And remember: Indonesia is a model “moderate” Muslim nation. In any case, in a few years we will see the headline “France: Muslims push ban on gay sex, cohabitation, sex outside marriage.”
In any case, you won’t hear a thing about this from gay spokesmen in the U.S. When Pamela Geller and I via AFDI ran ads highlighting the mistreatment of gays in Islamic law, the San Francisco Board of Supervisors, which is its city council, issued a resolution condemning not that mistreatment, but our ads. Gay advocates such as Theresa Sparks and Chris Stedman attacked us for daring to call attention to the institutionalized mistreatment of gays under Islamic law. Their gay advocacy doesn’t extend to standing up to Sharia oppression of gays, even though that oppression is far more virulent and violent than anything from “right-wing extremists” in the U.S. And you can’t blame them: given the Leftist/jihadist alliance, it’s clear that if they spoke out against Sharia mistreatment of gays, they would no longer be invited to the best parties, and might even be branded as “right-wing.”
“Indonesia’s Hard-Line Muslims Push Ban on Unmarried, Gay Sex,” by Ben Otto and Anita Rachman, Wall Street Journal, February 1, 2018:
JAKARTA, Indonesia—Gay sex, cohabitation, and sex outside marriage would become illegal and punishable with prison terms under proposals from Islamic parties that could soon become law in the world’s largest Muslim-majority nation.
Critics say the moves, which are being negotiated among Indonesia’s political parties and government legislative drafters, would, if enacted, be a major blow to democracy in this Southeast Asian nation of 250 million….
c matt says
And all we want in the US is the right to not bake a cake. Go figure.
mortimer says
The SUPREMACISTS in Indonesia won’t stop until they have it ALL. When Sharia controls everyone, the Muslims will begin the genocides.
J D S says
Muslims pushing for Punishment for sex wherever it may be, outside of marriage, etc. ???
With all the “permissions” for sex and rape, even to slavery for sex, in Islam, Muslims sure have no right to say or demand anything pertaining to sex…Punishment???God will punish those who disobey his laws concerning sex……Muslims have no right in punishment but the world has a right in punishment to them for their atrocities or God will punish them in the “lake of fire”.
Micheal Proulx says
And, behold, one of them which were with Jesus stretched out his hand, and drew his sword, and struck a servant of the high priest’s, and smote off his ear.
Then said Jesus unto him, Put up again thy sword into his place: for all they that take the sword shall perish with the sword.Thinkest thou that I cannot now pray to my Father, and he shall presently give me more than twelve legions of angels? But how then shall the scriptures be fulfilled, that thus it must be?
God will send them, strong delusion that they should believe a Lie, The THEM is the leftist in my opinion. The scriptures are being fullfilled, wheather we like it or not.
StellaSaidSo says
This is what 40 years of Saudi money will do.
Westman says
Yes. Remember when the Greens were saying that the polution products of our automobiles would kill people? Well it’s true – the world-wide polution product of Wahabism, a byproduct of driving our cars, is killing people.
LeftisruiningCanada says
How cynical.
How true.
elee says
Their world or ours?
Benedict says
“Gay sex, cohabitation, and sex outside marriage” are hallmarks of any civilized nation and these should not only be protected against the barbarism of Islamic law; since all three phenomena together have proved their efficiency as weapons against Christianity they should also be used as attack-weapons against Islam.
First when the shackles of religion have been utterly destroyed can a new, reborn race of human beings emerge from the rubble and populate a brave new world.
I suppose that it is in this spirit a town in Germany “teaches Muslim migrants how to pick up non-Muslim women”? (https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/02/germany-town-teaches-muslim-migrants-how-to-pick-up-non-muslim-women)
Please correct me if I am wrong and feel free to suggest another strategy for combating the repulsive ideology of Islam, that has already rooted itself in the West – if you know any such strategy?
LeftisruiningCanada says
Well, when you say it like that……
mariam rove says
As an ex muslim the best strategy is to keep them out. Just like Trump said on Tuesday stop the chain immigration. M
Save Europe says
Not your fault you were born a Muslim. Life is a lottery, but you did well to escape ?
Indiana Tom says
“Gay sex, cohabitation, and sex outside marriage” are hallmarks of any uncivilized nation and these should not only be protected against the barbarism of Islamic law; since all three phenomena together have proved their efficiency as fantastic weapons against Judeo- Christianity.
First when the shackles of religion and an orderly philosophical civilization have been utterly destroyed can a new, reborn race of sub-human beings emerge from the rubble and populate a New World Order.
Just so we are all on the same page, all of those fuddy duddy folks populating the wild wild West had a crime rate a third of our new gay sex, cohabitation, and sex outside marriage society. Societies must have a moral framework to operate by. Even Ayn Rand stated that mankind and society must have a moral code to live by which is why she wrote the book Philosophy: Who Needs It?.
In Philosophy: Who Needs It, a collection of essays written by Rand in the years following Atlas Shrugged, she argues that philosophy is not a pastime for brooding teenagers or ivory tower intellectuals. It’s a subject that deals with some of the most important issues in human life. What kind of world do we live in? How do we separate knowledge from error? What is good and what is evil?
It was always stated that Ayn Rand was many times close to a lot of Judeo-Christian principles, even though she was an atheist.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Founding Fathers knew it too…..”(the Constitution) is only fit for a moral and religious people. For any other, it is wholly inadequate” or something along those lines.
MFritz says
Indonesia fully prepared to dive bomb into a shithole.
DHazard says
What will be the response of the U.N. if these laws are put in place? Nothing, unless they can somehow link them to something Israel or the U.S. is doing. Then it would become a news article: “Muslims becoming slightly less moderate due to the continuing presence of Israel in Jerusalem”.
Xero_G says
A more effective ban to improve Islamic society would be to ban marriage between first cousins. 70 generations of inbreeding have taken its toll.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Yes, it is a good to protect human diginity and decency. sex outside marriage is degrading to humans and corrupt family system. Muslims should not allow beast way of life as prevailing in the West. According to a survey reported in Ap in 2016 more than 95% of Americans have sex outside marriage. Now with advent of savage mad devil Trump who líkes sex outside marriage It could reach 99% ,and with girls before marriage It reach 99.99% because of rampant sexual abuse on children by churchmen in the evil united states. It means Americans are no more than pigs having indiscriminate sex. when you go to America, thé First thing you Will See is sex activités everywhere. which kind of society is this without decency ?
Gay or homosexuality is perversity, it is unnatural against thé law of nature. Even beasts do not practice It. Yet, people in the West, especially the evil united states ,want right to do It protected. Americans are too barbaric. what is thére in anus sex ? it is too irratiational. Almighty God created and decorates woman’s vagina and attach too much enjoyment there, how can you leave It and choose man’s anus the abode of horrible bad smells ? you mithraist christians whose ladies do not use water to clean, ask your wives to imitate muslim ladies for you to properly enjoy.
Thank you
LeftisruiningCanada says
More than 99.9% of muslims have no idea what real morality is, since they depend on the example of a murdering savage who got excited by a little girl.
He also gave over 9000 ways for the average muslim man to have sex whenever he wants. His followers went on to devise even more devious ways for sex, especially by calling what we in the West term ‘prostitution’, a “marriage”.
Ibrahim the Mithrist Muslim Man, knows all of this, but would rather vomit out more hatred against the white man than face the facts of his own degenerate belief system.
LeftisruiningCanada says
I can prove that islam is based on Mithraism, and that mohammad was simply a recasting of Mithra to fool poor simple desert dwelling arabs who wouldn’t have known a prophet from a camels rear end.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Leftruinigcanada, Prove it to me so that i can evaluate and verify the authorities and evidence you could have relied upon to See if they can sustain your assertion.
you have not been able to discredit the authorities i relied upon to show that christianity as It is today evolved from pagan doctrines,essentially mithraism. Thé authors of those works i cited are experts on history of religions. Thé only reason why you disagree, as you stated, is because they left pagan christianity, which is ad hominem fallacy.
LeftisruiningCanada says
” Thé authors of those works i cited are experts on history of religions”
No, they aren’t Ibrahim. I’ve given you links detailing their background before but you ignored them. Besides, you never gave any arguments from any of them for us to look at, you just said “here, read this book”. The authors have no understanding of Christianity as can be easily seen from the voluminous errors they make in even the most basic of doctrines.
I’ve gone over this with you, but every time i bother writing something, you ignore it and run away to other parts, far far away from something that might require you to concentrate on something other than your hatred for the West.
Really though, you know your filthy evil devil islam is filthy evil of mithraist devils written by satan dressed in body of man mohammad who raped little girls for evil devil worship then was taking of heads from gentle Jewish peoples with pleasure for their women and children who was taken for slaves and all kinds of evil practices like XXXXxX and XXXXing with their XXXXXX then taking their gold and treasures to use for evil purposes upon other peoples for devil evil, commanded by their mithraist koran full of evidence of devils writing while pretending for to be god, when everyone knows that only filthy thieves burn people alive for money but evil usa and vile zionist masters only love money and kill for money, but this doesn’t make sense i won’t devil think evil about, devil, it, mithra, anymore. trumpdevil!
tony wilson says
Ok, whats wrong with this? Given the HIV, STDs, hey who hasn’t got Chlamydia There is a lot of sense in this ruling, as for the gay brigade well I do believe G-d made Adam And Eve
Yours
Tony Wilson