Was his request refused, or would that have been “Islamophobic”?
In any case, despite Saipov’s note containing “Islamic religious references,” this is not about Islam. The NYPD assures us that is the case. And they wouldn’t lie to us, now, would they?
“New York attack suspect Sayfullo Saipov charged with terrorism,” by Jamiles Lartey and Ed Pilkington, Guardian, November 1, 2017:
The suspect in Tuesday’s deadly New York City truck attack appears to have been inspired by violent Isis videos depicting beheadings and shootings, according to prosecutors.
Sayfullo Saipov was taken to the New York federal courthouse in a wheelchair, handcuffed and with his feet shackled on Wednesday, shortly after the charges were announced at a press conference.
The 29-year-old was charged with providing material support to a terrorist group and violence and destruction of motor vehicles.
The details of the charges were outlined in criminal complaint filed Wednesday by the US attorney for the southern district court of New York. Prosecutors said in the complaint that Saipov planned the attack for Halloween because he knew more people would be out on the streets. It was the deadliest terrorist act in New York City since 9/11.
Saipov drove a rented Home Depot truck down a bike lane intentionally, killing eight and injuring 12 before crashing into a school bus, exiting and being shot in the stomach by a New York City police department officer. He had planned to continue the attack for several more miles to the Brooklyn Bridge.
According to the complaint, Saipov was inspired by Isis videos he watched on his cellphone and began planning an attack in the US almost a year ago and had rented a truck on 22 October to practice making turns.
Law enforcement recovered two cellphones from the truck used in the attack, including one phone that had approximately 90 videos which appeared to be Isis propaganda, according to the complaint. The videos included footage of fighters shooting someone in the face, beheadings and information on how to make an explosive device.
Saipov was interviewed by law enforcement officials while recovering from the gunshot wound in the hospital, where he asked to display the Isis flag in his room and told officials “he felt good about what he had done”, prosecutors said in the complaint.
Saipov dropped a pellet gun and paintball gun at the scene, prosecutors said. In the truck, he also left behind a note, handwritten in Arabic and English, that included Islamic religious references.
John Miller, deputy New York police commissioner for intelligence, said at an earlier press conference that Saipov “appears to have followed, almost exactly to a T, the instructions that Isis has put out”.
In the past few years, the Islamic State has exhorted followers online to use vehicles, knives or other close-at-hand means of killing people in their home countries. England, France and Germany have all seen deadly vehicle attacks since mid-2016.
A November 2016 issue of the group’s online magazine detailed features that an attack truck or van should have, suggested renting such a vehicle and recommended targeting crowded streets and outdoor gatherings, according to the Site Intelligence Group, a militant-monitoring agency.
The charge sheet makes extensive note of Saipov’s fervent, pledged support for Isis. It said he wanted to attach the Isis flag to the front and back of his rental truck when he launched the attack, but decided against that as it might draw too much attention to him….
Ciudadano says
Sounds like he is setting up the mental illness excuse
Imnokuffar says
Islam is by definition a mental illness
Gail griffin says
That was my first thought too.
Andy says
I get high blood pressure reading these stories because these left wing politicians never do anything to stop this insanity. President Trump is trying to do something and he gets shut down by left wing mentally disordered liberal judges in filthy black robes.
They are more afraid of being called islamphobic.
BRING BACK SANITY!!! STOP INNOCENT PEOPLE FROM BEING MURDERED by Islamic Moslem BUTCHERS!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2mKWWQWLne4
epistemology says
Don’t really think so, devout Muslims are all mentally ill anyway but that’s an explanation no excuse. Funny thing is all terrorists are Muslims and they don’t get along with any civilization on this planet as they always want to impose their bloody sharia. Driving vehicles into crowds is their new way killing innocent people since Nice so it’s no surprise they did in America as well. THe only way to protect ourselves is to get rid of the Muslim crap
Frank Cicero says
I would give him his flag using his asshole as a mount.
pandainc says
“The 29-year-old was charged with providing material support to a terrorist group and violence and destruction of motor vehicles.” Where are the charges for murder? A flag? Absolutely. Bring it in for him, set it on fire and drop it on his chest as it burns. I simply don’t believe large cities.
RichardL says
he has two allahs in his names, is a fan of the islamic state, quotes from the vicious book of islam in his note yet we all get told by people who care about their jobs but not the lives of the people they are elected to defend and protect that islam has nothing to do with it. And to dot the i in islam, they warn us at getting angry at islam, Muslims or them.
“The biggest lie they believe.” But when people get it, they will be very, very angry. Like me.
Guest says
No
Georg says
I can think of some ways to use that flag to make him wish he’d never asked the question.
Barbara Ethel says
Lol. Was going to write the same.
Imnokuffar says
Me to hang him by it
larry says
You mean, specifically, the flag POLE, I assume? Roger that.
Hari Singh says
The Feds want to treat him as an enemy combatant but they also say that Islam is the religion of peace so the Islamic State is the state of peace.
Seriously he should be tried just like the OK City bomber Timothy McVeigh and Executed.It’s the Governments fault-they held an immigration lottery and look who won?
Georg says
“…they also say that Islam is the religion of peace so the Islamic State is the state of peace.” Sadly, you make a great point.
Wouldn’t be sad to see him given capital punishment. Or sent to Gitmo, for that matter. We can never repay even a fraction of the suffering delivered to the relatives of the innocents so heinously targeted, but it seems this idiot might get what’s coming to him.
Thinkingaboutit says
If he was sent to his native land, the problem would cease. Bearded headbangers have been boiled alive, it has been claimed. Not sure, but they have a deservedly terrifying time, sans beards as they’re not allowed.
gravenimage says
Uzbekistan only has a problem with pious Muslims targeting Uzbek authorities. They would probably be fine with his slaughtering Infidels in America.
Matthieu Baudin says
Selectivity and containment evident from the authorities. The ‘truth’ that they have selected for this incident has ISIS propaganda as a motivation but not Islamic teachings. This line will probably expand to include a little background examination of Uzbekistan and the large number of recruits it produced for the fight in Syria and Iraq. As for the request to fly the black flag in hospital, I’m sure it was turned down; but a copy of the Quoran would have been provided to him as a courtesy and right and what comforting passages would he be turning to for direction?
Jayell says
OK, deliberately mowing down multiple citizens of a country that gave one an enviable home is atrocious enough, but then effectively urinating in the faces of those who are going to great expense to patch one up in hospital by wagging an offensive bit of rag purporting to be a flag in their faces is so far beyond the pail that it’s in outer space. To say that this character has got all his screws loose would be an totally undeserved kindness. The only way he could possibly atone for his unspeakable sins would be to offer himself for vivisection for medical research, relayed live on TV for educational reasons (and the authorities should save on the cost of anaesthetics), then throw the pieces into the Atlantic. If there are anymore of his ilk currently enjoying your hospitality who are contemplating paying you a similar compliment, that might encourage then to reconsider their options. Or, better still, make a list of all those whom your previous revered President allowed in to enrich your lives with their amazing ‘diversity’ and send them back whence they came, because if their idea of contributing to American life is to play the part of closet lunatics transforming everyday existence into an ongoing real-life Hitchcock horror movie, then you can do well without them, thank you very much!
I wonder about leftists says
The NYPD: not aligned with terrorisme with 8 dead people, 5 Argentinian friends, people wounded, guy ask for the Islam glad, but it was NOT TERRORISME !!!. How stupid do mayors and policemen think the American people are? I am getting sick about denials like this everywhere and all the time.
American people, wake up for God’s sake. Send them back and don’t let him get away with mental insanity, none of them. You give of the wrong signs to them. They think they can get away with killing etc.
Wake up.
The same for the Europeans and canadians, before it is to late, it is already very late. Unite pls.
Suebe Hatz says
The only reason the liberals want them in is for votes. Everyone needs to vote on the mid-term elections, and vote non-career politicians and VOTE REPUBLICAN. I was a stupid democrat for over 50 years and then I finally saw what they stand for. They are socialist’s. Vote for the sake of your children and grandchildren, otherwise this will be a socialistic country with Islam as the majority religion. VOTE FOR REPUBLICANS that prove they are what they say.
Greg Mockeridge says
I say they should hang him with the ISIS flag…after they soak it in pig’s blood!
John Forbes says
WHEN ON EARTH IS THE WEST GOING TO GET SERIOUS IN DEALING WITH THIS NASTY IDEOLOGY ??
Bob says
When the hell, John, are our western politicos going to face up to the problem?! As it is, they’re selling their citizens to islum without a murmur, traitors all!
Shmoovie says
How sick that he is arrogant enough to make the request to begin with, but not surprising.
He’s watched all matter of foreign and domestic terrorists defended by the media, gov’ts etc during the years he’s been here. He’s heard “nothing to do with islam” so many times in reports on terrorism here and in Europe, his feeling of superiority has been reinforced and he’d be shocked if ANY of his ‘requests’ were turned down. In his view the infidels are stupid and weak enough to bend to his demands– they didn’t even shoot to kill when they had the chance with him.
Demand for halal diet will follow and certainly be honored. He has plenty of ‘friends’ here looking out for his religious rights.
Suebe Hatz says
You just about 5 minutes ago I was extremely happy that this piece of crap had lived, and for one reason only to get information. Now that I heard we won’t be questioning him as we should be able to I too wish he had be executed. I am so pissed off that people that are in doubt guilty has any rights. The families now have the biggest hole in their hearts that can only be filled by the only God. The God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. Pigs blood should have been used for a transfusion if this guy needed blood at all, and a woman should be the executioner if he gets the death penalty, with full knowledge of how he is about to die because he will know then that he won’t make it to his fantasy of 72, and that would be the nightmare of 72 women if it really worked that way and it doesn’t.
Bob says
Jail him for life with no chance of parole, solitary, no koran, no halal grub, and no mucklim chaplain. Better still, do away with him – he’s killed innocent people!
mgoldberg says
Firing squad, and bury him with two quarts of dead pigs blood
Rob says
Hate to tell you but Muslims have pretty much taken over chaplaincy in U.S. prisons. I have 1st hand knowledge that non-Islamic religious counselors routinely face a “not wanted” sign when it comes to working in U.S. prisons. That’s yet another indicator of just how deep the rot has gotten in this country.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
The Ikwan made it one of their first targets.
gravenimage says
There are still a lot of Christian chaplains in the prisons–but they are quite different over all from the Muslim clerics. Generally, they reach out to anyone of any faith (or none) to just offer compassion and help.
In contrast, Muslim clerics are very aggressive with Da’wa and pressure to convert.
Ebrahim says
Why the United States allow a man called God Sword green card !
gravenimage says
I doubt the agents knew anything about the meaning of his name–not that this is an excuse.
duh swami says
What, no Quran? The media rarely if ever mentions the Quran by name…They also don’t like the word ‘jihadist’, preferring ‘extremist’
instead…The presence of a Quran destroys the myth o Islams innocence,,,so the ‘reporters’ would rather not talk about it…
underbed cat says
Yep that is it, CVE, countering violent extremism does not include Islam..?That has to be protected against backlash of the next truck killing event driven by a hapless bearded fake muslim?
stefan says
The left has blood on its hands in Manhattan.
Leftists who refuse to stop islamic terrorism want people to die.
utis says
I hope the NY cops, or at least the Federal spook agencies, are watching everyone who visits him, and checking their backgrounds for at least 20 years back.
And will someone please stick some pork soup in that punk’s IV!
gravenimage says
Utis, I very much doubt he is being allowed visitors now.
guest says
this guy should be executed
Bev says
They should bring in a parade size flag and stuff right up his butt.
Dov Berrol says
I guess The Guardian does not think the deadly Arab vehicular attacks in Israel count.
Kay says
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Ewanda says
The best thing that could be done immediately is to fill his hospital room with the voices of the victims of his barbaric ideology relating the impact of his deed on their lives. This should be non-stop. It would give the victims the satisfaction to unload, and maybe hours and days of hearing sadness, anger, disappointment, shock, anguish, from so many persons just might introduce the virtues of compassion and empathy into him. These feelings are systematically replaced in Islam through watching bloody live animal sacrifices to a deity, brutal punishments of Sharia, don’t see smiles through niqabs & burkas, don’t laugh too hard, don’t yawn too deeply, always be surrounded by black, no dogs as pets that demonstrate unconditional love, fill little hearts with wanting to commit suicide, scare kids by relating what happens when they die so they will want to be a jihadi to bypass the “punishment of the grave”, make the males sex addicts so the brain can’t process anything else, …… what a life!!! Don’t want it here!!
gravenimage says
Ewanda wrote:
The best thing that could be done immediately is to fill his hospital room with the voices of the victims of his barbaric ideology relating the impact of his deed on their lives.
………………..
Ewanda, you are assuming that Sayfullo Saipov is a civilized person who would realize the harm he had done if he heard the anguish of his victims.
But a Jihadist would just revel in the hurt he had caused the “filthy Infidels”–he’d love this.
Thomas Kimball says
If he wants his flag in his room with him we should give it to him . Strangle him with it!!!!
Mark says
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ElCid says
The jihadist’s name is SAIF ALLAH = SWORD OF ALLAH as Pamela Geler explained on Fox News so he is a devoted islamist determined to kill Kafr-Infidels as the Koran commands the muslims(= faithful) to do.
Vrex says
Muslims are like a football team: The radicals/ terrorists are the strikers.
The Extremists are midfielders who feed the radicals.
The defenders are the moderate muslims who create diversions, deflect, defend and save islam from legitimate criticism and any accusations.
They work as a team though they create a perception that the defenders have nothing to do with the strikers.
The Western liberals are like their goalies who jump in when the situation’s gets worse with statements like ”Islam is a peaceful religion, don’t generalize, don’t paint the entire community with the same broad brush.
Quran 9:123 -”Make war on the infidels living in your neighnorhood and let them find it hardshness.
Quran 9:5 – ” When the opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you find them.
Quran 2:191- ”Slay the unbelievers wherever you find them.
Quran 3:28 – ”Muslim must not take the infidels as friends.
Quran 3:85 – ”Any Religion other than Islam is not acceptable.
Quran 5:33 – ” Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam.
Quran 8:12 -” Terrorize and Behead those who believe no in Allah.
gravenimage says
Good analysis.
Alarmed Pig Farmer says
Give him his flag. Have a ticker tape parade down main street in Patterson NJ, his adopted home town. I congratulate Sayfullo for boldly observing his religion by obeying Ko-Ranic commands from Allah himself.
That is, if one believes in the tiny minority of extremists meme. Believe that, then you must say that Sayfullo is a hero, a paragon on selfless virtue.
Jake says
I like the idea of the parade. Arrest everyone from his neighborhood who shows up for this extravaganza and deport them along with this creep’s family. Bulldoze the mosque he lived next to, also.
Roderick MacUalraig says
HM, Yes. All good suggestions.
Richard Courtemanche says
Is the world really standing up to terrorism?
The word “coward” fails to register with these individuals… just like extreme left-wings with their faces covered physically attacking the vulnerable as if it’s an acceptable new standard to prove a point.
Good part of the blame must be put on governments, institutions, etc… for that insane radical mindset towards violence and terrorism. Here in Canada, we have an Islamic government that fails to rein in those islamists including Imams spreading hate… and those freely traveling back and forth to fight for ISIS. A government condoning it essentially… no politics to interfere with jihads and the advance of an eventual Islamic state. Only repeats of threadbare platitudes by irrational and cowed politicians… Islamic authoritarianism marked by habits of communism.
Out-of-control universities teaching and sowing extreme liberal ideologies while shutting down free speech and debates. Schools caving in or cooperating with the radicalization young children with Islamic ideologies… next generations of potential islamists and terrorists essentially.
Have you cornered your political representative lately!
Guy Macher says
Wrap his body in it.
Jake says
This is no longer only about an international criminal conspiracy launched by an evil supremacist religion, it is also about members of our own society who are wittingly or unwittingly complicit in this horror. Dealing with these evil idiots is simple if there is adequate understanding of the true nature of the threat. That is why this web site and the writings of Robert Spencer are so important. Buy one of his books and give it to a friend. Open their eyes. I’ve watched this happen in my own circle and family. Properly alerted, these 7th century fools are no match for an American public or American intelligence and law enforcement.
gravenimage says
+1
MacUalraig says
Has the dhimmi mayor personally delivered the flag yet?
Jacqueleen says
The Muslims view Americans and Europeans as weak infidels easily conquered….We will see more innocent people killed because the powers that be refuse to call it what it is…TERRORISM….not mental illness and not an accident. Those whose lives are cut short and probably not in a purified state for Heaven or even Purgatory, will end up in Hell so, my point is that it should happen to the powers that be and not to innocent bystanders. ISOLATE THE UNCIVILIZED…EVICT AND BAN THEM FROM ENTERING A CIVILIZED NATION. HAVE YOU FORGOTTEN THE 59 IN LAS VEGAS ALREADY???? We may find out in about 5 years or more just how involved Stephen Paddock was with the ISIS scumbags…probably laundering money for them and buying weapons for them..
meturaf says
This is beyond Chutzpah of the worst sort.
henner720 says
we normaly do not take any request, unless ofcourse somebody ask.in this case what difference does it make. he is out of the game, he want to display a false dominance.we own him.we request he eat a truckload of pork, and recite the constitution 100 times.then he get it.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
This proves the value of taking jihadis alive. His actions and words after his capture are the best proof of our case against Mohammadism. He is the living rebuttal of any nonsense uttered by the MSM and abetting politicians that attempts to excuse Mohammadism.
I would like to see him filmed quoting from the Koran thus making it clear that he was being an excellent Mohammadin!
henner720 says
suck tjis guy.make him exhasted, mentally force him to repeticious climb mount everest with crossexaminations.islam has an ocean of weaknesses.one of them is the monolithic structure. all terrorist adhere to the same behavepattern.
what is on now is to ectract the deceptive patterms this person represent. construct a behavoural decoding program , the equivalent of a drone in his bloodsystem entering the memory and conviction centers, to look for hallmarks exclusive to believers, subsequent islam believers. store BIG data , his deception tactics taken to account. Via computerscientists and behavoural experts depict all signature behavours, and make a systematic traceable monitor, that pop up alarms on suspicious conduct. when proven efficient this could become a multibillion industry, as witch country would be without it.
Proud Anti-Islam says
He needs to be executed by either lethal injection or the electric chair. He deserves to die and to go to hell. He killed innocent people.
gravenimage says
I’m afraid there is a moratorium on the death penalty in New York State. That may sound like a temporary measure, but they have not executed anyone *since 1963*. I doubt this is going to happen in this case.
Julie says
Oh hell no! I bet they refused. I sure hope so. These are New Yorkers afterall. I have a friend who worked as a critical care nurse for years. I know she and probably most nurses would refuse to work in that condition – I’d call it a hostile work environment if there ever was one. It would be hard enough to have to have this guy as a patient as it is.
Jim says
Yeah, give him the book that radicalized him, that told him to do what he did, so he can help radicalize his fellow inmates and even get some conversions. What could go wrong.
Lydia says
Okay, let’s think this one over for a minute.
Uh….. NO!
lucretia says
Does anyone else think that this terrorist bears a striking resemblance to the murdering San Bernadino she-wolf?