The judge has threatened to jail him unless his family proves he is not promoting jihad terror. “It’s the most difficult thing for the parents because obviously they are very worried about the child and often this comes from nowhere,” said Judge Arbuthnot, but how does he know that his parents didn’t raise him with the beliefs that he has? He should have ordered an investigation of the parents and the local mosque instead of naively assuming that the parents were “moderates.” But this is par for the course in Insane, Suicidal Britannia, which is, of course, finished.
“Judge tells 17-year-old extremist who spread word of US hate preacher he’ll go to jail unless his family stop him promoting jihad,” by Alexander Robertson, Mailonline, January 26, 2018:
A judge has threatened to jail a 17-year-old extremist unless his family prove they are doing all they can to stop him from promoting jihad.
The teenager, from Ilford, east London, has admitted creating flyers and CDs which were found in prayer rooms in two of London’s biggest hospitals.
He was tracked down when a carrier bag containing flyers titled Become martyrs for the sake of Allah’ was left on the Hammersmith and City line in April.
After an investigation to find the owner of the bag – a man aged in his 50s – further extremist material was found in the prayer room at University College Hospital.
The CDs were found to contain a series of lectures by banned hate preacher Anwar al-Awlaki, a U.S.-born cleric linked to al-Qaeda who was killed in a drone strike.
Senior District Judge Emma Arbuthnot said: ‘This boy is nearly 18. This is a very serious offence. I’m going to need to know all I can about the family.
‘If there’s no family stopping this from happening I’m going to lock him up, quite frankly.’
The owner of the bag was traced via CCTV and his travelcard to Royal London Hospital where a pile of CDs marked ‘Free. Take me’ were found in a cupboard in the prayer and contemplation room….
Adjourning sentencing until March 5, Judge Arbuthnot said to the defendant: ‘I need to work out what I’m going to do with your sentence.
‘I have to make sure that if I don’t lock you up there’s a very robust package of measures in place. If you were over 18 I would lock you up, no problem.’
She praised his parents for attending court, saying: ‘It’s the most difficult thing for the parents because obviously they are very worried about the child and often this comes from nowhere.’
The youth was granted bail on condition he live and sleep at his home address, surrenders his passport and reports to his local police station three times a week.
Diane Harvey says
Finally, freedom of speech that Theresa May can fully support.
Roderick MacUalraig says
Sad what’s happening to that great, proud land.
More than that. It’s infuriating.
Indiana Tom says
Her kind of free and uncensored dialogue and communication.
Save Europe says
She is a traitor to MY country. Thatcher would never have behaved in this way.
PRCS says
“The judge has threatened to jail him unless his family proves he is not promoting jihad”
Noooo!
Put him in jail UNTIL his family proves that neither they nor that 17-year-old “extremist” is promoting jihad.
Michael says
Better still, send him to the stake.
Diane Harvey says
” I’m going to need to know all I can about the family,” said the judge.
Good idea, judge. Once you find out he and his family are Muslims you’ve pretty much done your homework.
gravenimage says
At least this judge is looking at the family. So often they don’t even look at the environment the Jihadist is growing up in.
Anne Smith says
Surely she should be ordering an investigation into what his local mosque is teaching?
Just because Teresa May is quite happy with anything they say or do doesn’t mean the rest of us have to be.
StellaSaidSo says
Noooo, Judge, it doesn’t ‘come from nowhere’. It comes from the family and/or the mosque.
utis says
I absolutely agree with you. It’s obvious to me that Britain is a shariah nation and the judge is a dhimmi.
Westman says
Also, directly from the Qur’an and Hadith. Obviously, he can read.
tim gallagher says
Agree with your comments, StellaSaidSo, utis and Westman. It’s rotten, barbaric Islam with its hate and calls for violence against all non-Muslims. Poisonous families of Muslims, poisonous mosques, all of Islam is poisonous and evil. Westman, when you say the would- be terrorist Muslim scumbag reads the Koran, etc. I thought immediately, it’s the idiotic judge who needs to go and read the foul Koran and Hadith and wake up to the evil that all of Islam represents and the danger to us all that Islam is, including to idiotic, know nothing judges like this fool. So many of these judges and other people in power know absolutely nothing about Islam, so they make ludicrous decisions in cases relating to Muslims.
Save Europe says
+1
dumbledoresasrmy says
Exactly.
This is a ‘cradle muslim’.
If they want to test how ‘nice’ and ‘moderate’ the family are, they should do two things when conversing with them 1/ find a way to raise the subject of Israel, and / or of Jews and 2/ raise the subject of apostasy from Islam. Have a hidden camera recording the parents when these topics of conversation are introduced.
They might not necessarily *say* anything obvious, but… what you want is footage of their faces throughout. So that the footage can be slowed down and watched, frame by frame, for the tell-tale ‘micro-expressions’ that betray a person’s real feelings.
Because although Muslims are consummate deceivers, and can – so it is said – pass the average lie-detector test, I suspect that they might not be able to control their *unconscious*. (And M Scott Peck has argued that the *unconscious* has a terrible tendency to ‘tell the truth’, even in the case of evil people).
The guy who came up with the concept of ‘micro-expressions’ and helped create the so-called ‘Facial Action Coding System’ was wont to declare that ‘the face is like the p*n*s.” What he meant was that hundreds of thousands of years of human evolution have programmed us to *show* what we actually feel – because when we’re pre-verbal infants we *have* to be able to be ‘read’ correctly (and we humans are also programmed to pick up on the body language, especially the facial language, of others). And even if we are practised actors/ deceivers, apparently our real feelings ‘leak’ or ‘seep’ through in tiny bursts.
How I would love to turn a FACS expert loose on a few hours’ worth of video recordings of the likes of Tariq Ramadan when being interviewed by someone who is asking a few hard questions. Slow the recording down and look at it frame by frame by frame.
Michael Copeland says
Lawyers in England have no training in Sharia.
Senior judge Emma Arbuthnot is ignorant about Islam.
Senior judge Emma Arbuthnot is NEGLIGENT in failing to inform herself of Islam.
The information is easily available, at The Religion of Peace website and elsewhere.
Amanda says
Lock him up! Nevermind his family just lock him up. If they’re extremists lock them up too. He’s old enough to know what he’s doing and should face the consequences in other words prison. If he was white and “far right” he would be jailed regardless of his family.
dumbledoresasrmy says
Jail him. Then after he has served an appropriate sentence – *segregated strictly so that he has NO contact with non-Muslim prisoners* and *also* restricted as to how many fellow Muslims he is allowed to have contact with, in prison – strip him of UK citizenship and deport both him and his parents to whichever part of the dar al islam represents their point of ethnic origin.
Meanwhile: whatever mosque or mosques he and / or his parents, brothers, cousins,e tc. attended, should be surprise-raided and searched and if ANYTHING at all suspect is found – such as the originals of these bloodthirsty flyers, or similar – or traces of explosives or poisons or illegal drugs or precursors for same, or counterfeit cash or suspiciously-large stashes of real cash, or false or real ID documents, or false floors or false ceilings or hidden safes or sub-basements/ tunnel entrances that don’t appear on the plans held by the City Council, or stashes of weaponry, or beheading videos or stashes of kiddie porn… – then the mosque gets shut down, and – if not in heritage-listed previously-infidel premises, that could be fumigated and repurposed for infidel use – *dynamited*, razed to the ground, and its imam/s gets deported. If the imam is a citizen, he loses it, and gets deported anyway.
That’s what needs to start happening in cases like this, all over the western world… and beyond it.
Prabh108 says
Dump the jihadists in Africa where they can be deprogrammed.
Internal reform of Islam is needed. Indeed internal reform of many creeds is needed.
No place in civilized society for Jihadism or jihadists.
pr108
gravenimage says
Who is going to “deprogram” them?
LeftisruiningCanada says
“Boko Haram” will teach him the true path
Save Europe says
They’re not within the UK. However, ‘Emni’ are…..and the MSM do not report on their presence.
Indiana Tom says
Deadhorse Alaska would be better. Polar Bear encounter.
simpleton1 says
One wonders about the nurses and doctors that use those prayer rooms, seeking peace, and motivation to follow their perfect man to emulate, Mohammad.
Will it be little bit of infection here or there, miss using an alcohol hand cleaner, just to make the life of unbeliever suffer, and “God willing” die, then a credit towards paradise?
StellaSaidSo says
Many suspect that it’s already happening. The elderly in particular are easy targets. Sometimes all it takes is a little ‘carelessness’, of the sort that you described.
The first vehicular jihad fatalities were similarly ambiguous. Kuffar victim, Muslim driver, entirely coincidental, just a traffic accident. Move along, folks, nothing to see here…
gravenimage says
Agreed, simpleton1 and Stella.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Yes to the above.
Its interesting to check through the websites of local newspapers in the UK, and see how many ‘little’ vehicle-pedestrian interfaces you can spot. Bonus points if you get a name for the driver.
there’s some funny stuff going on.
StellaSaidSo says
Yes, this is exactly what some suspicious observers did, LIRC – they checked local records, and discovered a pattern.
You’re right, there’s some funny stuff going on. And it’s been going on for a long time, without us noticing.
Champ says
She praised his parents for attending court, saying: ‘It’s the most difficult thing for the parents because obviously they are very worried about the child and often this comes from nowhere.’
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Such naiveté …
As Robert pointed out, the parents should be investigated, too. But of course the judge is clueless about islam.
CRUSADER says
Bring back Maggie Thatcher please !
CRUSADER says
Mrs Thatcher vs Sweden:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QbFZgyDcXqw
CLASSIC British blunt force trauma to Dhimmi journalist Swede….
gravenimage says
Yes–I don’t think the “Iron Lady” would have been sanguine about this insanity.
Jayell says
Don’t you mean ‘Bring back Churchill’? HE was the one with his head screwed on as far as islam is concerned.
CRUSADER says
If the shoe fits.
It’s just that there is a woman back at #10.
But, if Thatcher could be brought back, so could Churchill.
😉
gravenimage says
UK: Muslim teen leaves flyers and CD’s calling for jihad terrorism in two of London’s biggest hospitals
The judge has threatened to jail him unless his family proves he is not promoting jihad terror. “It’s the most difficult thing for the parents because obviously they are very worried about the child and often this comes from nowhere”
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Of course, sonny boy almost certainly learned this from good ol’ mum and dad in the first place.
Indiana Tom says
Hey I can go to the hospital and be on Jihad all at the same time. Convenient!
Fred says
https://twitter.com/MykaReno/status/958138180733202432
https://twitter.com/hashtag/qanon?lang=en
Trump is more clever than we realize.
Champ says
Gotta love Trump!
Jack Holan says
Short of locking him up this wimp of a Judge should have given him 2 consecutive days at a maximum security prison until March 5 to give him a taste of his future a 23H would be perfect.
I hope the judges long winded claim about the parent is based upon her interviews of them and intensive background checks. However I have the feeling they were spontaneous words running from here mouth. How does she think he he fear prison when possibly one day he’d become a Suicide Bomer? Maybe his parent speak well Of IS and Osama bin Laden and How Bad the West and Infidels are for Mslimxs Perhaps the use Taqyya in their praise of the West. How does the Judge know anything. He isn’t a Western Criminal Case Model
Fred says
One more: Maxine Waters siding with CAIR and refugees over people in her own district
https://twitter.com/jmboman72/status/958131642647891969
MFritz says
“Mad” Maxine is one of the WORST black racists and hypocrites in US-politics! She never shows her rich ass around the poorer parts of town for sure.
tedh754 says
Every time I read about what is going in Britain, I wonder if those British soldiers and sailors who fought against Hitler would have bothered had they known that future generations were going to willingly hand over the keys to the kingdom to the most retrograde force the world has ever known.
Infidel says
Hear hear.. the same thing can be said of my country India too.. what would those that fought for Indian freedom from colonialism think when they find out that India is also willingly handing its keys to that same most retrograde force..
Lydia Church says
Such love, mercy, and compassion for the sick!
What a religion!
Disgusting!!!!!
MFritz says
Islam (ab)uses women AND children for jihad. And these people don’t care about the “humanistic” aspect as it doesn’t even exist in their culture. It’s a TOUGH lesson for us to learn.
gravenimage says
True.
Santa Voorhees says
We need a zero tolerance policy. I seriously would have sent the SAS already to plant a bullet between his eyes. He gets his 72 virgins, we get safer, and we are both happy. It’s just a win-win situation.
Retarded leftists: “But… but… he’s only 17 years old! How can you do that you inhumane bastard?!?”
Jihadists don’t care whether you are 3, 17, 40 or 95 years old. They will still slaughter you regardless. And we need to do the same.
Infidel says
Let me make a small correction: The main mass murder target of the Jehaadis is the men of the alien culture where Islam has entered one way or the other.. The women and children, Islam would love to enslave..
FYI says
So where on earth do young muslims get the idea that terrorism is ok?
“I have been made victorious through Terror”
muhammed
bukhari 4:52:220
oh…right…that might be it….their “prophet” muhammed{sbuh} …..and their god allah{“slay the unbelievers wherever you find them k2:191}
That might explain it.