly willing to be baptized catholic and signing a paper to that effect. Do you know the RSS during the floods in Chennai rented fishing boats and saved innumerable Muslims from low lying areas, close to the ocean? Which other group was there?
These groups do not get sufficient media coverage as the Abrahamic ones. Also you do not speak of the overt or covert opposition of the Abrahamics, that oppose or kill Hindu sanyasis who attempt to do good in remote areas. Like the murder of swami lakshmananda for instance? I have seen with my own eyes that when there were floods in my home town of Madurai, it was the Meenakshi temple and other ancient temples that offered to house the people affected by floods. No secular person dared to ask a Mosque for the same, because if they did, they would not be in one piece
Also for your comments on overt religious ritualistic displays , is there anything more ostentatious than the rituals at the Church in Vatican?You know that in the UK that the archbishop of Canterbury lives in a virtual palace that would put the royalty to shame?We do not need advice from people like you and we know how you secular minority panderers work and are wary of the likes of you, like we are of the Missionaries and guys from those Majalis
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Mr Spencer, what is wrong with this benevolent gestures from Muslim charitable organizations in India?who told you that charities are tied with condition that the beneficiaries must convert to Islam?Giving zakkat to non-muslims is not tied to condition that they must convert to Islam , it is to show them that Islam is Humane. It is filthy Christian charitable organizations like Christian AID who target vulnerables after military thugs from their home countries have invaded and destroyed those nations.It has been happening since the time of colonisation by Christian west to make the colonised so docile not resisting to the stealing of their resources as Ngugi exposed.
Islam says
“Christian cannot eat in Muslim owned restaurant, schools, colleges, office buildings nor they can drink water in same glasses which is worst kind of hate on religion in Pakistan but this new trend of prohibition on use of toilets in schools is inexpressible in words.”
whereever muslims appear in significant numbers everything turns bad.
muslims are racist to the bone,religious racism of the worst kind.
Government policies in Pakistan, “did not afford equal protection to members of majority and minority religious groups, and due to discriminatory legislation, minorities often were afraid to profess freely their religious beliefs. Leaders, bureaucrats, ALL blamed for the failure to protect minorities.
Muslim clerics and some individuals become authority on matters like this. The most clerics in the country are puritanical fanatics, who have no concept of tolerance and respect for other religions. Pakistani muslims are born in a society based on hatred and then raised in Prejudice of other religions.
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Blasphemy law mandates the death penalty .It has become fashion to use and abuse blasphemy law for, hate crime, personal vendetta these are most often used to settle personal scores, drive Christian families out of villages and acquire their property. No evidence is required, anyone even just accused, of insulting Islam, risks a violent and bloody death at the hands of vigilantes. Those acquitted have often been lynched.
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Christians, who make up around 1.6 per cent of the country’s 207.7 million people, are often discriminated against and marginalized by the Muslim majority.
the situation of muslims in europe is much better than of christians in muslim countries- Ask Pakistani Christians in Pakistan,
ask the copts in egypt or ask the armenian.
Ask the christians in eritrea or nigeria-
Ask Christians in Ache ,Indonesia
whereever muslims appear in significant numbers everything turns bad.
Muslims are not-whatever they or have done(they have killed an estimated 100 million people in idia during their occupation)
they are never guilty ,they always blame others and find some cheap excuses and they get angry very fast and on an epic scale if they lose the argument.
UNCLE VLADDI says
I bet they offer them free sex, too.
Muhammad would be so proud!
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Uncle vladdi, it is filthy christian churches that engage in sexual harassment of the children under their care as it has been happening in the west. Are you aware?
Chand says
Have to agree with you on this one, Ibrahim.