This video is from November 20, but in light of yesterday’s jihad bombing in the New York subway, it is all the more timely.
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mortimersays
Thanks to Grant Strinchfield for exposing the unexamined, PRESUMPTUOUS ASSUMPTIONS of neo-Marxists who make costly policies about Islam without having read ANY of Islam’s primary texts or even knowing the names of them. Those boneheads pontificate about how lack of opportunity causes jihad, because that theory is straight out of Marxism.
Robert Spencer points out that many jihadists have been millionaires.
Conclusion: IT’S THE IDEOLOGY, STUPID !
Walter Sieruksays
The jihadist’s attacks in Western nations be the Muslim terrorists as seen in that such vicious malicious and murderous jihad attacks with the heinous Islamic intention of inflecting “great slaughter” occur in the cities of the West. Such cities as New York City, London, Manchester, , Barcelona, Stockholm, Brussels, Stockholm, Paris, Nice, Berlin, Madrid and so forth. Those jihad-minded Muslim terrorists who engage in those vicious Islamic terror attacks cannot be and will not be reasoned with. They will not respond to either logic or reason. They aren’t interested, at all, in reason or logic. So they have to be dealt with by a strong force of might. Either by the police or the military. For to even try to reason with a jihad-minded Muslim terrorist is just as much an act of futility as trying to teach algebra to a rabbit.
mortimersays
Disagree with: “will not respond to either logic or reason”. Every human being responds to reason. It requires great patience to enter the mind of a jihadist and unravel the contortions of thought, but it can be done. I speak from experience.
Many former Muslims are the GREATEST of counterjihadists!
Phil Copsonsays
“Every human being responds to reason” – Simple answer: No, they don’t.
Thomas Kimballsays
While we are trying to reason with one that we might get through to how many other innocent people must die. We don’t have the time ,and if we can’t rehabilitate criminals how well will we do with radical muslims?
gravenimagesays
Mortimer wrote:
Disagree with: “will not respond to either logic or reason”. Every human being responds to reason.
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No, not everyone responds to reason. And those who have been steeped in a creed that rejects reason are especially unlikely to respond to logic.
More:
It requires great patience to enter the mind of a jihadist and unravel the contortions of thought, but it can be done. I speak from experience.
……………………….
Really? How many Jihadists have you personally “deprogrammed”? This is the first you have mentioned this.
More:
Many former Muslims are the GREATEST of counterjihadists!
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This is true in some cases. But none of these former Muslims left Islam because they were “deprogrammed” by Infidels. You have yet to show any evidence that this has ever happened.
I’m skeptical about this too. Some counter-jihadis seem to put their hopes in our supposed ability to talk Muslims out of their faith. I’m aware of the nascent ex-Muslim movement; and I’m very supportive of it — but if any non-Muslims have had real success in causing Muslims to apostatize, I’ve never heard of it.
gravenimagesays
True, Savvy Kafir–I have the greatest respect for Muslim apostates, but have seen no indication that any of them have been “deprogrammed” by Infidels.
mortimersays
Jihad is an ESSENTIAL TEACHING of Islam (usul ud-deen) that is incumbent upon all Muslims and requisite to be admitted to Islamic paradise.
As one of those rare Lefties who is both an NRA member & a counter-jihadi, I was totally stoked to see Robert Spencer on NRA-TV. Didn’t realize a connection had been established there. It’s a good fit.
I’m sure many of the more conservative members of the NRA agree with everything Spencer & his interviewer say in this video.
gravenimagesays
+1
Samsays
What a strange world we live in. Media will not talk about the enemy of humanity, ISLAM which is killing innocent lives daily but have no problem accusing our president TRUMP of collusion and sexual assault to women. Worst part of it is a lot of people believe in fake news.
I don’t know if we can turn this trend in our life time to save our freedom.
PRCSsays
I do hope that at some point, the notion of “their radical ideas” will be challenged–on the spot.
Singh the Sikhsays
Americans finding out and experiencing what India has known/experienced for hundreds of years – what’s it like to have Muslims in the country/neighbourhood. India’s cries used to fall on deaf ears. America always supported Pakistan against India. Hopefully, America will learn from its rude and deadly awakening and act – sooner rather than later.
Aussie Infidelsays
Sing, My in-laws lived through the time of partition in India, and said that many murders of Hindus and Sikhs went unreported or uninvestigated. I was only speaking today to a sikh gentleman at our local Indian restaurant (we had some Korma chicken and Naan noori for lunch). He also painted a gloomy picture of the Muslim problem confronting India, and spoke about how his family became divided in the partition of Pakistan and the break-up of the Punjab, and he ended up in Australia.
As you say, hopefully, America will learn from what has happened in India and Bangladesh, and also in Myanmar with the Rohingiyas. At least under Trump, it has a chance. Most other immigrant groups around the world have learned to accommodate each other’s beliefs and customs and live together in peace – but not the Muslims – all they have ever wanted is world conquest for Allah. President Modi in India knows that only too well, and it is refreshing to see him turning India away from socialism toward countries like Israel and hopefully America. I notice that Trump often mentions the “American Pacific and Indian economic region” in his speeches. Let’s hope that other Western leaders – including our own – follow his example.
Singh the Sikhsays
Yes, Muslims are never satisfied. They want to grab everything they lay eyes on, just like their paedophile/rapist false prophet. After they dismembered India and carved out Pakistan for themselves, they want Kashmir. The goal is the entire reconquest bof India. Greedy bastards want Jerusalem too. Mecca is their holiest site but they also turn Jerusalem into their holy site and lay claim to it also. Europe and the US face a deadly insurgency and civil war unless they awaken from their stupidity, but it may be too late already.
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mortimer says
Thanks to Grant Strinchfield for exposing the unexamined, PRESUMPTUOUS ASSUMPTIONS of neo-Marxists who make costly policies about Islam without having read ANY of Islam’s primary texts or even knowing the names of them. Those boneheads pontificate about how lack of opportunity causes jihad, because that theory is straight out of Marxism.
Robert Spencer points out that many jihadists have been millionaires.
Conclusion: IT’S THE IDEOLOGY, STUPID !
Walter Sieruk says
The jihadist’s attacks in Western nations be the Muslim terrorists as seen in that such vicious malicious and murderous jihad attacks with the heinous Islamic intention of inflecting “great slaughter” occur in the cities of the West. Such cities as New York City, London, Manchester, , Barcelona, Stockholm, Brussels, Stockholm, Paris, Nice, Berlin, Madrid and so forth. Those jihad-minded Muslim terrorists who engage in those vicious Islamic terror attacks cannot be and will not be reasoned with. They will not respond to either logic or reason. They aren’t interested, at all, in reason or logic. So they have to be dealt with by a strong force of might. Either by the police or the military. For to even try to reason with a jihad-minded Muslim terrorist is just as much an act of futility as trying to teach algebra to a rabbit.
mortimer says
Disagree with: “will not respond to either logic or reason”. Every human being responds to reason. It requires great patience to enter the mind of a jihadist and unravel the contortions of thought, but it can be done. I speak from experience.
Many former Muslims are the GREATEST of counterjihadists!
Phil Copson says
“Every human being responds to reason” – Simple answer: No, they don’t.
Thomas Kimball says
While we are trying to reason with one that we might get through to how many other innocent people must die. We don’t have the time ,and if we can’t rehabilitate criminals how well will we do with radical muslims?
gravenimage says
Mortimer wrote:
Disagree with: “will not respond to either logic or reason”. Every human being responds to reason.
……………………….
No, not everyone responds to reason. And those who have been steeped in a creed that rejects reason are especially unlikely to respond to logic.
More:
It requires great patience to enter the mind of a jihadist and unravel the contortions of thought, but it can be done. I speak from experience.
……………………….
Really? How many Jihadists have you personally “deprogrammed”? This is the first you have mentioned this.
More:
Many former Muslims are the GREATEST of counterjihadists!
……………………….
This is true in some cases. But none of these former Muslims left Islam because they were “deprogrammed” by Infidels. You have yet to show any evidence that this has ever happened.
Savvy Kafir says
I’m skeptical about this too. Some counter-jihadis seem to put their hopes in our supposed ability to talk Muslims out of their faith. I’m aware of the nascent ex-Muslim movement; and I’m very supportive of it — but if any non-Muslims have had real success in causing Muslims to apostatize, I’ve never heard of it.
gravenimage says
True, Savvy Kafir–I have the greatest respect for Muslim apostates, but have seen no indication that any of them have been “deprogrammed” by Infidels.
mortimer says
Jihad is an ESSENTIAL TEACHING of Islam (usul ud-deen) that is incumbent upon all Muslims and requisite to be admitted to Islamic paradise.
Savvy Kafir says
Good stuff!
As one of those rare Lefties who is both an NRA member & a counter-jihadi, I was totally stoked to see Robert Spencer on NRA-TV. Didn’t realize a connection had been established there. It’s a good fit.
I’m sure many of the more conservative members of the NRA agree with everything Spencer & his interviewer say in this video.
gravenimage says
+1
Sam says
What a strange world we live in. Media will not talk about the enemy of humanity, ISLAM which is killing innocent lives daily but have no problem accusing our president TRUMP of collusion and sexual assault to women. Worst part of it is a lot of people believe in fake news.
I don’t know if we can turn this trend in our life time to save our freedom.
PRCS says
I do hope that at some point, the notion of “their radical ideas” will be challenged–on the spot.
Singh the Sikh says
Americans finding out and experiencing what India has known/experienced for hundreds of years – what’s it like to have Muslims in the country/neighbourhood. India’s cries used to fall on deaf ears. America always supported Pakistan against India. Hopefully, America will learn from its rude and deadly awakening and act – sooner rather than later.
Aussie Infidel says
Sing, My in-laws lived through the time of partition in India, and said that many murders of Hindus and Sikhs went unreported or uninvestigated. I was only speaking today to a sikh gentleman at our local Indian restaurant (we had some Korma chicken and Naan noori for lunch). He also painted a gloomy picture of the Muslim problem confronting India, and spoke about how his family became divided in the partition of Pakistan and the break-up of the Punjab, and he ended up in Australia.
As you say, hopefully, America will learn from what has happened in India and Bangladesh, and also in Myanmar with the Rohingiyas. At least under Trump, it has a chance. Most other immigrant groups around the world have learned to accommodate each other’s beliefs and customs and live together in peace – but not the Muslims – all they have ever wanted is world conquest for Allah. President Modi in India knows that only too well, and it is refreshing to see him turning India away from socialism toward countries like Israel and hopefully America. I notice that Trump often mentions the “American Pacific and Indian economic region” in his speeches. Let’s hope that other Western leaders – including our own – follow his example.
Singh the Sikh says
Yes, Muslims are never satisfied. They want to grab everything they lay eyes on, just like their paedophile/rapist false prophet. After they dismembered India and carved out Pakistan for themselves, they want Kashmir. The goal is the entire reconquest bof India. Greedy bastards want Jerusalem too. Mecca is their holiest site but they also turn Jerusalem into their holy site and lay claim to it also. Europe and the US face a deadly insurgency and civil war unless they awaken from their stupidity, but it may be too late already.