Britain is rapidly descending into totalitarianism and Sharia. But there is still Pat Condell.
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PATRICIA FRANCES KOENIGsays
This is a very good speech. The UK is really strange. UK must be very controlled by the Globalists. It is the Globalists who are promoting and protecting Islam…to destroy Christianity and the West.
Vyxsays
Great speech.
I find it interesting that the UK is actively pursuing and prosecuting hate speech by native British tax payers. Are they pursuing and prosecuting hate speech by immigrants who do not pay taxes?
My guess is no. Even though there is plenty of hate speech by UK immigrants out there.
When a government favors one group over another, it’s a problem. Basically, the UK protects muslims and prosecute natives who contribute to the economy. While muslims do not contribute nearly as much, if at all.
Right now, the UK government seems to be saying that they have no use for native Brits, and anyone the nation who are NOT muslim.
The end game seems to be “covert to islam, pay the jizya (uk taxes) or else.”
Is that what you want Brits? To spend your lives watching every single thing you say in public and in private, since any slip of the tongue could land you in jail? Do you want to spend your lives working so UK mulsims do not have to work? Will supporting a permanent underclass who might live better than you do make you feel morally superior?
Maybe it will for some.
For those who are not vested in virtue signaling, you might have a lot of thinking to do.
Muslim 2017says
Another white racist Islamophobe who support dangerous groups such as “Britain First” in order to create a climate of violence towards Muslims.
These people forget it is speech like people on Jihad Watch and other platforms that fuels extremists to burn down masjids and fuel an excuse for radical extremists using the name of Islam.
The pressure against this kind of hatred will continue.
JawsVsays
Bug off, Muslim. And take your racist, bigoted anti-Jew/Christian mass-murder so-called “religion” with you. Islam sucks and so do you.
overmansays
Go get him Jaws lol.
JawsVsays
The Muslim’s comment is utter insanity. No wonder Muslims haven’t invented or discovered anything. They live as parasites off the inventions and discoveries from other cultures.
Muslim 2017 isn’t racist or “bigoted” (whatever that word might mean). S/he’s just a sucker for the “religion of peace” delusion and consequently thinks that people critical of Islam are not telling the truth. There’s no merit in being uncivil towards him/her here. Sympathy with a brain-damaged person would be more appropriate.
Muslim 2017says
Robin I do not endorse the fantasy that “Islam is a religion of peace.” I understand very clearly there is a military doctrine in the Holy Quran. So too in the bible there is a military code too. The argument asserted by Robert Spencer in that Christians are not bombing people today etc is far from the truth. Christians and Jews who work in the CIA for example have used drones and through this they have carpet bomb innocent civilians in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Yemen and Somalia to name a few. They do this under the banner of secularism and democracy as this is the ruling power in our world today. Additionally, secular laws/international law has a military code as well, these are taught at universities or in the military. What we can agree upon is there are radical groups among the far right and within people who claim to follow Islam who commit acts of violence to further their cause. So if we really understand these issues and dissect them in their respective rights we can do our part to make our world a better place and climate for co-existence. We can do so with accurate information.
There is no harm in holding discourses and being critical of Islam, as a person who studies Islam I see clearly the distortions on jihad watch. It is true that Robert Spencer himself doesn’t call for violence against Muslims, the climate he and his colleagues create is very dangerous particularly for Muslim minorities who live in the west. For example one CNN report quotes, “In one year, anti-Muslim hate crimes in the United States rose 67%, from 154 incidents in 2014 to 257 in 2015, according to the latest numbers released in the bureau’s Hate Crime Statistics report on Monday. In sheer numbers, anti-Jewish incidents (664) were higher in 2015, but the percentage increase was much higher for incidents involving Muslim victims.” http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/14/us/fbi-hate-crime-report-muslims/index.html
Thank you for echoing the importance of civility. This is needed so that we can understand each other. Sadly the reason why you had to address your colleague regarding his/her unethical approach stems from sites like these and other Islamophobes.
>“there is a military doctrine in the Holy Quran. So too in the bible there is a military code too.”
One of the key themes of the ideology of Political Correctness (which has long dominated “education” and the media) is the notion that Christianity is the greatest evil. This “oh but look at the bible” meme has consequently become widespread.
Among other things this overlooks that the Bible is very different in functional significance from the Quran. According to Islam, the Quran is the final message perfect words of Allah himself. And was revealed over within a few years to the one man. By contrast the Old Testament of the Bible was written over many centuries. According to Jewish tradition the first parts were written by Moses about 1300BC. It was clearly not written by one person and few if any Christians or even Jews claim it to be the perfect final message of God. It is more like an account of the history of the Jews and of their evolving morality. Not least it contains (twice) the Ten Commandments, which include “Thou shalt not kill.” (“You must not kill.” in modern speak). And that is the ful sentence, not “you must not kill fellow-believers”. There is no corresponding command in the Quran.
The New Testamant is the core of Christianity, especially the four Gospels and the Acts of the Apostles. It makes very clear that the message of Christ is one of absolute non-violence: “Love your enemies”, “Put away your sword for those that live by the sword shall die by the sword” and so on. Christ didn’t condemn Roman soldiers for the same reason he famously did not challenge Caesar, namely that in the Roman Empire anyone who challenged the Roman authority would be promptly found guilty of sedition and unpleasantly killed.
In contrast to the Bible, the Quran contains many clear commands to kill and wage war against and terrorise the non-Muslims. Details at http://www.BecomeATerrorist.com. And nothing in the Quran contradicts that, despite the gross misquoting of 5:32 and the misrepresentation of “There is no compulsion in religion” (which is simply a statement of fact rather than a command).
“The argument asserted by Robert Spencer in that Christians are not bombing people today etc is far from the truth. Christians and Jews who work in the CIA for example have used drones and through this they have carpet bomb.”
That is untrue. People who do this may claim to be Christians but that doesn’t mean they actually are. They would be acting absolutely contrary to the message of Christ and certainly not acting as Christians. By contrast the Jihadists are acting entirely in accordance with the jihad commands of the Quran (as per http://www.BecomeATerrorist.com).
>”I see clearly the distortions on jihad watch.”
Namely? What I see is the constant distortions from Islam-defenders.
>”the climate he and his colleagues create is very dangerous particularly for Muslim minorities”
Not really. He and his colleagues are more put in danger. There is huge mythology of the supposed danger being caused against Muslims. For instance in the uk, one Muslim was killed by a Ukrainian man and this was hoohaaed as supposed evidence of the hate being encouraged by the Brexit. In reality a few months earlier a whole team of Ukrainian mountaineers had been killed by Jihadists near Everest. But needless to say that just another routine jihad event wasn’t considered important enough to make a media fuss about.
>”CNN report quotes, “In one year, anti-Muslim hate crimes in the United States rose 67%, from 154 incidents in 2014 to 257 in 2015”
But who says? There is no definition of an “anti-Muslim hate crime”, it could just be someone saying they don’t like Islam, or just frowning at a Muslim, or in numerous known cases just false accusations by malign Muslims.
It is easy to get misled about the truth of Islam because so many well-financed forces are putting out the fake information and only a few such as JihadWatch are putting out the true.
On the matter of the uncivility, yes this exists on such sites as this, but it exists all over the internet hence the extensive “moderation”. I think best to ignore it, if people want to insult you then it just reflects back on themselves as lowlife timewasters.
gravenimagesays
More from “Muslim 2017”:
Robin I do not endorse the fantasy that “Islam is a religion of peace.” I understand very clearly there is a military doctrine in the Holy Quran. So too in the bible there is a military code too. The argument asserted by Robert Spencer in that Christians are not bombing people today etc is far from the truth. Christians and Jews who work in the CIA for example have used drones and through this they have carpet bomb innocent civilians in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Yemen and Somalia to name a few.
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You cannot carpet bomb anyone with a drone–the whole point is that these are *targeted* bombings. What “Muslim 2017” is objecting to is going after violent Jihadists.
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They do this under the banner of secularism and democracy as this is the ruling power in our world today. Additionally, secular laws/international law has a military code as well, these are taught at universities or in the military.
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Is “Muslim 2017” too stupid to realize that he is contradicting himself here? First he claims that Westerners are waging war against Muslims per the tenets of the Bible; then he babbles on about secularism.
But of course to a pious Muslim all of these are of a piece–non-Islamic.
Since all of our actions have been defensive, what he is really saying is that we cannot be allowed to defend ourselves against violent Jihad.
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What we can agree upon is there are radical groups among the far right and within people who claim to follow Islam who commit acts of violence to further their cause.
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Really? Where are “far right” groups doing this?
Also note his phrasing that those who wage violent Jihad are ‘claiming to follow Islam’, as though this is incorrect. Notice that he offers no examples of how this is the case, because he cannot.
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So if we really understand these issues and dissect them in their respective rights we can do our part to make our world a better place and climate for co-existence. We can do so with accurate information.
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“Co-existence”–“Muslim 2017” has himself made it clear that such “co-existence” would only take place when Infidels have submitted to the brutality of Islamic law.
Until then, Infidels can be slaughtered by Muslims with impunity.
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There is no harm in holding discourses and being critical of Islam, as a person who studies Islam I see clearly the distortions on jihad watch.
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Notice that he says nothing about his pious coreligionists threatening the lives of people who dare criticize Islam.
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It is true that Robert Spencer himself doesn’t call for violence against Muslims, the climate he and his colleagues create is very dangerous particularly for Muslim minorities who live in the west.
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We’ve seen this claim before–that daring to say anything negative about Muslim violence is–somehow–actually about violence against Muslims. Nothing but projection.
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For example one CNN report quotes, “In one year, anti-Muslim hate crimes in the United States rose 67%, from 154 incidents in 2014 to 257 in 2015, according to the latest numbers released in the bureau’s Hate Crime Statistics report on Monday. In sheer numbers, anti-Jewish incidents (664) were higher in 2015, but the percentage increase was much higher for incidents involving Muslim victims.” http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/14/us/fbi-hate-crime-report-muslims/index.html
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Most of these “hate crimes” prove to have been faked by Muslims themselves, or involves such minor matters as some wag draping bacon over a Mosque door knob.
Meanwhile, Muslims have been responsible for over 32,000 Jihad terror attacks just since 9/11. “Muslim 2017” has never had a critical word to say about these atrocities.
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Thank you for echoing the importance of civility. This is needed so that we can understand each other. Sadly the reason why you had to address your colleague regarding his/her unethical approach stems from sites like these and other Islamophobes.
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The idea that “civility” entails crushing any criticism of the horror of Jihad terror–as “Muslim 2017” has demanded–is simply grotesque.
Your notion that “Muslim 2017” is stupid is unwise. Some people use their intelligence to defend their errors rather than to criticise them. You have to understand that Muslims live in bubbles of ignorance and self-confirmation. They tend not to even look at sites such as JihadWatch. They believe the widespread propaganda that Islam is indeed peaceful and that the jihadists/ terrorists are not really Muslim. They never ask why Islam is the most hated of all “faiths”, that there is deathly trouble everywhere Muslims go.
gravenimagesays
Robin, you are right that “Muslim 2017” is just being a pious Muslim here.
But rational Infidels certainly can pick up on logical contradictions, even if he is not capable of doing so.
As to being civil to this barbarian, I do not address him directly, in any case. I just parse his vicious claptrap for other readers.
“As to being civil to this barbarian, I do not address him directly, in any case. I just parse his vicious claptrap for other readers.”
More fool and yob you. When you encounter a person of different views you treat them with contempt. What a contemptible.way to treat someone who takes the trouble to post to a site of the “other side”. Your doing so contributes nothing here. Others are perfectly capable of engaging rationally without need for the obnoxiousness. So please f off. Geddit?
Pninasays
So why do Muslims blow up the masjids, such as the one in Egypt recently and many others in the past? Are the “white racist Islamophobes” making Muslims murder other Muslims en masse?
Muslim 2017says
The root of this evil are ignorance of Allah’s word also, distortion of the Holy Quran. Here is what Allah says in the Quran about killing the believers and even destroying Churches and Synagogues.
Surah 4:93, “But whoever kills a believer intentionally – his recompense is Hell, wherein he will abide eternally, and Allah has become angry with him and has cursed him and has prepared for him a great punishment.
Surah 22:40, “[They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right – only because they say, “Our Lord is Allah .” And were it not that Allah checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of Allah is much mentioned. And Allah will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, Allah is Powerful and Exalted in Might.”
“Jay Boo says Dec 3, 2017 at 9:42 am
Muhammad had sex with his daughter -in- law, his recently dead aunt in her grave, and owned child sex slaves.”
It would help if you were to provide source information for such claims rather than leave people wondering if they are true or not. I guess in some Hadith or other.
gravenimagesays
More crap from “Muslim 2017”:
The root of this evil are ignorance of Allah’s word also, distortion of the Holy Quran. Here is what Allah says in the Quran about killing the believers and even destroying Churches and Synagogues.
Surah 4:93, “But whoever kills a believer intentionally – his recompense is Hell, wherein he will abide eternally, and Allah has become angry with him and has cursed him and has prepared for him a great punishment.
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Firstly, the idea that Muslims consider Jews to be “believers” is obvious bullsh*t.
Then, the “Prophet” himself made it clear that Muslims can murder heretics and apostates. There is even an Islamic tenet that covers this–Takfir, whereby any Muslim may be deemed “un-Islamic”, and them treated as though he were an Infidel, meaning he can be slaughtered.
This is why Muslims butcher other Muslims–because they regard them as virtual Infidels.
All pious Muslims agree with this–the only disagreements are over exactly which Muslims are fair game.
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Surah 22:40, “[They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right – only because they say, “Our Lord is Allah .” And were it not that Allah checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of Allah is much mentioned. And Allah will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, Allah is Powerful and Exalted in Might.”
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But of course, the only Jews and Christians who mention the name of Allah in the way this is meant are those who *have converted to Islam*.
The next Ayat makes this quite clear:
Qur’an 22:41:
[And they are] those who, if We give them authority in the land, establish prayer and give zakah and enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong. And to Allah belongs the outcome of [all] matters.
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The only people who give Zakat and–in lslamic terms–“enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong”–i.e., enforce brutal Shari’ah law–are *Muslims*.
The next Ayat emphasizes this:
“And if they deny you, [O Muhammad] – so, before them, did the people of Noah and ‘Aad and Thamud deny [their prophets],”
Jews and Christians deny that Muhammed is a prophet–the only ones who accept him as a prophet are Muslims.
This Sura is all about Infidels converting to Islam.
Dreadnaughtsays
How is it that so many Muslims ‘misunderstand’ what is implicitly clear in the Koran? The same clarity that has been used to justify Islamic expansion at the cost of indigenous cultures and millions of lives for 1500 years.
Arab culture is a culture of tribal wars, slavery and plunder. It took Judaism and Christianity and plagiarised their religious texts because they were illiterate Nomads with nothing going for them but the love violence.
What have the Islamists done about their record of crimes against humanity? To this day – Bugger all.
gravenimagesays
Robin wrote:
“Jay Boo says Dec 3, 2017 at 9:42 am
Muhammad had sex with his daughter -in- law, his recently dead aunt in her grave, and owned child sex slaves.”
It would help if you were to provide source information for such claims rather than leave people wondering if they are true or not. I guess in some Hadith or other.
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Robin, the story of Muhammed marrying his adopted son’s wife is involved. This site goes over all of the situation:
In brief, Muhammed forced his adopted son to divorce his wife so he could marry her when she caught his eye. One further disturbing upshot of this is that Muslims cannot formally adopt children. This leads to further heartache for orphaned kids in Dar-al-Islam.
As for sex with his dead aunt, this is the Hadith:
Narrated by Ibn Abbas:
“I (Muhammad) put on her my shirt that she may wear the clothes of heaven, and I lay down with her in her coffin (grave) that I may lessen the pressure of the grave. She was the best of Allah’s creatures to me after Abu Talib”. .. The prophet was referring to Fatima, the mother of Ali.
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Apparently the word used for “lay down” is most commonly used to indicate “had sex”.
Many Imams have also concluded that Muslims can have sex with their dead wives for up to six hours after their passing.
Muhammed certainly kept sex slaves–both captives he took in Jihad raids and others he was given as gifts, including Mary the Copt.
I’m not sure if any of them were children, although it seems likely. Certainly, he raped little Aisha, although she was–technically–not a slave.
Some good content there from Gravenimage, all the better for lack of the insulting.
Though again, this following needs some citation of documentation:
>”Muhammed certainly kept sex slaves–both captives he took in Jihad raids and others he was given as gifts,”
I can certainly believe it myself in the context of (1) the Hadiths about his pedo “marriage” to Aisha, and (2) the verses which endorse sex-slavery (and don’t put an age limit), such as:
“Married women are forbidden to you except the captives your right (sword) hand possesses.” [4:24]
“O Prophet! We have made lawful to you your wives … and those whom your right (sword) hand possesses of the captives of war whom Allah has assigned to you.” [33:50].
“It is not allowed you to take other women henceforth nor that you should change them for other wives even though their beauty pleased you, except for those whom your right hand possesses.” [33:52]
“Allah promises you will capture much booty.” [48:20]
And the wider context indicating that far from being a prophet he was definitely a criminal in just about every possible way imaginable.
“The root of this evil are ignorance of Allah’s word also, distortion of the Holy Quran. Here is..”
This reply from “Gravenimage” is well-argued, just marred by needless insulting language such as the opening c-word which contributes nothing to its merits.
gravenimagesays
The appalling “Muslim 2017” wrote:
Another white racist Islamophobe who support dangerous groups such as “Britain First” in order to create a climate of violence towards Muslims.
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Nothing but projection–Pat Condell did not call for violence against Muslims, he merely decried violence *by* Muslims.
Note that “Muslim 2017” has *no* problems with his coreligionists mutilating little girls, committing “Honor Killings”, and plotting violent Jihad.
But then, why would he? All these things are perfectly Halal.
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These people forget it is speech like people on Jihad Watch and other platforms that fuels extremists to burn down masjids and fuel an excuse for radical extremists using the name of Islam.
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Of course, Jihad Watch has never once called for violence against Muslims. It has–just like Pat Condell–condemned Jihad terror.
Note, also, “Muslim 2017s” ludicrous implication that Muslims only wage violent Jihad because some Infidels dare speak out against it.
The implication, of course, is that if only we are quiet that Muslims may choose not to murder us.
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The pressure against this kind of hatred will continue.
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What he means is that leftists and Muslims like himself will continue trying to shut good people up from saying anything negative about Muslim savagery.
Flavius Claudius Iulianussays
“Another white racist Islamophobe who support dangerous groups such as “Britain First” in order to create a climate of violence towards Muslims.”
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Nope. Muslim violence is what creates a climate of violence towards Muslims. You and your bunch have for 1400 years wrapped your violent, intolerant ways in a disguise of victim-hood and self-defense. We see through it: “tamaskan tatamakan” (show a victim’s face [and then] take over).
And long live Jayda Fransen and Britain First!
DEUS VULT!!
Leon Degneysays
How is Pat Condrell inciting violence against Muslims or anyone else, for that matter? It has has been well noted that Islamists are inciting violence and perpetuating violence against *infidels* to follow the rules of their Quoran.Where is the establishment’s outcry against this I ask? Crawl back into your hole Muslim 2017, you aren’t even brave enough to use your name.
>How is Pat Condell inciting violence against Muslims or anyone else, for that matter? It has has been well noted that Islamists are inciting violence and perpetuating violence against *infidels* to follow the rules of their Quran.
While some Muslims are engaging in “religion of peace” taqiyya deceit, many others actually do believe that the terrorists etc are not “real” Muslims but merely abusing the name of Islam. They are mistaken but they do believe that. A person with that belief is understandably distressed to encounter Pat Condell giving the impression (albeit unintentionally) that genuine Islam and all Muslims/”Muslims” endorse the terror (and hence incite a backlash against them).
I would argue that all “Muslims” do contribute to the terrorism etc by endorsing the quran and its criminal author, but that many such as Muslim 2017 do not understand that that is the case (due to believing Islam’s own “religion of peace” lies).
>Where is the establishment’s outcry against this I ask?
The establishment decry the terrorism while maintaining (honestly or otherwise) that it is “nothing to do with Islam”. I’d have hoped you’d noticed that by now!
>”Crawl back into your hole Muslim 2017, you aren’t even brave enough to use your name.”
At least he/she/it has the courage to come to this site and get insulted by various replies. How about yourself?
Champsays
The lying mohammedan wrote:
“These people forget it is speech like people on Jihad Watch and other platforms that fuels extremists to burn down masjids and fuel an excuse for radical extremists using the name of Islam.”
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What rubbish. The unholy quran and the hadiths are what “fuels” extremists. Period.
Muslim 2017says
Both the far right extremists and terrorists have one thing in common. Ignorance.
We see this high level of ignorance reflected on Jihad Watch too in abundance. Robert Spencer is doing a great job at making a career feeding off your hate.
The terrorists distort verses from the Holy Quran, I see their foolish material all the time. This is the discussion we are having in the Muslim communities but people who incite others with Islamophobic speech are fueling these groups.
Champsays
Oh please your deceitful comment is so transparent and you aren’t fooling anyone here. And what’s the matter, are you offended by the TRUTH about islam and it’s unholy books?
So did your prophet muhammad distort the unholy quran, too? Oh wait he wrote this manual-for-murder, so never mind, since muhammad was a terrorist, too …
The vile “Muslim 2017” wrote, replying to the stalwart Champ:
Both the far right extremists and terrorists have one thing in common. Ignorance.
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We hear this false moral equivalence all the time–that waging violent terrorism and decrying violent terrorism is both “extreme”.
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We see this high level of ignorance reflected on Jihad Watch too in abundance. Robert Spencer is doing a great job at making a career feeding off your hate.
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“Hate”–the only hate you see here is against Muslims raping and slaughtering their victims.
“Muslim 2017” still does not have a word to say against this savagery.
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The terrorists distort verses from the Holy Quran, I see their foolish material all the time.
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How is this anything but orthodox Islam? Of course, “Muslim 2017” does not say.
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This is the discussion we are having in the Muslim communities but people who incite others with Islamophobic speech are fueling these groups.
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Uh huh–funny how that “discussion” has not led to any diminution of Jihad terror. Instead, it is mushrooming.
And note the claim that the cause of Jihad terror is any criticism of Jihad terror. If only we stopped saying that Jihad terror is bad, it would–somehow–cease to be a problem.
In fact, “Muslim 2017” has said that he supports the crushing of any criticism of Jihad.
>”Champ says Dec 3, 2017 at 3:19 pm
Oh please your deceitful comment is so transparent “
And you then waste everyone’s time with a six minute video which never gets round to answering that question of “was Mohammed a terrorist”. How ridiculous. Muslims constantly believe that Mo was a wonderful hind hero and present their own would-be evidence such as their misquote of quran 5:32 and the “there is no compulsion in religion” drivel. How about answering them with some facts?
Firstly there is the Sira and numerous Hadiths which make clear the terrorism of the “prophet”, he organised and engaged in numerous battles, and fara from just defensive. But even though most of the Hadiths are “Sahih”, ie. reliably authentic, many Muslims will deny their truth. But numerous verses of the supposedly perfect quran confirm the terroristic nature of Islam. More details at http://www.BecomeATerrorist.com and see also http://www.IslamHoax.com and you don’t even need to piss about for six minutes waiting for a video never to get to the point.
Ralphsays
Sorry, but the cause of the violence is not citizens reaction to it, but the actual teachings of your false and hateful prophet, Mohammed.
Carolynesays
Prove it, you ignorant Muslim. Violence by the right is very rare, but an everyday occurrence for Muslims, who are inspired to violence by their evil book, the Koran and by their psychopathic “Prophet” Mohammed (May pig shit be upon him.) Islam should be banned by civilized countries.
Neil Jennisonsays
Pat Condell is a star……how can anyone disagree with that? It is exactly what is happening here.
JawsVsays
Bravo Pat! Always right-on!
Joe Stainssays
He’ll live in the UK’s ‘Hall of Fame’
(He got there blow-by-blow)
Your kids will tell THEIR kids his name;
Good-old, Patrick Condell-oh!
The cancer of leftism has metasticized and with the help of Islam is taking over most of the western world.
their goal is to create a climate where there can be no dissent, that way they have unlimited power to completely control our lives.
eduardo odraudesays
One of Pat’s best.
Cheer Bear Girlsays
Wow, UK is eerily resembling the former USSR.
Then again Sharia law probably makes USSR look like a representative democracy or republic.
Lusays
Spot on, Girl. I had lived through those times behind the Iron Curtain. This is far worse than communism – for we all knew back then that it would end by self-inflicted wounds; we all saw how farcical, pathetic and impotent communism had become after decades of its gradual decay.
This cult won’t disappear as communism did.
Yup – in retrospective, it was a “representative democracy” as you say.
Hey, calling someone girl is a hate crime. Now checking your ip address……
gravenimagesays
I hope this is sarcasm…
III Frogssays
Islamophobia is rational. Islamophobia is functional. Islamophobia is survival. It’s such a tragedy, that this great country, Britain, the one who gave the world the Magna Carta in 1215, thus instituting the rule of law that seeded both democracy and western civilization at the same time– a rule of law that applies to all, even kings and princes. It is such a travesty and a failure of will, of intellect and of courage. The problem is Islam. Period /”migrant” = Muslim, in the UK where there is no longer free speech, and citizens must submit to sharia Islam blasphemy law which forbids criticism of Islam
Pathfinder0100says
Kinda strange that quoting the verses of the Koran has been transformed, by the muzzies, into “hate speech”! Don’t cha think??
Guy Forestersays
Long live the Declaration of Independence, the US Constitution, and especially the Bill of Rights. They are currently in great jeopardy as congress and the rest of our so called leaders in DC and 50 state capitals try to find ways to increase their power and wealth at the expense of the citizens. At least for now, we are not in the same pickle as the UK and Europe. Not yet, at least.
The Bill of Rights and Constitution do not grant us our rights. They are there to restrain government from infringing on our rights that we have simply because we are a FREE people. Our rights are not granted to us (and therefore revocable) by a King or other human.
Make America Great Again: Clean house in DC and our state capitals. Shred tons of useless, conflicting, and oppressive laws. Fire elected officials that add laws and taxes that destroy our freedoms.
How is that for a rant? Good luck to us, we will need it.
Thank you, Pat for yet another Great speech! The UK is prosecuting its own population for ‘hate speech’ while real crimes like FGM and Rape are ignored by the Police. The UK protects Muslims and prosecutes those who bring its population the Truth. Muslims contribute nothing to Western Civilizations because their ‘holy’ texts tell them that they are ‘the very best of peoples’ and that ‘Jews and Christians are the very worst of Creatures’. They are told that Kaffirs owe them the Jizyah and they need not work as the Dhimmis will do it for them.
Sharia law by stealth is overtaking Britain and converting it into a country that few Australians can now recognize. The destination seems to be Civil War and Civilisational Suicide.
Davidsays
Right on Nicholas. As far as I know, no-one has been prosecuted for FGM in the UK. Well surprise surprise! We mustn’t criticise anyone’s religious and cultural activity, after all.
Benefits=jizyah.
gravenimagesays
Pat Condell: Britain’s Hate Speech Police
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Another fine but very disturbing video from Pat Condell.
I love his righteous anger.
Browndogsays
This country was once an empire. I find this to be a sad situation and people should not have to suffer this. I have roots there back to Stamford in the middle ages but ancestors that came to America in the 1600’s. Still in New England. Leave that place and come here. We value people who have talents and skills to offer. We also have a 1st and 2nd Amendment. We, and the police, protect and defend our children and do not entertain bullshit. Rural New England.
gravenimagesays
If good people abandon Britain the to the barbarian Muslim invaders it will not be a good thing.
Lindasays
Pat Condell has such a way with words.
Pathfinder0100says
Oh Pat! Please be careful and very watchful as there are some bad people out there that are a danger to you!! Above all, watch your back! There’s just not many out there like you and we DO NEED our truth tellers!! God Bless and protect you!!!
Mark Asays
Great video Pat. It’s been three months since the last one. I was wondering what had happened to you.
Davidsays
PC CP PC (politically correct Common Purpose Police Cuntstable).
Maybe decent people can register a complaint against muslims for Infidelophobia. No evidence required, presumably. Play them at their own game.
Pathfinder0100says
Hey David–“Infideophobia”!!! Now there’s a word that I hope many of us pick up on and jump on that band wagon! Well done!!
Muslims are not capable of committing hate crimes (just a few unhinged “perverters of a noble faith do sometimes). Please keep up with the true authorised reality.
ronyvosays
What about the royal palace? Is this the sophisticated Britain?
I am so glad the Pres. Trump canceled his visit to this ME country in Europe. Even, not one Muslim country in the ME has attacked our president like the leaders of England, as far as I know.
The world is self destructing soo unbelievable fast.
The satanic Islam has not one single good teachings that we can give it some kind of positive reason to allow it in our countries. Amazing what is happening in the 21st century!!
Really? Whats not to like about:
“Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. Those who follow
him are merciful to one another, but ruthless to disbelievers.”
[48:29]
“O you who believe! Fight those of the non-Muslims who are
near to you and let them find harshness in you.” [9:123]
“Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who
disbelieve.” [8:55]
“If anyone desires a religion other than Islam, it will never be
accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks
of the losers.” [3:85]
“Fighting is prescribed for you, and you dislike it. But it
is possible that you dislike a thing which is good for you, and
that you love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knows,
and you know not.” [2:216]
“Have you not seen those unto whom it was said: Withhold
your hands and establish worship and pay the poor-due? But
when fighting was prescribed for them, behold! a party of
them fear mankind even as they fear Allah or with greater
fear, and they say: Our Lord! why have you ordained fighting
for us? If only you would give us respite for a while. I Say:
The comfort of this world is scant; the Hereafter will be
better for he who wards off evil.” [4:77]
ronsays
it will be to late when the masses wake up and realize what islam is all about.
Pat Condell is against all faiths. It’s a little too broad of a perspective for me. Esp. given that atheists cannot address the fact that everyone physically DIES eventually and also where did that “big bang” come from etc. Not to mention sarcastically that general convenience of not being accountable to an absolute authority.
The problem with these people who are opposed to all faiths is that they overlook that all civilisations have had a “church” at their founding heart (e.g christianity in the western civ), and that all the great geniuses have been very much Christians with almost no exceptions (ie. Einstein the lapsed Jew). Copernicus, Galileo, Faraday, Darwin, Mendel, etc. If you reject xtianity you’d better reject electricity and computers too! Likewise all the great composers had a strong line in religious music, even the most “evil” Liszt and Wagner.
gravenimagesays
Jews and some atheists have been great inventors as well as Christians.
Certainly, the Judeo-Christian West–and those societies influenced by them–have been the most innovative of all societies–and Islam the least.
Lydiasays
The truth marches on; with me as its mouthpiece, loudspeaker, and trumpet.
Come what may. No one else will stand up for the truth, human rights, our way of life, democracy, and freedom of religion. No one else will stand up for Christianity, the true God, and reveal the evils of islam. We must do it, or we will get the alternative Orwellian nightmare.
Malcolm Jacksonsays
We are never going to stop the Muslim invasion and conquest of the UK until we have stopped Tony Blair’s Common Purpose 5th Column from controlling the UK.
Until proven otherwise, from now on I am taking for granted that all of the United Kingdom’s Police Forces are controlled by Common Purpose Police Chiefs.
All the hierarchy of every UK Police Force use the same sound bites about Islam.
Every time there is a Muslim terror atrocity in the UK, these so called Police Commissioners spout the same Common Purpose garbage about this not being Islam, that Muslims are a peaceful people, Islam is the Religion of Peace, Muslims must be protected against reprisal attacks. Nothing is ever said about the non-Muslim population being protected from the evil cult of Islam.
Aiding Tony Blair’s Islamic conquest of the UK is the main aim of these Common Purpose Police Commissioners. Removing these Common Purpose Puppets from their commanding positions and replacing them with proper , real, patriotic Police Officers, will be a major blow to the Islamic invasion of the UK.
“We are never going to stop the Muslim invasion and conquest of the UK until we have stopped Tony Blair’s Common Purpose 5th Column from controlling the UK.”
I wouldn’t be so pessimistic. The regime has been trying to uphold its “huge benefits of immigration” etc false ideology. A regime does not change its false ideology willingly or easily. An independent individual can change their mind but an institutionalised individual has to stay “on message”, at least publicly.
So the regime have been using ever stronger (more desperate) measures of “hate crime” to suppress the truth getting out. A problem with this is that when groups depend on lying rather than honest discussion, they become dysfunctional. And some extreme dysfunction in Westminster lately.
The thought control is failing, a huge proportion do not believe the approved dogmas of “huge benefits of immigration” and “nothing to do with Islam”. The pendulum is swinging, PC is on the backfoot, the backlash is ever growing. And the regime of lies will fall. Soon.
Their latest resort is to label their approved websites as “true”. As millions of us will immediately recognise that as a certificate of “fake”, that’s going to work like piss.
On bbc radio just now, latest rubbish film about how being a “refugee” is the worst possible thing ever. Stars Ai WeiWei who is a “dissident” hence a hero unlike for instance R Spencer, P Geller, Assange, Snowden, K Hopkins, P Weston, etc who are of course just evil hate criminals instead. zzzzzz……..
thomassays
The distribution of Pat’s video puts him at risk for the purported non-sense crime of hate speech.
The USA must keep its freedom of speech and to bare arms!!!
Islam has been attacking the West non-stop for more than a thousand years.
We all should be very thankful for Poland’s defense of Vienna on September 11, 1683.
Without this victory, Europe would Islamic.
terrysays
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PATRICIA FRANCES KOENIG says
This is a very good speech. The UK is really strange. UK must be very controlled by the Globalists. It is the Globalists who are promoting and protecting Islam…to destroy Christianity and the West.
Vyx says
Great speech.
I find it interesting that the UK is actively pursuing and prosecuting hate speech by native British tax payers. Are they pursuing and prosecuting hate speech by immigrants who do not pay taxes?
My guess is no. Even though there is plenty of hate speech by UK immigrants out there.
When a government favors one group over another, it’s a problem. Basically, the UK protects muslims and prosecute natives who contribute to the economy. While muslims do not contribute nearly as much, if at all.
Right now, the UK government seems to be saying that they have no use for native Brits, and anyone the nation who are NOT muslim.
The end game seems to be “covert to islam, pay the jizya (uk taxes) or else.”
Is that what you want Brits? To spend your lives watching every single thing you say in public and in private, since any slip of the tongue could land you in jail? Do you want to spend your lives working so UK mulsims do not have to work? Will supporting a permanent underclass who might live better than you do make you feel morally superior?
Maybe it will for some.
For those who are not vested in virtue signaling, you might have a lot of thinking to do.
Muslim 2017 says
Another white racist Islamophobe who support dangerous groups such as “Britain First” in order to create a climate of violence towards Muslims.
These people forget it is speech like people on Jihad Watch and other platforms that fuels extremists to burn down masjids and fuel an excuse for radical extremists using the name of Islam.
The pressure against this kind of hatred will continue.
JawsV says
Bug off, Muslim. And take your racist, bigoted anti-Jew/Christian mass-murder so-called “religion” with you. Islam sucks and so do you.
overman says
Go get him Jaws lol.
JawsV says
The Muslim’s comment is utter insanity. No wonder Muslims haven’t invented or discovered anything. They live as parasites off the inventions and discoveries from other cultures.
Robin says
Muslim 2017 isn’t racist or “bigoted” (whatever that word might mean). S/he’s just a sucker for the “religion of peace” delusion and consequently thinks that people critical of Islam are not telling the truth. There’s no merit in being uncivil towards him/her here. Sympathy with a brain-damaged person would be more appropriate.
Muslim 2017 says
Robin I do not endorse the fantasy that “Islam is a religion of peace.” I understand very clearly there is a military doctrine in the Holy Quran. So too in the bible there is a military code too. The argument asserted by Robert Spencer in that Christians are not bombing people today etc is far from the truth. Christians and Jews who work in the CIA for example have used drones and through this they have carpet bomb innocent civilians in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Yemen and Somalia to name a few. They do this under the banner of secularism and democracy as this is the ruling power in our world today. Additionally, secular laws/international law has a military code as well, these are taught at universities or in the military. What we can agree upon is there are radical groups among the far right and within people who claim to follow Islam who commit acts of violence to further their cause. So if we really understand these issues and dissect them in their respective rights we can do our part to make our world a better place and climate for co-existence. We can do so with accurate information.
There is no harm in holding discourses and being critical of Islam, as a person who studies Islam I see clearly the distortions on jihad watch. It is true that Robert Spencer himself doesn’t call for violence against Muslims, the climate he and his colleagues create is very dangerous particularly for Muslim minorities who live in the west. For example one CNN report quotes, “In one year, anti-Muslim hate crimes in the United States rose 67%, from 154 incidents in 2014 to 257 in 2015, according to the latest numbers released in the bureau’s Hate Crime Statistics report on Monday. In sheer numbers, anti-Jewish incidents (664) were higher in 2015, but the percentage increase was much higher for incidents involving Muslim victims.” http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/14/us/fbi-hate-crime-report-muslims/index.html
Thank you for echoing the importance of civility. This is needed so that we can understand each other. Sadly the reason why you had to address your colleague regarding his/her unethical approach stems from sites like these and other Islamophobes.
Robin says
>“there is a military doctrine in the Holy Quran. So too in the bible there is a military code too.”
One of the key themes of the ideology of Political Correctness (which has long dominated “education” and the media) is the notion that Christianity is the greatest evil. This “oh but look at the bible” meme has consequently become widespread.
Among other things this overlooks that the Bible is very different in functional significance from the Quran. According to Islam, the Quran is the final message perfect words of Allah himself. And was revealed over within a few years to the one man. By contrast the Old Testament of the Bible was written over many centuries. According to Jewish tradition the first parts were written by Moses about 1300BC. It was clearly not written by one person and few if any Christians or even Jews claim it to be the perfect final message of God. It is more like an account of the history of the Jews and of their evolving morality. Not least it contains (twice) the Ten Commandments, which include “Thou shalt not kill.” (“You must not kill.” in modern speak). And that is the ful sentence, not “you must not kill fellow-believers”. There is no corresponding command in the Quran.
The New Testamant is the core of Christianity, especially the four Gospels and the Acts of the Apostles. It makes very clear that the message of Christ is one of absolute non-violence: “Love your enemies”, “Put away your sword for those that live by the sword shall die by the sword” and so on. Christ didn’t condemn Roman soldiers for the same reason he famously did not challenge Caesar, namely that in the Roman Empire anyone who challenged the Roman authority would be promptly found guilty of sedition and unpleasantly killed.
In contrast to the Bible, the Quran contains many clear commands to kill and wage war against and terrorise the non-Muslims. Details at http://www.BecomeATerrorist.com. And nothing in the Quran contradicts that, despite the gross misquoting of 5:32 and the misrepresentation of “There is no compulsion in religion” (which is simply a statement of fact rather than a command).
“The argument asserted by Robert Spencer in that Christians are not bombing people today etc is far from the truth. Christians and Jews who work in the CIA for example have used drones and through this they have carpet bomb.”
That is untrue. People who do this may claim to be Christians but that doesn’t mean they actually are. They would be acting absolutely contrary to the message of Christ and certainly not acting as Christians. By contrast the Jihadists are acting entirely in accordance with the jihad commands of the Quran (as per http://www.BecomeATerrorist.com).
>”I see clearly the distortions on jihad watch.”
Namely? What I see is the constant distortions from Islam-defenders.
>”the climate he and his colleagues create is very dangerous particularly for Muslim minorities”
Not really. He and his colleagues are more put in danger. There is huge mythology of the supposed danger being caused against Muslims. For instance in the uk, one Muslim was killed by a Ukrainian man and this was hoohaaed as supposed evidence of the hate being encouraged by the Brexit. In reality a few months earlier a whole team of Ukrainian mountaineers had been killed by Jihadists near Everest. But needless to say that just another routine jihad event wasn’t considered important enough to make a media fuss about.
>”CNN report quotes, “In one year, anti-Muslim hate crimes in the United States rose 67%, from 154 incidents in 2014 to 257 in 2015”
But who says? There is no definition of an “anti-Muslim hate crime”, it could just be someone saying they don’t like Islam, or just frowning at a Muslim, or in numerous known cases just false accusations by malign Muslims.
It is easy to get misled about the truth of Islam because so many well-financed forces are putting out the fake information and only a few such as JihadWatch are putting out the true.
On the matter of the uncivility, yes this exists on such sites as this, but it exists all over the internet hence the extensive “moderation”. I think best to ignore it, if people want to insult you then it just reflects back on themselves as lowlife timewasters.
gravenimage says
More from “Muslim 2017”:
Robin I do not endorse the fantasy that “Islam is a religion of peace.” I understand very clearly there is a military doctrine in the Holy Quran. So too in the bible there is a military code too. The argument asserted by Robert Spencer in that Christians are not bombing people today etc is far from the truth. Christians and Jews who work in the CIA for example have used drones and through this they have carpet bomb innocent civilians in Pakistan, Afghanistan, Yemen and Somalia to name a few.
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You cannot carpet bomb anyone with a drone–the whole point is that these are *targeted* bombings. What “Muslim 2017” is objecting to is going after violent Jihadists.
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They do this under the banner of secularism and democracy as this is the ruling power in our world today. Additionally, secular laws/international law has a military code as well, these are taught at universities or in the military.
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Is “Muslim 2017” too stupid to realize that he is contradicting himself here? First he claims that Westerners are waging war against Muslims per the tenets of the Bible; then he babbles on about secularism.
But of course to a pious Muslim all of these are of a piece–non-Islamic.
Since all of our actions have been defensive, what he is really saying is that we cannot be allowed to defend ourselves against violent Jihad.
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What we can agree upon is there are radical groups among the far right and within people who claim to follow Islam who commit acts of violence to further their cause.
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Really? Where are “far right” groups doing this?
Also note his phrasing that those who wage violent Jihad are ‘claiming to follow Islam’, as though this is incorrect. Notice that he offers no examples of how this is the case, because he cannot.
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So if we really understand these issues and dissect them in their respective rights we can do our part to make our world a better place and climate for co-existence. We can do so with accurate information.
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“Co-existence”–“Muslim 2017” has himself made it clear that such “co-existence” would only take place when Infidels have submitted to the brutality of Islamic law.
Until then, Infidels can be slaughtered by Muslims with impunity.
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There is no harm in holding discourses and being critical of Islam, as a person who studies Islam I see clearly the distortions on jihad watch.
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Notice that he says nothing about his pious coreligionists threatening the lives of people who dare criticize Islam.
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It is true that Robert Spencer himself doesn’t call for violence against Muslims, the climate he and his colleagues create is very dangerous particularly for Muslim minorities who live in the west.
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We’ve seen this claim before–that daring to say anything negative about Muslim violence is–somehow–actually about violence against Muslims. Nothing but projection.
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For example one CNN report quotes, “In one year, anti-Muslim hate crimes in the United States rose 67%, from 154 incidents in 2014 to 257 in 2015, according to the latest numbers released in the bureau’s Hate Crime Statistics report on Monday. In sheer numbers, anti-Jewish incidents (664) were higher in 2015, but the percentage increase was much higher for incidents involving Muslim victims.” http://edition.cnn.com/2016/11/14/us/fbi-hate-crime-report-muslims/index.html
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Most of these “hate crimes” prove to have been faked by Muslims themselves, or involves such minor matters as some wag draping bacon over a Mosque door knob.
Meanwhile, Muslims have been responsible for over 32,000 Jihad terror attacks just since 9/11. “Muslim 2017” has never had a critical word to say about these atrocities.
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Thank you for echoing the importance of civility. This is needed so that we can understand each other. Sadly the reason why you had to address your colleague regarding his/her unethical approach stems from sites like these and other Islamophobes.
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The idea that “civility” entails crushing any criticism of the horror of Jihad terror–as “Muslim 2017” has demanded–is simply grotesque.
Robin says
Your notion that “Muslim 2017” is stupid is unwise. Some people use their intelligence to defend their errors rather than to criticise them. You have to understand that Muslims live in bubbles of ignorance and self-confirmation. They tend not to even look at sites such as JihadWatch. They believe the widespread propaganda that Islam is indeed peaceful and that the jihadists/ terrorists are not really Muslim. They never ask why Islam is the most hated of all “faiths”, that there is deathly trouble everywhere Muslims go.
gravenimage says
Robin, you are right that “Muslim 2017” is just being a pious Muslim here.
But rational Infidels certainly can pick up on logical contradictions, even if he is not capable of doing so.
As to being civil to this barbarian, I do not address him directly, in any case. I just parse his vicious claptrap for other readers.
Robin says
“As to being civil to this barbarian, I do not address him directly, in any case. I just parse his vicious claptrap for other readers.”
More fool and yob you. When you encounter a person of different views you treat them with contempt. What a contemptible.way to treat someone who takes the trouble to post to a site of the “other side”. Your doing so contributes nothing here. Others are perfectly capable of engaging rationally without need for the obnoxiousness. So please f off. Geddit?
Pnina says
So why do Muslims blow up the masjids, such as the one in Egypt recently and many others in the past? Are the “white racist Islamophobes” making Muslims murder other Muslims en masse?
Muslim 2017 says
The root of this evil are ignorance of Allah’s word also, distortion of the Holy Quran. Here is what Allah says in the Quran about killing the believers and even destroying Churches and Synagogues.
Surah 4:93, “But whoever kills a believer intentionally – his recompense is Hell, wherein he will abide eternally, and Allah has become angry with him and has cursed him and has prepared for him a great punishment.
Surah 22:40, “[They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right – only because they say, “Our Lord is Allah .” And were it not that Allah checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of Allah is much mentioned. And Allah will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, Allah is Powerful and Exalted in Might.”
Robin says
My understanding is that ?Muslim?-?Muslim attacks are due to one group of ?Muslims claiming the other ?Muslims are not really Muslims.
Robin says
“Jay Boo says Dec 3, 2017 at 9:42 am
Muhammad had sex with his daughter -in- law, his recently dead aunt in her grave, and owned child sex slaves.”
It would help if you were to provide source information for such claims rather than leave people wondering if they are true or not. I guess in some Hadith or other.
gravenimage says
More crap from “Muslim 2017”:
The root of this evil are ignorance of Allah’s word also, distortion of the Holy Quran. Here is what Allah says in the Quran about killing the believers and even destroying Churches and Synagogues.
Surah 4:93, “But whoever kills a believer intentionally – his recompense is Hell, wherein he will abide eternally, and Allah has become angry with him and has cursed him and has prepared for him a great punishment.
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Firstly, the idea that Muslims consider Jews to be “believers” is obvious bullsh*t.
Then, the “Prophet” himself made it clear that Muslims can murder heretics and apostates. There is even an Islamic tenet that covers this–Takfir, whereby any Muslim may be deemed “un-Islamic”, and them treated as though he were an Infidel, meaning he can be slaughtered.
This is why Muslims butcher other Muslims–because they regard them as virtual Infidels.
All pious Muslims agree with this–the only disagreements are over exactly which Muslims are fair game.
More:
Surah 22:40, “[They are] those who have been evicted from their homes without right – only because they say, “Our Lord is Allah .” And were it not that Allah checks the people, some by means of others, there would have been demolished monasteries, churches, synagogues, and mosques in which the name of Allah is much mentioned. And Allah will surely support those who support Him. Indeed, Allah is Powerful and Exalted in Might.”
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But of course, the only Jews and Christians who mention the name of Allah in the way this is meant are those who *have converted to Islam*.
The next Ayat makes this quite clear:
Qur’an 22:41:
[And they are] those who, if We give them authority in the land, establish prayer and give zakah and enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong. And to Allah belongs the outcome of [all] matters.
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The only people who give Zakat and–in lslamic terms–“enjoin what is right and forbid what is wrong”–i.e., enforce brutal Shari’ah law–are *Muslims*.
The next Ayat emphasizes this:
“And if they deny you, [O Muhammad] – so, before them, did the people of Noah and ‘Aad and Thamud deny [their prophets],”
Jews and Christians deny that Muhammed is a prophet–the only ones who accept him as a prophet are Muslims.
This Sura is all about Infidels converting to Islam.
Dreadnaught says
How is it that so many Muslims ‘misunderstand’ what is implicitly clear in the Koran? The same clarity that has been used to justify Islamic expansion at the cost of indigenous cultures and millions of lives for 1500 years.
Arab culture is a culture of tribal wars, slavery and plunder. It took Judaism and Christianity and plagiarised their religious texts because they were illiterate Nomads with nothing going for them but the love violence.
What have the Islamists done about their record of crimes against humanity? To this day – Bugger all.
gravenimage says
Robin wrote:
“Jay Boo says Dec 3, 2017 at 9:42 am
Muhammad had sex with his daughter -in- law, his recently dead aunt in her grave, and owned child sex slaves.”
It would help if you were to provide source information for such claims rather than leave people wondering if they are true or not. I guess in some Hadith or other.
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Robin, the story of Muhammed marrying his adopted son’s wife is involved. This site goes over all of the situation:
http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Menj/zaynab.htm
In brief, Muhammed forced his adopted son to divorce his wife so he could marry her when she caught his eye. One further disturbing upshot of this is that Muslims cannot formally adopt children. This leads to further heartache for orphaned kids in Dar-al-Islam.
As for sex with his dead aunt, this is the Hadith:
Narrated by Ibn Abbas:
“I (Muhammad) put on her my shirt that she may wear the clothes of heaven, and I lay down with her in her coffin (grave) that I may lessen the pressure of the grave. She was the best of Allah’s creatures to me after Abu Talib”. .. The prophet was referring to Fatima, the mother of Ali.
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Apparently the word used for “lay down” is most commonly used to indicate “had sex”.
Many Imams have also concluded that Muslims can have sex with their dead wives for up to six hours after their passing.
Muhammed certainly kept sex slaves–both captives he took in Jihad raids and others he was given as gifts, including Mary the Copt.
I’m not sure if any of them were children, although it seems likely. Certainly, he raped little Aisha, although she was–technically–not a slave.
Robin says
>”Robin wrote:
>“Jay Boo says Dec 3, 2017 at 9:42 am
Some good content there from Gravenimage, all the better for lack of the insulting.
Though again, this following needs some citation of documentation:
>”Muhammed certainly kept sex slaves–both captives he took in Jihad raids and others he was given as gifts,”
I can certainly believe it myself in the context of (1) the Hadiths about his pedo “marriage” to Aisha, and (2) the verses which endorse sex-slavery (and don’t put an age limit), such as:
“Married women are forbidden to you except the captives your right (sword) hand possesses.” [4:24]
“O Prophet! We have made lawful to you your wives … and those whom your right (sword) hand possesses of the captives of war whom Allah has assigned to you.” [33:50].
“It is not allowed you to take other women henceforth nor that you should change them for other wives even though their beauty pleased you, except for those whom your right hand possesses.” [33:52]
“Allah promises you will capture much booty.” [48:20]
And the wider context indicating that far from being a prophet he was definitely a criminal in just about every possible way imaginable.
Robin says
“The root of this evil are ignorance of Allah’s word also, distortion of the Holy Quran. Here is..”
This reply from “Gravenimage” is well-argued, just marred by needless insulting language such as the opening c-word which contributes nothing to its merits.
gravenimage says
The appalling “Muslim 2017” wrote:
Another white racist Islamophobe who support dangerous groups such as “Britain First” in order to create a climate of violence towards Muslims.
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Nothing but projection–Pat Condell did not call for violence against Muslims, he merely decried violence *by* Muslims.
Note that “Muslim 2017” has *no* problems with his coreligionists mutilating little girls, committing “Honor Killings”, and plotting violent Jihad.
But then, why would he? All these things are perfectly Halal.
More:
These people forget it is speech like people on Jihad Watch and other platforms that fuels extremists to burn down masjids and fuel an excuse for radical extremists using the name of Islam.
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Of course, Jihad Watch has never once called for violence against Muslims. It has–just like Pat Condell–condemned Jihad terror.
Note, also, “Muslim 2017s” ludicrous implication that Muslims only wage violent Jihad because some Infidels dare speak out against it.
The implication, of course, is that if only we are quiet that Muslims may choose not to murder us.
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The pressure against this kind of hatred will continue.
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What he means is that leftists and Muslims like himself will continue trying to shut good people up from saying anything negative about Muslim savagery.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
“Another white racist Islamophobe who support dangerous groups such as “Britain First” in order to create a climate of violence towards Muslims.”
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Nope. Muslim violence is what creates a climate of violence towards Muslims. You and your bunch have for 1400 years wrapped your violent, intolerant ways in a disguise of victim-hood and self-defense. We see through it: “tamaskan tatamakan” (show a victim’s face [and then] take over).
And long live Jayda Fransen and Britain First!
DEUS VULT!!
Leon Degney says
How is Pat Condrell inciting violence against Muslims or anyone else, for that matter? It has has been well noted that Islamists are inciting violence and perpetuating violence against *infidels* to follow the rules of their Quoran.Where is the establishment’s outcry against this I ask? Crawl back into your hole Muslim 2017, you aren’t even brave enough to use your name.
Robin says
>How is Pat Condell inciting violence against Muslims or anyone else, for that matter? It has has been well noted that Islamists are inciting violence and perpetuating violence against *infidels* to follow the rules of their Quran.
While some Muslims are engaging in “religion of peace” taqiyya deceit, many others actually do believe that the terrorists etc are not “real” Muslims but merely abusing the name of Islam. They are mistaken but they do believe that. A person with that belief is understandably distressed to encounter Pat Condell giving the impression (albeit unintentionally) that genuine Islam and all Muslims/”Muslims” endorse the terror (and hence incite a backlash against them).
I would argue that all “Muslims” do contribute to the terrorism etc by endorsing the quran and its criminal author, but that many such as Muslim 2017 do not understand that that is the case (due to believing Islam’s own “religion of peace” lies).
>Where is the establishment’s outcry against this I ask?
The establishment decry the terrorism while maintaining (honestly or otherwise) that it is “nothing to do with Islam”. I’d have hoped you’d noticed that by now!
>”Crawl back into your hole Muslim 2017, you aren’t even brave enough to use your name.”
At least he/she/it has the courage to come to this site and get insulted by various replies. How about yourself?
Champ says
The lying mohammedan wrote:
“These people forget it is speech like people on Jihad Watch and other platforms that fuels extremists to burn down masjids and fuel an excuse for radical extremists using the name of Islam.”
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What rubbish. The unholy quran and the hadiths are what “fuels” extremists. Period.
Muslim 2017 says
Both the far right extremists and terrorists have one thing in common. Ignorance.
We see this high level of ignorance reflected on Jihad Watch too in abundance. Robert Spencer is doing a great job at making a career feeding off your hate.
The terrorists distort verses from the Holy Quran, I see their foolish material all the time. This is the discussion we are having in the Muslim communities but people who incite others with Islamophobic speech are fueling these groups.
Champ says
Oh please your deceitful comment is so transparent and you aren’t fooling anyone here. And what’s the matter, are you offended by the TRUTH about islam and it’s unholy books?
So did your prophet muhammad distort the unholy quran, too? Oh wait he wrote this manual-for-murder, so never mind, since muhammad was a terrorist, too …
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7Cf49EQWZIY
gravenimage says
The vile “Muslim 2017” wrote, replying to the stalwart Champ:
Both the far right extremists and terrorists have one thing in common. Ignorance.
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We hear this false moral equivalence all the time–that waging violent terrorism and decrying violent terrorism is both “extreme”.
More:
We see this high level of ignorance reflected on Jihad Watch too in abundance. Robert Spencer is doing a great job at making a career feeding off your hate.
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“Hate”–the only hate you see here is against Muslims raping and slaughtering their victims.
“Muslim 2017” still does not have a word to say against this savagery.
More:
The terrorists distort verses from the Holy Quran, I see their foolish material all the time.
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How is this anything but orthodox Islam? Of course, “Muslim 2017” does not say.
More:
This is the discussion we are having in the Muslim communities but people who incite others with Islamophobic speech are fueling these groups.
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Uh huh–funny how that “discussion” has not led to any diminution of Jihad terror. Instead, it is mushrooming.
And note the claim that the cause of Jihad terror is any criticism of Jihad terror. If only we stopped saying that Jihad terror is bad, it would–somehow–cease to be a problem.
In fact, “Muslim 2017” has said that he supports the crushing of any criticism of Jihad.
Robin says
>”Champ says Dec 3, 2017 at 3:19 pm
Oh please your deceitful comment is so transparent “
And you then waste everyone’s time with a six minute video which never gets round to answering that question of “was Mohammed a terrorist”. How ridiculous. Muslims constantly believe that Mo was a wonderful hind hero and present their own would-be evidence such as their misquote of quran 5:32 and the “there is no compulsion in religion” drivel. How about answering them with some facts?
Firstly there is the Sira and numerous Hadiths which make clear the terrorism of the “prophet”, he organised and engaged in numerous battles, and fara from just defensive. But even though most of the Hadiths are “Sahih”, ie. reliably authentic, many Muslims will deny their truth. But numerous verses of the supposedly perfect quran confirm the terroristic nature of Islam. More details at http://www.BecomeATerrorist.com and see also http://www.IslamHoax.com and you don’t even need to piss about for six minutes waiting for a video never to get to the point.
Ralph says
Sorry, but the cause of the violence is not citizens reaction to it, but the actual teachings of your false and hateful prophet, Mohammed.
Carolyne says
Prove it, you ignorant Muslim. Violence by the right is very rare, but an everyday occurrence for Muslims, who are inspired to violence by their evil book, the Koran and by their psychopathic “Prophet” Mohammed (May pig shit be upon him.) Islam should be banned by civilized countries.
Neil Jennison says
Pat Condell is a star……how can anyone disagree with that? It is exactly what is happening here.
JawsV says
Bravo Pat! Always right-on!
Joe Stains says
He’ll live in the UK’s ‘Hall of Fame’
(He got there blow-by-blow)
Your kids will tell THEIR kids his name;
Good-old, Patrick Condell-oh!
Steve K says
The cancer of leftism has metasticized and with the help of Islam is taking over most of the western world.
their goal is to create a climate where there can be no dissent, that way they have unlimited power to completely control our lives.
eduardo odraude says
One of Pat’s best.
Cheer Bear Girl says
Wow, UK is eerily resembling the former USSR.
Then again Sharia law probably makes USSR look like a representative democracy or republic.
Lu says
Spot on, Girl. I had lived through those times behind the Iron Curtain. This is far worse than communism – for we all knew back then that it would end by self-inflicted wounds; we all saw how farcical, pathetic and impotent communism had become after decades of its gradual decay.
This cult won’t disappear as communism did.
Yup – in retrospective, it was a “representative democracy” as you say.
Robin says
Hey, calling someone girl is a hate crime. Now checking your ip address……
gravenimage says
I hope this is sarcasm…
III Frogs says
Islamophobia is rational. Islamophobia is functional. Islamophobia is survival. It’s such a tragedy, that this great country, Britain, the one who gave the world the Magna Carta in 1215, thus instituting the rule of law that seeded both democracy and western civilization at the same time– a rule of law that applies to all, even kings and princes. It is such a travesty and a failure of will, of intellect and of courage. The problem is Islam. Period /”migrant” = Muslim, in the UK where there is no longer free speech, and citizens must submit to sharia Islam blasphemy law which forbids criticism of Islam
Pathfinder0100 says
Kinda strange that quoting the verses of the Koran has been transformed, by the muzzies, into “hate speech”! Don’t cha think??
Guy Forester says
Long live the Declaration of Independence, the US Constitution, and especially the Bill of Rights. They are currently in great jeopardy as congress and the rest of our so called leaders in DC and 50 state capitals try to find ways to increase their power and wealth at the expense of the citizens. At least for now, we are not in the same pickle as the UK and Europe. Not yet, at least.
The Bill of Rights and Constitution do not grant us our rights. They are there to restrain government from infringing on our rights that we have simply because we are a FREE people. Our rights are not granted to us (and therefore revocable) by a King or other human.
Make America Great Again: Clean house in DC and our state capitals. Shred tons of useless, conflicting, and oppressive laws. Fire elected officials that add laws and taxes that destroy our freedoms.
How is that for a rant? Good luck to us, we will need it.
Carolyne says
That’s a good rant.
nicholas tesdorf says
Thank you, Pat for yet another Great speech! The UK is prosecuting its own population for ‘hate speech’ while real crimes like FGM and Rape are ignored by the Police. The UK protects Muslims and prosecutes those who bring its population the Truth. Muslims contribute nothing to Western Civilizations because their ‘holy’ texts tell them that they are ‘the very best of peoples’ and that ‘Jews and Christians are the very worst of Creatures’. They are told that Kaffirs owe them the Jizyah and they need not work as the Dhimmis will do it for them.
Sharia law by stealth is overtaking Britain and converting it into a country that few Australians can now recognize. The destination seems to be Civil War and Civilisational Suicide.
David says
Right on Nicholas. As far as I know, no-one has been prosecuted for FGM in the UK. Well surprise surprise! We mustn’t criticise anyone’s religious and cultural activity, after all.
Benefits=jizyah.
gravenimage says
Pat Condell: Britain’s Hate Speech Police
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Another fine but very disturbing video from Pat Condell.
I love his righteous anger.
Browndog says
This country was once an empire. I find this to be a sad situation and people should not have to suffer this. I have roots there back to Stamford in the middle ages but ancestors that came to America in the 1600’s. Still in New England. Leave that place and come here. We value people who have talents and skills to offer. We also have a 1st and 2nd Amendment. We, and the police, protect and defend our children and do not entertain bullshit. Rural New England.
gravenimage says
If good people abandon Britain the to the barbarian Muslim invaders it will not be a good thing.
Linda says
Pat Condell has such a way with words.
Pathfinder0100 says
Oh Pat! Please be careful and very watchful as there are some bad people out there that are a danger to you!! Above all, watch your back! There’s just not many out there like you and we DO NEED our truth tellers!! God Bless and protect you!!!
Mark A says
Great video Pat. It’s been three months since the last one. I was wondering what had happened to you.
David says
PC CP PC (politically correct Common Purpose Police Cuntstable).
Maybe decent people can register a complaint against muslims for Infidelophobia. No evidence required, presumably. Play them at their own game.
Pathfinder0100 says
Hey David–“Infideophobia”!!! Now there’s a word that I hope many of us pick up on and jump on that band wagon! Well done!!
Robin says
Muslims are not capable of committing hate crimes (just a few unhinged “perverters of a noble faith do sometimes). Please keep up with the true authorised reality.
ronyvo says
What about the royal palace? Is this the sophisticated Britain?
I am so glad the Pres. Trump canceled his visit to this ME country in Europe. Even, not one Muslim country in the ME has attacked our president like the leaders of England, as far as I know.
The world is self destructing soo unbelievable fast.
The satanic Islam has not one single good teachings that we can give it some kind of positive reason to allow it in our countries. Amazing what is happening in the 21st century!!
Robin says
” Islam has not one single good teachings”
Really? Whats not to like about:
“Muhammad is the messenger of Allah. Those who follow
him are merciful to one another, but ruthless to disbelievers.”
[48:29]
“O you who believe! Fight those of the non-Muslims who are
near to you and let them find harshness in you.” [9:123]
“Surely the vilest of animals in Allah’s sight are those who
disbelieve.” [8:55]
“If anyone desires a religion other than Islam, it will never be
accepted of him, and in the Hereafter he will be in the ranks
of the losers.” [3:85]
“Fighting is prescribed for you, and you dislike it. But it
is possible that you dislike a thing which is good for you, and
that you love a thing which is bad for you. But Allah knows,
and you know not.” [2:216]
“Have you not seen those unto whom it was said: Withhold
your hands and establish worship and pay the poor-due? But
when fighting was prescribed for them, behold! a party of
them fear mankind even as they fear Allah or with greater
fear, and they say: Our Lord! why have you ordained fighting
for us? If only you would give us respite for a while. I Say:
The comfort of this world is scant; the Hereafter will be
better for he who wards off evil.” [4:77]
ron says
it will be to late when the masses wake up and realize what islam is all about.
UNCLE VLADDI says
It’s EXACTLY the same, here in Canada:
http://unclevladdi.blogspot.ca/2017/12/canadas-supreme-court-judges.html
More Ham Ed says
Pat Condell is against all faiths. It’s a little too broad of a perspective for me. Esp. given that atheists cannot address the fact that everyone physically DIES eventually and also where did that “big bang” come from etc. Not to mention sarcastically that general convenience of not being accountable to an absolute authority.
Robin says
The problem with these people who are opposed to all faiths is that they overlook that all civilisations have had a “church” at their founding heart (e.g christianity in the western civ), and that all the great geniuses have been very much Christians with almost no exceptions (ie. Einstein the lapsed Jew). Copernicus, Galileo, Faraday, Darwin, Mendel, etc. If you reject xtianity you’d better reject electricity and computers too! Likewise all the great composers had a strong line in religious music, even the most “evil” Liszt and Wagner.
gravenimage says
Jews and some atheists have been great inventors as well as Christians.
Certainly, the Judeo-Christian West–and those societies influenced by them–have been the most innovative of all societies–and Islam the least.
Lydia says
The truth marches on; with me as its mouthpiece, loudspeaker, and trumpet.
Come what may. No one else will stand up for the truth, human rights, our way of life, democracy, and freedom of religion. No one else will stand up for Christianity, the true God, and reveal the evils of islam. We must do it, or we will get the alternative Orwellian nightmare.
Malcolm Jackson says
We are never going to stop the Muslim invasion and conquest of the UK until we have stopped Tony Blair’s Common Purpose 5th Column from controlling the UK.
Until proven otherwise, from now on I am taking for granted that all of the United Kingdom’s Police Forces are controlled by Common Purpose Police Chiefs.
All the hierarchy of every UK Police Force use the same sound bites about Islam.
Every time there is a Muslim terror atrocity in the UK, these so called Police Commissioners spout the same Common Purpose garbage about this not being Islam, that Muslims are a peaceful people, Islam is the Religion of Peace, Muslims must be protected against reprisal attacks. Nothing is ever said about the non-Muslim population being protected from the evil cult of Islam.
Aiding Tony Blair’s Islamic conquest of the UK is the main aim of these Common Purpose Police Commissioners. Removing these Common Purpose Puppets from their commanding positions and replacing them with proper , real, patriotic Police Officers, will be a major blow to the Islamic invasion of the UK.
Robin says
“We are never going to stop the Muslim invasion and conquest of the UK until we have stopped Tony Blair’s Common Purpose 5th Column from controlling the UK.”
I wouldn’t be so pessimistic. The regime has been trying to uphold its “huge benefits of immigration” etc false ideology. A regime does not change its false ideology willingly or easily. An independent individual can change their mind but an institutionalised individual has to stay “on message”, at least publicly.
So the regime have been using ever stronger (more desperate) measures of “hate crime” to suppress the truth getting out. A problem with this is that when groups depend on lying rather than honest discussion, they become dysfunctional. And some extreme dysfunction in Westminster lately.
The thought control is failing, a huge proportion do not believe the approved dogmas of “huge benefits of immigration” and “nothing to do with Islam”. The pendulum is swinging, PC is on the backfoot, the backlash is ever growing. And the regime of lies will fall. Soon.
Their latest resort is to label their approved websites as “true”. As millions of us will immediately recognise that as a certificate of “fake”, that’s going to work like piss.
Robin says
On bbc radio just now, latest rubbish film about how being a “refugee” is the worst possible thing ever. Stars Ai WeiWei who is a “dissident” hence a hero unlike for instance R Spencer, P Geller, Assange, Snowden, K Hopkins, P Weston, etc who are of course just evil hate criminals instead. zzzzzz……..
thomas says
The distribution of Pat’s video puts him at risk for the purported non-sense crime of hate speech.
The USA must keep its freedom of speech and to bare arms!!!
Islam has been attacking the West non-stop for more than a thousand years.
We all should be very thankful for Poland’s defense of Vienna on September 11, 1683.
Without this victory, Europe would Islamic.
terry says
Pat is a modern day hero in every sense of the word.