This doesn’t mean that Cruz was an Islamic jihadi. It means that he saw their bloodlust, and admired it. An organization that glories in violence and murder is going to attract people of like mind. And if that organization justifies itself by reference to the teachings of a major religion, this kind of thing is going to keep on happening.
The FBI, of course, did nothing. I can hear the clueless agents now: “ISIS? Pah! They believe in jihad, an interior spiritual struggle!”
elee says
ISIS murder videos cultivate Muslim recruits out of the pool of real sickos who enjoy this stuff. Well, the Prophet enjoyed watching the mass murder of 800 men at Medina, so I guess at least ISIS is being authentic. It’s enough to make a decent support cybersurveillance.
Mamo says
White supremist aka neo nazi worse than Muslim extremists,they do not care what religion do you have,if the decided once,they die for their decision to kill innocent people,their white fake Jesus Christ on the wall,they pray to destroy people at any time,the problem is not psych problem,but demons,they thing they are the only human race in this planet.
J D S says
mamo….Nobody on earth is worse than Muslim extremist….
You are living in a fake world if you believe otherwise.
Ken says
White supremacists are atheists who deny the existence of Jesus Christ. You have no idea what you are saying.
Jay says
You’re right Ken….but there’s 10 thousand times more Islamists than white fascist supremists….who aren’t very bright either. The Islamists are clever infiltrators….most use brains and the dumber ones are used for brawn…ie. suicide bombers etc.
Ickym says
Do your research and you will learn that Muslim followers have killed 900 million people during their 1400 years of existance.
MTMLA says
You must be a muslime or a muslime apologist.
MTMLA says
FYI, Muslimes and Nazis were hand in hand in the extermination of the Jews.
CRUSADER says
If the perp is, that’s one more reason for Florida to fry him.
Soon.
Get it done and over with.
Move on.
MTMLA says
A few years back in Rio de Janeiro, Brazil, a sico went to a middle school and shot and killed several teenagers, especially girls. I think at least 14 kids were slaughtered.. There were signs he was associated with islam, he frequented a mosque, there was a picture of him with a beard, the muslim cap, and the nightgown outfit and mentioning of meeting with arabic named men prior to his jihad act. He didn’t kill more people because some kids ran out of school and were able to find a policeman nearby who was armed, and ran to the school and killed the SOB who was going up to the third floor to complete his mission. The authorities and the media covered up the possible islamic connection and attributed the attack to bullying.The islamic population in Brazil is growing unchecked…Soon Brazilians will have a rude awakening. Bin Laden’s brother lived in Florianópolis in the SE of Br, and BL would visit him there.The area around the Iguaçu Falls harbours a big colony of muslimes as well as São Paulo.This all spells problems in the horizon…The Brazilian people are desarmed. Only criminals , the military and the police have arms. The people are sitting ducks, just like in Europe.The criminals are better armed than the police.
Prebanian says
“Nine out of ten criminally insane individuals prefer Islam.”
JawsV says
Heh! So true, so true!
Jay says
I’d love to see that study! ?
Halal Bacon says
The reason why the left embraces islam is because they are lacking in any kind of compass, so they latch onto the first pile of doo doo, such as islam and the “perfect” man and his buddy satan
elee says
The entire “left” does not embrace Islam; traditionally the left has supported secularism and a wall of separation between church and state, so leftists who embrace Islam are kind of an unprecedented development in addition to being plain wrong. And let’s not use this site to fight between “left” and “right,” let’s make common cause against this subhuman murder cult. And my friends on the right could deploy their efforts well in getting rid of Islamophiles like Tillerson and McMaster, and being vigilant about the Trump-Erdogan bromance..
Bxgirl says
I agree.
Joy D. Brower says
WHAT “Trump-Erdogan bromance?!?” I’d say that Trump has never warmed up to this POS – and this POS Ahmet has been bad-mouthing Trump from the get-go!! Trump knows that he’s a dangerous SOB, but we (still) have bases and a strong military interest in Turkey and its strategic geographic location in Asia Minor. I think it’ll be a cold day in hell when Trump or Erdogan make any peaceful overtures of any kind to each other!!
Eric jones says
The current Left that embraces Islam is totalitarian. At one time the American left was open to differing opinions, not anymore. I agree that Islam is the threat.
With the standoff weapons we have today to launch missiles from air or sea Turkey is no longer the strategic location it once was. All of our assets in Turkey should have been remove one year ago.
Trump has a Trump Tower in Istanbul. We will see what interest Trump put first as Erdogan continues his provocations.
Eric
JawsV says
FBI was given this little turd on a silver platter and they botched it.
ElderlyZionist says
“This doesn’t mean that Cruz was an Islamic jihadi. It means that he saw their bloodlust…”
Quite. Cruz isn’t a Muslim, he’s just batshot crazy.
“The FBI, of course, did nothing.”
I don’t need to remind you that in 2015 the FBI instigated and abetted an assassination attempt against yourself and Pam Geller in Garland Texas. If you had not employed private security staff armed with (*ghasp*) assault weapons, someone might have been killed besides the mujahidin.
Something is very rotten in the FBI.
mgoldberg says
It’s actually fairly simple. The leader of the gov at that time, being much worse than merely an appeaser, had it made forbidden to label Islam and Jihad, and or in the same sentence, and in the training manuals for the Defense dept, the military, and all those who were previously speakers in that regard were rejected for training people, or educating people. Hence, when FBI leadership was disallowed from using any such notions about Islam/Jihad and or their relationship to terror, it was just a hope skip and a jump to being
blind and even willfully so…. in the case of the Garland Incident, who knows how far down the rabbit hole that ignorance descended. The documents have been refused for review, but all it took was the command to not see Islam as in any way capable of that terrorism, and the rest follows.
Rhonda says
Dont forget the muslim
CIA Brennan
MTMLA says
I sincerely believe that the police and the FBI didn’t interfere in this matter, under the direction of their superiors who are Hitlery and Odumbo and the left loyalists, so they could further the socialist agenda of going after the 2nd amendment , guns and right to bear arms by the public. Yet they keep their armed to the teeth secret service 24/7 and all kinds of armed protection the tax payers pay and provide them.
Bezelel says
The list of botched FBI involvements is way to long for coincidence. I’m no Sherlock but there is definitely a pattern here. Shame is on them, no doubt. Where do we go from here?
StellaSaidSo says
Yes, there is definitely a pattern, and it is not due to ‘incompetence’. The FBI is corrupt, a tool of the deep state / globalist cabal, which aims to disarm America prior to taking it over and implementing a totalitarian regime..
Evidence that there was more than one shooter at the school is being suppressed. The MSM is complicit.
Nikolas Cruz was very likely set up – the latest in a long list of patsies which includes Stephen Paddock and Adam Lanza.
Kay says
More than one shooter?
StellaSaidSo says
Yep. More than one shooter. Same as Las Vegas.
Westman says
I have absolutely no doubt that former class mates bullied and insulted this child-mind though, as always, they will lie about it. That is their guilt to carry.
How this warning could have been passed over by the FBI is beyond comprehension.
It said:
He has a mental deficiency
He is quick to anger, particularly to certain subjects (and ridicule)
He has weapons
He is enamored with ISIS
He says he wants to kill
He has an abundance of money to finance whatever he needs to carry it out.
Is this like Garland, TX, where it appears that it was allowed to happen for some purpose?
And then the security guard hid outside instead of taking action. Gun rights legislation?
Westman says
Good Grief! It’s now been reported that 3 additional Sheriff’s deputies were outside while the shooting was in progress and did not go in.
“…three “deputies had their pistols drawn and were behind their vehicles” when Coral Springs officers arrived. They said “not one of [the deputies] had gone into the school.”
It seems that when seconds count, cowards wait. Broward County needs to clean house.
Kay says
3 deputies? And is this a bit like the Pulse shooting in the waiting?
Warmac9999 says
One of the deputies was involved with the Muslim brotherhood. I do not agree that Cruz isn’t a Muslim. There have been an unusual number of on the spot conversions.
MTMLA says
Last time I read 4 policemen stood outside while the shooting was going on and the kids and teacher were being slaughtered. Something very bizarre is going on.
Kay says
Every time I see the kid’s picture, I think this is about drug use. He looks like he was drug addicted in utero. (just a guess of course)
LeftisruiningCanada says
There’s a good summary of the whole thing by Stefan Molyneaux on youtube.
The amount of evidence that this young guy was trouble brewing is incredible.
Example: 39 visits to him and his mother’s home over just a few years for domestic violence, disturbances, missing person reports etc etc etc.
Several reports in the months before the attack from people close to him SAYING that he was planning a school shooting.
The list goes on and on and on.
MTMLA says
I read both boys were adopted as infants and Nicholas bio mother was a drug addict.
Gerald Mucci says
That’s what happens when you take all the words that mean anything out of the FBI’s training manuals.
The Broward County Sheriff’s Department training manuals must have been deficient as well. It appears they read something like: “When you hear shooting inside a school, all sheriff’s personnel must remain in place hiding behind their patrol vehicles.” This is exactly what was done during the shooting inside the school.
The Broward County Sheriff should resign YESTERDAY!
Undaunted says
This is common practice in police response to active shooters.
In April 2013, Boston and Watertown cops got into a running gun battle with the Tsarnaev brothers after they had detonated a bomb at Boston’s one-event track meet. After exchanging fire with the cops, Dz ran over his own brother to escape but the cops did not pursue. They said they couldn’t navigate around all the cop cars parked in the street so they let Dz flee, not knowing what weapons were still in the car he was driving. But Dz managed to make it through the maze of black-and-whites, eh? The truth is that one of the cops at the scene took some rounds and rather than chase a very dangerous young man, the several cops at the shootout scene did not pursue but made sure their brother officer got to a hospital.
In September 2013, a shooter entered the biggest building on the Washington Navy Yard with a shotgun and started roaming the building, shooting people. One of the “leaders” made all the responding cops report to him first so he could be sure they were all wearing their SBA. While they stood in line, Alexis was inside killing, including an armed security guard from whom Alexis took a 9mm pistol. Some cops finally made it into Bldg 197 but Alexis shot one of them in the leg so the other three, though the shooter was right there and an easy target, decided it was best to drag their wounded buddy down the stairs to safety. While they did that, Alexis shot and killed more victims.
In December 2015 San Bernardino Police Lieutenant Mike Madden was the first officer to arrive on-scene at the Inland Regional Center. Madden himself said there were more than two shooters dressed in black shooting up the building and he didn’t know where they were. Rather than enter immediately to find and engage the shooters, Madden – as one can clearly hear on the 911 dispatch recordings – waited outside the building behind his car until had had enough men on his entry team… and then they went in. The After Action Report done by the DOJ said Madden entered the building 2 minutes after arriving on-scene. Listen to the tapes: he didn’t enter until at least 6 minutes after he got there and may have waited as long as 9 minutes before he finally decided to do his job.
In September 2016, Omar Mateen opened fire with an AR in the Pulse Nightclub in Orlando. Outside the club was an off-duty detective who was making some OT money as a security guard. When Mateen started shooting, the detective pumped a few rounds through the front door glass as he hid behind his car… waiting for other cops to show up, and then he fired again into the club from his position of cover. The entry team that assembled didn’t go into the club until having been on-scene for several minutes. A second entry team waited even longer before going in after the shooter.
This latest shooting where the cops failed to move immediately to find, fix, and destroy the shooter is not odd, it’s the way they do it. They will not change their tactics because they continue to look at school shooters as lone actors – almost no law enforcement agencies train for a Beslan-like scenario. In fact, almost every single police training program or document I’ve reviewed over the years pretends Beslan never happened.
So, how do you think cops in your town will respond when multiple shooters storm the elementary school your kid attends? Having cops keep an office in a school won’t work, terrorists will just create a diversion on the other end of town and the cops at school will self-deploy to that distant location, leaving the school vulnerable. Schools need 3-4 man teams of experienced, committed bad-ass terrorist-killers. When the school is open, the teams are there, ready to rock.
Period.
Bezelel says
They are acting as if Beslan can’t happen here, It has been on my mind since this latest event. Disarming the population is no solution. I hope a game plan evolves rapidly because you know the bad guys are watching and planning around our disgraceful weak spots. People just don’t seem to believe how evil and determined our enemies are. Case after case and all they can think to do about it is disarm? Shelter in place and wait for your turn to die is not a strategy.
Undaunted says
Yup.
Eric jones says
Undaunted, thanks for your informative comment. I thought police changed their tactics after the Texas Tech shooting. The wait outside scenario happend there also.
Eric
Undaunted says
Thanks, Eric; I covered it all in more detail here:
https://www.amazon.com/Six-Actual-Need-Charge-These-Dangerous-ebook/dp/B075Z4PLKC
Jay says
This is such foolish talk….that every school should have one or more swat teams on the premise at all times. The Parlkand campus is 45 acres. Duh! Also…these swat team members would have nothing to do day in and day out for months and years. Just ridiculous!
Undaunted says
I didn’t say SWAT.
Bezelel says
Jay, That is a weak spot, the aggressors always have the advantage of choosing the time and place. Defenders do have to take that into account. Gun free zones are that dangerous these days. Anyone who creates a gun free zone needs to be held responsible for security. Anyone who is so dangerous that they can’t be trusted with a firearm can’t be trusted to walk the streets.They can and do find something else to use. The somethings else need to be given as much concern as firearms. The peroxide bombs explode more than 5 times faster than gunpowder, fire, poison gas, cars, cutlery all are potential wmd’s and we aren’t supposed to even say anything about the known potential threats.
Champ says
Jay wrote:
“foolish talk” …”Just ridiculous!”
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
No it isn’t.
Got any better ideas? Probably not. Or maybe you’ll surprise us.
And I credit those, here, whose sole intention is to protect innocent lives. No worries, Jay, no one will ever accuse you of being a guardian of the innocent–not unless you can come up with a *better* plan of your own. Instead you shoot down those attempting to prevent a future tragedy? Wow.
MTMLA says
I read that Cruz activatd the fire alarm to bring people outside to be easier target.
I remember in Connecticut the slaughter of Dr. Petit family, his wife and 2 daughters, The police was standing outside while the wife and the girls were being raped and burned alive.Fire was coming out of the windows and the two criminals escaped in the ladies car and it crashed. That’s when the police acted. Dr Petit, even though beat up with a club and bloodied and tied was able to escape the basement window and roll over the grass to the neighbor’s house for help. It was horrible and so sad. It seems the deaths could have been prevented if the police had acted faster.
Champ says
Criminals are drawn to ISIS aka islam.
Kay says
And ISIS easily uses the weak and warped for their evil purposes.
MFritz says
The saddest thing about this mass murderer is the fact the Democrats (and their feminazi-allies) call him a “white man” and blame “toxic masculinity” for the shooting. And msm repeat this stupid nonsense 24/7.
JawsV says
Cruz must be Hispanic, right?
Kay says
Right. It’s clearly not an issue of race or masculinity. Focus on those diverts attention from the real grief, and from the attempts to understand causes so as to prevent future tragedies.
Chand says
What next?
The Caliphate might now say that Cruz was one of their ‘soldiers’, making some shout in glee: “See! Look! Told you so! ISIS! Jihad! Islam! Koran!”
Except that most of the Caliphate’s propaganda machine’s probably in smithereens.
Linda says
You are wrong. Islamist radicals are gaining on Europe and Canada everyday. If the liberal govt in Canada is not removed and stopped Canada will have so many terrorists that established Canadians will have to be armed to the hilt as well as established Americans. jt and the libs. are rewarding many terrorists with out right rewards of approximately 10.5 million a piece if they are world wide renown. You think the US has trouble? At least Trump is anti-terrorist.
Lebel says
Robert Spencer: “I am not saying he’s a Muslim, I’m just going to leave this here”
Jihadwatchers: “MUSLIM!!! I knew it!”
Spencer and Geller know that their followers need there to be a link to Islam for their world to make sense. Pamela Geller is usually the more enthusiastic but Mr. Spencer also can’t help himself.
From now on, in the minds of jihadwatchers, the shooter will be a Muslim. Well played Jihadwatch, you certainly know your audience.
VRWC member77 says
—– Jihadwatchers: “MUSLIM!!! I knew it!” —–
Sure……what poster said that?
“From now on, in the minds of jihadwatchers, the shooter will be a Muslim. Well played Jihadwatch, you certainly know your audience.”
Better that “Jihadwatchers” are more vigilant about the Jihad threat and have an extra survival tool – just in case – than a self righteous all knowing pompous leftist such as yourself.
Keep swimming away from the crocodiles…….I’ll watch with bemusement if one catches up to you.
Kay says
Is your name lebel or libel?
Your attempt to discredit people seems as if you can’t read. Robert’s statement is clear and NOT what you ascribed to him. (It’s not that long. Reread it.)
The discussion that follows is about the FBI.
JawsV says
Hint: “Lebel” is of the Mohammedan persuasion.
Lebel says
No it’s just that Mr. Spencer wants to make the link with Islam but then maintain plausible deniability. He’s very good at it,
Kay says
The link to ISIS was made by Kruz himself and reported to the FBI by someone close to Kruz.
Robert Spencer has merely reported it and made a brief analysis: attracted to the violence.
Like I said, reread his statement above; your false paraphrase warps the meaning.
Bezelel says
Mass murder immediately links to islam, like it or not. Keep up with current events.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Who made the link to isis/islam?
don vito says
psychobabelist, your mind reading abilities a quite poor. Reading into something not there equals delusion.
Champ says
“libel” wrote:
“MUSLIM!!! I knew it!”
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
What an idiotic remark …
Since a “muslim” is a follower of islam–including ‘prophet’ muhammad, who was a distrustful lunatic, liar, thief, evil pedophile, rapist and mass-murderer. So of course muslims are NOT to be trusted because they think that mo was the “Perfect Man”, and followers are taught to follow their leader and his examples of evil. C’mon, of course muslims are a threat, as this is observed throughout the world everyday through islamic terrorism and other such horrors.
It is extremely foolish and potentially dangerous to EVER **trust** a muslim, and under ANY circumstance. Never, ever TRUST a muslim. Period.
Champ says
“libel” is a muslim, and he also serves as Exhibit A as to why muslims should not be trusted–due to the constant stream of lies he deposits on Jihad Watch.
And *sometimes* muslims leave comments on Jihad Watch whom are friendly, smooth-talkers. But they are liars, too, because they attempt to put islam is a good light–when nothing could be further from the truth! Of course I am talking about ‘other’ muslims, since “libel” is never friendly or a smooth-talker. He’s a clown.
MTMLA says
You must be a muslim or an apologist for the followers of Satan.
FYI says
Evil souls are attracted to evil beliefs.
Hate seeks out hate.
Those who love to hate seek out that which facilitates their hate.
That’s why it is possible for a neo-Nazi to convert to islam,a failed Christian to join isis.a wannabe murderer to become a mercenary.
WPM says
The FBI the” Famous But Incompetent ” how many times have they failed to take action in the last 24 years? My opinion for what is worth is after the Waco Texas clusterf**k with the ATF under President Clinton where they burn down a compound with women and children in it with a poorly plan idiotic run action ,the government has been afraid to be pro active in stopping or questioning .The officials when a mass shooting or hostage holding activity is going on are not going to act until the “top officials “of their agencies show up. The troops are the ground have been told they will take a fall for any actions taken without permission . If someone brings some information about a threat like this young man ,I see the FBI agent forwarding up the chain of command to a level where the people in change have to run it by a group of lawyers to keep “damage control” if some group jumps on the FBI for infringing on some protective groups rights. The number of these “protected groups” grows daily with Moslem ,and left wing causes on the top of the list. This causes a lot of inaction ,apathy , demoralization on the agents that deal with the public on a daily basis .All of this is to cover the asses of agents appointed to run the FBI and local law enforcement units “the fish starts to sink at the head first”. Remove anything from training books or hand on training that might offend “protected groups” make the FBI like social workers trying to pander and please instead of protect the citizens of this nation.
Politicianophobia says
The Muslim Brotherhood is wonderful. The Muslim Brotherhood is all about peace and Love. The Muslim Brotherhood are just people who love Allah, right Lebel?
Ed Lee says
The people in power in this country, regardless of labels like “liberal” or “conservative”, have engineered these school shooting incidents. They have teams that go out and find people who are on the edge of a mental cliff and push them over, through brainwashing and/or drugs. They want the Second Amendment gone and they are willing to do heinous things to achieve that goal. An armed populace cannot be subjugated by any force, whether it be Islam, a tyrannical dictator, or something like the UN. The Second Amendment is the last line of defense for individual liberty. There is such anti-gun fervor right now that I fully expect to see a bill in Congress, before this year is out, to repeal the Second Amendment.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Can you imagine how bad the situation would be if HRC and her dream team was running the show right now?
Ed Lee says
I agree. Having an unprosecuted felon in the White House would be disastrous to freedom. The problem we have now is that Trump repeatedly opens his mouth or puts fingers to a keyboard before he thinks. He is foolishly destroying all credibility. He is likely to be a one-term president. We could easily end up with someone in the White House in 2021 who is as bad or worse than HRC.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Well, here’s one sat a little north of the 49th hopin’ you’re wrong about that!
MTMLA says
The left is willing to accept a certain level of violence to further their agenda: the abolishment of the 2nd amendment and to disarming the population.
762x51FMJ says
The cause of this attack was the Florida State Legislatures School yard to Prison yard program.
Written by leftists this law completely expunges a juveniles record the moment they turn 18.
The Obama era law was intended to end discrimination against rapists and murderers who as minors want their violent histories hidden so they can apply to work near your wife and children..
This also allows a minor with a history of violent crimes to legally purchase firearms the moment they turn 18. It is perfect prescription for a terror attack..
If Cruz was a little younger he could re-qualify for the program, have his record as a juvenile expunged,
turn 18, buy another gun, and do it again..
Ed Lee says
As a California cop (Los Angeles County Sheriff) explained to me a few years ago, expunge does not mean delete. The records are still there, they are just difficult for anyone outside of law enforcement to access.
Michael Skok says
Islam is an inspiration for murderers and psychos. Ban the Koran. Ban Islam.
Jay says
You got it right Michael! Islamic murderous random attacks aet bad examples for young and /or vulnerable individuals as acceptable forms of expression. Of course the main problem here is that Kruz or anyone can even buy an Ar 15 or any other assault rifle. That has to stop first. The other causes are secondary. I’m appalled that the family he stays with let him move in with all those guns…locked up or not.In Canada, at that age when our son moved , his possessions were a guitar,bookcase, some clothes and towels.Kids can’t buy guns of any kind.
Jeff Allen says
Not sure how many of the JW’ers out there have ever listened to Bryan Suits, ex-military, on the radio. Last week (2/17), he was on talking about his theory on why there were never any school shootings prior to the Columbine shooting in April, 1999. He has the facts to back up his claims about it seemingly being all white, teenage perpitrators who were all prescribed Adirol, or something similar. Please take the time to acquaint yourself with this premise at:
https://player.fm/series/dark-secret-place-1457640/ep-0217-dark-secret-place.
His knowledge is riveting.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Quite a few mass shooters have been on some kind of psychiatric medication, it’s true.
This one in particular had been on law enforcement and social care radar long enough, and for enough reasons, to be made ineligible for firearms purchase.
The problem is not the 2nd Amendment, not even close. The current protections are sufficient, if they were properly made use of.