What cooperation? It has all been a sham for years.
“Pakistan suspends military, intel cooperation with US,” Daily Times, January 10, 2018:
ISLAMABAD: Defence Minister Khurram Dastgir Khan Tuesday disclosed that Pakistan has suspended defence and intelligence cooperation with the United States amid growing tensions over US suspension of military aid to Pakistan.
US officials have said in a series of recent statements that almost all security assistance to Pakistan has been suspended following President Donald Trump’s Tweet on January 1, in which he had alleged that Pakistan “gives safe haven to the terrorists we hunt in Afghanistan, with little help.”
He also wrote, “United States has foolishly given Pakistan more than 33 billion dollars in aid over the last 15 years, and they have given us nothing but lies & deceit, thinking of our leaders as fools.”
Pakistani leaders had earlier showed restraint despite allegations by the American leaders and aid suspension but the defence minister’s statement could be seen an indication of growing tension.
“You see the facilities that we have extended to them (Americans) are still in operation. We have not suspended them. But there is also a wide field of intelligence cooperation and defence cooperation which we have suspended,” Dastagir said at a Public Talk on “Contours of Security Environment of Pakistan”, organised by the government-run Institute of Strategic Studies Islamabad (ISSI) under its Distinguished Lecture Series.
An US embassy spokesman did not confirm the defence minister’s statement.
“We have not been formally notified of any suspension,” he said a response to a query late Tuesday.
A press release issued by the ISSI did not mention the minister’s remarks on the suspension of the defence and intelligence cooperation; however, an audio clip of the minister is available who offered the comments during question-hour session.
The defence minister also said that the ground and air facilities to the US forces are still open.
Referring to the US suspension of Pakistan’s aid, Dastagir said, “The recent suspension of military aid by the US comes in the wake of a more grave suspension, which is suspension of the strategic dialogue for more than a year between the US and Pakistan,” according to the ISSI statement that was also posted on the ISSI’s website.
He also complained that the United States has not extended help to fence the porous border with Afghanistan to stop the cross-border movement of the militants.
“It is convenient to blame Pakistan for cross-border terrorism, where the US has not lifted a finger to help fence-up the border,” Dastgir said.
“Now all veils are off…It is time for a courteous yet ruthlessly candid dialogue between Pakistan and the United States,” he went on to say.
The US has long been alleging that Pakistan is “providing sanctuaries to the Afghan Taliban and the Haqqani Network,” which are blamed for attacks on the US-led foreign and Afghan forces.
The US leaders have been pressing Pakistan to take action against the Afghan Taliban and the Haqqani Network but Dastagir said “Pakistan remains adamant that the Afghan war will not be fought on Pakistani soil.”…
The minister went on to say that what “we need to remember and fully internalise is that today’s Pakistan is a post Operation Zarb-e-Azb Pakistan – which is one of the largest anti-terror operations in the world.”
“The way forward is not through threats, notices or suspensions of supports. This distracts everyone from, the prize, which is sustainable peace in a democratic Afghanistan. While this remains on the highest agenda of Pakistan’s foreign policy, Pakistan remains adamant that the Afghan war will not be fought on Pakistani soil,” he said….
“The recent suspension of military aid by the US comes in the wake of a more grave suspension, which is suspension of the strategic dialogue for more than a year between the US and Pakistan. He ended his speech by stating that we need choose cooperation over castigation and the resilient democracy of Pakistan will continue to rise,” he said.
Earlier, Ambassador Khalid Mahmood, Chairman ISSI, in his remarks said unfortunately President Trump has blamed Pakistan for the United States’ failure to bring about peace in Afghanistan.
“President Trump’s outburst has invoked a huge frenzy, and his ill-considered approach toward Pakistan is being criticised within the US as well. As fate would have it, Pakistan’s geographical location dictates that its security environment is of vital importance to the entire region,” he said….
Andy says
We have been “played” as suckers by Pakistan for years.
Andy says
It is good that President Trump has finally “pulled the plug”.
Champ says
Indeed, Andy!
Hey and WWOD (what-would-Oprah-do) if she were president of the United States regarding islam and company? Brace yourself!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sun968sFoHU
gravenimage says
Just a week after 9/11, Oprah featured Muslims on her show.
And the victim’s families? Not so much…
Champ says
“Just a week after 9/11, Oprah featured Muslims on her show.”
Yes, thank you for reminding us of what Oprah did, Graven …shocking, but not surprising for a bleeding-heart liberal.
Without question, Oprah would be a disaster as president; perhaps worse than Obama *ever* was.
Champ says
Jay Boo, you must be kidding me!!! Honestly, I am absolutely *shocked* at your response!! …especially given your extensive knowledge of islam and the specific issues covered on JW regarding the complex facets of islam and how misogynistic the teachings of islam are.
Wow where to begin …
In the video Oprah has a guest who’s the perfect ‘poster child’ for why islam is a religion of peace, which of course it isn’t, and yet this is what is attempting to present in this video.
Jeez, watch the video AGAIN and hopefully your blinders will fall off …you are totally missing how Oprah is *misleading* the public in this video.
Champ says
small correction …”and yet this is what *Oprah* is attempting to present in this video.”
Infidel says
Believe me Americans… Oprah is a female ver of Obama.. another appeaser and another “ALL TALK AND NO WORK” it would be a total disaster if she becomes President.
Westman says
Good riddance to a taqiyya government. Now let’s provide all the intel needed by India to keep Pakistan contained.
gravenimage says
Hear, hear!
J D S says
I think we should just suspend Pakistan..period!
Andy says
Pakistan’s Hidden Shame (Full Documentary) – Real Stories
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NMp2wm0VMUs
Andy says
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QFA6op8C8vU
DDMisra says
Too true!
Don McKellar says
Probably the most hollow response any country ever made to the United States. Shaking that empty fist. The pitch black humor of Islam shows again.
Has Trump removed every last penny from them yet? When does that happen? What will they do then?
The ones harmed by this will be them as they have lost a lot of soldier pay and bribe money to their fellow moslems who are a little more pious than they are — and there’s going to be trouble as the giant Paskistan military (who basically fights nobody) is in for the fight of their lives.
DDMisra says
Well said! Let us hope that President Trump keeps his promise of cutting aid!
gravenimage says
Pakistan suspends military, intel cooperation with US
What cooperation? It has all been a sham for years.
……………………..
Yes, it is–and President Trump finally called them on it. I hope he follows through on cutting ‘Jizya’ to this Jihad terrorist state.
DDMisra says
gravenimage is right!
StellaSaidSo says
Muslim motto, wherever they are –
GIMME GIMME GIMME!
It’s never enough. So please, let’s ALL stop wasting our hard-earned resources on these whining losers. There are far more deserving causes.
DDMisra says
Better late than never!
Jayell says
“It is convenient to blame Pakistan for cross-border terrorism, where the US has not lifted a finger to help fence-up the border,” Dastgir said……
Am I missing something here? Which border are we talking about here, and on whose territory? Pakistan’s? So isn’t fencing-up their border THEIR job? If my neighbour across the road demanded that I help to repair his garden gate I’d give him an appropriate reply that might not be printable here. I’m sure Mr. Trump wouldn’t dream of resorting to Anglo-Saxon vocabulary, but I think a similar response to our Pakistani friends wouldn’t be out of place. In any case, why are the Pakistanis making a fuss on this point? Didn’t they recently boast to everyone that they are bravely at the forefront of the fight against terror? So why do they need any input from the Great Satan (the USA – apparently!)?
DDMisra says
Good question.
Tjhawk says
They’re suspending military and intel cooperation!! How could anyone tell? The only difference we’ll notice is we’ll now have a few billion extra bucks to spend as we see fit.
I wonder if anybody could come up with a figure on how much we’ve spent bombing empty mud huts where the the targets, by miraculous coincidence, cleared out just before the bombs fell. These miracles happened on a regular basis. Then every 6 months or so we’d get info. To take out or capture a 3rd or 4th level, no name, low value scumbag. Gee Thanks.
The money we’ve spent.? Makes me sick.
Off Topic:
Does anybody know how to put a circle and red slash? on this emoji? ?
gravenimage says
I’m afraid you can’t put an emoji on top of another, because they are opaque–i.e., a red slash emoji over a mosque emoji would just be a red slash.
I was hoping to find you a ready made “no mosque” emoji, but have had no luck so far. Sorry.
mike9a says
Perhaps these two could help?
http://temp.9aic.com/jw1.svg
http://temp.9aic.com/jw2.svg
Tjhawk says
Cool
Emilie Green says
“Pakistan suspends military, intel cooperation with US”
How will we be able to tell the difference?
elee says
D@#n! Now who’s going to handle our weapon deliveries to the Haqqanis?
Bezelel says
“ISLAMABAD: Defence Minister Khurram Dastgir Khan Tuesday disclosed that Pakistan has suspended defence and intelligence cooperation with the United States amid growing tensions over US suspension of military aid to Pakistan.”
Does that mean they are going to stop lying to us ?
Bodega says
Maybe it means they will stop talking to us and we won’t have to worry about the fact or fallacy, truth or fiction of what they have to say. Ha. That wouid not be too bad.
I am concerned that Norway and other EU countries will step in to replace our so-called aid to Pakistan. If they do, then we must pull out of the UN, period.
WESTPAC Spy says
Spot on. I, too, am greatly concerned the Scandinavian League of Soft Power Super Friends will fill in the vacuum we leave behind in Pakistan.
https://www.thelocal.se/20071213/9398
“Army castrates heraldic lion”
No, actually come to think about it, no I’m not.
Dapto says
I am after friday’s prayers Pakistan will show there true colours.
roberta says
“He also complained that the United States has not extended help to fence the porous border with Afghanistan to stop the cross-border movement of the militants.”’
I stopped there. This says enough. Just a bunch of hateful beggars.
Andy says
Trump should say to Pakistan: Good Riddance to Bad RUBBISH!!!
Georg says
Gee, without their help it will be impossible to find people like Osama bin Laden. Love the moral lesson the US takes on a daily basis from the scumpits of the earth.
mortimer says
It’s hard to know whether Pakistan is better at TAQIYYA than Iran.
I think Iran is a little bit better at TAQIYYA than Pakistan.
What is your opinion? Which country wins the TAQIYYA contest?
dumbledoresarmy says
Well then, America should end all ‘aid’ to and trade with Islamic Pakistan.
Further: CLOSE America’s gates against any Muslim from Pakistan.
Track down and evict from the USA all Muslims from Pakistan, currently on US soil, who do not posssess US citizenship: cancel their visas or their residency status – and this includes those who are present as ‘students’ – and give them the boot, back to ghastly Islamic Pakistan.
Identify and investigate, thoroughly, all Muslims from Pakistan, or of Pakistani Muslim parentage, who currently possess US citizenship, remembering the Pakistani muslim who – within a year of having obtained US citizenship – attempted to detonate a car bomb at Times Square in NYC on the eve of May Day; and also bearing in mind “David Headley*, son of a US socialite and a plausible Pakistani Mohammedan, and what *he* got up to (he was involved with the mass-murderous Mumbai jihad raid); might be an idea to *intern* all such persons, and if there is any doubt about the sincerity with which they swore their oath of allegiance when taking out citizenship… cancel their citizen status and send *them* back to Pakistan, also.
Time to place Islamic Pakistan in the same basket as Islamic Iran.. and non-Islamic but equally-hideous and dangerous North Korea.
And redirect the trade and development projects, etc, to *India*. That would be one in the eye for Pakistan…. and would send a useful message to the totalitarian oligarchs running China, as well.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Shows how committed they were to being allies in the first place doesn’t it.
MFritz says
Just let India handle Pakistan. End of story.
Matthieu Baudin says
How long before China slips in to fill the void?
Chand says
Not very long. Pakistan is gonna be a thorn for a long time.
R Russell says
China is already building a road following the silk route. Soon be ready for troop movements.
I remember when I was a child – a v long time ago listening to lectures on Bible prophesy which said China would play its part in the End Times. Didn’t see much evidence of how it could until I became aware of this road building.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-05-14/china-plans-new-silk-road-to-dominate-world-trade/8522682
We are in for interesting times
Rob Porter says
R Russell, So it mattered not what Trump decided re Pakistan, the road was already being built and anything he did would not stop it. However, it China steps in with aid to Pakistan just watch the left blame Trump for the road and Pakistan’s co-operation with China, but China will not stand for the deceit and misuse of aid that the U.S. endured. Trump was right and smart to decide this, and knowing Muslims as we now do, we can imagine their fury over an infidel telling them what utter liars and deceivers they are, and depriving them of jizya. Their childish temper tantrums are really quite comical. It’s a thing of beauty to behold!
LeftisruiningCanada says
Wouldn’t worry too much about that imho. It’s not exactly a high speed 10 lane highway direct to Europe’s back door. The railway link is interesting, but a lot more will have to go wrong before China starts moving the invasion force along it.
Gene says
The decree was retroactive to 1948.
Matthieu Baudin says
Mr Spy, they would indeed make strange bedfellows – The League of Northern Evangelical Castrates and The Land of Unquestioned Male Dominance and Female Submission.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
That is very brave step taken by Pakistan. Evil united states and its Master the fascist evil zionist state of Israel are treacherous nations, they should not be trusted by any muslim. Turkey has already realised that evil united states and fascist evil zionist state of Israel are ruinous and hostile to all muslims and reviewed Its closer friendly relationship with the deadly cancers.
StellaSaidSo says
Nothing ‘brave’ about it at all. Merely a pathetic attempt at payback for the gaping hole in their coffers.
As for ‘deadly cancers’, there is only one – ISLAM.
FritzMeyer says
Please don’t feed the troll! Soros hires such criminals and whores to lie and provoke!
StellaSaidSo says
I could be wrong, but I don’t think that Ibrahim the Ignoramus is a troll. His posts are far too spittle-flecked and paranoid. IMO, he is a genuine, unalloyed, pickled-brained, batshit-crazy Mohammedan. As JW’s resident jihadist, he serves the very valuable purpose of showing us exactly what we are up against. It is a sobering thought that there are millions of his co-religionists who are as stupid and as hate-filled as he is.
Andy says
To: Ibrahim itace muhammed
Good Riddance to Bad RUBBISH!!!
Have you seen a doctor yet?? You know the problem of calling your so-called faith a “religion of peace” and yet terrorizing the world with violence, rape, bombs, beheadings etc, etc, etc etc……..We could go on and on and ON about your problem Ibrahim.
LeftisruiningCanada says
“they should not be trusted by any muslim”
Wow, you continue to amaze, every day!
Remind me Ibrahim, just how did mohammad honor his peace deals with people?
And you want to accuse the west of being untrustworthy! At least our model, Jesus, wan’t a lying deceiving coward like yours!
Infidel says
Actually, it is GOOD that U continue to post here because U PROVE WHAT WE ALL SAY AND BELIEVE REGARDING UR PEST OF A CREED… Thanks.. keep on doing it… the more U do, the more U expose Urself…
CRUSADER says
But P-A-K-I-STAN helped so much with us finding the Uosama bin Laden hideaway compound at Abbottabad…. This is no way to repay friendly co-operation.
Following sounds like something heard on the Oprah opera show:
“The name of the country was coined in 1933 as Pakstan…. using it as an acronym (“thirty million Muslim brethren who live in PAKSTAN”) referring to the names of the five northern regions of the British Raj:
Punjab, Afghania, Kashmir, Sindh, and Baluchistan. The letter i was incorporated to ease pronunciation and form the linguistically correct, meaningful, and colorful name.”
Hear dear Oprah shout gleefully: “There now is a Paki under everybody’s chair!!!”
Prabh108 says
“pak” is Persian word for “pure” also.
Gerrit Smith says
I wish the Paki government go further and ban its citizens from travelling to the USA.
Leondegrance2 says
Maybe they could ban their citizens from Pakistan itself and go back to Arabia where they belong. I believe Mecca has a few tents they could quadruple up in.
sidney penny says
““Now all veils are off…It is time for a courteous yet ruthlessly candid dialogue between Pakistan and the United States,” he went on to say.”
I do not think he meant to say all veils are off.In Pakistan, all veils are not off.( Never off)
sidney penny says
“What cooperation? It has all been a sham for years.”
Robert, you keep hitting the nail on the head.
Yes,two face Pakistan.
sidney penny says
Robert, time for a new book?
The Complete Infidel’s Guide to Pakistan.
By the way, the number of infidels in Pakistan keeps reducing in Pakistan from the time of its creation in 1947.
shortfattexan says
“and they have given us nothing but lies & deceit, thinking of our leaders as fools.”
It is certainly reasonable for the Pakistanis (and the rest of the world as well) to think that of our leaders. because our leaders have given them more than ample cause to think so. At least until about a year ago.
Baucent says
With “friends” like Pakistan, you don’t need enemies. Hopefully the Russians or Chinese will rush in to fill the gap, because if they do, it will come back to bite them as well.
joanofark06 says
Well let’s see. One muslim country down, and how many more to go?? Keep going Trump! Get out of the muslim countries of Iraq and Afghanistan, because how do you tell a good muslim from a bad muslim? I suppose these soldiers over there, are walking on eggshells, trying hard not to kill the good ones….but, but….”I’m sorry for killing that muslim, they all look the same, how was I to know not to shoot that “good” muslim? “He had bent down to pick up that gun he found on the ground….I thought he was about to shoot me!”
And too bad that muslim country of Saudi Arabia has that oil, that we need, or else we could leave them alone too! But no, Trump had to bend down to have that pretty necklace put around his neck from the Saudi king, and received all those expensive gifts from them, sooo I guess we’ll still keep them around, even though they behead people, almost everyday! Women, too!
Sam says
“Pakistan suspends military, intel cooperation with US”
EXCELLENT!!!
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Joanafark06,Evil united states could keep good tie with evil saudi monarchs to collect back dollars from oil sales in exchange for obsolete weapons ,because the monarchs are idiot to the core. These rascal monarchs Will soon be kicked out from control over Islamic holy sites and administrators appointed from Istanbul to take care of them as It was during ottoman Turks. Then armed robbery by evil united states on the resources from Hijaz Will have to stop
LeftisruiningCanada says
Yes, it will be much better when SA is ruled by the kinds of people who like to fly jets into skyscrapers won’t it Ibrahim.
You crave nothing but death, you poor satanized man, and you’ll start whatever conflicts you can to ensure you create as much of it as possible, won’t you.
Prabh108 says
Good riddance to bad rubbish: study Rig Ved pakistanian scum. Antiquity of Veda: at least 90 000 years.
Pakistanian demographic: Pathans plus faux hindus pretending to be moslem – special contempt for mojahiar bastards of 1947 – bastards you do not belong in Panjab -go to your damn black rock. Ghar Wapsi is your only hope scumlords.