“Despite the fact that they lived among Muslims — who are the vast majority of the population in Jordan — my Christian host family bought into these Christian TV channels’ negative portrayals of Islam,” notes Jordan Denari Duffner’s new book. Such passages unintentionally reveal in Finding Jesus among Muslims: How Loving Islam Makes Me a Better Catholic the shocking superficiality of an emerging “expert” who ignores the oppression of Christians under Islam.
Duffner recently launched her book at her alma mater, Georgetown University, where she is currently a doctoral student studying Christianity and Islam. Her previous work has involved pro-Islam propaganda at the Bridge Initiative against “Islamophobia” of Georgetown’s Saudi-funded Prince Alwaleed bin Talal Center for Muslim-Christian Understanding (ACMCU). Tellingly, in light of the currently criticized official Catholic Church approaches towards Islam, she has also worked for the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops (USCCB).
Duffner questioned her Catholic upbringing during college but “came back to Catholicism in response to the beauty I saw in Islam,” she notes in explaining her book title of how “Islam makes me a better Catholic.” At Georgetown, she “started going to events hosted by the Muslim Student Association [MSA], and eventually joined the group’s governing board,” despite the radical background of America’s first Muslim Brotherhood (MB) affiliate. She “attended Islamic liturgies on occasional Fridays and festive dinners during the Islamic holy month of Ramadan,” as well as a Muslim student retreat, and lived in Georgetown’s “Muslim living-learning community.” “Countless times, God has loved me through the Muslims I’ve met,” she notes.
Like her fellow “scholar” on “Islamophobia,” Todd Green, Duffner cites the late professor and Lutheran bishop Krister Stendahl, an interreligious dialogue advocate. He “coined the term ‘holy envy’ to describe his feeling of admiration, and even desire, for aspects of other faith traditions.” Accordingly, her “Catholicism is complemented, challenged, and bolstered all at the same time, due to my engagement with Islam.”
Duffner’s book accordingly opens with a detailed description of her reverential 2016 visit to the Umm Haram mosque in Cyprus, named after a foster aunt of Islam’s seventh-century prophet Muhammad. As her book elsewhere explains:
Since childhood, I have experienced a sense of reverence when approaching the consecrated Host, the Body of Christ, stored in the gilded tabernacle. A similar feeling also wells up in me today when I enter a mosque, like the one I visited in Cyprus, or when I hear the adhan, the melodic call to worship recited in Arabic before Islamic prayer.
Duffner notes the effect of the adhan upon her in Amman, Jordan, where she stayed both as a Georgetown undergraduate in a semester abroad and as a Fulbright scholar researching Christian-Muslim relations after college:
The first words of the adhan, the call to prayer, are Allahu Akbar, “God is greater.” Hearing these words when I lived in Amman was a constant reminder to me that God always exceeds our expectations and transcends the limited beliefs we have about him.
Yet Duffner’s infatuation with Islamic piety ignores the repressive supremacist nature of Islamic political doctrines. The Umm Haram mosque, for example, commemorates this woman’s death when she fell from a horse during a 649 Islamic raid upon Cyprus at the beginning of this island’s long struggles against ravaging Islamic invaders. Allahu Akbar, meanwhile, signifies that the supposed Islamic faith of Allah is greater than any other belief system; hence jihadists use this phrase as a war cry.
Duffner places her engagement with Islam in the context of Catholic teaching on religious groups outside of the Catholic Church, expressed in the 1965 Second Vatican Council document Nostra Aetate. “Emphasizing our commonalities first, and our differences down the line, is the approach the Catholic Church takes in Nostra Aetate,” she observes. “The Catholic Church rejects nothing of what is true and holy in these religions” outside the Catholic Church, she quotes from Nostra Aetate.
Duffner therefore notes Catholic Church teaching that interfaith dialogue is a “walk together towards truth” and highlights Father Christian Chergé, a rather unsettling example of ecumenism portrayed in the acclaimed film Of Gods and Men. This French priest lived much of his life in Algeria and heroically continued his Christian witness in dialogue with friendly Muslims even as Algeria faced a brutal jihadist insurgency throughout the 1990s. Murdered by jihadists in 1996, he and 18 other Catholic clerics killed in Algeria’s bloodbath are now going through the Catholic Church’s canonization process for their martyrdom due to jihadist “odium fidei.”
Duffner emphasizes Chergé’s understanding of Christian-Muslim “dialogue as climbing on a ladder to God. One side-beam is Christianity, the other is Islam, and the many rungs are shared by both the Muslims and Christians who climb it.” Yet her focus on Christian-Muslim monotheistic commonalities often goes to extremes, such as when she discussed Islamic rejection of the Christian belief in Jesus’ divinity with a Muslim Amman cab driver. The cabbie’s questionable claim that this dispute means that merely a “strand of hair is what divides” Christians and Muslims reminded her of Islamic accounts of Muslim refugees in Ethiopia during Islam’s founding period.
In these well-known accounts the ruling Negus of Ethiopia’s Christian kingdom makes ecumenical observations to the Muslims seeking refuge similar to the cabbie’s comments. Thus Duffner writes that Christian-Muslim “theological differences are thin, almost invisible.” Yet her astonishing assessment overlooks that the Negus’ minimization of Christian-Muslim theological differences derived precisely from his Christian heresy that divided Jesus’ divine and human natures (Nestorianism).
Duffner’s assertion of good Christian-Muslim relations in Jordan, oft-touted as a “country with a long history of interfaith coexistence,” defies facts documented by Open Doors, an organization monitoring global persecution of Christians. “There are few places — including the United States — where I have felt more comfortable visibly proclaiming my Christian faith,” she writes of her stays in Amman lasting over a year. Yet Open Doors has consistently placed Jordan (2018 ranking: #21) along with many other majority-Muslim countries on the organization’s annual World Watch List of the 50 worst persecutors worldwide of Christians.
Duffner’s own writing calls into question her expertise in evaluating countries such as Jordan. During her 2012 semester abroad, she once heard in her bedroom in her host family’s Amman home a
loud voice echoing through a megaphone outside. Only a couple of weeks into my study abroad experience, I was startled by a man’s garbled Arabic speech and his rushed, emphatic tone.
Duffner “wondered. He sounds angry. Is he calling his fellow Jordanians to rise up!” Yet it was merely a taped advertising message played from the truck of a neighborhood produce seller. Still struggling with Arabic, she received a proper translation from her Arab Christian (Roman Catholic) host family.
Yet Duffner presumed to know better about Islam than her indigenous hosts with their previously noted approval of North American-produced television concerning Islam. These programs often presented “Islam using the same stereotypes and false claims about violence, misogyny, and intolerance that I heard on cable news in the United States.” Two extended host family members, a host mother’s cousin and an “older Catholic priest who wore a cassock and a big silver cross around his neck,” only added their own confirmation of this televised message when they visited.
Duffner told the visitors of her studies of “Muslim-Christian relations” (why this non-alphabetical formulation, as in ACMCU?), and the “conversation quickly turned to Islam.” For the visitors, the “Qur’an and the Prophet Muhammad encouraged violence, mistreatment of women, and oppression of non-Muslims.” The visitors’ approving knowledge of American writers who promoted “Islamophobia” shocked her.
Duffner remembered the visit:
Throughout the conversation, the cousin kept repeating the refrain, “We don’t hate Muslims, we just hate Islam.” The priest was even less charitable — “I hate both,” he said. When he took off his jacket, I noticed he carried a gun, an uncommon thing to see in Amman. Later he said to my nine-year-old host brother, “Never trust a Muslim.”
Duffner recalled that the “conversation at my Jordanian host family’s house hurt me,” given her close relationship with Muslims, but she bizarrely dismissed the host family’s sentiments as resulting from ignorance. “Knowing that my host family had Muslim acquaintances and neighbors, I wondered how they could have such negative views of Muslims and Islam.” She summarily concluded without any evidence that the family member relationships “with Muslims were not all that close or personal.” Thus she could only tritely claim that “in the absence of deep, substantive relationships, the negative media — which seemed more intent on sowing conflict than improving understanding — filled in the void.”
Yet Duffner’s Jordanian host family is no anomaly, as numerous Christians from Muslim-majority countries like Egypt, Iran, Iraq, Nigeria, Pakistan, and Syria as well as the Jewish state of Israel have expressed similar thoughts to this author. By contrast, her ACMCU echo chamber only hosts Christian speakers like a uniquely pro-MB Egyptian Copt who had to rescind his 2013 Georgetown speaking engagement upon revelation of his neo-Nazi past. For perspective, she could venture out in Washington, DC, to meet other Middle Eastern Christians from Jordan and elsewhere at In Defense of Christians (IDC) annual conference. Here Knights of Columbus Supreme Knight Carl Anderson, a central actor in obtaining American recognition of Islamic State genocide against Christians, has argued that Islamic dhimmi oppression of non-Muslims is a “precursor to genocide.” Any true scholar would accurately assess these Christian real-life encounters with Islam, but as further analysis of Duffner’s understanding of Islamic theology will reveal, she is more interested in ACMCU’s agitprop than real knowledge.
John Armitage says
She may change her tune, after she is foced to pay jizzyah!
concerned canadian says
or nailed upside down on a cross who knows
CRUSADER says
How Islam Will Fail In The West
ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eMu67qiM9mM#action=share
https://www.europeandefenceleague.com/2018/01/23/second-interview-with-gavin-boby-mosquebusting-successes/
Second Interview with Gavin Boby
Mosquebusting Successes and How Islam Will Fail In The West
++++++++++++
Richard says
This is absolutely ridiculous! Yes, there are lot of wonderful things about Islam. “God is greatest!” Who could deny it? Their call to prayer is absolutely gorgeous. So? It’s the call to the great whorehouse in the sky with its seventy-two raisons and permanent erections..Yes, Muslims revere Jesus, but they do so as a prophet, not as God. To accept the Muslim view of Him requires the total rejection of Christianity I cannot lay my finger on that part of the Bible where Jesus says it is alright to go out and rape non-Christians, much less to cut off their heads. As a priest once said: “If something has a hundred different points in it and ninety-nine are absolutely magnificent and one is slightly wrong, then the whole thing is of the devil.This woman’s whole mindset is just insane.
gravenimage says
The role of the Muslim “Jesus” in the last days is to *kill Christians*.
Andy says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=834&v=zcOkrSXrQ0g
CRUSADER says
http://www.primanews.org/2015/09/topless-femen-protesters-storm-stage-at-controversial-muslim-conference-in-paris-nsfw/
Two members of the protest group Femen have been arrested after disrupting a controversial Muslim conference in Paris.
The topless women – with the words “Nobody makes me submit” painted on their chests – stormed the stage at the event in Pontoise, northwest of the capital.
The stunt saw the women shout feminist slogans in Arabic and French as two Imams addressed the audience, before they were physically removed from the stage by a number of men.
Femen leader Inna Shevchenko says the activists, aged 25 and 31, received death threats from the audience.
The conference – which reportedly addressed the role of women in Islam – was subject to a Change.org petition calling for it to be cancelled.
The petition states guests included: “Fundamentalist preachers such as Abu Anas Nader, known for having legitimised marital rape and the wider submission of women.”
Shevchenko told Huffington Post UK the protesters were from Muslim families and had raised their voices “in disgust at this public hate speech.”
She added: “It was our duty to interrupt this enslavement event, and to let a scream of freedom be heard in the middle of their submission lessons.
“The Imams were very careful in their speech this time as the public outrage by the event was loud. The Imam was addressing the question of whether women should be beaten or not and said that as Mohammed didn’t beat women, the men shouldn’t do it as well.
“Just a minute later, Femen activists were brutally beaten up by the organisers of the event on the same stage.”
It states: “Medhi Kabir was asking Muslims to be exemplary with women, ‘to follow the model of the prophet’ who ‘never slapped his wife’ [before the Femen protesters entered the stage].
“Here is the last sentence said: ‘We want Muslims and Muslims who behave like the Prophet behaved’.”
According to the Telegraph the women were released after being questioned by prosecutors who will continue to investigate the incident. It reports the conference organisers say they will press charges against them.
Femen, which was started in Ukraine before moving to Paris, has become known for it particular method of protest, having demonstrated on a raft of issues from prostitution, female genital mutilation to the wearing of the hijab.
gravenimage says
Good for Femen!
Custos Custodum says
Meanwhile, Duffner is basking in the attention and adulation, and receiving much encouragement from her slimy masters and their American lackeys.
Al-Waleed-Georgetown probably promised her some job if she keeps up the propaganda effort for another 5 years.
Don Foss says
I think it was Lenin who coined the phrase that fits this fool: “Useful idiot.”
jihad3tracker says
SELF-DESCRIBED “CATHOLICS” AT GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY are totally corrupted by Prince Alwaleed’s oil money. If you do not already know how the ACMCU got started, get up to speed on that.
In addition to whatever is PUBLICLY on record for salaries of those on campus peddling propaganda, like Jordan Duffner, Nathan Lean, John Esposito, Jonathan Brown, ad nauseam, I am certain there are additional “remunerations” which never see the light of day.
jihad3tracker says
OOOPS ! ! !
Brown is, of course, a convert to Islam, and the foul-mouth thug Nathan Lean might also be, along with John Esposito. My point stands, though, about Duffner, and other “Catholics” who always ignore jihad. And I would not be surprised if the top admins on that campus, including the president, are secretly getting Saudi $$$.
Michael Copeland says
Prince Alwaleed has been arrested for corruption in Saudi Arabia.
E.L.O says
Bin Talal is helping ISIS too!
jihad3tracker says
HELLO M.C. — Thank you for that reminder. The ACMCU has been a fixture on Georgetown’s campus for at least two decades, so there has been plenty of time for establishing a network to channel money toward people working there.
For those of us who followed the Stanford smear campaign against Robert Spencer, accompanied by Nanci Howe & Snehal Naik engineering the “spontaneous” walk-out of students, what we were probably seeing was a consequence of under-the-table Saudi money, OR the hope of a future mega-buck grant to create a suck-up Islamo pandering institution on campus there.
c matt says
Well, to be fair, Georgetown was pretty anti-Catholic before the oil money. They probably just figure, if you’re going to be anti-Catholic anyway, might as well pick up some loose change for it.
Rev G. says
Or becomes a captive possessed by the right hand of a Muslim man.
Sons of Liberty says
Ms.Duffner wonders how her host Christian family could have such negative views of Muslims and Islam ? Seriously , Ms. Duffner ? Maybe it’s because they live with them on a daily basis and not just on a semester abroad ! I question whether Ms. Duffner has really read the Qur’an or ANY HISTORY of Muhammad and the Muslim invasions he spawned over the Centuries ! Does she know that Zarqawi , A JORDANIAN , was the guy cutting off infidel’s heads with a dull knife in Iraq ? This woman is just plain ol’ ignorant …or she is participating in taqiyya for the Muslims.
joanofark06 says
Apparantly she’s never read the bible, or seen these verses:
Thou shalt have no other gods before me. (Exodus 20:3)
“I am the way, the truth, and the life; no man comes unto the Father but by me.” (John 14:6)
The Bible tells us clearly that “there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus …” (1 Timothy 2:5)
“Neither is there salvation in any other: for there is none other name under heaven given among men, whereby we must be saved.” (Acts 4:12)
The Apostle Paul said:
But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed. (Galatians 1:8)
It can’t be any clearer than THAT! And she CLAIMS to be a CHRISTIAN! She needs help with many prayers!
Aaron says
There are many Catholic apostates within the Church. Maybe one day she will convert to the Baha’i Faith.
Pete says
Or put on the auction block.
concerned canadian says
foolish girl to say the least
clueless
this stems from fear and cowardice
I think some people just like being subserviant
mortimer says
agree with CC: “foolish, clueless, subservient”. Duffner doesn’t realize how manipulated she is. She is a USEFUL IDIOT.
“Useful idiot” is a term of mockery for a person who acts as a propagandist for a cause the goals of which they are not fully aware, and who is deftly manipulated and cynically utilized by the leaders of the cause.
A useful idiot is politically useful fool, a laughable naïf, manipulated by ideologues, and secretly held in contempt by them, but whose blind support is happily accepted and exploited.
In other words, “a useful idiot” describes Westerners duped into saying good things about bad regimes or bad ideologies, especially neo-Marxist and celebrities, who innocently enough think they are standing up for world peace, but are actually just being apologists for brutal despotism.
Duffner is a gullible POLLYANNA … I doubt if she knows even the NAMES of Islam’s primary source texts, let alone what is in them. She is a virtue-signalling nincompoop.
mike9a says
nincompoop ROFLMAO
Yep, if she could provide a SINGLE reason to love what she loves?
In 99 attributes of Q’s god, LOVE is not one of them!
JawsV says
So, when did she escape from the insane asylum?
Custos Custodum says
Some people are addicted to heroin, others to attention.
tim gallagher says
I agree with your comment, JawsV, about the insanity . Looking at the photo of that woman holding up the sign, my immediate reaction is that the violent Koran is the exact opposite of the viewpoint of the Christian religion. Any person has to be insane, or just staggeringly dumb, to love an ideology that is the antithesis of their own belief system. It’s like saying “I believe in democracy but I love Nazism”. That’s the same as saying, “I’m a Christian and I love the Koran”. Insane alright. Just makes no sense at all. Of course, in the case of the woman holding up the sign, I’d say she’s never even bothered to read a word of the foul Koran, with its endless calls for violence. As for this writer of garbage, Duffner, what a fool. As Andrew says, the “shocking superficiality of an emerging “expert””. Spot on, Andrew. Sums up that “expert” perfectly. The idea that there’s almost nothing, “a strand of hair” between Christianity and Islam. Staggeringly stupid.
joanofark06 says
Exactly right…I thought all the same things you said!
She might not have bothered to read a sigle word of the koran, but apparently she hasn’t read a single word of the BIBLE, either!!
joanofark06 says
Exactly right…I thought all the same things you said!
She might not have bothered to read a single word of the koran, but apparently she hasn’t read a single word of the BIBLE, either!!
JawsV says
Every so often emerge these young Western blondies who go gaga over Islam. Figures she attends Georgetown, the most vile Islamo-pandering Uni in the U.S. She’s brainwashed along with being a few ants short of a picnic.
Phil Copson says
“Every so often emerge these young Western blondies who go gaga over Islam.”
“But they’ve got such nice carpets in there, and that onion thing on top, and Rouhani looks just like my favourite uncle – I’m sure he’d never do anything mean…….I’ve just bought an amazing Athena poster on Amazon of those wrinkly old Afghan men in robes in those really really bare mountains holding rifles and things, and I was like “Oh, my God – that would just look so super-cool on my bedroom wall” ? I was into pilates but islam is just so now….”
JawsV says
Ha-Ha! Her parents should be ashamed spawning such a moron.
JawsV says
Ha! Islam — ain’t it cool?!
gravenimage says
Hilarious, Phil! Yes–this is more brutality chic, just like the idiots who revere Che, but seem to have missed his reguarly lining innocent people up against a wall and gunning them down.
StellaSaidSo says
Georgetown.
Bought and paid for by the Saudis. They must be very proud.
Carol (the 1st) says
Georgetown is Jesuit. Aren’t Jesuits all about money?
Infidel says
One of those dimwit feminazzis who are playing their role of bringing down the West..
gravenimage says
Disgusting.
Hugh Fitzgerald says
Everything was all right, said the Frenchman, until Stupidity began to think. (“La betise s’est mise a penser”).
StellaSaidSo says
C’est vrai, c’est vrai.
If Duffner had one less IQ point, she’d need watering.
Steve says
A world class dhimmi stooge. Surely the Islamists can’t believe their luck. Stooges this profound, are a joy for them.
JawsV says
She’ll be sporting a hijab soon and be one of 4 wives.
JawsV says
She’ll be sporting a hijab soon.
joanofark06 says
And be the replacement in this L’Oreal commercial, and shampoo her…jijab!
L’Oréal Paris chooses anti-Semitic Amena Khan for its new campaign
https://pamelageller.com/2018/01/l-oreal-paris-chooses-anti-semitic-amena-khan-new-campaign.html/
And now she steps down:
L’Oreal Hijab Model Amena Khan Steps Down over Tweets Calling Israel ‘Child Murderers’
http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/01/22/loreal-muslim-model-steps-anti-israel-twitter-posts-surface/
JawsV says
How old is she? Her brain’s not fully developed. She deserves 100% contempt.
Custos Custodum says
Her brain is as developed as it will ever be.
Let’s applaud her for doing what she can with what she has.
Like a female dog walking on two legs, she will always get some attention but never any respect.
samdav7 says
I’ve studied and lived with Islam for 50 years and can confidently confirm that Denari Duffner’s one year study in Amman, Jordan is an absolute rubbish, not even worth mentioning !
samdav7 says
She might have a Muslim boyfriend, that might explain why she tried so hard to find any excuse to defend Islam, the most evil ideology !
Strangerinastrangeland says
Bet you are right.
c matt says
Belief in the divinity of Christ is non-negotiable in EVERY sect of Christianity. Otherwise, it would not be Christianity.
Notoislamama says
So, this entitled brat knows more than people actually living the experience of being Christian in a majority Muslim country. She is an appalling example of successful brainwashing.
Terry Gain says
My thoughts exactly. Does she even know that under Islamic law her testimony is worth half of a man’s testimony and a Muslim woman’s inheritance is half of a man’s inheritance. And God help her if she is raped because no Muslim Judge will.
samdav7 says
In Islam
A woman is equal to POOH
One of three things that cancels the male Muslim’s prayer is .. a black dog .. a pooh job .. and a woman
They’re all evil !
kuriakose says
What a sick woman. Mind is diseased.
JawsV says
Georgetown will do that.
R Russell says
Has she compared the characters of the 2 deities in question?
I don’t think so for I get the impression she thinks their is only one deity involved.
I think she needs a different understanding of Allahu Akbar.
Which God is greater and why is it not YHWH Akbar?
MFritz says
Well, and now go ahead and marry one of your beloved muslims and find out what living “with islam”* – as a Christian woman – really means!
* More “living *under* islam”…
Custos Custodum says
Hope she likes sharing, STD and everything.
When her owner decides it’s time for a trade-in, he will simply pronounce a talaq on her and move on.
Jordan can then become another embittered college crone trying to despoil the next generation of naive young minds.
No Muzzies Here says
She is suffering from a serious delusion. Proof: “the beauty I saw in Islam.” It’s really unfortunate that she wrote a book to declare her love for the violent ideology that mandates warfare against and the subjugation of unbelievers.
It may mislead people into thinking that Islam and Christianity are equivalent.
esther says
Any American out there—-who wants to know what muslims are taught
——find an intelligent adult muslim—–and SAY YOU ARE A JEW—–
you will discover the Islamic take on Christianity and christians. Find a few more muslims—
and BE A CHRISTIAN—–you will discover the Islamic take on Judaism. If you introduce
HINDU ——either as a Non hindu or a Hindu, you will learn more about just what HINDUS are
and Hinduism is—–as per the mosque
mike9a says
One day this two-cells brain will be wife and mother, hm, amoebas have right to continue their species survival …what a sad story for human progress on planet earth
Westman says
What was it that King Faisal said to T.E. Lawrence in Lawrence Of Arabia? Ah, yes: “I think you are another of these desert-Ioving English. No Arab loves the desert. We love water and green trees. There is nothing in the desert.”
I think Jordan Denari may be another of those Islam-loving Christians, isolated from reality, like Pope Francis.
Still, one must admit that the Qur’an has the power to turn an adult into a dolt.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Good quote.
They hate the desert, and hate us for having places that aren’t deserts.
gravenimage says
Muslims are just as savage who live in lush places, though–it is the ideology more than the locale.
Kay says
Ignorant and foolish, but aware of neither.
Her comparing the sanctified Host to Mohammeden prayer verges on blasphemy—— or perhaps just confirms how off target her feelings are.
StellaSaidSo says
‘…Interfaith dialogue is “a walk together toward truth”…’
‘Interfaith dialogue’ is being led blindfold up the garden path toward the edge of a cliff.
mortimer says
Stella, interfaith dialogue with Muslims is DHIMMI THEOLOGY.
StellaSaidSo says
Exactly. What did you think I meant?
Hugo Hackenbush says
What’s that term I’m looking for? Was applied early in the 20th century by someone named “Lenin”. Oh yes!: “USEFUL IDIOT”.
gravenimage says
Spot on.
CRUSADER says
>>
“Oh, I’m a Dhimmi!
And I don’t even know it yet!”
<<
mortimer says
Can some put the quote quote from Fr. Henri Boulad into the hands of Duffner?
“Islamism (political Islam) is not a caricature, nor a counterfeit, nor a heresy, nor a fringe or atypical phenomenon versus classical, orthodox, Sunnite Islam.
To the contrary, I think Islamism is naked Islam, Islam without a mask and without paint, Islam perfectly consistent and true to itself, an Islam that has the courage and lucidity to go all the way to its ultimate conclusions and final implications.
Islamism is Islam in all its logic and in all its rigour. Islamism is present in Islam as the chick is present in the egg, as the fruit is present in the flower and as the tree is present in the seed.
But what is Islamism?
Islamism is political Islam, the bearer of a project for a model society and whose aim is to establish a theocratic state based on Sharia, the only legitimate law—since it is divine—since it was revealed and enshrined in the Koran and Sunna—it’s a law that applies to everything.
Here is an all-inclusive and all-encompassing project, one that is total, totalizing and totalitarian.”
Noel says
As far as I’m concerned, Islamist and Islamism are non-existent words. If a Muslim wants to chop off heads and stab people then he is a Devout Muslim.
Tjhawk says
I’m sure she studied behind walls and gates while in Jordan. Then she went to living quarters that were behind walls, gates, and in the very best of neighborhoods. She only encountered people whose only reason for having her around was to expertly feed her the ? she writes about in her book. And she thinks she came up with these ideas by herself.
Then for the “authentic” experience she was taken to the souk where she was treated with such unctuous deference that she couldn’t believe how wonderful the local merchants were. Most normal people feel like they need to shower off the oil and mendacity after this experience, but I’m sure she was taken in by it all.
I’m amazed how some people can see the world without really seeing anything at all. Maybe her education rendered her incapable of learning.
LeftisruiningCanada says
What you say is quite likely.
They know how to put on a show, especially for the easy white women.
Bill says
Perhaps she will be allowed to deliver a copy of her book to the “Girl of Enghelab Street’, you know, to help with that girl’s re-education about the splendor that is Islam.
One reads about that brave women in Iran and in turn looks at this vapid intellectual lightweight ensconced in her perfect little Georgetown bubble, and know that there is nothing that will ever wake Ms. Duffner from her slumbers.
Richie says
If you love the Quran then either you are NOT a Christian or a typical ignorant leftist
gravenimage says
I wonder if she is able to grasp what it says? I’ve known some people–even at university–who just sort of let older or more complex texts wash over them, without understanding any of its content. I couldn’t beleive it at first–but then found it was pretty common.
Richie says
I wonder if Muslims have ever commented at how naive and easily manipulated western leftists are? All a Muslim need to is cry islamophobia, and leftists will line up and defend them, and be willing to be used as tools of propaganda.
People like this woman may be putting her life at risk- more than one westerner was murdered by Jihadists were western leftists who traveled to the middle east, beleivng their own propaganda that Islam was about love
gravenimage says
+1
Billy Chickens says
The priest is right. Never trust a Muslim and carry a gun.
Jason Klingor says
THE MISERY OF ISLAM by Jaya Gopal
https://bpeinfo.files.wordpress.com/2012/01/the-misery-of-islam-16-pages.pdf
Karen says
““Despite the fact that they lived among Muslims — who are the vast majority of the population in Jordan — my Christian host family bought into these Christian TV channels’ negative portrayals of Islam,” notes Jordan Denari Duffner…”
Yes, what could an eye-witness and actual 2nd class citizen of Jordan possibly know? Did she ever ask any hard questions about how religious minorities are treated in Jordan? Did she make any attempt to understand their experience, or the origins of the attitudes what “hurt” her so deeply? No, probably not.
Also, not very nice, and perhaps rather dangerous to reveal details about her host family’s attitudes.
samdav7 says
Please consider history !
Jordan was a total Christian land that was occupied by barbarian Muslims !
Karen says
And sadly, Christians are now a persecuted minority in Jordan. I wonder if Queen Noor, an American who converted from Christianity to Islam so she could marry the King of Jordan has ever done anything to help the religious minorities in Jordan.
gravenimage says
Karen, here’s a load of fawning dhimmitude:
“Jordan’s Queen Visits Chicago”
http://myocn.net/jordans-queen-visits-chicago/
Karen says
graven, that’s interesting. I had been unaware of the elevated Dhimmi status the Orthodox have in Jordan. Well, favor is being granted them by their great Sharia overlords; this is what passes for tolerance in the Islamic world. So let’s hope no one gets ticked off and ruins that deal. So, life is good in Jordan if you are Greek Orthodox, or Roman Catholic. But, according to Open Doors, if you convert from Islam to Christianity, look out. Sad.
Learning islam says
Allah SATAN? Islam Exposed? (usama Dakdok -www.thestraightway.org.) / Jay Boo
Allah (moon god) is satan his hateful message. Jesus is not God is ok for muslims to say. God –Father, Son and Holy Spirit
Christians and non -Muslims cannot say allah is satan in muslims countries. Muslim will kill you
• The description of allah and description of satan.
• The acts of allah and the acts of satan
• The revealation of allah and revealation of satan
• The laws of allah and the laws of satan
Osjodo to adam : mo inserted greek word in the Q. Bible does not say , worship adam
muslims top priority is to please Allah”. The problem is that Allah was revealed to Muhammad, a pedophile, a thief and a murderer. Therefore Allah has no legitimacy.
Muhammad receive the revelation from satan .
The Qur’an’s Deception Passages:
According to the Bible, Allah is Satan.
Qur’an 1:1 indicates that Muslims worship the god of this world who is Satan who is known as the best deceiver and who leads people astray.
Let us look at what both the Bible and the Qur’an say to prove this point.
Qur’an 1:1 states that Allah is the god (lord) of this world:
The praise be to Allah, the lord of the worlds. Allah is Satan as it is written throughout the Qur’an. The Bible states in 2 Corinthians 4:4 that the god of this world is Satan: In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.
Allah got 99 names one of them is “Proud. Allah does not love proud, that means allah hate himself. Q59.23, Q16.23
• Satan becomes proud Q 2.34
Allah is not God because Allah is proud. Qur’an 59:23 states: He is Allah. There is no god except him… the proud.
• But the God of the Bible is meek and lowly in heart. Matthew 11:29 states: Take my yoke upon you, and learn of me; for I am meek and lowly in heart….
➤ Muslims are very (((proud))) to be a Muslim!
● “Truly Allah knows what they hide and what they manifest; surely Allah DOES NOT love the (((proud))).” (Qur’an 16:23)
● “He who has in his heart the weight of a mustard seed of (((pride))) SHALL NOT enter Paradise.” (Sahih Muslim Book 1, Hadith 166)
● “Allah the Almighty said: → (((Pride))) ← is my cloak and greatness is my garment, so whoever competes with me regarding these two will be thrown into the Hell-Fire.” (Sunan Abu Dawud 4090)
● “Is there not in Hell an abode for the (((proud)))? (Qur’an 39:60)
● “So enter the gates of Hell, to abide therein. Evil indeed is the dwelling-place of the (((proud))).” (Qur’an 16:29)
Q 3.54 , 8:30. Both verses in Qur’an 3:54 and 8:30 state that Allah is the best deceiver: (islamist in the west falsly translate planner)
And they deceived, and Allah deceived. And Allah is the best deceiver. What does the Bible say about this? Revelation 20:10 tells us: And the devil that deceived them…
Quran 3:54) –
Literal: And they cheated/deceived and God cheated/deceived, and God (is) the best (of) the cheaters/deceivers
(Quran 8:30) –
Literal: And when those who disbelieved deceive/scheme at you to affix/affirm you, or kill you, or bring you out, and they scheme/deceive , and Allah deceives/schemes and Allah (is) best (of) the deceivers/schemers.
( Quran 7:99 ) –
Literal: Did they secure God’s scheme/deceit ? So no(one) trusts God’s scheme/deceit except the nation the losers
Killer allah: Surah 8:17 Those that the Muslims killed were not really killed by them. It was Allah who did the killing. (Moslems believe all that Hateful? shame on you followers of Satan).
Islam calls for eternal war against all non-Muslims “until all religion is with Allah.” {Sura 8:39}
CRUSADER says
you don’t say?
really?
Anne says
After living in US Sunni neighborhood for 6 months, I finally began to see things for what they were.
Honeymoon over. But I am so glad that I stayed a few more years.
The first 6 months were hard on my Christian faith. I thought, “They seem so loving. Their love and hospitality is amazing! My Christian friends don’t have time for me.”
They painted a picture of Islam, which was their duty by Islam, of a faith that is noble and good.
But, finally, one by one, relationships hit the tipping point.
Some friendships grew deep enough that the desire to truly share life with a friend had to overcome the requirement to display a perfect Islam.
The first was a friend that shared about the abuse in her family. Her portrayal went straight from (first 6 months) “We are the perfect family” to “It is so bad, he is abusing my girls and doesn’t work. He claims to be sick, but smokes doesn’t support us.”
The very strange thing was that there wasn’t any shame in changing her tune. She didn’t apologize saying, “sorry to have misled you”.
It is one of the ways that our Western minds have no ability to comprehend the thinking of Taqqiya and the fake Islam that must be presented.
I could share much more, but when certain friends began to open up to me, it did not mean that they were now always honest with me.
I am a Christian and the Christians that I knew were serving Muslims with all their hearts, knowing that they were being lied to. That is the heart of being a Christian, doing the right thing.
This article and conversations that I have with friends like her sadden me.
I am tired of the assumption that knowing what Islam is in TRUTH is equated with hating Islam. It it quite the opposite.
Keep that in mind when talking to your friends like this girl.
PEOPLE NEED TO HEAR THAT YOU ARE CONCERNED ABOUT MUSLIMS.
THAT IS WHY YOU SPEAK OUT ABOUT ISLAM.
CT says
Thank you for a great comment. I also hold no hatred for Muslims, just for the ideology that tells them women are to be beaten, apostates and gays are to be killed, no questioning of their religion is allowed, etc. Mind viruses of the worst order, those. DUMP THE HADITH and let people worship God according to their own consciences.
gravenimage says
The Qur’an is mostly as bad as the Hadith–and then, there is the ugly model of the “Prophet”.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Great post Anne.
“They painted a picture of Islam, which was their duty by Islam, of a faith that is noble and good.”
That’s exactly what happens, and it can take many people in if, unlike you, they don’t stick around long enough to see through it
“It is one of the ways that our Western minds have no ability to comprehend the thinking of Taqqiya and the fake Islam that must be presented.”
Yep, it’s a different moral universe with few recognizable landmarks. Treating them, at least on a general political level, like we treat people from our own culture is what has enabled their ease of take over.
Glad you had the experience you did, and that you are safe!
Anne says
Thank you. This is encouraging to be on this forum, kindof a healing process after dealing with the hurts of the community that I lived in. No doubt about it, Islam helped my faith in Jesus solidify. Any doubts I had going in were dissolved. I am very thankful to be able to follow Jesus. I would never follow M.
LeftisruiningCanada says
🙂
I fully understand what you mean.
CRUSADER says
Anne, so, in turn, did YOU also:
“painted a picture of CHRISTIANITY, which was your duty as a Christian,
of a faith that is noble and good.” ???????
Would you have been condemned for that?
Anne says
If you’re asking did I share my Christian faith, yes. I was able to share my Faith freely. If you’re asking did I put up a front to make Christianity something it’s not, then my answer would be no, not intentionally. I was open about my beliefs and I didn’t have a different answer for a non-muslim than a Muslim
Learning islam says
Allah is hate spreader and Islamic text is doctrine of hate
Koran 40:35 “They [kafirs] who dispute the signs (verses) of Allah without authority having reached them are greatly hated by Allah and the believers (mohammden).” (Note: not just “hated”, but “greatly hated”.)
Allaha is hate spreader. Allah is evil
Q5.14 “And with those who say: “Lo! we are Christians,” We made a covenant, but they forgot a part of that whereof they were admonished. Therefor We have stirred up enmity and hatred among them till the Day of Resurrection, when Allah will inform them of their handiwork.”
Q5.14 * تفسير Tafsir al-Jalalayn
________________________________________{ وَمِنَ ٱلَّذِينَ قَالُواْ إِنَّا نَصَارَىٰ أَخَذْنَا مِيثَاقَهُمْ فَنَسُواْ حَظّاً مِّمَّا ذُكِرُواْ بِهِ فَأَغْرَيْنَا بَيْنَهُمُ ٱلْعَدَاوَةَ وَٱلْبَغْضَآءَ إِلَىٰ يَوْمِ ٱلْقِيَامَةِ وَسَوْفَ يُنَبِّئُهُمُ ٱللَّهُ بِمَا كَانُواْ يَصْنَعُونَ }
And with those who say ‘We are Christians’ (this is semantically connected to [what follows]) We made a covenant, just as We did with the Children of Israel, the Jews, and they have forgotten a portion of that they were reminded of, in the Gospel, pertaining to faith and other matters, and they [too] broke the covenant. So We have stirred up, We have caused, among them enmity and hatred until the Day of Resurrection, on account of their schisms and differing whims, each sect charging the other with unbelief; and God will assuredly tell them, in the Hereafter, of what they wrought, and requite them for this
Allah mislead 13.17 .Allah is a misleader.
Qur’an:4:88 states: And whomever Allah leads astray, so you will not find for him a way.
But the God of the Bible is a true leader. See Proverb 3:5-6.
Qur’an 35:8 states that Allah leads people astray:
So surely Allah leads astray whom he wills and guides whom he wills. Does God lead people astray? No. Then who does the Bible say wants to lead people astray and keep them from having eternal life through Jesus Christ?
Satan leads people astray. 1 Peter 5:8 tells us that Satan walks about as a roaring lion seeking whom he may devour, and Revelation 12:9 states: The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray…
schemer , Allah is a schemer. Qur’an 68:45 states:
…surely my scheme is firm. Also Qur’an 86:16 states: and I am scheming a scheme.
Allah is wrathful. Qur’an 2:59 states: So those who were unjust changed the saying to what had not been said to them, so we sent down on those unjust a wrath from the heaven because they were transgressors.
Satan brings wrath
See also Qur’an 7:162.
Allah is abominable. Qur’an 10:100 states:
And it was not for a soul to believe except by Allah’s permission, and he will lay the uncleanness on those who will not understand…
Allah is a seducer. Qur’an 11:34 states: And my advice will not profit you, if I desire to advise you, if Allah was desiring to seduce you….
Allah is a seditionist (subversive/rebellion). Qur’an 25:20 states: and we made some of you to be a sedition to some others…
Qur’an 38:85 and 11:119 both state that Allah desires to fill hell with people:
38:85…surely I will fill hell from you and from those who followed you from among them together. 11.119 …“I will surely fill hell with the jinn and the people together.”
What does the Bible say about people? God wants us to be with Him in heaven. He even sent His Son, Jesus, to die on the cross to pay for our sins so that people can have a way to live eternally in heaven with Him. He does not want any to perish. John 3:16 states:
For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life
The Word Miim-Kaf-Ra is constantly used when referring to Allah
Miim-Kaf-Ra = “To practice deceit or guile or circumvention, practice evasion or illusion, to plot, to exercise art or craft or cunning, act with policy, practice stratagem.”
Read more at http://www.deonvsearth.com/who-is-allah-evidence-discovered-god-of-islam-satan-proof/#f5EfYtEbgec3Mvw8.99
NOT the same — We also find that because ‘Allah’ is a deceiver, this is contradictory to all of his other traits.
Thus presenting multiple unanswered questions regarding the validity of his deity:
Thus presenting multiple unanswered questions regarding the validity of his deity:
Questions:
1.How could a Loving God Plan Evil against mere mortals?
2.How could a Merciful God, Trick and Deceive mankind?
3.How could a God JUDGE the earth for Evil If he himself displays signs of Evil?
The very fact that Allah is a Deceiver. Allah omits the passages where he is said to be Loving, Merciful, and Forgiving.
image: http://deonvsearth.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/10/compare-checklist-300×225.jpg
compare-checklistIf Allah says that he is loving & merciful,
how can we believe Allah if he is also Deceptive?
Allah = Deceiver ( Qur’an 3:54 )
So now that we can clearly see that the two are NOT the same, However we must now analyze who Allah really is.
How?
By taking his ROOT characteristic (Deception) and finding the biblical parallels.
Who is Allah?
the Islamic god is called “The Greatest Deceiver” ( Qur’an 3:54 )
The Bible too also mentions the GREAT Deceiver…
(Rev 19:20) And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he Deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
The ONE trait that is truthful about Allah is also congruent to the beast; also known as the Biblical Satan.
Read more at http://www.deonvsearth.com/who-is-allah-evidence-discovered-god-of-islam-satan-proof/#f5EfYtEbgec3Mvw8.99
Answering Islam – Jesus is GOD
· 16 May 2013 ·
Learning islam says
Satan in the bible matches the Allah in Quran & hadiths so well.
1) Satan was the most glorious creature God ever made. (Ezekiel 28:12) Allah was the most glorious creature. (Quran 11:73)
2) Satan is an angel. (job 1:6, 38:7) Angel Jibril always spoke in the name of Allah (Quran 2:97, bukhari 12-1.3)
3) Angels are mighty. (1 kings 19:35, Isaiah 37:36) Allah is mighty. (Quran 3…:6, 4:158, 9:40, 48:7, 59:23)
4) angels do not procreate. (Matthew 22:28-29) Allah Jason no son, he does not procreate. (Quran 18:4-6, 19:35-36)
5)Satan was called a morning star. ( Isaiah 14:12)
Allah was called a morning star, the lord of serius, the mighty star of pagan Arabs.(Quran 53:49)
6)Satan was the model of perfection. (Ezekiel 28:12)
Allah is perfect. (Quran 59:23, 62:1)
7)Satan is full of wisdom. (Ezekiel 28:12)
Allah is the wise. (Quran Satan31:27, 46:2, 57:1, 66:2)
8)Satan was perfect in beauty. (Ezekiel 28:12)
Allah is sublime. (Quran 4:34, 31:30, 42:4, 42:51)
9)Satan in Hebrew means “Accuser”. (job 1:7)
Allah accuses all non-muslims of being evil, vilest beasts. (Quran 8:12, 8:55, 9:5, 9:29……)
10) Allah is a common noun which means ‘god’ in Arabic.’god’ is a title, not a name.
Allah never revealed his name to Muhammad.
11) Satan is called many other names.
Allah has 99 names (attributes) in Islam tradition. (bukhari 3.894)
12) Satan is called the serpent. (genesis 3:1)
Allah lies in wait to kill non-muslims. (Quran 9:5)
13) Satan is called Dragon, the red dragon. (revelation 12:3)
Allah is a blood thirsty and corpse hungry monster. (Quran 8:12)
14) Satan is the devil. (Matthew 4:1)
Allah’s slip of tongue brought satanic verses of the Quran. (Quran 22:52, 53:19-22, tabari’s account)
15) Satan is the price of the world. (John 12:31, 14:30)
There is no Allah but Allah. (Quran 2:255, 3:2…)
16) Satan is the god of this age, the god who propagates his system of philosophy, humanism, materialism & sex. (2Corinthians 4:4)
Allah’s system – sharia law.
17) Satan is beelzebub, the lord of the flies, the price of demons. (Luke 11:15)
Allah fly both kills and heals. (bukhari 4.537, 7.673).
18)the lord of the flies, it is the title of a philistine god.
Palestine got its name from the philistine, the enemy of god’s chosen people Israel.
19) Satan mocked Jesus, “if you are the son of God”,… (Matthew 4:3-6)
Allah denies Jesus as son of God, his Quran refers to Jesus as son of Mary. (Quran 2:87)
20)Satan opposes God’s work. (zechariah 3)
Allah teaches a completely different Jesus from the bible. (Quran 4:15)
21)Satan hinder God’s servants. (1thessalonians 2)
Allah orders to kill & humiliate Christians & Jews.
22)Satan hinders the Gospel. (Matthew 13:2, Corinthians 4)
Allah denies Jesus’s deity, his death & his resurrection. (Quran 44:157, 19:35-36)
23)Satan ensnares the wicked. (2 timothy 2)
Allah reveals his message by terror. (Quran 17:59-60)
24)Satan deceives the nations. (1kings 22, revelation 16, 20)
Allah is the best deceiver. (Quran 43:54, 7:99)
25)Satan mosquerades himself as an an Angel of light. (2 Corinthians 11:14)
Allah is the light. (Quran 24:35)
26)Satan prowls around like a roaring lion looking for someone to devour. (1peter 5:8)
“wage war on non-muslims & kill them until they submit & the only religion is Islam”. (Quran 8:39)
27)Satan is the accuser of the brethren. (revelation 12)
Allah accuses Jesus & Christians of corrupting the bible through the Quran. (Quran 2:41-44,59,72-79,85, 101,140,146,159,174,176,213, 3:19,24,70-71,78-79,94,184, 4:44-47, 5:13-15,41-44, 6:91, 7:162, 41:45, 62:5-6)
28)Satan has the power of death. (Hebrews 2)
Allah has the power of death. (Quran 3:156, 7:158, 15: 23, 57:2)
29) the whole world is under the control of Satan. (1John 5:19)
Allah is the depressor & abuser, Allah has power over all things. (Quran 95-5, 59:23, 2:20, 66:8….)
THE REASON THE SON OF GOD APPEARED WAS TO DESTROY THE WORKS OF THE DEVIL. (1 John 3:8).
[Steve Parker]
“if Allah, frustrated over the Muslims’ failure to “kill the idolaters wherever you find them” (Qur’an 9:5, cf. 2:191, 4:89), decided to take matters into his own hands.”
So the “supreme Allah” is a man with a weapon who commits violent crime. Sounds like a perfect description of Mohammed.
This practice might change.
Muslim leadership can be fickle at times.
Muhammad
1 – Muhammad turned his back to peaceful verses.
2 – Muhammad turned his back to Mecca to pray toward Jerusalem, then to Mecca again.
3 – The only time Muhammad walked behind a woman is when he turned his backside to Allah to follow instead three lovely looking pagan fairy princesses as his deities of choice.
4 – Unfortunately he returned to Allah claiming the devil tricked him and somehow Allah magically believed the excuse.
Allah is easily duped.
CRUSADER says
Ah ha
De Doc says
I suppose anyone can hold the views that this Duffner does, provided they go about with their head perpetually buried in their arse.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Or someone elses 🙂
Tjhawk says
Yep, she’s a brown neck.
Walter Sieruk says
This poor confused girl in the above photograph must have had been terribly led astray. For a knowledgeable Christian cannot “love” or even “like” the Quran because many important the Nature of Jesus found in the Bible stands in strong contradiction to what the Quran teaches about the Nature of Jesus.
The way for a person to discover the truth concerning the nature of Jesus is found in the Bible verse Isaiah 8:20. This instructs “To the law of the testimony. If they do not speak according to the word, it is because there is no light in them.” [N.K.J.V.] In other words, if a religious teacher has teaching that are in contradiction to the Word, the Bible, then that teachers is a false teacher who teaches false doctrines. The Muslim clerics, as the imam and mullahs, teach and speak doctrines about God from the Quran .
As the Quran in 112 teaches “He is God alone: God is the eternal begetteth not…” Likewise, this religious book which is the entire foundation of and for Islam further teaches in 19:35. “It is not befitting to God that He should beget a son.” In great contrast the Bible teaches in John 1:14. “The Word was made flesh and dwelt among us, and we beheld His glory , the glory of the only begotten of the Father ,full of grace and truth.” Likewise John 3:16 teaches “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son… Then just a little further in verse 18 it is written about Jesus Who is “the only begotten Son of God. “ Other places in the Bible further teach that Jesus is the Son of God as in Matthew 16:15:16. Luke 1:35. John 3:36. First John 4:14. 15. 5:14,15. Moreover to be even more clear the Bible teaches that Jesus is the Son of God, Who is God the Father. As found in Matthew 3:16,17. First John 2:22,23. 4:14,15. Of course , it ,very much, needs to made even more specific . The Bible teaches that Jesus is also God the Son. As seen in Hebrew1:8 and First John 5:20. The imams and mullahs as well as the other apologists for Islam will try to “explain” this all away. As in they will try brush off all those Bible verse off by making the claim that the Bible had been corrupted, through time, by Christians and that’s why the Bible reads as it does. That claim they make actually underestimate the Power of God to protect and keep His Word safe and intact ,through time, and away from the corruption of men.
In conclusion ,with the above instruction of the way to find doctrinal truth in Isaiah 8:20 and in the light of the Bible verse provided it may be clearly seen, by all those who are willing to see, that Islam is in terrible doctrinal error and it is therefore a false religion, Proverbs 14:12. John 14:6.
In addition there is a Christian internet site which replies to the many claims made by the imams and mullahs as well as the other apologists for Islam. It’s http://www.answering-islam.org
Richie says
islam= the worship of Satan
Champ says
Indeed!
gravenimage says
“Christlam”
Cheer Bear Girl says
Muslims will use her and soon she’ll be oppressed like Christians in Muslim majority countries.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Agreed.
She will find no mercy with them, convert or not.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Oh, i think many would care.
But she is playing with an old and nasty fire, which is very likely to get her burned.
Prabh108 says
Maybe today’s moslem is tomorrow’s Hare Krsna.
May all enemies of India perish.
I HATE ISLAM, despite Sivananda’s glowing chapter on Islam. In Panjab we know persons of bengalay origin are weirdos. Bengali bastards collaborated with colonial criminals. I HATE BENGAL.
om shanti om
CRUSADER says
Perhaps the Bengals aren’t as good as the Panthers, Lions, and Jaguars….good point.
Manny says
She came back to Catholicism because of the beauty in the Koran? What a joke. She’s beyond a useful idiot. She’s a closet Muslim. In a few years she will come out with a Muslim conversion experience.
CRUSADER says
Pope Francis:
‘Fake news’ started with ‘crafty serpent’
http://video.foxnews.com/v/5718523118001/
jason callio says
some people are just so damn easy to brainwash
DFD says
Referring to the picture in this thread: https://www.jihadwatch.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/im-christian-and-i-love-the-quran.jpg
I knew it, I knew it!
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Call David Icke! Here is definite, irrefutable, photographic proof that we are invaded by aliens from outer space.
Well, that girl can’t be from earth, can she?
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Richard says
OK where does she think the Koran came from?
The author of the Koran says it is the literal word of God. If you believe that then you are a Muslim. If not then the Koran was written by a liar or a madman there is not other choice. How can you respect that.
NickD says
So much hate and fear in these comments. Go make a Muslim friend and then maybe you’ll understand where she’s coming from.
JawsV says
Islam is the hate. Islam is feared as its a mass-murder ideology. Islam deserves to be hated. The last thing I ever want to know is a Muslim. I already know where Muslims are coming from. Remember 9/11? And all of the subsequent mass-murdering Jihads? The adherents are demented and hoodwinked fools. Why in the heck would I want to know demented and hoodwinked fools?
So much ignorance and idiocy in your comment. Take Islam and shove it.
NickD says
Muslims are less dangerous than the rest of the country.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/us/tally-of-attacks-in-us-challenges-perceptions-of-top-terror-threat.html?_r=0
Please inform yourself rather than calling me ignorant.
StellaSaidSo says
The New York Times is less credible than any other source in the rest of the country.
Please inform yourself rather than nurturing your ignorance.
JawsV says
We’re not a Muslim country you moron. Therefore any “comparison” is useless. You inform yourself. All Muslims are potential Jihadists. All Muslims are potentially dangerous. When you let in Muslims/Islam you let in Jihad. Islamic Jihad. Perhaps you’ve noticed???
LeftisruiningCanada says
A nice muslim friend or two is irrelevant to the issue of islamic evil.
Champ says
I already have friends whom I TRUST. Never trust a muslim. Period.
JawsV says
Agree, Champ. Anyone who follows Islam isn’t right (in the head).
Champ says
Exactly, JawsV!
StellaSaidSo says
I’m guessing NickD has not read the Koran.
The Koran forbids Muslims from being ‘friends’ with kuffar, but the pretence of friendship is OK if it advantages Islam.
Any Muslim who genuinely befriends a non-Muslim is not, according to the Koran, a genuine Muslim.
There are many Muslims who are what we would consider to be ‘good people’, but they are good people in spite of Islam, not because of it.
JawsV says
Quran 5:51.
gravenimage says
NickD wrote:
So much hate and fear in these comments.
………………………….
Why would Infidels be concerned over those 32,000+ Jihad terror attacks? Bad dhimmis!
More:
Go make a Muslim friend and then maybe you’ll understand where she’s coming from.
………………………….
I’ve had Muslims admit that women are worth half of what men are, that they hate Jews and want to wipe them out, and that “Jesus” is coming back in the last days to kill Christians. Is this the sort of thing you had in mind?
More:
Muslims are less dangerous than the rest of the country.
https://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/25/us/tally-of-attacks-in-us-challenges-perceptions-of-top-terror-threat.html?_r=0
………………………….
Actually, Muslims are *many times* more violent than Westerners.
This, from the article NickD cites:
“But the breakdown of extremist ideologies behind those attacks may come as a surprise. Since Sept. 11, 2001, nearly twice as many people have been killed by white supremacists, antigovernment fanatics and other non-Muslim extremists than by radical Muslims: 48 have been killed by extremists who are not Muslim, including the recent mass killing in Charleston, S.C., compared with 26 by self-proclaimed jihadists, according to a count by New America, a Washington research center.”
Let’s take those numbers at face value. Almost twice as many people have been killed by Infidel terrorists as Muslim ones–fine.
Does NickD hope we have forgotten that Muslims make up less than 1% of the population?
Let’s see–math is not my strong suit, but I believe that means that Muslims are *fifty times* more likely to murder people in ideological terror attacks than are Infidels in the United States. Doesn’t NickD realize that far from exonerating the violence of Muslims, it just confirms it in the most dramatic manner? What could be more damning than the very statistics he cites?
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Please inform yourself rather than calling me ignorant.
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Well, if not ignorant, then dishonest.
Indiana Tom says
Useful idiot.
that merely a “strand of hair is what divides” Christians and Muslims .
Islam is not compatible with Christianity. Please read the book Wholly Different: Why I Chose Biblical Values Over Islamic Values. Nonie Darwish. Darwish is an Egyptian-American, former-Muslim human rights activist who is frustrated with mainstream America’s talk of tolerance and assimilation. In Wholly Different, Darwish sets non-Muslims straight about tenets of Islam that are incompatible with free society.
JawsV says
I read “Wholly Different” a few months ago. It’s excellent. I couldn’t put it down. Darwish knows what she’s talking about. Right — it’s not a “strand of hair.” That’s ridiculous. In fact Christianity and Islam are opposites. There’s nothing in common. In a nutshell: Christianity, good. Islam, bad. That’s the truth.
LeftisruiningCanada says
She’s an author worth reading for sure.
gravenimage says
Yes–Nonie Darwish knows her stuff. A very brave lady.
Champ says
What a dumb & foolish broad …
What the hell is wrong with her?!
I just don’t get it.
LeftisruiningCanada says
I’m a Christian, and i too love the koran.
The koran makes it very easy to show people how evil mohammad and islam are.
It is fantastic.
gravenimage says
🙂
Arthur says
I have to admit, reading the Koran made me a more aware and observant Christian.
It wasn’t until I studied the Koran that I realized some people really believe torture is OK. Some people really believe lying is a virtue. Some people really believe women are second class humans good only for sex. Some people really believe people are not created equal. Some people really believe strength is all that matters and the underdog should be kicked.
Then I realized how different Christianity stands in contrast to this natural, primitive order.
It’s hard to know white, if you don’t know black. It’s hard to know light if you don’t know dark. It’s hard to know good if you don’t know evil. Islam provides contrast to Christianity. Unfortunately, Duffner hasn’t seen the spots on her ‘pet’ leopard, so she keeps mistaking it for a house cat.
gravenimage says
+1
Lydia Church says
You can’t be a true Christian and love something like the quran!
That is an evil book, so they are saying they love evil, they love all the mandates to murder innocent civilians, and to oppress, etc. etc.
Such blind fools.
I am so tired of these appeasement queens, building bridges to the one world religion that will usher in the end of the world!
Guy Jones says
I don’t know, call me crazy, but, when it comes to listening to women talk about Islam, would I rather listen to a transparently self-aggrandizing, naive, willfully ignorant, virtue-signaling westerner who isn’t Muslim, or, would I rather listen to women who either were formerly Muslim, or, alternatively, who have lived among Muslims, e.g., Ayaan Hirsi Ali, Nonie Darwish, Wafa Sultan, Ani Cyrus, etc. I’ll take the latter.
There is always going to be morally bankrupt, attention-seeking, self-serving and gleeful shills for totalitarian ideologies, “useful idiots,” as Lenin aptly referred to them.
StellaSaidSo says
Indeed, the only ‘Muslim’ whose word can be trusted is an ex-Muslim.
Singh the Sikh says
Dufner is a snowflake who views islam through rose-tinted glasses. Her host family knows Muslims better than this naive tourist. ‘Never trust a Mulism’ is a well-founded fear based on centuries of Islamic oppression and brutality. You will hear ‘never trust a Muslim’ from every group that has suffered at the hands of Muslims – Sikhs and Hindus included. You can never know when your Muslim next-door-neighbour will become your killer. Westerners are now finding out they are living next to jihadist bombers. Dufner is an intellectual lightweight. Her book is based on wishful thinking, not academic rigour and critical analysis. Her book is worthless garbage.
dumbledoresasrmy says
Singh
thank you for teling it like it is.
“You can never know when your Muslim next-door-neighbour will become your killer.”
Precisely. Christians in Syria and Iraq discovered that, very painfully, just recently. It wasn’t just Islamic State jihadis that were their persecutors; worse than that were the *ordinary* ruck of Muslims, among whom they had thought they were living peacefully, who *ratted them out* to Islamic State as soon as Islamic State came into town … and who, after the Christians had fled, rushed with alacrity to seize the Christians’ abandoned homes, businesses, lands and possessions…
Armenian Christians and Greek Christians in the early 20th century in the Ottoman Empire discovered it; many of them too late, for they were *murdered*, gleefully murdered, ritualistically murdered, by people who they had thought were ‘good’ Muslims, Muslims who would not mistreat them as *other* Muslims did routinely and obviously do.
The excuse one encounters on ‘social media’, from so many eager and naive western Defenders of Islam, who have ‘bought’ the soft soap, the smiles and wiles of Muslim flatterers, that “all the Muslims I know are such niiiiice people” and that therefore Islam and the Ummah can’t possibly be dangerous, is rubbish. As you say, lots of horrified Westerners are ‘finding out they are living next to jihadist bombers’… and *some* of those bombers/ plotters are obviously ‘wrong’ un’s but lots are NOT, lots were very good at camouflaging themselves and bamboozling their kuffar neighbours and workmates by projecting ‘nice’.
gravenimage says
All grimly true. Brigitte Gabrielle also found out the same thing.
Granddaddy says
Muslims don’t revere Jesus, they revere a Muslim prophet they call Isa who didn’t die on the cross (Q 4:157) and isn’t the son of God (Q 17:111), and then they claim that he and Jesus are the same person. On top of that, they have Mary as the sister of Aaron (Q 19:27-28), which would make her about 1500 years old when she gave birth to Jesus. The only reason anyone would believe it is if they are totally ignorant of history or willing to be deceived. It’s just a lot of Muslim taqiyya, but because it’s written in the Quran (references to Isa) and some ignorant moron interfaith preacher tells them that the Muslims believe in Jesus, every Christian who can’t bother to pick up the Quran and actually read what it says thinks Muslims believe in Jesus the Son of God. Muslims despise Christians, which anyone can confirm simply by reading the Quran. It’s really difficult to believe sometimes how ignorant and gullible so many otherwise intelligent people can be.
As for Duffner, she’s just trying to sell her book. She doesn’t appear to be a liar, just a fool.
David Hearnshaw says
She should be more appropriately called ‘Duffer’!
Bazooka Joe says
Well lets see if we can determine the truth about Jordan Denari Duffner. It seems as if she is either the most ignorant (maybe brainwashed) person on the face of God’s green planet; or the most corrupt person in regards to revealing and proclaiming the truths about Islam. For those of us in the know, we know what is and what isn’t. Islam is Hate. Islam isn’t the Religion of Peace. (It could be the Religion of Pieces however, when you consider all of the cruel, brutal savagery, beheading executions and barbaric bombings.)
Now what is she, Jordan that is, ignorant or corrupt? Is she the product or victim of good ole (educational system) American liberalism brainwashing and programming, or could she actually be a paid agent of Jihad. Who knows, maybe even a closet “Radical” Muslim who is a shadow jihadist, working through the Islamic age old tactic of Taqiyya, which under Islamic Sharia Law, permits Muslims to lie to their infidel enemies. I guess only her Sharia Hair Dresser would know for sure.
I’m kind of thinking that she would have fit in well somewhere in the Obama Administration. Maybe as the Czar of Islamic Relations Education, and perhaps as a high ranking member of the Obama’s Justice Department, maybe even a spot in the F.B.I. (Someone told me btw, and I wondered if it is true, that the F.B.I. really stands for Forget ‘Bout Integrity? Does anyone know for sure? LOL.)
LeftisruiningCanada says
There are plenty of young wide eyed girls like her that go out to Israel, Jordan etc, and are not willing to think that anybody is bad….apart from the Israelis.
The muslim arabs are very good at appealing to ones emotions, a thing which young wide eyed girls are particularly vulnerable to.
Not that the guys are any different of course.
Jerry Zavage says
Does Denari Duffner love the original “hate speech” Koran or the new Jordanian King Abdullah version which forbids the inclusion of the Jihadist hate verses in preaching Islam?
Alice says
I think she must not have read the Bible OR the Qur’an.
Alice says
I think she must have read neither the Bible NOR
the Qur’an. (to clarify what I stated above.)
Dustin Koellhoffer says
Where in the Bible did Jesus say to love Satan?
gravenimage says
Jordan Denari Duffner in Islamic Wonderland
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More from this ludicrously willful naif. Thank you Andrew Harrod.
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“Despite the fact that they lived among Muslims — who are the vast majority of the population in Jordan — my Christian host family bought into these Christian TV channels’ negative portrayals of Islam,” notes Jordan Denari Duffner’s new book.
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Just grotesque that she dismisses out of hand the idea that Muslims are persecuting Christians in Jordan, and thinks instead this comes from “Christian TV channels”:
https://www.opendoorsusa.org/christian-persecution/world-watch-list/jordan/
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Duffner’s book accordingly opens with a detailed description of her reverential 2016 visit to the Umm Haram mosque in Cyprus, named after a foster aunt of Islam’s seventh-century prophet Muhammad…
The Umm Haram mosque, for example, commemorates this woman’s death when she fell from a horse during a 649 Islamic raid upon Cyprus at the beginning of this island’s long struggles against ravaging Islamic invaders. Allahu Akbar, meanwhile, signifies that the supposed Islamic faith of Allah is greater than any other belief system; hence jihadists use this phrase as a war cry.
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Why am I not surprised? And Cyprus suffers under the Islamic invasion today. Duffner appearently has not noticed that:
https://voiceofthepersecuted.wordpress.com/2013/06/30/christianity-in-peril-in-turkish-cyprus/
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Duffner therefore notes Catholic Church teaching that interfaith dialogue is a “walk together towards truth” and highlights Father Christian Chergé, a rather unsettling example of ecumenism portrayed in the acclaimed film Of Gods and Men. This French priest lived much of his life in Algeria and heroically continued his Christian witness in dialogue with friendly Muslims even as Algeria faced a brutal jihadist insurgency throughout the 1990s. Murdered by jihadists in 1996, he and 18 other Catholic clerics killed in Algeria’s bloodbath…
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Uh–hasn’t she noticed that this lovely bit of interfaith dialogue ended with Musims savagery murdering this peaceful Priest? I guess not…