Says LBC: “The supermarket has responded to an outpouring of racist abuse after featuring a Muslim family in a Christmas advert.”
And Muslim “reformer” Maajid Nawaz: “Your real agenda here is you just want a white, nativist, non-Muslim Britain.”
Once again: Islam is not a race. There are Muslims of all races. Objecting to Muslims being featured in a Christmas ad is not due to “racism.” It stems from Tesco’s obvious agenda in putting Muslims in the ad in the first place: to remind non-Muslims in Britain that Muslims are present in Britain, and are there to stay, and only racist, bigoted “Islamophobes” would have any objection. It’s propaganda and manipulation disguised as an ad for turkey.
Nawaz, meanwhile, blasts those who are unhappy about the ad: “The only conclusion I can come to is that this is driven, and fuelled, by a rising anti-Muslim sentiment that wants no Muslim presence in this country and will take any opportunity to decry and bemoan a semblance of a Muslim presence in this country. Your real agenda here is you just want a white, nativist, non-Muslim Britain. You want to hark back to that nostalgic sense you have of a country before immigration. That’s the only conclusion I can come to because you’re not happy either way. If Muslims refuse to integrate you complain. If Muslims integrate you complain. That tells me there’s an axe to grind and you’re grinding it.”
The only conclusion you can come to? Really? What a failure of imagination, Nawaz! Here is another conclusion you can come to: non-Muslims in Britain are concerned about jihad terror and the repeated boasts from Islamic jihadists that Britain will before too long become a Sharia state. They don’t see anyone in the British government or establishment media addressing those concerns adequately: no one is challenging Muslims to work for reform, no one is questioning what is being taught in mosques, no one is opposing the establishment of Sharia enclaves. Instead, tens of thousands of British girls have been sacrificed to Muslim rape gangs operating in accord with Qur’anic teaching, because British officials were too afraid of being called “racist” and “Islamophobic” to prosecute them. Jihad preachers speak freely in mosques all over the country, often coming from other countries and having no trouble getting into Britain, because barring them would also be “Islamophobic.”
And while all this is going on, you tell us that Tesco featuring Muslims in a Christmas ad is a sign of “integration,” and that we’re racist for opposing it. In reality, every Muslim in Britain could celebrate Christmas, and it wouldn’t be a sign of integration. Why not? Because it’s off the point. When Muslims sincerely renounce and work against jihad terror, and all the aspects of Sharia that conflict with British law (the denial of the freedom of speech, the denial of the freedom of conscience, the institutionalized discrimination against women and non-Muslims, the death penalty for gays, the stoning for adultery, the amputation of the hand for theft, and all the rest), then they are integrating? Celebrating Christmas? Not integrating.
Why not? Because even though the celebration of Christmas is often denounced by Muslim clerics, it doesn’t touch upon the aspects of Islam that make non-Muslims concerned, and is not necessarily an indication that Muslims have renounced those aspects of Islam. There are unfortunately numerous examples of Muslims who lived in close proximity to non-Muslims and were quite friendly to them, until it came time for jihad.
The above photo and caption are from the June 19, 2013 New York Times. It illustrates how the call to jihad can override all existing loyalties — such that a Syrian Alawite can suddenly be murdered by his Sunni friend. There are innumerable other examples, such as Tamerlan Tsarnaev’s 9/11/11 throat-slitting murder of his Jewish “best friend.”
An anecdote from the Ottoman Empire in the late nineteenth century:
Then one night, my husband came home and told me that the padisha had sent word that we were to kill all the Christians in our village, and that we would have to kill our neighbours. I was very angry, and told him that I did not care who gave such orders, they were wrong. These neighbours had always been kind to us, and if he dared to kill them Allah would pay us out. I tried all I could to stop him, but he killed them — killed them with his own hand. (Sir Edwin Pears, Turkey and Its People, London: Methuen and Co., 1911, p. 39)
So yeah, Maajid, you can call me racist all you want, but I don’t find it a wonderful reassurance that Tesco shows us Muslims celebrating Christmas. I want to see Muslims renounce jihad terror. What are you doing to facilitate that, or is all your energy taken up with smearing and defaming foes of jihad terror and endorsing Muslim Brotherhood politicians?
“Tesco Defends Muslim Family In Christmas Advert After Racist Backlash And Boycott,” LBC, November 11, 2017:
The supermarket has responded to an outpouring of racist abuse after featuring a Muslim family in a Christmas advert.
Supermarket Tesco has defended featuring a Muslim family in one of its Christmas adverts following an Islamophobic backlash.
The television advert follows a diverse series of families, from a same-sex couple to a Muslim family.
Each is shown preparing a turkey, playing games and pulling crackers. One scene shows a Muslim family greeting each other with gifts as they arrive at someone’s house.
The clip provoked a response characterised by religious prejudice. Some called it “very wrong”, others promised to boycott the supermarket.
One user wrote: “Christmas advert is offensive. Halal meat/Muslims who don’t celebrate Christmas. How dare you. I’m a devout Christian and I’m very offended.”…
Tesco said the advert shows how people “come together at Christmas.”…
Maajid Nawaz railed against the complaints.
He said: “The only conclusion I can come to is that this is driven, and fuelled, by a rising anti-Muslim sentiment that wants no Muslim presence in this country and will take any opportunity to decry and bemoan a semblance of a Muslim presence in this country.
“Your real agenda here is you just want a white, nativist, non-Muslim Britain. You want to hark back to that nostalgic sense you have of a country before immigration.
“That’s the only conclusion I can come to because you’re not happy either way.
“If Muslims refuse to integrate you complain. If Muslims integrate you complain. That tells me there’s an axe to grind and you’re grinding it.”
Wellington says
“Your real agenda here is you just want a white, nativist, non-Muslim Britain.”
No. I and so many others don’t care about whiteness or nativism. Nope, not at all. Hindus from the subcontinent no problem. Black African Christians no problem. Arab Christians no problem. Chinese from Singapore, Taiwan, mainland China, etc. no problem. Vietnamese no problem. And so on. But the idea of a Muslim-free Britain is simply a beautiful concept because with Muslims ALWAYS come problems. It’s just “the Muslim thing” and nothing else.
Michael says
My thoughts exactly.
Muslims, change your religion or ship out!
That includes you, Maajid Nawaz! That includes fake ex-jihadists like you.
mortimer says
Magic has changed his religion by modernizing it. He has left Islam and is now a ‘cultural Muslim’… if that. He makes a living attacking both sides.
Rob Crawford says
Well, I’d have liked Britain to stay, well, British. I don’t understand why it has to become the western province of Pakistan.
Wellington says
I understand where you’re coming from, Rob Crawford. There is nothing wrong with wanting to preserve your own civilization with your own kind (Japan does this very much so), though one must be careful here not to slip into something that would be rank racism.
I remember when Jimmy Carter (who was a terrible President but still not as bad as Obama) during the 1976 campaign said something to the effect that he understood why Irish neighborhoods, Polish neighborhoods, etc. in America wanted to retain their own particular identity and he was criticized roundly for saying this, that it was racist or some other nonsense along these lines. Well, I have many reservations about Jimmy Carter, a ton load actually, but the man is certainly no racist and it was absurd to assert such about him.
So, once again, I get your overall idea but you have to admit that the only group of people on the planet who overwhelmingly demand that all should adopt their ways and norms are Muslims. Ditto for the “violence proclivity” as being almost solely a Muslim proclivity. As a highly theoretical example, if you could wave a magic wand and tomorrow every Muslim in Britain would wake up a devout Hindu, Sikh or Buddhist, wouldn’t you do so? I trust you see where I am coming from.
RICHARD CANARY says
I’m not British, but what happens in Britain may well affect my country, America. Therefor, I’m very concerned with the open gestures made to Muslims in Britain. Any open-minded observer of the history of Islam should understand that whenever Muslims reach a critical stage of immigration, it is their duty to take over the country.
Anyone who does not know that is just pain uninformed or misinformed. Anyu moron can figure that out, but Britain seems to have a lot of uninformed or misinformed public servants who are leading their nation to a vile, bloody death.
British citizens should re-call and punish these people for dereliction fo duty, at the very least.
gravenimage says
Fine post, Wellington.
mortimer says
Magic Nawaz should show us an example of a Muslim who has integrated and is still Muslim.
That is squaring the circle. A non-observant, non-practicing Muslim will be integrated perhaps, go to the pub with his work mates and to social events and Christmas parties.
A practicing Muslim does NOT SOCIALIZE with kafirs. Period.
Magic is funning us again. There will be attacks against Christians this Christmas and Magic will not denounce them. Just wait for it. Christians, put an armed guard at the door of your churches on Christmas Eve and Christmas Day.
marble says
Going by Nawaz standards of the moment (facts, truth don’t matter, it is what he wants versus what you own, a great but fading nation with standards of civilization), all Islamic countries are racist.
Michael Copeland says
Nawaz has an axe to grind and he is grinding it.
Santa Voorhees says
“Your real agenda here is you just want a white, nativist, non-Muslim Britain.”
No one ever complained about Saudi Arabia keeping itself homogeneous, so why can’t Britain do the same?
RichardL says
Because it’s too bloody late. And the bloody is meant literal.
Maajid probably had a very bad day. I still have hope for him.
Tom says
I have no problem with muslims who wish to celebrate Christmas alongside their Christian neighbors. What I do have a problem with is the exclusive use of muslims in an advertisement depicting Christmas.
Having the focus on muslims in what is a Christian, and a secular celebration, for don’t other than Christians enjoy the holiday and celebratory time of the Christmas season, is simply wrong. The focus should have been on the typical Christian family that includes its muslim, Sikh, Hindu, and other neighbors in their celebrations and gift giving.
Presenting the advertisement as a completely diverse and inclusive, yet Christian, celebration would have been more appropriate and would not have shown a bias toward muslims.
mortimer says
Tom, many mullahs warn Muslims not to celebrate or even acknowledge the Christian Feast of the Incarnation, because it is a Trinitarian feast that contradicts the premise of Islam.
Tom says
Yes I know that but if they want to celebrate Christmas along with you and me, and suffer the consequences from within their radical mosques, I have no problem with that.
As I said my problem is associating muslims exclusively with Christmas in the advertisement.
And yes I do understand the intent of the ad and the high profiling of muslims to make them seem benign and accepting of others’ cultural celebrations, which we all know to be a false premise.
carol says
If these muslimas had been shown with an admixture of other peoples it might have been tolerable as a sign there was hope for them (and their usual victims) and we traditionally are inclined to extend more positivity at Christmastime as a matter of habit. Instead the ad shows symbolically offensive and isolating headgear as they greet only those of their own house (and most certainly not in a House of God). Why? Likely because depicting mingling would be stooping in their playbook and the Imams might have to tighten the leash and speak outright and dhimmis might hear. Separate but equally nice and all? Peddle it elsewhere as most sane people dislike enablers of a bogus creed.
utis says
I checked the LBC article for samples of these “racist” comments. I saw nothing that could be construed as racist. Racist clearly has no meaning anymore — it’s just an insult bomb, like calling someone whose mother died in child-birth a “mother f—er.” It also diverts any serious conversation about an issue.
Nawaz is just dragging out the crying towel and violins so he can have a muslim pity party. Mohammed should be rolling over in his grave at this plea for inclusion in Christmas. He forbade muslims to imitate kufr practices — unless they were camouflaging for the next attack phase.
Remember San Bernardino!
mortimer says
The San Bernardino attack was at on office Christmas party.
Michael Copeland says
The dear BBC called it “an office lunch”.
gravenimage says
True, Mortimer.
Rob Crawford says
“Racist” in this context means “didn’t immediately bow to Muslim demands”.
RICHARD CANARY says
I don’t believe for one second in the “moderate Muslim” farce being played by Nawaz. Most Christians hope that there is a way to avoid violence between Muslims and Christians, and the Muslims are playing to that hope by pushing this phony “moderate Muslim” into the confusion of the struggle. His job is to strengthen the erroneous idea that Muslims can be dealt with as if they are civilized human beings.
Nawaz is on jihad and as such, is allowed to use his farce for the purpose of making Christians easier to
murder when the time is ripe. He is playing a very important role for Islam and should be taken seriously as a jihadi soldier who is best suited for the death penalty.
isntlam says
“Your real agenda here is you just want a white, nativist, non-Muslim Britain.”
What’s your point?
JawsV says
A white non-Muslim Britain is just fine with me!
Jayell says
Nawaz, of course, can have no idea of the quality of life in the ‘white, nativist,non-muslim Britain’ that existed before he and his sort graced us with their presence, because they weren’t here to experience it and would never be part of it because it wasn’t their scene . But a comparison of the crime stats pre- and ante-‘enrichment’ would probably give him a good idea. Likewise, quite how he presumes to pontificate on the validity of someone else’s perceived problem when he is part of the group that caused the problem, defeats me. It’s like a member of a newly-arrived criminal fraternity trying to kid the existing law-abiding community that everything’s just dandy as the burglary figures go through the roof. Self-seeking, fatuous garbage.
bob says
Just watched the advert to see what all the fuss is/was about and to be truthful seeing some muslim women giving gifts to each other is not as worrying as the lack of Christ! Until we all look at the ‘reason for the season’ which is to celebrate the birth of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ, we will still have this secular societytrying each and every idea to get us all further away from our Christian roots. I wonder how muslims would act if the shoe was on the other foot so to speak?
mortimer says
bob, the Divine Incarnation at Christmas is the stumbling block (kufr) for all Muslims. They consider ‘MUSHRIK’ (wrong worshiping) to be the most offensive thing to Allah, so Muslims are required to hate Christmas since it is Trinitarian. Practicing Muslims see Christmas as something to be suppressed. Muslims are regularly told NOT to participate in the kufr of Christmas.
Imitating kafirs is considered blasphemous. The TV commercial is patent, absurd NONSENSE.
gravenimage says
Bob, this from Tesco is a whitewash of Islam.
Kevin says
Bad enough that they placed Muslim’s in this Christmas ad notice how EVERY white person is portrayed in the worst possible light? Whites are portrayed as stupid lazy buffoon’s who don’t even know how to cook a turkey dinner meanwhile the Muslim’s are portrayed as dignified. Just disgusting!
duh swami says
O Allah, you said you perfected the religion, bu I find it lacking so I added some stuff and deleted others, reforming it…I hop you don’t mind…
O Allah, what are you going o do with that pot of boiling water?
mortimer says
Imam says saying Merry Christmas is worse than murder
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y_yVQpx9yQ0
Benedict says
His Islamic logic is impeccable.
The words of The Lord’s Prayer and John 3:16 are more offensive to Muslims than any caricature of their prophet and should be proclaimed and advanced as the ultimate victory over Islam.
Greg says
I’m a lot more concerned about supermarkets mainstreaming halal meat without labeling it.
Benedict says
“Tesco said the advert shows how people “come together at Christmas.”… —
Here is another example of how people come together at Christmas close to my part of the world:
https://www.bt.dk/danmark/ballade-i-boligforening-muslimer-naegter-ikke-muslimer-juletrae
“Muslimer nægter ikke-muslimer juletræ” = Muslims prevent non-Muslims from having a Christmas-tree ?
gravenimage says
Thanks for the disturbing link.
Ren says
We can only trust a muslim apostate, an ex-muslim.
Walter Sieruk says
It’s rather obvious that there is a need to reiterate the facts of reality. Which is that Islam is not a race.
Islam is a religious /political system of complete mind control and had awful and total power over the thoughts , lives and behavior of millions of people around the world..
Therefore with this definition its very fitting to site the wisdom of the words of Thomas Jefferson .Who had declared “I have sworn upon the alter of God eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.”
Sarah says
He sings a pretty tune, but I don’t trust Nawaz as far as I can throw him.
Reformer my ass. He is a snake in the grass and needs to be watched very closely.
gravenimage says
Maajid Nawaz is not much of a “reformer”.
Ann says
I’ve watched the ad twice, and I think it’s nice. I don’t think people should protest it. Most of the people in it are native English (who should actually be roasting a goose and not a turkey: the turkey is a 100% American bird). I have a Muslim friend who comes to our house, brings us Christmas presents, and admires our tree. She has often had a miniature, artificial tree which she puts a few decorations on. She and her daughter made Christmas cookies last year and left them in a tin at our door.
I think it was a bad idea to permit so much immigration into Europe. Totally agree with that. But now it’s done. Those Muslims who want to integrate and observe or just respect our Christmas customs should be shown warmth and encouragement. Maajid is right. They’re there, they’re human, and we must show them kindness and welcome as much as possible. Thousands of Muslims worldwide are converting to Christianity every day. That is the ultimate solution. Of course I agree with Macron’s new one strike and you’re out program, automatic deportation for any crime or misdemeanor. But that’s still going to leave millions who should not be shown hostility or ostracism unless they have shown that they deserve it.
M says
You realize you’re walking a fine line saying conversion to Christianity is “the ultimate solution” right? And this guest who comes to your home..does she bring her husband? What does he think? Have you asked? I have observed that Islamic women are let to socialize because they really don’t count in their culture. Their ideas and what they do doesn’t really matter as long as they keep breeding and keep bags on their heads. Maybe ask your friend about FGM. Ask about her religions ideas about gays. Learn more about her culture!
Ann says
I still think that Christianity is the ultimate solution, but it will require that the West recover Christianity as well.
My friend’s husband is extremely Muslim and I wish that she had not married him. Their daughter is completely assimilated, intelligent, hard-working, and a good person. She does not wear the hijab. Most Islamic countries do not practice FGM: Egypt, the east African Muslim countries, and east Asia do. My friend is not from one of those which do. So what difference does it make what he or she think about anything? They have been here for decades with no problems. Regardless of how I feel about their stance on different Islamic issues, they are going to still be here. How would it help if I were to end our friendship and scowl every time I saw a Muslim?
So what do you think the solution is? No country is going to send back its Muslim residents or citizens who do not break the law. If they are not welcomed to observe our customs, then can we complain if they become insular and hyper-Islamic?
Another Muslim friend who DOES wear the hijab came with her father to my daughter’s Catholic confirmation. She took pictures with her cell phone and sent them to me. She brought harissa which she had made to the dinner, and sent me the recipe for it. She is a very nice person, and I am glad to know her.
What’s done is done and now we just have to make the best of it. I would not make any concessions on issues of human rights, animal rights, or freedom of expression. But for us to have any chance of saving our culture, we need to show them we are Christians by our love. And also stop further immigration to the greatest degree possible. I would meet violence with violence: I would not turn the other cheek when so many would suffer if they were not protected. But those who are already here and would live peaceably among us, I would meet with interest and kindness. .
Sarah says
In all honesty Ann, I have to disagree with almost everything you have said. I mean this with respect, not hostility though, please understand that.
As a fellow Westerner – and as an Atheist, as far as I’m concerned what the West does NOT need is more bloody religion. Sure, I’d take Christianity over Islam any day of the week, the two are pretty much incomparable in most respects.
Now, Christianity helped greatly in defining the core structure of our wonderful present-day civilization.And it deserves our respect for this reason, if nothing else. But with the way the West is today, Christianity (or a return to) is not the ultimate solution.
And returning to it en masse, is just going to bring even more strife into the West. Understand that the only real reason why Christianity is so benignly practiced in the West today, is thanks to Secularism. If the West were to return to Christianity, the same old bullshit would rear its ugly head again. And while I have respect for Christianity and the fundamental part it has played in our civilization, I note that it is thanks to Christianity that our civilization was stuck in an ill-informed dark ages period for hundreds and hundreds of years longer than it ever should have – and we only rose away from that, once Secularism was pushed to the fore and religion to the background.
Anyways, I guess you and I just have to agree to disagree on that particular topic :).
As for your comment on FGM. I’d like to direct you to read the prevalence rates. I think you’ve underestimated the prevalence of FGM throughout the Muslim world.
Its practiced in over 30 nations. All over Africa, the Middle East and parts of Asia. And of course, by Muslims all over the West too. They mutilate their little girls in our nations readily.
I will put a link at the bottom, rather than rattle off all the rates and bore everyone senseless. But as a quick heads up – FGM is practiced almost everywhere in Islam. Over 70% of Iraqi Kurd females have been mutilated. 38% of women in Kuwait are mutilated. 90% of women in Oman.
34% of females from the United Arab Emirates have been mutilated. 30% of Yemen’s females. And remember- these percentages – are just the reporting statistics. Which means in truth, they’re going to be a LOT higher.
Its not like these women are allowed to leave their cave/house/tent/prison and freely chat about their genitals with WHO workers. Its not like most of them would be happy to talk to the WHO either, given how they’re raised and the lives they lead today.
Have a look here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_female_genital_mutilation_by_country
Its an eye opener. It is an Islamic thing, these days. Sure it may have started as a cultural practice – a very bloody long time ago. But its morphed and today, is found wherever you find Muslims. It is really, not confined to just a small handful of places.
Oh and harissa – is pretty tasty! 🙂 I make it myself from scratch sometimes and use as a thick marinade for chicken breast. Roast for 12 mins and yummo.
Ann says
Sarah,
I can’t reply to you, so I’m replying to myself. FGM is not common in the Arabic Middle East. Yes, it’s common among Iraqi Kurds, but uncommon among the others.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prevalence_of_female_genital_mutilation_by_country
Laws should be passed against it everywhere and should be enforced, as they are not enforced now in Europe. Those who permit their daughters to be mutilated should be sent to prison for ten years. But beyond that, the women mutilated are victims, and if they’re willing to live on friendly, respectful terms among Westerners, we should be friendly and respectful to them. We are fighting for their rights as well as ours.
This harissa was like a sheetcake, mildly sweet. I think it’s different from what you describe.
Christmas is to celebrate what Jesus came to bring: peace on earth, good will to men. I don’t think attacking Muslims who dare to give us Christmas gifts and wish us a merry Christmas is at all what God wants us to do.
gravenimage says
Ann wrote:
Sarah,
I can’t reply to you, so I’m replying to myself. FGM is not common in the Arabic Middle East. Yes, it’s common among Iraqi Kurds, but uncommon among the others.
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FGM in Egypt is *91%*. Some of us consider this deeply disturbing.
Ann says
Sarah,
I find it deeply disturbing too. That’s why I said Westerners should enforce anti-mutilation laws in our countries and sentence guilty parents to ten years in prison. But beyond that, what do you think we should do about it? I knew one Christian woman from the Congo who had had it done to her: her husband said it conferred the seventh level of perfection to a woman. I’ve googled it, but have not found anything about that belief. They were grad students in the French Department of my university. What would you have done about it? They were there, they were polite and friendly, and they were Catholic Christians (I had never heard of Christians doing it, but there you go). I think it’s horrible, a terrible violation of the rights of the girls. But I can tell you that none of the Muslims I have known have had it done to their daughters, and I haven’t known any Muslim woman who had had it done. I haven’t known any Egyptian women. I know one Egyptian Christian man who’s been in the US for fifty years. I knew an Egyptian man who ate in my dorm cafeteria many years ago, Salah. I never talked about it with them. Why do you suggest that I do not find it disturbing?
gravenimage says
Ann wrote:
I think it was a bad idea to permit so much immigration into Europe. Totally agree with that. But now it’s done.
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This isn’t “done” at all, I’m afraid–millions more Muslims are flooding into Britain and Europe.
James Kim says
“Your real agenda here is you just want a white, nativist, non-Muslim Britain.”
So why doesn’t the world get together and flood his ancestral Pakistan with non-Muslim, non-Pakistani, non-“brown” people and see how he and they react. Utter hypocrisy from a member of the religion of hate.
M says
Everyone is welcome at Tesco….thats nice. What about those no-go zones? Is everyone welcome there?
Anne Smith says
The underlying message is that Tesco wants to sell to everyone, whatever their religion or bias, to maximise profits.
That is the true meaning of their Christmas message.
Saipan Sam says
““Your real agenda here is you just want a white, nativist, non-Muslim Britain.”
Could not have said it better myself…. although being all white is certainly not manditory
MFritz says
Nawaz is the male version of Sarsour.
Sarah says
Absolutely. He’s been able to slide under the radar for quite some time now, preaching his reformist nonsense – but scratch the surface and there is still a devout Muslim under there.
As Erdogan just said recently – there is no such thing as moderate Islam. Or radical Islam. Islam is Islam. A Muslim is a Muslim.
They’re all as bad as each other.
Expat88 says
Let’s have a Ramadan ad featuring Christians. I’ve always thought that Nawaz is a big phony.
sidney penny says
I have asked Robert Spencer to provide examples of solutions for Muslims, that is what should Muslims do and say.
In his comments are many examples.Read the 5th and 6th paragraphs of his comments
unbeliever 1 says
This is the guy who was on the losing side in an “Intelligence Square” debate against Hirsi Ali on the subject of “Is Islam a religion of peace.”
If you haven’t seen it yet, it’s on YouTube.
gravenimage says
Thanks for that reminder, unbeliever. Ayyan Hirsi Ali is a real Anti-Jihadist.
Angry Aussie says
Waiting now for Christians and Jews etc to appear in Ramadan and Eid ads.
FYI says
’twas the night before Christmas and Maajid Nawaz was looking for something called “White Privilege”(..yeah..I dunno either…I’ve never had it..)
Khalid,Riz,Ahmed and Faisal are up and about.After prayers and ablutions and inspired by their “prophet” muhammed to do evil and wicked things…
Soon they will go into Londonabad,capital city of Britanistan for a night groping women..
Forse says
I used to view JW every day. These days only now and then. And this is the reason. Robert’s hyper sensitivity and rigid naysaying of anyone perceived by him not to be exactly of his views. (Most of which I share, By the way).
Nawaz is a powerful force for some form of rational coexistence with Islam, albeit we might not agree with all of his approaches and comments.
The movement to counter jihad violence and islamisation has to be more catholic, as it were.
Robert Spencer says
You have any actual refutation of the points I made in this post? No? Ah, I see.
gravenimage says
You may believe that you can coexist with Islam, but Islam does not.
pdxnag says
It is noble and good to wish that every last Muslim declare apostasy from genocidal Islam. Nothing wrong about that. (i.e., anti-Islam is not the same thing as anti-Muslim)
“Integration” is impossible without first abandoning Islam, and its myriad calls for violence, war and sedition against non-Muslims everywhere.
Remaining Muslim is wholly voluntary, except under Islamic/Sharia law. Being Muslim is a choice, a choice to hate. True, I do not want hate around me.
Gen Jones says
So that’s a halal turkey then, innit?
Pnina Judith says
I think they should have one of the hijabs white with six-sided blue stars
Nonie Darwish says
The so called ‘Muslim Reformers’ sooner or later will hit the brick wall preventing them from actually doing any reform to Islam, simply because Islam cannot be reformed. Then these reformists have to blame racism or bigotry for their failure to achieve the Islamic reformation heaven! Even the charming British accent of Nawaz cannot coverup that Islam is un-reformable.
gravenimage says
Very true–and so glad to see you posting here.
gravenimage says
For those who don’t know, Nonie Darwish is a brave apostate from Islam.
RL Robison says
Once again Maajid Nawaz is being purposely disingenuous. Head-covered Muslims in Christmas ads constitute religious appropriation, as would cross wearing people in Ramadan related ads. And putting up a decorated holiday tree and giving gifts constitutes a party but NOT “Christmas”, where Christians celebrate the birth of Jesus Christ. Muslims like to perform a rope-a-dope and turn any two-sided conversation into an immediate “you’re racist and picking on us” whine, but that whine is both tiresome, infantile,
gravenimage says
I don’t have a problem with secular celebrations of Christmas–even many Christians have secular aspects to their celebrations, such as Christmas trees and Santa Claus.
I think the real problem is that all too many Muslims *violently target* those celebrating Christmas–this has happened in Sweden, Russia, Germany, Britain, and the United States, and this is just off the top of my head.
Muslims in Dar-al-Islam regularly prevent the celebration of Christmas, and Muslims have attacked churches on Christmas day.
This ad whitewashes this vicious legacy, and pretends it does not exist and that Muslims are perfectly benign.
Paula says
We can thank the Left for this. They are factphobes. Not just fear of the facts but great hate of the facts.
Synecdoche says
Could it be that Myanmar has the right idea? Muslims in the West are like Japanese knotweed in a garden, an invasive and destructive species.
moeped says
“a white, nativist, non-Muslim Britain.”
Would remove the terror threat, no?
Cheer Bear Girl says
Islam cannot be reformed. Reforming Islam is a waste of time. It is better to leave Islam altogether than fight a lost cause.
gravenimage says
I don’t think this is what Nawaz is doing. He is, instead, largely whitewashing Islam for the Infidels.