The dhimmi vanguard preparing the rest of the population to be docile and accept their new overlords.
Imagine the outcry if students, including Muslim students, had been assigned to write about converting to Christianity. But no one will be particularly upset about this — that would be “Islamophobic.”
Britain is finished.
“‘Write letter to family about converting to Islam’: Furious stepfather refuses to let his stepdaughter, 12, complete her homework after she is asked to pen them a note about becoming a Muslim,” by Abe Hawken, Mailonline, November 9, 2017:
A furious stepfather has refused to let his 12-year-old stepdaughter finish her homework after she was asked to write a letter to her family about becoming a Muslim.
Mark McLachlan, 43, from Houghton-le-Spring, near Sunderland, has slammed the decision by the Kepier School to ask pupils to pen the note.
He has refused to let his stepdaughter, who he has asked not to be named, complete the task after failing to see what the letter would accomplish.
Mr McLachlan said: ‘I know as part of the national curriculum they have to learn about all religions.
‘I just don’t see why they should ask a child to write a letter addressed to their family about converting to another religion. I really just don’t see what the letter will gain.
‘If they want children to learn about Islam, then go teach them all about it and its history.
‘What I don’t want is a school asking my stepdaughter to look into reasons for converting to another religion.
‘Like every parent, it is our decision on how we raise them and once they are old enough to make decision, then it is there choice.’
Mr McLachlan visited the school to raise his concerns and was told that this was part of the curriculum and was shown example exam questions for Islam, Christianity and Hinduism.
The homework came to light when Mr McLachlan was looking through the youngster’s school planner and saw the teacher has written the task to be handed in on November 8.
He added: ‘When I saw this assignment in the planner, written by the teacher, you could have knocked me over with a feather.
‘I told her she will not be completing it and she is more worried about getting detention.
‘We send our kids to school to get a good education and use what they have learnt to have a good career.
‘I have no problem with them learning about religions but I feel they should not be asking 12-year-olds writing to their parents about why they are converting.
‘I just found the task wholly inappropriate.
‘I would like to emphasise how much respect I have for the head of year and deputy head who were very receptive to my complaint and concerns but unfortunately in this instance the national curriculum has failed miserably in my opinion.’…
Bodega says
Britain is finished for sure. Perhaps Trump should seriously consider extra vetting on anyone coming in from Britain. Natives Brits must have been having brain fryups for breakfast. It is so very sad. Has the Royal Court and House been dhimmified?
Englishman says
May I point out to ‘Bodega’, who appears to know very little about the UK, that we have existed for about a thousand years now and we have successfully survived civil wars, world wars and previous attempts to terrorise our citizens. You will, therefore, forgive me for thinking that this announcement of our imminent demise appears to be somewhat premature.
I hardly dare to imagine what ‘Bodega’ means by the phrase ‘Native Brit’, but as someone born in this country and able to trace my ancestry here back several hundred years, I can inform you that we have absorbed many waves of immigration from a wide variety of cultures since 1066 and will continue to do so. Of course, this process causes problems and a certain amount of friction but it is never insurmountable.
I take no pleasure in saying that the tribalism and the siege mentality displayed on this site are part of the problem rather than part of the solution.
Arthur says
Would you rate yourself in the “well-to-do” class or the “just-getting-by” class? Just curious.
Lebanon was a Christian country which absorbed Muslim immigrants and now…
Christina Hadleigh says
Arther, your SO RIGHT!!
le mouron rouge says
Englishman says
November 9, 2017 at 6:37 pm
May I point out to ‘Bodega’, who appears to know very little about the UK, that we have existed for about a thousand years now and we have successfully survived civil wars, world wars and previous attempts to terrorise our citizens. You will, therefore, forgive me for thinking that this announcement of our imminent demise appears to be somewhat premature.
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The real question is, will England survive now that she has become a Secular Humanist society?
How many churches in the UK have closed down in the past 10 years or so?
How many of those buildings are now Mosques?
It appears that the England that “was” is no longer the England that “is.”
“We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender.”
– Winston Churchill
Is that same determination alive and well in England today?
isntlam says
“The real question is, will England survive now that she has become a Secular Humanist society?”
The answer is “you’re dead”. The force of Islam will completely destroy every remnant of your past the way it does everywhere else.
You clearly live in denial of reality. It is horrifying and fascinating to see people like you being led like sheep to slaughter seemingly unaware of the magnitude of what is happening all around you.
Your state church and politicians have already surrendered to Islam.
A few decades ago England fought totalitarianism in Europe. Now it is importing it as quickly as possible. You all seem to have your heads up your asses where the news hasn’t yet arrived. England is dead. You can convert or be enslaved.
gravenimage says
isntlam, le mouron rouge is *not* in denial–he is asking some pointed questions of “Englishman”, who *does* appear to be in denial. Please reread the exchange.
Savvy Kafir says
Islam is unique, Englishman, and poses a unique threat to any society that takes in lots of imperialistic, fast-breeding Muslims.
You seem to know very little about Islam and its history around the world.
These are not Normans you’re dealing with now.
LeftisruiningCanada says
And there’s more than a few tens of thousands, which was considered a mass migration back in those days.
Westman says
My ancestry also goes back through England, like yours. However I am certain this, non-brain-drain wave of immigration, will not be well absorbed and that your offspring will be the ones being absorbed unless they fight to retain their freedom.
The past does not determine the future; the current conditions, decisions, and interactions determine the future.
gravenimage says
Englishman wrote;
…I can inform you that we have absorbed many waves of immigration from a wide variety of cultures since 1066 and will continue to do so. Of course, this process causes problems and a certain amount of friction but it is never insurmountable.
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Muslims are working to impose Shari’ah in Britain and the rest of the West–and too, often, foolish dhimmis like the ones in the story above are aiding them, knowingly or not.
Are you fine with living in an Islamized Britain? Are you fine with being an oppressed Infidel and paying the Jizya, or would you just convert to Islam?
Do you think Britain will be Britain in anything but name if she loses her civilized values and becomes just another stretch of barbaric Dar-al-Islam?
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I take no pleasure in saying that the tribalism and the siege mentality displayed on this site are part of the problem rather than part of the solution.
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This is only “tribalism” if you consider those who admire civilized British values to be a “tribe”–do you count yourself out here?
And what, exactly, do you consider the problem here? I have noticed that you do not say. Do you have a problem with Muslims slaughtering your fellow Britons, of do you just consider this another part of absorbing this flood of Muslim immigration?
What actual future do you see for Britain–or do you simply not care?
le mouron rouge says
gravenimage,
As usual, very well said!
A++
gravenimage says
Thank you, le mouron rouge.
RodSerling says
Englishman,
If what you are saying were true, currently the Muslim population in the U.K. would not be increasing and the non-Muslim population of indigenous Brits would at least be holding steady. The opposite is true.
What you don’t take into account regarding assimilation of immigrants is that nowadays Brits are having hardly any children, and there is no indication that this trend will change. They are not replacing themselves demographically; they have fertility rates well below replacement. They are diminishing generation by generation. Their authorities have no confidence in their own culture and want it to be “enriched” by all others–especially, it seems, by Islam. Politicians generally don’t want to touch the immigration issue and those who do are quickly excoriated and ostracized by our mainstream media (fourth estate, fifth column). Our Western leadership in most areas has become hobbled and weak, disoriented and confused by political correctness and threats of charges (or even the perception) of “racism” and “Islamophobia.”
Muslims in the U.K. and the West generally, however, are increasing in number due to relatively high fertility rates (higher than replacement level) plus a high rate of immigration, and other factors related to Islam (e.g., polygamy, emphasis on marriage and large families, emphasis on gaining political power, strict rules about the religion itself such as no apostasy, and conversion/outreach efforts to gain converts). Islamic doctrine contains specific directives for Muslims to outnumber non-Muslims by having large numbers of children, and numerous Muslim leaders, imams, etc., have been quoted stating that this policy is and should be used in the West to conquer it.
The scale of Islamic immigration is much higher than previous waves of immigration. Cultural and doctrinal aspects of Islam require that adherents not assimilate to any other culture.
High Hopes says
You have a declining birth rate and an immigrant population who will out breed you. Past comparisons do not apply in this instance, the tribalism you describe is a hallmark of the immigrants destined to inherit your beloved country, given the current projections.
Englishman says
An interesting variety of responses!
‘Arthur’: I am an ordinary pensioner, neither wealthy nor struggling. The history of Lebanon is long and extremely complicated so describing it as a Christian country is inaccurate.
‘le mouron rouge’: ‘England’, as any country, is essentially indefinable and constantly changing. Like anyone who has lived long enough to see some of those changes, I dislike some of them and approve of others but I prefer to live in a country that has not stagnated at some random point in its history. As for how many churches have been converted into mosques, I have no idea but it would be very few I think.
‘Savvy Kafir’: I’m certainly not an expert on Islam but it does not seem to me to be unique or to pose a unique threat.
‘Westman’: You are correct that the past is only an indication of the future, not a determining factor. The idea that people need to “fight to retain their freedom” may mean many different things depending on the circumstances and who is saying it.
‘gravenimage’: Yes, there are some Muslims working to impose Shari’ah in the UK. Fortunately, we have a reasonably democratic political system here (as you have there) that resists the imposition of any particular religion from forcing its rules on society as a whole. Of course, we lack your secular Constitution so the Church of England still has its place in the machinery of state but, in practice, this has a negligible effect on everyday life here. As for “This is only ‘tribalism’ if you consider those who admire civilized British values to be a tribe…”, the point here would be what you would consider to be ‘civilized British values’? If that includes dictating which religions are allowed and which are not, then I would consider that to be tribalism.
‘RodSerling’: Some of what you say is true so, yes, there is a problem (as I said in my previous post) but the vast majority of Muslims in this country are well-integrated and clearly do not support the ideas of extremist imams.
gravenimage says
Englishman wrote:
An interesting variety of responses!
‘Arthur’: I am an ordinary pensioner, neither wealthy nor struggling. The history of Lebanon is long and extremely complicated so describing it as a Christian country is inaccurate.
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Lebanon was a majority-Christian country *until the 1970s*–this is well within living memory. It only ceased to be with the invasion of “Palestinian” Muslims, who then launched a vicious Jihad against them.
Does this mean you would have no problem with London being essentially turned into Beirut as it was in the 1970s and ’80s?
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‘le mouron rouge’: ‘England’, as any country, is essentially indefinable and constantly changing. Like anyone who has lived long enough to see some of those changes, I dislike some of them and approve of others but I prefer to live in a country that has not stagnated at some random point in its history.
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Of course things change all the time–but the idea that it is not really of much consequence, as you imply, whether England continues to evolve as a civilized modern nation or whether is becomes a chaotic, violent, oppressive Muslim country like Yemen or Somalia is just madness.
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As for how many churches have been converted into mosques, I have no idea but it would be very few I think.
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I don’t have exact figures for Churches converted into Mosques, but there are these disturbing figures:
“Londonistan: 423 New Mosques; 500 Closed Churches”
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/10124/london-mosques-churches
Whether you are religious or not, surely you grasp that England will be a *much* different nation depending on whether it is majority-Christian or majority-Muslim? Unless, of course, you are fine with brutal Shari’ah law?
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‘Savvy Kafir’: I’m certainly not an expert on Islam but it does not seem to me to be unique or to pose a unique threat.
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I think you need to learn something about what Islam truly is, and what it teachers–the violent submission of all to Islam, and the oppression of Infidels.
And then, just look at any Muslim-majority nation and compare it to your own civilized culture. Do you *really* want to see England become like Afghanistan or the Islamic State?
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‘Westman’: You are correct that the past is only an indication of the future, not a determining factor. The idea that people need to “fight to retain their freedom” may mean many different things depending on the circumstances and who is saying it.
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Does fighting for your freedom mean anything *to you personally*? It certainly doesn’t sound like it. English culture and values are the result of centuries of efforts by brave and principled people; are you willing to passively throw this all away in the next few years, in favor of a barbaric creed?
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‘gravenimage’: Yes, there are some Muslims working to impose Shari’ah in the UK. Fortunately, we have a reasonably democratic political system here (as you have there) that resists the imposition of any particular religion from forcing its rules on society as a whole.
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Shari’ah is already beginning to creep into British society–there are already problems with their oppression of women, including sending women back to men who beat or even “Honor Kill” them:
“Sharia courts in UK face Government inquiry over treatment of women”
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/sharia-courts-in-uk-face-government-probe-over-treatment-of-women-a7049826.html
*Surely* you are not OK with this?
And if Muslims reach a large enough part of the population, they will vote to change England’s civilized laws.
And some are not even waiting for that–there are No Go Zones like Tower Hamlets that are already ipso facto Shari’ah zones, replete with patrols by religious police.
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Of course, we lack your secular Constitution so the Church of England still has its place in the machinery of state but, in practice, this has a negligible effect on everyday life here.
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Of course, this is true–but we are not talking about the influence of the Church of England, but of aggressive, violent, and supremacist Islam.
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As for “This is only ‘tribalism’ if you consider those who admire civilized British values to be a tribe…”, the point here would be what you would consider to be ‘civilized British values’?
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Well, *this* is depressing–can it be true that you have no idea what British values are? No wonder you are not inclined to defend them.
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If that includes dictating which religions are allowed and which are not, then I would consider that to be tribalism.
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If by “religions allowed” with regard to Islam you mean Muslims praying five times a day and observing Ramadan, I agree.
If you are also including the Islamic diktats to force submission to Islam by all and to impose brutal Shari’ah, then not so much.
Do you *really* think that this will not destroy British society?
Would you have also considered it “tribalism” when the British balked at a Nazi conquest?
My mother and aunt joined the British Army in WWII as young women to resist the Fascist attack. Would you condemn them as “tribal” for this?
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‘RodSerling’: Some of what you say is true so, yes, there is a problem (as I said in my previous post) but the vast majority of Muslims in this country are well-integrated and clearly do not support the ideas of extremist imams.
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There is nothing “extremist” about “extremist Imams”–they are preaching mainstream Islam.
Here are some alarming statistics:
More than 100,000 British Muslims sympathize with suicide bombers and people who commit other terrorist acts. Moreover, only one in three British Muslims (34%) would contact the police if they believed that somebody close to them had become involved with jihadists.
Almost a quarter of Muslims in Britain openly say that Shari’ah law should replace British law in areas with large Muslim populations.
35% of Muslims condemn Jews being allowed to hold any positions of power.
52% say that homosexuality should be illegal.
Almost a third think that polygamy should be legal–the percentage is well over a third among younger Muslims.Thirty-nine percent of Muslims surveyed believe women should always obey their husbands.
One in three British Muslims refuse completely to condemn the stoning of women accused of adultery.
https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/7861/british-muslims-survey
At least, I consider this alarming–perhaps you do not, but just consider it neutral ‘change’.
I am also alarmed with skyrocketing rates of FGM, polygamy, “Honor Killings”, attacks on Jewish people, and violent Jihad against all non-Muslims. Are you?
Cunamarra says
May I point out to the Englishman that the current generations of people living in what was once Great Britain are not the same people as their ancestors. They are exceptionally weak in mind, body and spirit. You may have some sketchy knowledge about the history of Britain, but the history of Islam’s effect on the nations that it conquered seems lost on you. With Britain’s current dementia I see it fairing about as well as the civilizations of Byzantium, Egypt, Persian, and the Indian subcontinent did under Islam. Islam has worked real wonders in those areas.
Islam is a political system. If you think that it is a system that doesn’t include strict and explicit restrictions on “what religions are allowed,” then you and your nation are going to get just deserts. Crying “but we didn’t know” won’t earn you forgiveness.
Have you tried reading the Koran or referencing through the Umdat al Salik? I would imagine not. If you are on a pension I can only imagine you are, like the young of your nation, too feeble to put up any resistance, intellectual or otherwise.
It pains me to be so condescending toward the people of Europe, you and people like you. My attitude toward other nations of the Anglo-sphere is teetering on the fence. However, bearing witness to each piece of news out of your country from whoring your daughters out to Muslim rape gangs to defending your new overlords deems adopting a more cordial attitude to be throwing pearls before swine.
Englishman says
‘Cunamarra’, thank you for your condescention; as an Englishman, I’m thoroughly accustomed to being insulted! Your knowledge and understanding of Islam and its success as a political system are very impressive but the extreme nature of the views and emotions expressed in your post suggest to me that you may be as much of a problem to reasonable society as the Muslim extremists you oppose.
Cicero says
Englishman says to Cunamara you are as much of a problem as..”. Englishman is merely one example of the way considerable swathes of indigenous Britshers think about migration and migration from a specific community.
If people on this site are emotional it s because our voices are not being heard either in the corridors of power or in the MSM. We can see th dangers of untrammelled immigration . Britishers like Englishman view the world from a mindset which assumes that other non – European communities swelling impregnably within the British welfare state entertain the same values and if, they blithely believe that , in time these impregnated and impregnable communities will come to assimilate and integrate and adopt the prevailing British ethos .
This is not the case. Poor English,an ( f he is English and not a troll). He s one of those rushing headlong into the abyss of British cultural gnocide. This is not hyperbole. I am not being emotional either.
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gravenimage says
Wait–now “Englishman” is saying that opposing Jihad is as much of a threat as waging it?
flo says
It is alright to accept immigration but not the muslim. This is because muslims are different they will not want to be ruled by others but they want to rule over others. Accepting muslim immigrants will only mean that the host country will be taken over by these evil people.
Anne Smith says
Flo makes a valid point. Muslim immigrants alone among the waves of immigrants who have come to Britain over many years, DO NOT WANT TO INTEGRATE NA ACCEPT OUR VALUES.
They have come to conquer and will do so by many, devious and varied means.
Anne says
Tribalism .. I too can trace my ancestry back several thousand years in the Uk. .. Islam has had a terrible effect on many people including me . I cannot think of any other culture that has done so much damage to others that Islam has done . It’s no wonder that people are raw. You only get one chance to make a good impression, and Islam made a huge mistake , although it doesn’t see its behaviour as wrong at all. I do . And I intend to give Islam a very short shift indeed !
R Russell says
Englishman,
Where is your evidence that ‘the UK’ has existed for c.1000 years?
I suggest you brush up on your own history before you make any other historical faux pas.
Maybe you prefer your own brand of ‘revisionist UK history’.
Englishman says
R Russell, you are quite correct in saying that the UK has not existed for 1000 years and I admit my wording in that post was imprecise. I will take this as encouragement to criticise other people’s posts here for any slight errors or lack of precision. I would, of course, be happy to debate what may or may not count as revisionism in UK history with you if you like.
solsticewitch13 says
Looks like Englishman’s country is handing whole areas over to islam,,, he probably lives in the wealthier areas, that haven’t been forced to get on the diversity band wagon. Multiculturalism has a way of handing your town away to hostile invaders when islam is involved. No more diversity BS and multicultralism for Yorkshire, the white people has disappeared.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3899540/Go-away-shouldn-t-Don-t-come-corner-Yorkshire-no-white-residents.html
Englishman says
‘solsticewitch 13’, actually I live in one of the more deprived areas of the country which has been predominantly white working class until recently. In the last ten years refugees from the Central African Republic and Syria have come to live here and have integrated into the community without any problems. The Daily Mail has ideological reasons for wanting to slant that story in the way they have. It’s interesting that we tend to see only those articles that disagree with our view of the world as ‘fake news’.
gravenimage says
So, Englishman–it sounds as though you are fine with British children being taught in school to convert to Islam, with no such lessons instructing any other form of conversion. Is this the case?
Cunamarra says
Englishman. Have you ever considered the possibility that your position may be wrong? I recognize that Islam is a political system that will never allow equality before the law. It can and will not recognize as Rights; life and liberty. Maiming, brutality, death is Islam’s solution for all things it defines as “offensive.” Far too many values of a reasonable society qualify as offensive from an Islamic premise.
“…the extreme nature of the views and emotions expressed in your
post suggest to me that you may be as much of a problem to
reasonable society as the Muslim extremists you oppose.”
The moral and intellectual perversion required to make the above statement is astonishing. Expressing disgust for a society which produces “officials” who protect not young girls from rape gangs but the rape gangs from the victims’ families and even from criticism is the correct reaction from a civilized person.
Being horrified by a culture that murders its daughters because they believe it is the “honorable” thing to do is the correct emotional response from a reasonable person and a reasonable society.
For you to equate my attitude toward and rejection of such abominations with the people who engage in such practices and with the fiends who welcome such practices into a nation that once was Britain allows me only to conclude that you do not live in a reasonable society nor could you possible know what one looks like. If you are on a pension, this means that your society has been so odiously dysfunctional for such a span that you don’t have a memory of what a moral and reasonable society is.
Contempt, condescension and pity, ugly attitudes to be sure, are well deserved by the society you and people like you have chosen to build. The monstrous position you hold cannot be natural. Your mind must have been twisted by that society and your schizophrenic thinking has to have been learned. You can unlearn it.
Cicero says
Dear” Englishman” it is the well intentioned , tolerant but naive mind set such as yours which is facilitating the downfall of “ British culture “ and civilisation as we know and respect it.
Yes Britain as an island has had phases of migration over th centuries from Europe and subsequently her ex-colonies. However Such waves of migration did not swamp and then subvert the demographic and infrastructure of this “ green and pleasant land” . The intention was not to subvert from within and dismantle the values of. British society.
Mo says
@ Englishman
(Taking the end of the comment first.)
I take no pleasure in saying that the tribalism and the siege mentality displayed on this site are part of the problem rather than part of the solution.
This silly comment demonstrated you know zero about this site or the contents within. The first portion of your comment proves that as well.
“May I point out to ‘Bodega’, who appears to know very little about the UK,”
He/she knows currents facts – that you are being taken over by a death cult that teaches you must convert, submit, or die. (Which statement is backed up by the facts of the ever-increasing slaughter of your citizens, the abuse of little girls, and the seeming impotence and even complicity of your law enforcement and politicians in dealing with any of it.)
” that we have existed for about a thousand years now and we have successfully survived civil wars, world wars and previous attempts to terrorise our citizens.”
Can you tell me when you have faced a threat like this? A threat from a totalitarian religion that demands you convert, submit, or die? Can you tell me when you’ve faced this level of unchecked/poorly vetted immigration from members of this totalitarian religion that demands you convert, submit, or die?
” You will, therefore, forgive me for thinking that this announcement of our imminent demise appears to be somewhat premature.”
You will, therefore, forgive me for thinking that you are one of those asleep there, who cannot and will not face reality.
“I hardly dare to imagine what ‘Bodega’ means by the phrase ‘Native Brit’, but as someone born in this country and able to trace my ancestry here back several hundred years, I can inform you that we have absorbed many waves of immigration from a wide variety of cultures since 1066 and will continue to do so.”
Can you tell me how a country can “absorb” a mass wave of unvetted immigrants who follow a death cult that teaches you must convert, submit, or die?
Answer me. Do not ignore me or change the topic, I want to know your specific answers to these specific questions.
Englishman says
Mo, I’ll answer your post first and then look at the other posts and try to respond to them (although I seem to be a bit outnumbered here). I must admit I knew nothing about this site until I was directed to it from the blog of someone with whom I was having a conversation. I was taken by surprise by the vehemence of the criticism of my home by what appeared to me to be a lot of people gathered in a place where they felt safe to agree with each other. This may be an entirely mistaken impression but the responses I’ve encountered so far have not yet shown it to be a false one.
You assume that Bodega knows more facts about the UK than do I but what you offer as facts to support this view are disputable at the very least.
Yes, I can tell you that we have faced threats like this before (Catholicism ruled this country for quite some time, executing people who did not submit to its authority and the Protestantism that replaced it sometimes followed that example) and no, I am not asleep, complacent, naive or unable to face the reality of the problems that Muslim immigration can cause.
Now I have a question for you: what do you suggest I do about this invasion?
Joe says
Englishman says:
“I live in one of the more deprived areas of the country which has been predominantly white working class until recently. In the last ten years refugees from the Central African Republic and Syria have come to live here and have integrated into the community without any problems.”
It is manifest that you are a liar. How is it that there are now (finally) convictions for the industrial scale rape of white schoolgirls by immigrants in precisely the type of town you describe? There’s not been 30 years of reports of gangs of indigenous Englishmen going round and systematically raping Asian or black schoolgirls. Because we don’t prey on vulnerable minorities.
How is it that at less than 5% of the population, Muslim immigrants are half of those in high security prison? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3277502/First-UK-jail-half-inmates-Muslim-pressured-convert-Islamic-protection-racket.html That’s really great integration you have going on there. Would you be so sanguine if there were anti-Muslim terrorists in proportion of Muslim terrorists? At 1/20th of the UK population, Muslims are responsible for almost all terrorism. If we Brits fought back, there’d be 19x as much terrorism as there is. Imagine if for every terrorist attack, 19 mosques and the inhabitants were blown up. Do you think perhaps that might look like there was a civil war going on? Do you think you’d feel safe in your enriched area if the native Brits employed tit for tat, rather than just accept each terrorist attack by Muslims?
How are Muslims integrating when 50% of all non-pork meat in the UK is halal? If they were integrating Muslims would be forgoing halal, not forcing it on all of us (my Jewish friends eat pork – that’s integration). http://researchbriefings.files.parliament.uk/documents/SN01314/SN01314.pdf Instead of integrating with the British way of life, it is the British way of life which is being made to be Islamic. I’d wager that every day the average Brit is unwittingly eating unmarked halal meat. What kind of integration is that?
Wait until you are the victim of repeated, violent racist assaults by these new immigrants. Then find out when you dial 999 for the police, that the police won’t come out, that they insist that you must be the cause of the racist violence. When after 3 days and multiple complaints the police finally do attend the scene of the crime, they refuse to install CCTV and they close the case for “lack of evidence”. That brick which came through your window is still lying there, but that doesn’t constitute evidence. You can be damn sure that if it was a Muslim family who had been subjected to that treatment, the police would install CCTV to catch the thugs. Whenever there was even so much as the suspicion there was an EDL demo in my area, every single mosque/madrassa had a permanent police guard all day long. Plenty of resources available on the mere suspicion of possible violence when it is the Brits who might be violent.
A black policewoman’s advice to my (multi-racial) household was: leave, find yourself some town that’s not yet been culturally enriched. The ex Muslim police officer who attended another time told me that she had grown up in that enriched area, but she would face being murdered if she lived there now because she’d married an Englishman without getting him to convert. She (an immigrant) was safe in a village that was almost entirely indigenous Brits; I was not safe in a city in my own country.
Once you realise that the laws against hate crime don’t apply when an enricher is the perpetrator of the violent hatred, maybe you’ll get a clue.
We were relatively lucky. We didn’t have bullets come through our windows, as a neighbour did. She and her baby were in that room. Her crime? She’d complained to a group of Muslim men that in reversing their car they almost drove over her baby. Unlike me, she was a social housing tenant, so it was far harder for her to move to an unenriched part of the country. Since the bullets clearly didn’t kill her, a few nights later petrol was put through her letterbox and her home set on fire.
I was a naïve idiot like you. Even being told by Muslims in my area that they gleefully indulged in racist attacks on lone white men wasn’t enough to make me leave. Being attacked in my own home, and finding that the police would side with the violent racists, I finally woke up to what is coming.
James says
Britain is very far from finished, and prematurely throwing in the towel is not going to help those of us whose country Britain is. It’s very strange, and odd as well as disappointing, that although people in the US have plenty of grit for dealing with problems in their own country, they seem regrettably eager to throw other countries that are dealing with problems into the dustbin. That is not the kind of attitude one expects from an ally.
Giving up on countries that have problems, instead of giving them moral support so they can overcome those problems, is pretty despicable. That is one treats an enemy, not an ally. If we are in such a bad way, all the more reason to avoid stabbing us in the back.
Cunamarra says
Your nation is in dire straights. With stories like the one above and too many that are far worse pouring out of your nation, it makes it very difficult to have respect for what was once a fine nation of fine people. It reminds me too much of an abused woman who keeps returning to a man who inflicts every degradation upon her and her children while bemoaning the goodness of the man she left and who fathered those children. All the while spitting vitriol at those who criticize the abuser she defends.
gravenimage says
Patriotic Britons need to stand up for their civilized society!
Anne Smith says
Unfortunately when they do that they are likely to be arrested and hauled off to the courts for “hate speech” or “Islamophobia”.
The Police have become the tools of the Islamic invaders. Just take a look at the Youtube coverage of Britain First and the brave Jayda Fransen. I do not think anyone can watch that and not come to the conclusion that the Police are being instructed to act to shut down all criticism of Muslims and their antics.
Carolyne says
Were you English actually dealing with the problem in any way to
Preserve your country, your culture and your heritage, we in the US would gladly be by your side. However you are merely waving the white flag of surrender to this uncivilized barbarian invasion. We fought with you in two world wars but it seems you no longer have the stomach to fight Islam, the most dangerous of any enemy you have ever faced.
As for Muslims having been assimilated into British society, you likely have not sat on a bench in Kensington Park as I have done and watched humans encased in black garbage bags parading.
MSW says
It’s the bloody government who let them in and who tell authorities to let muslims do what they want, who arrest us if we dare complain, or lose our jobs, homes, kids too, not the people. You know f.ck all about the English people.
Arasu says
Why are the people of Britain putting up with this kind of government? If the people are sufficiently outraged, as you seem to think, why is a party like UKIP doing so badly in elections? I know UKIP has its internal problem, but surely giving them a boost in the elections will send a strong message to Labour and the Tories that people will no longer tolerate their nonsensical policies?
gravenimage says
Many in the UK are in denial about the threat of Islam–as is true in much of the West.
Just look at a poster like “Englishman” here (assuming that he is being honest, and is not a troll).
le mouron rouge says
gravenimage says
November 10, 2017 at 2:01 pm
Many in the UK are in denial about the threat of Islam–as is true in much of the West.
Just look at a poster like “Englishman” here (assuming that he is being honest, and is not a troll).
******************************
After reading “Englishman’s” post, I tend to agree with your analysis that he might be a troll.
Possibly James?
Anyway, thank you for your informative posts and challenging posts.
“To argue with a person who has denounced the use of reason is like administering medicine to the dead.”
– Thomas Paine (1737-1809)
gravenimage says
Thank you, le mouron rouge.
Anne Smith says
@ Arasu
You are so right, it is a pity that Nigel left the Party in such a poor administrative state but it is regrouping for the fight ahead, under its new leader, Henry Bolton.
UKIP seems to be our last hope, Mrs May appears to be about as much use as a chocolate teapot.
Mo says
@ MSW
“It’s the bloody government who let them in and who tell authorities to let muslims do what they want, ”
Last I heard, you were still a free country. So vote out those politicians and get new leadership!
“who arrest us if we dare complain, or lose our jobs, homes, kids too, not the people. You know f.ck all about the English people.”
Go swear at someone else, you foul mouthed person.
Instead of directing your anger and filth toward me and others who are telling you the truth for your own good, why not channel that anger toward STANDING UP for your country, REGARDLESS of the cost? Because you know what? If you don’t take that risk now, pretty soon you won’t have a job, a home, a family or a country.
But as with most situations in life, it’s easier to be angry at those who simply speak unpleasant truths in an effort to help you, than it is to actually face and deal with the unpleasant problem itself.
gravenimage says
Spot on, Mo.
PATRICIA FRANCES KOENIG says
What is wrong with the UK??? They are the worst enablers of Islamic supremacy!!! Who controls UK???
Bodega says
I bet Soros has a big hand in all of this. He is a truly evil man. I think he is training of of his sons, too.
gravenimage says
I doubt that Soros directly had a hand in this specific class assignment–it does not appear to be a wider part of the curriculum. But his nasty world-view *is* quite widespread among teachers clueless about the threat of Islam.
Christina Hadleigh says
Soros has created the financial control of the EU, and the UK, he has tried to do the same thing in the USA with the clintons, obamas, the cia, and the newest pope ( sorry but they don’t deserve a capital letter at the beginning of their names), but I think Trump will eventually kick their arses including the pope’s arse…..
le mouron rouge says
Think United Nations and Agenda 21, which has been updated to Agenda 30.
It appears that the re-distribution of people is a necessary step in the process of eliminating borders and national sovereignty.
It seems that the U.N.’s goal is to flood the west with people who will not assimilate and therefore help to expedite the process.
According to the U.N. we are now citizens of the world!
And yes, Soros being part of the “global elite” most certainly has a part in the process.
Sadly, the situation is only going to get worse, not better, batten down the hatches.
Billy Chickens says
Think Sir Richard von Cudenhoven-Kalergi.
le mouron rouge says
Billy Chickens,
Thank you for the information.
James says
Thks is a single incident. It’s not even indefensible, either. It is not remotely comparable to a crime, like the Manchester bombing. For children to take part in imaginative exercises, such as this is, is entirely normal. Maybe US education is different, but for Britain, it’s normal.
Reacting in the same way to a thing like this, and to a massacre, just because Islam has some connection to both, is an over-reaction.
High Hopes says
It is a softening up process, and you only have to reverse the exercise and request muslim children to write about converting to Christianity to understand this.
Kay says
@James
It was a horrible assignment. It’s actually the opposite of multiculturalism, which would mean respecting each one’s culture. The 12-year-old’s own culture and religion should have been respected. I know of no religion where a 12-year-old informing parents she was leaving her own religion for another would not be a major problem in the family. This assignment, which you call “imaginative” asks children to “imagine” defying their own families. That is not good teaching. I’d say it is a form of abuse.
Twelve year olds are very influenced by authority, which is evidenced by the step-father’s comment:
‘I told her she will not be completing it and she is more worried about getting detention.’
MSW says
No, you are wrong. It is far more insidious and invasive than you believe it is. Parents have a right to react strongly, as do other posters who know what is going on, unlike a moron like you.
gravenimage says
James, there is violent Jihad, then there–as here–stealth Jihad.
Both are intended to Islamize the Infidels and spread Islam in Dar-al-Harb.
The purpose of violent Jihad is to force the Infidels to submit to Islam–the purpose of stealth Jihad is the same.
These are just two different tactics with the same goal.
Carolyne says
And both appear to be succeeding in England.
MSW says
It’s the bloody government who let them in and allow them to do what they want. We don’t have guns here like in America. People here have been losing their jobs, homes and threatened with losing their kids if they speak out. Get your facts right before you make ignorant comments.d
gravenimage says
UK school assignment for 12-year-olds: “Write a letter to family about converting to Islam”
…………………………
Softening them up for when Muslims takeover? Or–even worse–hoping they will be part of that takeover themselves?
Probably not–more likely whoever formulated this assignment thought it would be a way to shake up the ‘complacency’ of white British kids and get them to identify with minorities.
But the former is the actual effect this might have on some–especially on those who don’t have strong, principled parents like the girl in the story above.
And, yes–if Muslims had been given such an assignment about converting to Christianity or Judaism, I can just imagine the howls of outrage over “Islamophobia” and even “racism”.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Perhaps practicing to write letters of conversion to islam will actually be of use in the future these kids are going to inherit?
If it’s anything like the musings of “Submission’ by Houellebecq, converting will be necessary for anyone working in public service, education etc, or if you just want to get ahead.
gravenimage says
This is *exactly* what will happen if patriotic Britons don’t start defending their civilized culture.
Glad to see the father in the story fighting back!
LeftisruiningCanada says
Yes. Most brits are pretty level headed if you ask me. To them, muslims are actually fairly comical, with all their prostrations, funny clothes and allahu akbaring. All this craziness is bing carried on by people with too little to occupy themselves, like politicians, lefty activists, billionaire oil sheikh’s etc.
gravenimage says
True–but Britons will have to begin really standing up to this insanity if they want to survive.
Cicero says
This is so true. I know someone who works in a local government office where over a period of five years the Muslim administrator has steadily been appointing bearded Muslim men to the subordinate finance and It posts under her authority.
The non -Muslim staff have noticed this development and talk amongst themselves but no one dares to raise this or even maple an observation for fear f being hounded out f their jobs. This s in a South London borough. Imagine this. Being replicated all ver Boroghs and Counties n the UK.
gravenimage says
Very disturbing There will be much more of this.
gravenimage says
Left out a period:
Very disturbing. There will be much more of this.
Anne Smith says
At the moment if you want to get ahead you have to undergo a “Common Purpose ” Marxist doctrine training course, so it will be a short jump to conversion. They have already been softened up.
brane pilot says
UK school assignment for 12 year olds; write a letter to family to be read after you blow yourself up in a daycare center.
gravenimage says
+1
LeftisruiningCanada says
Right on – Students, today we will read the koran, construct a suicide belt out of tape and cardboard tubes, and practice writing a suicide note praising allah and the glorious jihad. Show and tell at 11am, inshallah.
IndianTiger says
This is Churchill’s England? Shame on dhimmi Brits! Insist on assignments like “write letter to family about converting to Christianity”.
utis says
I remember the phrase, “There will always be an England” from my youth. I never thought I would live to see the day when I could say, “There isn’t one now!” My Irish immigrant ancestors would be happy about that. I’m not.
gravenimage says
I am part Irish, as well. An Islamized England will just horribly endanger Ireland, whether they realize it or not.
Carolyne says
The second line of that song is:
“And England shall be free,”
Is no longer applicable.
Michael Copeland says
When I convert, I’ll choose the name Yusuf,
The one I’ve always liked so well.
I’d also really like to have it linked with Idi,
An admirable leader, true to tell.
Then remember Otman, such a wise old scholar.
Famous name! I’ll add it if I can.
So put them all together,
Say it loud in every weather,
I’m your Yusuf ul-Idi Otman,
Yes, your Yusuf ul-Idi Otman.
Arthur says
Clever!
gravenimage says
Michael, that is *brilliant*!
LeftisruiningCanada says
Nice :thumbs:
Cicero says
Fabulous
ChristianBosnia says
Once upon a time in the Balkans when the Ottoman Empire ruled over that region were a thing called Janissaries.Janissaries were kidnappned Christian boys who were forced to convert to Islam in order to be slave army of the Ottoman sultan.The country where I was born,Bosnia-Herzegovina was a recruitment ground for the Ottoman slave army due to the Christian population which existed and that was another factor how Bosnia became Islamized in the centuries after the Ottoman conquest.As the Ottoman Empire expanded Janissaries where Serbs,Bosnians,Croats,Albanians,Bulgarian,Romanians and in some instances Russians and Ukranians.As a sign of obedience to the Ottomans the Balkan Christian population was forced to pay a “blood tax” whoch required them to give a healthy male child for the Ottoman slave army.This in the UK and the West when it comes to children indoctrinationg to Islam isn’t a preparation for a life in dhimmitude,they are preparing them for the life in the Muslim slave army just like the Ottomans did in the Balkans during the Ottoman conquests
ChristianBosnia says
Correction:were and required must that I typed fast
Anne Smith says
Yes, and it to our eternal disgrace that John Major interfered in the fall out in the Balkans and sent our Army in to fight on behalf of the Muslims who didn’t belong there in the first place.
Still what can you expect from a poorly educated man who knew nothing and was impressed mightily by the Arab dominated UN?
gravenimage says
All grimly true. Girl children were also part of this horrifying “tax”, used in the Harems or sold at the slave markets as sex slaves.
ChristianBosnia says
Exactly,interestigly there was one non-muslim group which was exempted from the “blood tax”-Jews.The Ottomans couldn’t trust any Jews in their slave army.Another interersting practice was Christian tattooing.In Bosnia during the rule of the Ottomans,Catholic women tattooed their children,so when they were taken away by the Ottomans if they ever returned to their former place of birth they would recognize them
gravenimage says
Yes–the threatened Copts frequently tattoo their children today.
Kay says
Heartbreaking.
I hope the offspring—if generations later— of those kidnapped children will find freedom from the awful creed they were born to and return to the faith of their ancestors.
gravenimage says
Some few did; many did not.
billybob says
She should write a letter explaining why she will NOT convert to Islam, thereby completing the assignment and having a chance to do some independent research on Islam.
Dapto says
Hurry up May just ban Christians and all its followers from praying anywhere but at home, no more churches are to be built and and all remaining churches are to be converted to mosques.
Sarah says
“‘We send our kids to school to get a good education and use what they have learnt to have a good career.”
Well if that is your aim – then wake up and send them to a good private school.And for Pete’s sake, RESEARCH. Find a good private school and research its curriculum and its methodology and its overall ideological approach.Hire tutors to supplement as well. Stop lazily assuming that just enrolling your kids in school is enough effort.
Because dollars to donuts you’ve all got smartphones. Big TVs, tablets, more bedrooms in the house than you really need etc etc etc. Prioritize their education. A public education is the bare spanking minimum and we all know it.
This is what you get if you ask the State to educate your kids because you can’t or won’t find the money to privately educate your children. It doesn’t matter that I agree with your sentiments here about the ridiculousness of this homework assignment. This is a public school. Get off your backside’s and get your kids the hell out of it if you ‘expect’ better for them.
Just because this school is an Academy – does not mean you’ve done ‘better’ than shoving your kid in some basic Comprehensive. Its still a state funded school where its curriculum is largely based solely on the National Curriculum. Find the money and send your kids to a British ‘Public’ School. (Ironically, the Brits call a private school, a ‘public’ school, don’t ask me why).
You think your kids are going to be asked to waste their time on this kind of schoolwork at a place like Eton or Winchester?
LeftisruiningCanada says
Agreed. State run schools are more and more about producing the desired kind of ‘social being’, at least that’s what they openly state here in Canada. More and more time spent on indoctrination into whatever the latest political fad movement needs the kids to believe.
MSW says
You really are an idiot. Private schools are way out of nearly all people, bar the rich. Many people barely make enough to pay the rent, bills and eat and in some cases, no food, hence foodbank use. So how the bloody hell are they suppose to afford a private school????????
Jack Diamond says
But what if the latter were something like:
“Dear Father & Mother, I am now a Muslim and must hate you for your kuffar. Allah has called me to fight for his cause, defeat his enemies, kill the unbelievers, smite them in their necks, smile in their faces while hating them in my heart, and work until the entire world is under the authority of Allah’s law.
Also I won’t be using toilet paper.
If I’m late from school tonight it’s because I had to slaughter a Jew to guarantee a place in Paradise; then, go on the BBC to cry about the continued unjust persecution of peaceful Muslims after the last Zionist planned terrorist attack blamed on Muslims; then, secretly plan the next jihad act of worship on some more little kaffir whores attending a filthy satanic pop concert. The better to strike terror into the hearts of the unbelievers and advance Islam, until all submit to Allah and His Messenger (pbuh). Because if anyone even desires another religion it will never be accepted. I learned that from Allah today.
Remember to give a portion of my next allowance to Hamas. Oh, and make sure the supper tonight is halal. Or else.
Allahu akbar,
Little Johnny al-Baghdadi. Your little Monster.
billybob says
Good one – A+
Hugo Hackenbush says
D’OH! You beat me to the “sample letter” sarcasm! But, you might want to add the following: “And another thing mom and dad, I can now find validation for my psychopathic and pedophilic tendencies of which you were unaware. But, hey, it’s ‘the word O’ god’ so get with the program and watch your step!”.
MSW says
It’s not the word of God. It’s the word of mohammed who came up with this evil. allah does not mean God, and it’s worship of a stone deity and Baal worship.
gravenimage says
Grimly brilliant, Jack.
Anne Smith says
Good template for parents to use.
Arthur says
Here’s my attempt at completing the class assignment:
Write a letter to your family about converting to Islam.
First, I will change my name to Aisha, because good Muslims have Arabic names and Aisha was Mohammad’s favorite of his ~7 wives. Next, I will seek out an elder Muslim woman to mutilate my genitals so that I will never desire sex and be more attractive to Muslim men who prefer mutilated women. This is in keeping with Shari’a law that states “Circumcision is obligatory (for every male and female) by cutting off the piece of skin on the glans of the penis of the male, but circumcision of the female is by cutting out the clitoris,” (Reliance of the Traveller, e4.3).
Then I will ask my father to marry me off, as soon as possible, to a Muslim man. As a Muslim woman, I am only allowed to marry Muslim men. Mohammad married Aisha at 6, and at 12 years old I’m practically an old maid. As I start having babies for my man, I will probably have to drop out of school to care for them.
I will come to school everyday dressed so as not to appear attractive and will keep my head and shoulders covered. I will not wear jewelry that makes sounds. I will pray 5 times a day, being careful to always pray behind men because Mohammad said that prayers are undone if a woman walks between a praying man and Mecca. I may have to skip some classes to pray, but Islam is the true source of knowledge. I will stop eating pork or any meat that does not undergo cruel halal slaughter.
I will discontinue all friendships with non-Muslims, because Koran 3:28 says believers should not take kafirs as friends in preference to other believers. I will stop speaking with my unbeliever family, since I will be busy living as a married woman raising children. Finally, I will hope that at least one of my children secures a place in paradise by dying fighting in jihad.
I will never leave Islam, because the penalty for leaving Islam (apostasy) is death.
–12 yr old girl
le mouron rouge says
Arthur,
Excellent.
A+
LeftisruiningCanada says
We can only hope a student at the school doing this assignment replies like that. They’ll get an F, maybe expelled, but it would show they have truly learned something in RE class.
MSW says
It’s not circumcision for a female, it’s genital mutilation, nothing more, nothing less for a women. For the men is it circumcision.
gravenimage says
+1
Karina says
Islam aside, why is the teacher even talking about religious conversions for minors?
I’m strongly against minors converting to another religion. I don’t see how any sane parent would allow that or even fathom that, even if it was for a school assignment.
MFritz says
Show a picture of the teacher who gave the assignment and you know the FULL story.
LeftisruiningCanada says
How right you are MFritz
No Fear says
“Dear Family, you have to choose between science or Islam. Science offers a process of continuous improvement of our model of reality, based on peer reviews. Islam offers a violent version of reality invented by a 7th century supremacist gangster rapist warlord who killed anyone who refused to obey him. The choice is yours.”
St. Manuel II Palaiologos says
They’re a parody of themselves.
mortimer says
The Kepier School authorities should all be fired immediately.
Lydia says
Uh, no.
The assignment needs to be:
Write a letter to everyone about how you helped a muslim convert to Christianity, after you just did the same thing.
Just so you know, that is the sort of thing I would do. If I was a teacher and this came from above, I would write the sentence above on the board instead. If they can do the first one, they can do this one too, otherwise it is discrimination. If I am the student, that is the letter I would write; about the prompt I just wrote above instead, and if the teacher complains I will give them the same answer.
And the list goes on. If they want to come after me, let them! I will fight it legally, but come what may, I won’t comply with their request no matter what. That is the difference between a real Christian and a false convert or one who falls away; they will comply. When they do, that is how they fall away. Or they are a fake one and it does not even bother them at all. See Matthew 10; 32-33.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
This is a cunning ploy: They are setting up these twelve-year-olds for an ill advised conversion later in life. These preteens will write these letters and forget about it. Later when they enter their rebellious teenage years it will come back to them and give them the idea to strike out at their parents by going ahead with it.
This is nothing less than child abuse on the part of the teachers involved. There is a special level of hell reserved for such perpetrators.
classroom watch says
The same thing happened in Guernsey last year. You would think teachers would have learned better after the reaction it caused:
https://classroomwatch.wordpress.com/2016/11/05/hijab-days-etc/
This has to be challenged by parents, not just individually but in numbers.
Here is a first step:
https://classroomwatch.wordpress.com/2016/11/24/dear-teacher/
gravenimage says
Yes–this suicidal insanity is actually quite widespread.
Jayell says
I think I might write to this school, as a still-practising member of the teaching profession, asking if their syllabus also includes writing a letter about converting to Christianity. Or anything
gravenimage says
Good for you, Jayell.
Infidel says
What a joke this is becoming on the entire UK!!!
FYI says
Then in the interests of fairness and political correctness maybe they should have assignments in Religious Studies Class for 12 year old muslim boys writing to their families…
Write a letter about ..
1.Converting to Christianity/Judaism.
Discuss allah’s love of the Jews.
2. Abandoning islam for atheism……The intelligent choice isn’t it?
3.allah’s virulent anti-Semitism and how weird that is when in the Biblical understanding of God,the Jews were CHOSEN by God to be His prophets..good luck explaining that one in the light of jibreel being “the enemy of the Jews”..Mazal Tov.
4.The life of muhammed and why did he never obey ANY of God’s Commandments?
And isn’t it odd that a “prophet” should live such an immoral life in defiance of God’s Commandments-{Adultery,mass murder,stealing,lying..mo did it all}?Discuss.
Compare with Jesus Christ.
Use list of God’s original Commandments provided…. taken from the Bible of course since allah didn’t bother to emphasis them in his “perfect” book.
5.How and Why did allah COMPLETELY MISS those all important Two Chief Commandments{“The whole law of Moses and the prophets and the teachings of the prophets depend on these Two Commandments”Matthew 22 .40}
…and yet..yet… allah completely missed them didn’t he?LOL.
Explain:in whose interest was/is it to omit the most essential attribute of God found in Judaism and Christianity but of course not found in islam?
6.Why does allah wrongly think that Christians are polytheists{Shirk}?Is’nt it because he gets Christian theology all wrong?How come allah doesn’t understand theology?That’s a human failing surely.allah would most likely fail a theology exam,wouldn’t he?
7 Field Trip..visit a mosque.Ask the iman (1)to explain why the koranic teachings are so completely at odds with God’s Original Commandments and (2)how do you explain the fact that allah/muhammed/jibreel are so filled with hatred towards the Jews and where does that leave those famous Jewish Prophets,Moses,Elijah and Jesus Christ?Are they “apes and swine too as it says in koran 5:60?is it true that islam is the religion of the antichrist?It looks like it doesn’t it?
8.Farook is a gay atheist.Discuss his future prospects in any islamic society.
Or in modern Britanistan…
gravenimage says
Good questions all!
Halal Bacon says
How a bout write a letter that after blowing yourself up you find out there is only a pit of hell fire and no 72 goats!
Aardvark says
Or a letter (to your grandparents) describing how jihadists burst into your home, slaughtered your father and brother, gang-raped your mother and yourself, and kidnapped you, after forcing you to recite the shahada at knife-point…
After all, this is probably one of the most common conversion scenarios.
gravenimage says
Grimly spot on.
steve says
I am amused by the comments of one here called ‘Englishman’ He should realise that the term ‘Englishman’ is no longer PC. The last Council form I filled out requested my ethnicity, I entered English but was informed that I was ‘British’. the word English was heavily penned over and British was inserted. I protested but was given the choice, British you now are OR the licence is refused. Reason ? English is considered a racist designation and your insistence in using it is not acceptable. I was shown the Government approved list of ethnicities, many I had not heard of but ‘English’ was absent. So, ‘Englishman-Briton’, I hope your Grandchildren are tough enough to take their country back one day. However from reading your fawning diatribes I think the writing is on the wall. As Tony Blair one said , Islamic immigration will give England new backbone …HE WAS SO RIGHT ….
Englishman says
steve, I’m sorry to read that you have encountered a problem with identifying as English, that’s not been my experience. I’m puzzled as to why you characterise my posts as ‘fawning diatribes’ as the only things I’ve written on here are posts defending the UK against criticism that it was ‘finished’ and other nonsensical comments.
Joel says
LIGHT OF CHRISTIANITY VERSUS THE DARKNESS OF ISLAM – Islam allows wife beating, rape whiling punishing the victim of rape, sex slavery, and female genital mutilation while in Christianity, it is a criminal felony, assault, and battery. In Islam, a woman’s testimony is worth half of a man’s in the court of law. In Christianity, a woman’s testimony is equal to a man’s. In Islam, a female rape victim requires four witnesses for a conviction. This is nearly impossible. In Islam, pedophilia is allowed even certain sex acts with infants while in Christianity, it would be a punishable crime. In Islam, narcotics is a commodity, while in Christianity, it is considered a plague. In Islam, a Muslim can violate a contract with a non-Muslim, which destroys social construction, while in Christianity, a contract must be upheld. In Islam, you go to heaven for Jihad against infidels, Christians, and Jews, while the religion of the God of the Bible there is justice, equality under the law, for the alien as well the native. In Islam, sex with animals is permissible, while in Christianity, it is a capital offense. To leave Islam is a death sentence, while to leave Christianity is to lose Christian duties. In Islam, critical speech about Islam and Mohammad means death while in Christianity critical debate is required. Under Sharia law, Muslims can kill Christian, Jews, and unbelievers without punishment. Under Christ, murder is a capital offense. REPENT AND BE SAVED – here is how – articleviii.wordpress.com
martin says
Englishman is starting to smell……. of moooslime
Englishman says
Mmm, sounds tasty martin 🙂
gravenimage says
This is intended to sound like sarcasm–but it may be meant quite literally.
IanB says
A far better reaction to this assignment would be for a bright child to explain why, after reading the Koran, excerpts from “The Reliance of the Traveller” and some “authentic” hadith (all available on the internet) why they had changed their mind about converting to Islam for reasons familiar to us JW regulars. That would give the teacher something to think about. Young people should visit JW often to counter the propaganda they’re fed.
The ignorance and apathy of “Englishman” above disgust me. He is not the type of English MAN I am. I hope he educates himself about Islam – as should other sheep-ready-for-slaughter like him.
Englishman says
IanB, I’m surprised that you should find it disgusting for someone to defend the UK against accusations that it is finished and that fighting back is the only option. I have to say that I’ve always admired JWs for their strictly held belief in non-violence, their openness to discussing their beliefs and their ability to rationally defend those beliefs.
gravenimage says
“Fighting back” does not necessarily mean physically–it just means taking a stand.
Apparently, “Englishman” is unwilling to take a stand for his civilized society against the horrors of Jihad and Shar’ah, which he appears to be fine with.
LeftisruiningCanada says
” I have to say that I’ve always admired JWs for their strictly held belief in non-violence, their openness to discussing their beliefs and their ability to rationally defend those beliefs.”
Around here JW refers to Jihad Watch, rather than Jehovahs Witness.
And if you’ve found members of the Watchtower to be open in discussing their beliefs, it may be worth venturing a try upon things outside those limited areas where they are well drilled in how to bamboozle the unwary. They tend to be very keen intalking about John 1:1, 1914, “The Father is greater than I”, and Trinitarian doctrine etc etc.
As for the opinion here that UK is finished, it’s just that we see so much willingness across the board there to pander to the demands of the muslim community, whilst opposing anyone who stands up and talks about it. Have you read a book called “The Islamic Rupublic of Dewsbury” By Danny Lockwood? Such a well recorded history of one small northern town and how muslim migrants took over. Several suicide bombers have since come from there, including some London bombers. Recently a young girl tried to commit suicide by drinking bleach because her muslim father has been beating her. Why? She was becoming to “westernized”. IE English.
I really hope that there will be a turn in the tide Englishman, truly i do. Everyone posting regularly on this site honors the UK’s past. See how many times Churchill is quoted favorably for one thing. We just see the writing on the wall, because the UK, and the west in general, is facing a test that it may well never have faced before, while at the same time it is also laboring under a variety of philosophical burdens that may well be making it unable to find a passing grade.
Gaelic Girl says
So I wrote a letter to the school: Doubt I will hear from the school.
To Whom It May Concern regarding the assignment of writing a letter to your parents explaining why you are converting to be a muslim,
First, I do not have a child at your school, however you are teaching the future leaders of the country and I am concerned as to what you teach.
This assignment is disturbing. I have no problem teaching the history of religions, however we know the true history of islam is not taught. It is not and has never been a “religion of peace”. Were the muslim students asked to write a letter to their parents about converting to Judaism or Christianity?
I was an SJW until I was challenged to actually read the quran and I have been shocked as to the contents of the book. I have spent the last 18 months immersed in reading the quran, hadiths, sira and shariah as well as studying the history of islam throughout the world. I have studied the Meccan (peaceful verses) which is early mohammed and the war filled Medinan period of islam which abrogates the peaceful verses. The verse in quran 106:9 that states .”to you your religion to me mine.” is from the peaceful Meccan period. When a muslim quotes this it is abrogated by all the hate filled verses. Is this even taught in school?
Islam is not just a religion it is a complete way of life that includes religion, politics, culture and a complete society. Islamic texts does not include just the quran as Christianity is just the Bible. Islam also includes the hadiths and siras. The quran is 14% of islamic text, the hadiths 60% and siras 26%. Islam is 86% about mohammed and 14% allah.
The amount of the text devoted to the kafir (non believer) Hadith 37%, Sira 81% and quran 64%. Islam is the only religion that devotes time to what to do to or about non believers. Other religions are about how to be a Christian, Jew, Buddhist and so forth.
In islam kafir is the most negative and reviled word. The quran contains at least 109 verses that speak of war with non-believers. Kafir can be mocked quran 83:34, beheaded 47:4, plotted against 86:15, terrorized 8:12, muslims are not allowed to be befriend the kafir 3:28, the kafir is evil 23:97, kafir should be disgraced 37:18, kafir is to be cursed 33:60.
Unlike the Bible which does have lots of violence, the violence in the Bible is history, it is statement of what occurred, The violence in the quran are open-ended, meaning that they are not necessarily restrained by historical context contained in the surrounding text. (Luckily most Muslims choose to think of them that way). The violence in the quran are part of the eternal, unchanging word of allah and are just as relevant or subject to interpretation as anything else in the quran. This is why we have jihadis living among us. They interpret the quran as the unchanging word of allah and still obey his commands.
Many muslims will also quote quran 5:32 “to kill a soul is as if to kill all of mankind” sounds good and that the quran does not promote killing. However this is taken out of context. If we read the entire verse and the the verses following this we see that this verse is directed to the Jews. the full quote of 5:32 – 35 reads “31 Because of the, We decreed upon the Children of Israel (the Jews) that whoever kills a soul unless for a soul or for corruption in the land, it is as if he had slain mankind entirely. And whoever saves one it is as if he had saved mankind entirely. And our messengers had certainly come to them with clear proofs. Then indeed many of them, after that throughout the land were trangressors. 32 Indeed, the penalty for those who wage war against allah and his messenger and strive upon earth corruption is none but that they be killed or crucified or that their hands and feet be cut off from opposite sides or that they be exiled from the land. That is for them a disgrace in this world, and for them in the hereafter a great punishment. 33 Except for those who return before you apprehend them and know that allah is forgiving and merciful. 34 Oh you who have believed fear allah and seek the means of nearness to him and strive in his cause that you may succeed. 34 Indeed those who disbelieve if they should have all that is in the earth and the like of it with it by which to ransom themselves from the punishment of the Day of Resurrection, it will not be accepted from them and for them is a painful punishment. 34 They will wish to get out of the fire, but never are they to emerge therefrom and for them is an enduring punishment.”
As you can see when taken in context this verse is quite different than presented by our muslim neighbors. This verse is not for all mankind it is directed to the Jewish people and non believers. It is not directed at muslims killing the kafir but at non believers killing.
Please be aware of the full context of the islamic text. Islam is about conquering all of the world for allah and there will be no peace on earth until all worship allah according to the quran.
Sincerely,
A Concerned Citizen,
No Fear says
Ditto. I read the Quran and the Hadith and I was nauseated.
Benedict says
The assignment was incomplete. The letter should be followed up by a letter where the pupils imagined what would happen to them, if they were to leave Islam a year later.
gravenimage says
Important point.
endislam says
Once the Christians and Jews become a minority, they will have absolutely no rights whatsoever. Enough said.
UNCLE VLADDI says
Dear Daddy:
I decided one day that something between my legs made me feel weird confused and unclean, so I wanted it cut out – and I asked a teacher “who can do this for me?” and she answered
“Islam can!”
Then someone else pissed me off, by accusing me of robbing a store, and I felt like I had been unfairly attacked, because I have no control over my store-robbing impulses, so I asked my teacher “Who can best justify my crimes for me?” and she answered
“Islam can!”
Then another girl pulled my hair in class, and I was SO MAD I wanted her dead, but I’m not strong enough to kill her myself, so I asked a teacher “who has a large enough gang to defend my honour by killing this person for me?” and she answered
“Islam can!”
So I became a muslima.
Now, I know you expect me to be in bed at a certain time, with all my homework done, but I’m warning you, Daddy Dear, that those days are over! I have much more important things to do like to go to the mosque with my new homies to learn the proper way to make holy pressure-cooker bombs while praying to allah almighty for your destruction!
– Your Daughter,
INSHALLAH AKHBAR! –
😉
terry says
Ask muslim students to write a letter to their parents about converting to christianty and there would be riots on the streets.
Submission in the West is rampant.