There is indeed a lack of understanding of Islam in Washington, but not in the way King Abdullah is claiming.
Abdullah said: “It is not a religion of hate. We as Muslims believe in Jesus Christ as the Messiah. We believe in the Holy Virgin Mother. We believe in the Bible and the Torah, and I think this is the way that all of us were brought up. When we all greet each other as Arabs and Muslims, we say, ‘As-salamu alaykum’ — peace be unto you,” claiming that this phrase was “the basis of Islam.”
The King must know that none of that negates the presence of these passages in the Qur’an, or the doctrines of war that all mainstream sects and schools of Islamic jurisprudence have derived from them:
2:191-193: “And kill them wherever you come upon them, and drive them out from where they drove you out; persecution is worse than slaughter. But fight them not by the Holy Mosque until they should fight you there; then, if they fight you, kill them — such is the recompense of unbelievers, but if they give over, surely Allah is all-forgiving, all-compassionate. Fight them until there is no persecution and the religion is Allah’s; then if they give over, there shall be no enmity save for evildoers.”
4:89: “They wish that you should disbelieve as they disbelieve, and then you would be equal; therefore do not take friends from among them, until they emigrate in the way of Allah; then, if they turn their backs, seize them and kill them wherever you find them; do not take for yourselves any one of them as friend or helper.”
5:33: “This is the recompense of those who fight against Allah and His Messenger, and hasten about the earth to do corruption there: they shall be killed, or crucified, or their hands and feet shall be struck off on opposite sides; or they shall be exiled from the land. That is a degradation for them in this world; and in the world to come awaits them a mighty chastisement.”
8:12: “When your Lord was revealing to the angels, ‘I am with you; so confirm the believers. I shall cast terror into the hearts of the unbelievers; so strike the necks, and strike every finger of them!”
8:39: “Fight them, till there is no persecution and religion is all for Allah; then if they give over, surely Allah sees the things they do.”
8:60: “Make ready for them whatever force and strings of horses you can, to strike terror into the enemy of Allah and your enemy, and others besides them that you know not; Allah knows them. And whatever you spend in the way of Allah shall be repaid you in full; you will not be wronged.”
9:5: “Then, when the sacred months are over, kill the idolaters wherever you find them, and take them, and confine them, and lie in wait for them at every place of ambush. But if they repent, and perform the prayer, and pay the alms, then let them go their way; Allah is All-forgiving, All-compassionate.”
9:29: “Fight those who believe not in Allah and the Last Day and do not forbid what Allah and His Messenger have forbidden, and do not practice the religion of truth, even if they are of the People of the Book — until they pay the jizya with willing submission and feel themselves subdued.”
9:111: “Allah has bought from the believers their selves and their possessions against the gift of Paradise; they fight in the way of Allah; they kill, and are killed; that is a promise binding upon Allah in the Torah, and the Gospel, and the Koran; and who fulfils his covenant truer than Allah? So rejoice in the bargain you have made with Him; that is the mighty triumph.”
9:123: “O believers, fight the unbelievers who are near to you; and let them find in you a harshness; and know that Allah is with the godfearing.”
47:4: “When you meet the unbelievers, strike their necks, then, when you have made wide slaughter among them, tie fast the bonds; then set them free, either by grace or ransom, till the war lays down its loads. So it shall be; and if Allah had willed, He would have avenged Himself upon them; but that He may try some of you by means of others. And those who are slain in the way of Allah, He will not send their works astray.”
So is the King kidding himself, or trying to kid us? Note also that he says this: “We all want better future for our children and their children. For them to feel isolated, that’s the danger.” So don’t take any steps to stop jihad terrorism, because they will make Muslims feel “isolated,” and that will fuel jihad terrorism. Got it? Think I’m exaggerating? Then look at this: Hamas-linked CAIR is calling upon Los Angeles to reject the “Countering Violent Extremism,” because it supposedly “targets the Muslim community and stigmatizes them as inherently suspect under the false premise that Muslims are more prone to violence than other religious or ethnic groups.” See? It makes them feel “isolated.” Don’t do that, and all will be well, says the King.
“King of Jordan: ‘Maybe there’s a lack of understanding of Islam’ in Washington,” by Olivia Beavers, The Hill, February 4, 2018:
King Abdullah II of Jordan in a new interview said he believes Islam is not fully understood within both the halls of Congress and the walls of the White House when asked about President Trump’s rhetoric about the religion.
“Whether I’m in Washington in the Congress or with the administration, I think maybe there’s a lack of understanding of Islam,” the Jordanian leader said in an interview that aired Sunday on CNN’s “GPS with Fareed Zakaria.”
The king defended the religion, saying the foundations of Islam are the same moral virtues seen in other religions like Christianity and Judaism.
“It is not a religion of hate. We as Muslims believe in Jesus Christ as the Messiah. We believe in the Holy Virgin Mother. We believe in the Bible and the Torah, and I think this is the way that all of us were brought up,” he told Zakaria.
“When we all greet each other as Arabs and Muslims, we say, ‘As-salamu alaykum’ — peace be unto you,” he added, describing the frequently uttered phrases as “the basis of Islam.”
The Jordan leader acknowledged that “fringe groups” and civil wars have created a series of problems and challenges, but he suggested that most Muslims are fighting against the extremists alongside other religions.
“This is a civil war between all of us, and those that, not only consider us heretics, but consider Christians, Jews and other religions all heretics, and should be put to the sword,” he said, describing it as a “fight inside of Islam.”
“The problem that we have now, and maybe the lack of understanding, is that it is — it’s us Muslims working side by side with Christians, Jews and other religions to fight this scourge, which is still going to be a long-term problem,” he continued.
The king said such efforts could be undermined across the globe if the Muslim population feels “victimized and isolated,” because that would create “a breeding ground of contempt.”
“We all want better future for our children and their children. For them to feel isolated, that’s the danger. And the rhetoric that moves in that direction is not a good story for any of us,” he argued….
Andy says
Muslim immigration means more Islamic terrorism
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQQhkDXpHDE
Andy says
“Maybe there’s a lack of understanding of Islam” in Sweden, Europe, UK, Canada, Australia, America, where Islam rears its ugly head!!! No there is no misunderstanding buddy, We all know exactly what Islam is all about!!!
People are willingly destroying our Western Judeo-Christian Heritage.
Sweden Has Handed Over Its Cultural Heritage to An Uneducated Foreigner
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ygBVTQTTt48
Andy says
The ABSOLUTE STATE OF AMERICAN DEMOCRACY
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WM_guk9LC8g
mortimer says
ARE ALL THE MUFTIS and ALL THE GRAND IMAMS WRONG ABOUT HATE IN ISLAM?
ISLAM HAS A DOCTRINE OF HATE: ‘AL BARAA’ = Islamic Apartheid, Shunning
The hatred of Kafirs ‘for the sake of Allah’…Al Bughoud or Al Mu’adaat (hatred) is the opposite of Al Muwalaat (love of Muslims), it is:
– To Hate
– To keep distance from
– To be enemy to
– To desert
– To decline to help
– To disrespect
– To put down
– Not to ally with
– Not to support
Allah ordered Muslims to have Baraa (to be cleansed) from the kufaar and from kufr and shirk.
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-Imam Abdul-Latif ibn Abdur-Rahman Rahimullah said, “It is not possible for someone to realize Tawheed and act upon it, and yet not be HOSTILE against the mushrikeen. So anyone who isn’t HOSTILE against the mushrikeen, then it cannot be said that he acts upon Tawheed nor that he realizes it.” [ad-Durar as-Saniyyah 8/167]
-“The doctrine of al Walaa wal Baraa is the REAL IMAGE for the actual practice of this faith.” – source “Al Walaa wal Baraa According to the Aqeedah of the Salaf”, by Sheikh Muhammad Saeed al Qatani, authoritative Saudi Sharia lawyer and imam at the Abu Bakr and Al Furqan Mosques in Mecca. – https://islamfuture.wordpress.com/2009/08/20/al-wala-wal-bara-according-to-the-aqeedah-of-the-salaf-parts-123/
-Shaykh Ahmad ibn ‘Atiq said:
“There isn’t in the Book of Allah the Exalted – after the issue concerning the obligation of tawheed and the forbiddance of its opposite – any issue which has as so many proofs, nor so clearly explained, than the issue of al-walaa’ and al-baraa’.”
Examples of al-Baraa from historic figures:
– from Sufi scholar Ahmad Sirhindi (1564-1624): “The honour of Islam lies in INSULTING kufr and kafirs. One who respects the kafirs dishonours the Muslims… The real purpose of levying jiziya on them is to HUMILIATE them to such an extent that they may not be able to dress well and to live in grandeur. They should constantly remain TERRIFIED and TREMBLING. It is intended to hold them under CONTEMPT and to uphold the honour and might of Islam.”
– from ibn Taymiyya, “Book of Emaan”: “… true believers show ANIMOSITY and HATRED towards disbelievers and NEVER support them.”
– from Umar Sulayman ‘Abd-Allaah al-Ashqar, “Belief in Allah”: “The Muslim should regard the Kuffaar as ENEMIES and HATE them because of their kufr, just as he hates their kufr (disbelief) itself.”
– from [Chap.iv] “The Islaamic Concept of al-Walaa’ wal-Baraa’” by Khalid El-Gharib: “… to SHOW ENMITY to those who show enmity to Allaah and His Messenger”.
(Note: Muslims are to visibly demonstrate their ENMITY or HATRED towards the kufaar)
– from a lecture given by Sheikh Abdullah al-Faisal (H.A.): “The implication of al-Baraa is that one HATES for the sake of Allah (SWT)…Al-Baraa means to recognize who your enemies are and to HATE them and EXTERMINATE them in their Endeavour to get rid of your Deen, al-Islam…Al-Baraa is to HATE the people who propagate Baatil (falsehood)—the Muslim should HATE them and (at least desire to) KILL them when the time comes.”
(Note: not ‘if the time comes’, but ‘WHEN the time comes.)
– “Killing a Kafir who is fighting you is OK. Killing a Kafir for any reason (i.e. criticism of Islam), you can say, it is OK – even if there is NO REASON for it. You can poison, ambush and kill non-believers. You must have a stand with your heart, with your tongue, with your money, with your hand, with your sword, with your Kalashnikov. Don’t ask shall I do this, just do it.”Abu Hamza al-Masri (Egyptian born British Cleric)
– “As a Muslim, I must have hatred for anything non-Islam” – Anjem Choudary
Peter says
The abridged version is even more telling.
” As a Muslim, I must have hatred “
gravenimage says
All true, Mortimer. Fine post.
mortimer says
Hello KING ABDULLAH… UNDERSTANDING ISLAM … SACRED HATE TOWARDS KAFIRS…
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b4ZJKusgH_A
mortimer says
Muslims must HATE KAFIRS ‘for the sake of Allah’ … Oh THAT hate!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOKl_FEa-4Q&t=96s
IQ al Rassooli says
Dear King
You know very well -as ALL of us on JW – that although Jesus is mentioned in Muhammad’s Quran, he is most definitely NOT as the Messiah Son of God but as a prophet who at the End of Time will come back as a MUSLIM to utterly DESTROY Christianity
Most relevant of all dear King, Islam is most assuredly NOT a Religion but a CULT; the Cult of Muhammad especially since the god of Muslims is Allah who is most definitely NOT the same as the God of Jesus Moses and Abraham because Allah was and is the NAME of the supreme rock god of Pagan Arabia centuries before Muhammad metamorphosed him into the God of the Bible
To prove my point, I am more than happy to give any of your charities the sum of $200,000 if you can point out to us Infidels/ Kuffar/ non Muslims a SINGLE operative verse in Muhammad’s Quran that shows ANY Compassion and Mercy towards us Unbelievers!
I shall not hold my breath for an answer but would love to have one if at all possible
Yours Sincerely
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DTuFA1fQ-yg&feature=youtu.be&a
IQ al Rassooli
Kafir & Proud!
http://www.alrassooli.com
JawsV says
Islam’s a religion. A BAD religion. The most vile and reprehensible religion on the planet.
Shan says
Anyone who doesn’t understand Islam needs to read this!!!! Excerpted from Dr. Peter Hammond’s book: Slavery, Terrorism and Islam
Islam is not a religion, nor is it a cult. In its fullest form, it is a complete, total, 100% system of life. Islam has religious, legal, political, economic, social, and military components. The religious component is a beard for all of the other components.
Islamization begins when there are sufficient Muslims in a country to agitate for their religious privileges.
When politically correct, tolerant, and culturally diverse societies agree to Muslim demands for their religious privileges, some of the other components tend to creep in as well..
Here’s how it works:
As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens.
It is a trick.
United States — Muslim 0.6%
Australia — Muslim 1.5%
Canada — Muslim 1.9%
China — Muslim 1.8%
Italy — Muslim 1.5%
Norway — Muslim 1.8%
At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic
minorities and disaffected groups, often with major
recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is
happening in:
Denmark — Muslim 2%
Germany — Muslim 3.7%
United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7%
Spain — Muslim 4%
Thailand — Muslim 4.6%
From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population.
For example, they will push for the introduction of halal food (clean by Islamic standards), thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims.They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply.
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government
to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law.
The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions.
In Paris, we are already seeing car-burning. Any non muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections.
After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues. Think what is going on in Turkey now, after the so-called coupe attempt.
At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks,
From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia Law as a weapon, and Jizya, the tax placed on infidels.
After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent
jihad, some state-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim.
“The Immigration and Nationality Act passed June 27, 1952 revised the laws relating to immigration, naturalization, and nationality for the United States. That act, which became Public Law 414, established both the law and the intent of Congress regarding the immigration of Aliens to the US and remains in effect today. Among the many issues it covers, one in particular, found in Chapter 2 Section 212, (28), (F) is the prohibition of entry to the US if the Alien belongs to an organization seeking to overthrow the government of the United States by ‘force, violence, or other unconstitutional means.’ This, by its very definition, rules out Islamic immigration to the United States. Islamic immigration to the US would be prohibited under this law because the Koran, Sharia Law and the Hadith all require complete submission to Islam, which is antithetical to the US government, the Constitution, and to the Republic. All Muslims who attest that the Koran is their life’s guiding principal subscribe to submission to Islam and its form of government. Whether Islam is a religion is immaterial because the law states that Aliens who are affiliated with any “organization” that advocates the overthrow of our government are prohibited.”
Can a Muslim be a good American?
Theologically – no, because his allegiance is to Allah.
Religiously – no, because no other religion is accepted by His Allah except Islam (Qur’an 2:256).
Scripturally – no, because his allegiance is to the five Pillars of Islam and the Qur’an.
Geographically – no, because his allegiance is to Mecca, to which he turns in prayer five times a day.
Socially – no, because his allegiance to Islam forbids him to make friends with Christians or Jews.
Politically – no, because he must submit to the mullahs (spiritual leaders) who teach the annihilation of Israel and the destruction of America, the great Satan.
Domestically – no, because he is instructed to marry four Women and beat his wife when she disobeys him (Qur’an 4:34).
Intellectually – no, because he cannot accept the American Constitution since it is based on Biblical principles and he believes the Bible to be corrupt.
Philosophically – no, because Islam, Muhammad, and the Qur’an does not allow freedom of religion and expression. Democracy and Islam cannot co-exist! Every Muslim government is either dictatorial or autocratic.
Spiritually – no, because when we declare ‘one nation under God,’ we are referring to the Christian’s God and not Allah.
They obviously cannot be both ‘good’ Muslims and good Americans/Canadians; they cannot and will not integrate into the great melting pot of America.
The religious war is bigger than we know or understand. Muslims everywhere have said they will destroy us from within
Post an pass this on
Savvy Kafir says
Thanks for that, Shan!
abad says
The best post ever and 100% spot on!
dsinc says
Thanks Shan, will pass it on.
A persecuted Christian says
Outstanding post
Musalmaanmasala says
Fantastic Shan. Very true. Its happening NOW and political leaders are being blind and deaf. When they awake it may be too late as this cancer called Islam will have spread too far to be excised and destroyed.
gravenimage says
Thanks for reposting that, Shan.
Anas says
Shan everything u say is 100% fake. As a muslim i know that Islam forbidden to beat wife
If u wanted to understand islam read full Qur’an not just copy paste some texts from other sites
In Quran everything is written is for a reason and that reason is clearly mention in it and Quran never tells us to beat our wives
Half knowledge is dangerous and those who believe that their half knowledge is enough to understand a complete religion is the same as read one chapter from book and think that they understand the whole book are the biggest fools
StellaSaidSo says
Anas,
It is YOU who needs to read ‘full Qur’an’, not Shan.
The Qur’an specifically gives Muslims permission to beat their wives. Look it up.
Mark Swan says
King Abdullah II of Jordan Knows full well how Islam works—he is up to his eyeballs in it.
Anne Smith says
Actually King Abdullah is an enlightened ruler and is doing the best for his impoverished country. Jordan does not have oil and is struggling for sufficient water. He has taken a lead role in fighting against ISIS and is worthy of praise for this.
King Abdullah has an English mother and was trained at Sandhurst. He is very westernised in many ways and we should be looking to people like him for the future, you will never eradicatge Islam but perhaps a better form can be institutionalised in countries like his.
I believe that King Abdullah, like his father Hussein, is subject to fatwas and the threat of murder by the hard liners. Let us hope he can continue to improve his country and bring about more stability.
PRCS says
He’s in a tough spot, Anne.
If he were to even suggest a “reinterpretation” of Qur’an (and Sunn’ah), I imagine that full-fledged civil war would break out there.
gravenimage says
Anne, things are pretty bad in Jordan–just not as bad as under ISIS. How low are our standards supposed to be?
Also, having a Westerner as a parent or having been educated in the West *does not* guarantee that a Muslim is “moderate”.
Here’s some antisemitism from him:
“Jordan’s king says Amman preventing ‘Judaization’ of holy sites in Jerusalem”
https://www.timesofisrael.com/jordans-king-says-amman-preventing-judaization-of-holy-sites-in-jerusalem/
And here he is, saying that Western recognition of Jerusalem as Israel’s capital would be responsible for Jihad terror and would damage the fictive “Palestinian” peace process:
“Jordan’s King Abdullah Warned U.S.: Moving Embassy Could Strengthen Mideast Terror Groups
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/.premium-jordan-s-king-warned-u-s-moving-embassy-could-fuel-terror-1.5627495
There are lots of other bits of ugliness I could cite.
PRCS says
it’s a religion–to them.
And a threat to everyone else so long as it is.
LeftisruiningCanada says
There is always so much fog around the word ‘religion’…
Champ says
“You know very well -as ALL of us on JW – that although Jesus is mentioned in Muhammad’s Quran, he is most definitely NOT as the Messiah Son of God but as a prophet who at the End of Time will come back as a MUSLIM to utterly DESTROY Christianity.”
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True, IQ. Of course muslims don’t mention this *fact* up front; instead, they would have non-muslims think that they see Jesus the same way that Christians do. But upon a closer examination of their beliefs the ugly truth is revealed.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Low IQ, you are just an ignorant fool. The King is saying even though muslims reject pagan doctrines líke Godman and begotten son of God in christian Bible and lies in jewish scriptures, we can still work towards peaceful co-existance.
gravenimage says
The vile Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
Low IQ, you are just an ignorant fool. The King is saying even though muslims reject pagan doctrines líke Godman and begotten son of God in christian Bible and lies in jewish scriptures, we can still work towards peaceful co-existance.
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What would this “peaceful co-existance” look like?
Ibrahim itace muhammed has affirmed that Muslims can rape, rob, and mass slaughter any Infidels who do not submit to Islam–so this “peaceful co-existance” could only take place under bloody Muslim conquest and brutal Shari’ah law.
All non-Muslims would be abused dhimmis.
As for the Jews, they would not even have that to look forward to–Ibrahim itace muhammed hsa said that he looks forward to taking part in the genocide of the Jews.
Yokel says
@gravenimage
I think we can see what “peaceful coexistence” looks like in Pakistan amongst many other places. I know for a fact that Pakistani Christians must smuggle new converts from Islam to far away places in the country so that the death squads from the mosque will not find them. In the West it is just sanitised into “honour killing”.
mortimer says
graven, the TAQIYYA of Ibrahim is not even GOOD, CONVINCING taqiyya.
Whom is he trying to fool here? We have read the original, primary texts of Islam, the canonical commentaries and interpretations of the JURIDICAL CONSENSUS of Islam and the FATWAS of modern sheikhs.
They CONSISTENTLY teach the UNIVERSAL duty of JIHAD WARFARE against the HATED, dirty kufaar ‘for the sake of Allah’ and Ibrahim will not deny ONE WORD of what I have written.
gravenimage says
Ture, Yokel and Mortimer.
abad says
Ibrahim, did you meet your daily quota for today??
don vito says
-30
Champ says
The imbecile wrote:
“…we can still work towards peaceful co-existence.”
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“ibe” can’t state one kind word about Christians or Jews, so he has a loooong way to go toward a “peaceful co-existence” with anyone.
gravenimage says
He believes that “peaceful coexistence” can only take place when we are under the Muslim heel.
Westman says
There will be no peaceful coexistence with Islam until it rejects the annihilation of the Jews within its eschatology. Particularly, the Islam doctrine that Jesus will be involved in it.
Before you lose a gasket, Ibrahim, be advised that I am Agnostic, yet, very well versed in Christian doctrines. Any outside observer would need to be uninformed or short on intelligence to think that Islam and freedom are NOT on a collision course.
Personally, I think Islam is going to suffer in the West, with its own irrelevance, much like a dog that chases a car, and is confused when the car stops. Looking at the West and what it has is completely different to being there and discovering that it cannot be had by demand. Sooner or later, many Muslims will realize Islam is in the way of their own personal progress. There are already indications that more than 40% of Muslims in Europe have stopped practicing the religion.
The dividing will mostly be along lines of talent and ability. Those that can make progress will leave the others behind in ghettos. Does anyone really think Barack Obama, Colin Powell, Travis Smiley, Whoopie Goldberg, and Oprah live in the ghetto? Do you think they are actively helping the “brothers” out of the ghetto? When was the last time you saw the acronym NAACP? What you see now is SLPC and they are only interested the current rage that promises bucks. Muslims today, another cause, tomorrow.
This is Islam’s future in the West, particularly the US: success for the talented, misery and jealousy for the remainder. Not because of some bias – It will be because the West is still, largely, a meritocracy.
There will be no jizya and no zakat from the unbelievers. If you think that’s impossible, wait for the economic collapse in the EU and observe the aftermath.
gravenimage says
Westman wrote:
There will be no peaceful coexistence with Islam until it rejects the annihilation of the Jews within its eschatology. Particularly, the Islam doctrine that Jesus will be involved in it.
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Westman, Ibrahim itace muhammed has said that he looks forward to taking part in the genocide of the Jews in the last days.
RichardL says
The King is an islamic liar: islam does neither believe that Mary was a Virgin and Jesus‘ mother nor that she was holy because she was the mother of God.
James Whitney says
Islam does recognize Mary as the virgin mother of Jesus (see Qur’an 3:45-51), but denies Jesus as the Son of God (see Qur’an 9:30). This passage further says that anyone who believes Jesus is the Son of God is accursed.
gravenimage says
True, James.
James Whitney says
In Sunni Islam Jesus does indeed return as a profit who will convert the world to Islam, break crosses, and kill the Jews. This certainly is not the Jesus of Christianity. However, in contrast, Shiites believe that end times will be marked by the return of the 12th Imam.
The Qur’an also denies Jesus was ever crucified.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
James whitney, yes Islam rejects the myth of crucifiction and pagan mithraist doctrines of Godman and begotten son of God not taught by jesus
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed here affirms that the role of the Muslim “Jesus”–really, “Isa”–is not to save mankind, but to murder Jews and Christians.
And he himself has said how he looks forward to taking part in the genocide of the Jews in the last days.
What a vicious, bloody creed Islam is.
Kerygma says
This is precisely what I wanted to say to this (deceptively?) ignorant ‘king’!? Good on you. I’ll help with your $ offer…..because its a very safe proposal.
Richard says
King Abdullah is in a very difficult position. Like all non-extremist rulers of mostly muslim countries he controls the religion within Jordan with an iron fist. Islamic preachers are only allowed to give “government approved ” sermons. Remember the Jordanian airforce’s efforts against IS.
He knows perfectly well that Islam does not easily stay in the non-violent state
He is desperately trying to retain the moderate status of Islam in Jordan – because otherwise he and his family and his regime will suffer the fate of the Shah.
This is not a genuine attempt to fool anyone about Islam – it is a cry for help.
Mark Swan says
Yes Richard, I agree with what you have written here.
gravenimage says
King Abdullah is still slinging Taqiyya here. The fact that things could be even worse in Jordan does not change that.
jule says
The ONLY way Washington can see what it really is to read the Qur/an/Hadiths for themselves but I hear it even very hard to them to read bills before passing them. I think they need special Classes to help them and not opinions or manipulative wishes from Countries who want to use us.
JawsV says
American Lisa Halaby’s son. I’ve always wondered why she married a Muslim (Hussein).
Abdullah means “Slave of Allah.” Yeah, we can see that.
Anne Smith says
He is not Llisa Halaby’s son. He is the son of an Englishwoman who came from Ipswich, Suffolkk, UK and was given the title Princess Muna when she married King Hussein.
StellaSaidSo says
You beat me to the draw, Anne!
Antoinette Avril Gardiner, aka Princess Muna al-Husseini, b Suffolk, England, 1941, m King Hussein of Jordan 1961, son Abdullah b 1962, div 1972.
King Hussein m Lisa Halaby in 1978.
gravenimage says
You’re right, Anne and Stella. Lisa Halaby was the king’s fourth wife.
Guy Forester says
Maybe he would like to talk about the guys that offed his grandfather and the ones that tried to off his father. I will give him some hints:
1. They were not Jewish, not even Mossad.
2. They weren’t the local Christians.
3. You do not have a Buddhist or Hindu population.
Does that help, your highness?
PRCS says
Foreign Presbyterians?
Strangerinastrangeland says
Well done. My thoughts exactly.
gravenimage says
WATT1027, PRCS and Strangerinastrangeland were being sarcastic.
PRCS says
Note–from the Clarion Project’s “CAIR” article:
“The Council on American Islamic Relations (CAIR) is pushing the Los Angeles mayor’s office to refuse funding from the federal government to implement a Countering Violent Extremism Program (CVE).
The program – which comes with a grant for $425,000 – was offered to Mayor Eric Garcetti from the Department of Homeland Security.
What could possibly be wrong with an anti-extremism program?
CAIR objects, in principle, to the concept of CVE on three grounds:
“CVE is based on a flawed theory that claims there are reliable “indicators” for predicting if individuals are on a path to radicalization”
“CVE targets the Muslim community and stigmatizes them as inherently suspect under the false premise that Muslims are more prone to violence than other religious or ethnic groups”
“CVE chills First Amendment protected activities such as attending a mosque, participating in activism, and expressing political opinions”
What could possibly be wrong with an anti-extremism program?
Only that the whole concept whitewashes the core issue: Islam (the ideology) and it’s practitioners (Muslims)
CVE? This isn’t about Basque separatists.
PRCS says
Sorry, Guy,–that should have been a stand alone post.
Guy Forester says
Thanks PCRS, but since we are here:
Dear CAIR;
Please discuss with us the following and clarify:
1. How many Catholic nuns flew airplanes into the WTC buildings?
2. How many times have Jews hijacked airplanes and murdered muslims during these hijackings?
3. Tell us about the Hindus that massacred 15 people in San Bernardino.
4. Tell us about the Buddhist that drove a truck through the crowds in Nice.
5. Tell us just who it was that murdered the Charlie Hebdo staff, took over the Jewish Market, threw the Jewish lady out of a window, and shot the 8 year old girl in France.
6. Explain to us who it is that has been setting bombs and doing drive overs lately.
7. How many atheists have beheaded coworkers lately.
Let us know CAIR, and Mayor Garcetti, when you would like to discuss these topics in public so we can all hear the answers.
Hey PCRS, do you have crickets in your computer? I thought I heard some.
🙂
PRCS says
You, too, eh.
gravenimage says
Spot on, Guy.
Gjallarhornet says
Ehr … no. The problem is not a “lack of understanding of islam in the West”. The problem for King Abdullah of Jordan and islamic despots all over the middle east is that we ARE starting to understand the nature of the beast. And it’s not pretty.
What he wants is not more understanding of islam, but *less*. If would be preferable for the islamic world if we just stayed clueless.
gravenimage says
Spot on.
Mark Swan says
Absolutely Gjallarhornet
StellaSaidSo says
Abdullah is in a difficult situation. Every so often he has to be seen to be talking tough to the kuffar, lest some if his ‘friends’ get the wrong idea about the extent of his commitment to ‘Allah’.
Gjallarhornet says
I do think you are right. Jordan is not one of the muslim countries I have visited personally. But from what I’ve been told and what I’ve read it is safe enough, due to the kings reign and his western leanings. So you can stroll about and meet lots of people who can’t do you anything, but definitely would, had they had the chance.
StellaSaidSo says
It’s a balancing act for Abdullah. The 21stC vs the 7thC, the East vs the West. Abdullah was educated at Oxford University, Royal Military College, Sandhurst, and later Georgetown University. He is half-English by birth, and served in the British Army prior to returning to Jordan to take up a post in the Jordanian armed forces. His outlook is modern and Western, and, unlike other leaders in the Islamic world, he seems genuinely committed to improving the lives of his people. Unfortunately, Abdullah is surrounded by ‘friends’ who are potential enemies; in order to keep his head attached to his shoulders, he must read from their script occasionally.
Jack Holan says
It’s nver them ((Muslims). It’s always Jews Christians others. They layclaim to all prophets all lands and all Peoples. They are Peaceful and think thus far correctly that we are Simpletons like the masses they rule.
Gerald Mucci says
He sounds like George Bush and Barack Obama rolled into one. He is pulling the “taqiyya” crap as deftly as any other Muslim. The suit and tie makes him appear very Western, doesn’t it?
Gjallarhornet says
Is he talking about the same religion that claims Jerusalem to itself because a war lord made prophet hiked a ride there, more or less – they are not even sure if it actually was Jerusalem – on a nag, in a dream, 1300 years ago?
For THIS they kill. So it seems it dosen’t take much.
This ride on Buraq the happy horse is their sole reason to claim the city. Just stand to reason it dosen’t fly anymore. If you want to take a swing at Trump – find something else.
CRUSADER says
US State Dept won’t recognize designating Jerusalem as capital of Israel,
and wouldn’t issue passports saying so….
Deep State runs State.
Guy Forester says
Crusader: That decision was the President’s purview, so the point is now moot. Congress passed a resolution recognizing Jerusalem as Israel’s capitol during the Clinton era. As for passports, our passports would only indicate Washington DC as our capitol. We have no say in what other countries put in theirs.
In other words, the BHO, GWB, and Clinton leftovers at state can scream and yell all they want and even cry in their beer. If the DJT says move the embassy, it will be moved.
gravenimage says
You are right about Congress during the Clinton era.In fact, both Clinton and George W. Bush seriously talked about moving the US Embassy there.
Those acting as if recognizing Jerusalem as the capital of Israel now is somehow completely outrageous are being disingenuous.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Do your US passports say where they were issued?
Veracious_one says
Muhammad could not have flown to Jerusalem…at that time it was not the farthest mosque…
Emilie Green says
“We as Muslims believe in Jesus Christ as the Messiah. We believe in the Holy Virgin Mother. We believe in the Bible and the Torah, and I think this is the way that all of us were brought up.
What?
“Bridge for sale. Bridge for sale”
Joe says
If they believe these things, then why don’t they become Christians? They say that the Bible constantly misquotes Jesus. Muslim think that 90% of what the Biblical Jesus said is a lie.
For example, Jesus said to love your neighbor. But Mohammed said that Jesus actually said to hate your neighbor.
In another case, Jesus said turn the other cheek. But Mohammed said that Jesus actually said to kill them where you find them.
The Muslim Jesus believes in all the same hate, death, and insults as Mohammed.
For the Muslims, only the name “Jesus” is the same. All the teachings of Jesus about love are nonsense. They claim that Jesus was full of hatred (like Mohammed). That is how Jesus can be the Messiah and Muslim.
gravenimage says
Yes–Muslims claim that the Torah and the Gospel have been “corrupted”, and were originally as vicious as the Qur’an.
Anas says
Prophet Muhammad PBUH never say to hate ur neighbours
He is so good that a non-Muslim lady who throwed garbage on him daily but he said nothing and after some days that lady was sick and that’s she can’t able to throw garbage on him and prophet Muhammad PBUH
was thinking that why she didn’t throwing garbage on him and when Prophet Muhammad knows that she is sick Prophet Muhammad PBUH went to her house to see her
He was so kind he don’t eat food but he make sure that his neighbour never slept hungry
These r only few works of him and he always said those who hurt their neighbour or behave badly with them will forever burn in fire of hell
This is Prophet Muhammad PBUH and if u don’t have any knowledge about him then don’t say bad thing about him. Intelligent persons never talk about anything unless they completely understand that thing
Take this as my advice or request…ur choice
StellaSaidSo says
‘Intelligent persons never talk about anything unless they completely understand that thing…’
In that case, you had better remain silent, Anas. Because your knowledge of the ‘prophet’ Mohammed is, at best, incomplete.
LeftisruiningCanada says
And yet he a pregnant woman stabbed to death in her own bed for saying things he didn’t like. So kind eh?
gravenimage says
King Abdullah of Jordan: “Maybe there’s a lack of understanding of Islam” in Washington
…………………………………….
What he means is that if enough Americans–President Trump, especially–swallowed his whitewash of Islam that there would be no efforts, not matter how watery, to keep out ravening Jihadists.
More:
“It is not a religion of hate. We as Muslims believe in Jesus Christ as the Messiah. We believe in the Holy Virgin Mother. We believe in the Bible and the Torah, and I think this is the way that all of us were brought up,” he told Zakaria.
…………………………………….
Let’s parse this, shall we? No, Muslims *don’t* consider Jesus to be the Savior–he is just another “prophet”. Worse, though, thye believe that the main role of Jesus–really, “Isa”–in the last days is to *slaughter Christians* who don’t become Muslims.
As for the Torah and Gospels, this is true–but he does not tell you that Muslims believe that Jews and Christians have deliberately “corrupted” their holy texts, and that the “Taurat” and “Injeel” were originally just as vicious as the Qur’an–and that things like the Gold Rule and a loving God did not exist.
More:
“When we all greet each other as Arabs and Muslims, we say, ‘As-salamu alaykum’ — peace be unto you,” he added, describing the frequently uttered phrases as “the basis of Islam.”
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Notice he doesn’t mention the fact that no Muslim is allowed to greet a “filthy Infidel” in this manner.
More:
The Jordan leader acknowledged that “fringe groups” and civil wars have created a series of problems and challenges, but he suggested that most Muslims are fighting against the extremists alongside other religions.
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Not really. All Muslims believe in the waging of violent Jihad to spread and enforce Islam. Does King Abdullah reject this? I doubt it.
More:
“This is a civil war between all of us, and those that, not only consider us heretics, but consider Christians, Jews and other religions all heretics, and should be put to the sword,” he said, describing it as a “fight inside of Islam.”
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Muslims will occasionally temporarily ally with Infidels to fight other Muslims to gain or maintain power–but these are alliances of convenience, and nothing more.
More:
“The problem that we have now, and maybe the lack of understanding, is that it is — it’s us Muslims working side by side with Christians, Jews and other religions to fight this scourge, which is still going to be a long-term problem,” he continued.
…………………………………….
It’s going to be long-term, all right, since this is a core part of Islam.
More:
The king said such efforts could be undermined across the globe if the Muslim population feels “victimized and isolated,” because that would create “a breeding ground of contempt.”
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In other words, If you Infidels notice there is a problem with violence in Islam and take steps to defend against it, then this will only create more Islamic violence, and it will all be your fault.
More:
“We all want better future for our children and their children. For them to feel isolated, that’s the danger. And the rhetoric that moves in that direction is not a good story for any of us,” he argued….
…………………………………….
More of the same…
PRCS says
As he knows the consequences for not toeing the party line (Islam), I think he’s playing both sides.
He can’t come right out and admit what Qur’an and Sunn’ah actually say–especially as it pertains to the kuffar.
gravenimage says
I don’t think he wants to, PRCS. This is pretty much straight-up Taqiyya. He is –like most Muslims–just enraged that President Trump is doing *anything* to defend against Jihad, not matter how scattered.
PRCS says
“All Muslims believe in the waging of violent Jihad to spread and enforce Islam. Does King Abdullah reject this? I doubt it.
Does King Abdullah reject this? I doubt it.”
But, we don’t know.
As RS stated (I believe), the only thing one can say about any Muslim–for sure–is that they’ve said the Shahada.
Unless he’s holding his cards really close to his vest, difficult to imagine that Zhudi Jasser believes in the waging of violent Jihad to spread and enforce Islam.
gravenimage says
PRCS, King Abdullah has done this kind of thing before:
“Jordan’s King: ‘False Perceptions of Islam and of Muslims Will Fuel the Terrorist Agenda'”
https://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/susan-jones/jordans-king-false-perceptions-islam-and-muslims-will-fuel-terrorist-agenda
“Adullah said he’s struck by the ‘lack of understanding of the true nature of Islam’ that he sees among many Western officials, think tanks, media and policymakers…
“When others exclude Muslims from fulfilling their role by prejudice or ignorance of what Islam is, or on the other hand when the outlaws of Islam, the khawarej, attempt to mislead some Muslims by deforming our religion through false teachings, our society’s future is put at risk.”
In other words, “misunderstanding Islam” is as bad as Jihad terrorism.
He then goes on–surprise, surprise–to blame the Isrealis…
CRUSADER says
PRCS,
Indeed, not all Muslims seek VIOLENT Jihad, but if they were to make a choice, they’d side with Islam winning — most likely through persuasion and demographics. That said, not all Muslims are truly Muslims 100%, and it seems that Irshad Manji and Zhudi Jasser aren’t 100% Muslims.
They would be more aligned with becoming Christians if they could wake up to that benefit.
Already they are apostate anyway, seeing that they seek the ever elusive “reform” of Islam!
From many sources, it is probably likely that King of Palestine, er, uh, Jordan is indeed playing both sides. He has to say and do enough to keep things from unraveling for his reign to keep existing, and he cares about his legacy and his heir…. Also, he is enough of a secularist and a Western sympathizer to not go full tilt for Islam either. He is in a very sticky situation.
But to hell with him. He isn’t really helping the cause. He is just keeping things Status Quo for the generally accepted Establishment and Globalist goals. He won’t recognize that his kingdom is primarily Palestine de facto. He hasn’t much in the way of resources. And he has to keep all those “refugees” from revolting. But from our perspective, who needs him! Better just to call things as they are, a spade a spade, as Trump dares to do — now and then…. Get to the core.
Disrupt the false notions. Get to where the truth can enlighten and eventually set us freer….
+++++++++
DEUS VULT
+++++++++
PRCS says
Yes, from our perspective–he’s whitewashing the truth.
But–as the first part of your post note: he’s in a very sticky situation–and does have to say and do enough to keep things from unraveling there.
gravenimage says
Zuhdi Jasser is such an outlier that he was expelled from his last Mosque, and has not been able to find another Mosque that will allow him to worship.
Note–not a Mosque that agrees with him on all matters, but just one that will allow him to join. Very telling.
LeftisruiningCanada says
“We as Muslims believe in Jesus Christ as the Messiah. We believe in the Holy Virgin Mother. We believe in the Bible and the Torah,”
Exactly GI, that this man would say these obvious lies tells us everything we need to know about his intentions.
They do believe in the Bible, by which i assume he means everything apart from the Torah, and the Torah itself, but only as figments of their imaginations, since they say that what we have now are totally altered versions of the ‘real’ ones.
There is exactly zero evidence for this of course.
gravenimage says
True, LeftisruiningCanada.
Jayell says
My edition of the Qu’ran is a Penguin paperback of no more than average size and thickness for a Penguin paperback and average-size typeface. I have several Bibles which are larger and at least three times thicker than the Qu’ran and printed with a smaller typeface. I haven’t got time to do a word count comparison, but I imagine the Bibles would exceed the Qu’ran by at least a factor of 10 if not much more. How do you condense all the wisdom and information any of those Bibles into an apparently economical paperback Qu’ran? Answer – by careful, honest, painstaking, intelligent scholarship, paying attention to ensure that the important details are included and the basic message and intentions of the original are reflected in the new book. Fortunately, my Qu’ran edition has an index, so I looked up important Christian references such as, say, the Beatitudes and the Parable of the Good Samaritan, which sum up the basic Christian philosophy best. I looked up as many keywords as possible, bearing in mind that if these muslims say they venerate Jesus, there will be some quotes or paraphrased quotes, or something along those lines at least.
There was absolutely NOTHING. Because this whole line of argument, along with the rest of islam, is a con trick. How should one expect a deluded, illiterate, dark-age, perverted criminal thug with half-baked fascist ambitions to have the academic integrity to possess the careful, honest, painstaking, intelligent scholarship to summarise and correctly apply all the foregoing available spiritual wisdom, especially if his only real motive is avaricious, totally dishonest political self-advancement? Does this King of Jordan not realise that? Does this King of Jordan also not realise that, on this part of the globe, we’ve looked at al his evidence and we DO realise that? And, even if HE is happy to be fooled by his own ignorant propaganda, we are not. Neither are we going to be fooled by HIM.
Wellington says
Yet another excellent decimation by you, gravenimage, of bogus arguments. You’re a master of precision in this respect and so my compliments once again.
As for King Abdullah, who on a daily basis is not a bad person anymore than Zuhdi Jasser and Irshad Manji are, he is arguably worse than someone like Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi because he gives cover to a very warped, deceitful and profoundly troubling belief system which is a mortal enemy of liberty. Better that all Muslims were in the al-Baghdadi mold because then all but the most dense (e.g., certain administrators at Stanford) would far more readily realize just how injurious Islam, all of it, is to our species.
Hope all is well with you, my friend, way over there on the West Coast. And so from the East Coast I wish you a good day. Now, I will watch the Super Bowl, though I do so under a kind of protest because the whole kneeling garbage is based overwhelmingly on a false premise. While I certainly wish black America well, the main problems that still exist with black America are overwhelmingly self-induced, like massive out-of-wedlock births, absent fathers, young black men killing other young black men in droves and the acceptance of that extra pernicious nonsense that what chiefly ails black America is a combination of the police and whitey’s fault. No, what chiefly ails black America is black America. So, no wonder too many black Americans have become Muslim (even one would be too many). Start with a false narrative and it’s all downhill from there, whether said narrative has its origins in the seventh century or our present one. But I digress. Take care, pal.
gravenimage says
Wellington, thanks for your kind words.
I agree with your points, save that King Abdullah–while perhaps being a good person in his personal life, I have no idea–mostly winks at Jordan’s shaky human rights record.
It is illegal to criticize the king himself. There is little freedom of speech of the press there.
And then there was this appalling story, which you may have heard about:
“On August 14, authorities detained writer Nahed Hattar after he posted a cartoon on his Facebook page critical of ISIS. The cartoon depicted an ISIS fighter in bed with two women ordering God to bring him wine. Authorities charged him with insulting religion under article 278 of the penal code. Authorities stated that Hattar’s arrest was intended to prevent defamation of religion. Hattar was later murdered on September 25 while entering an Amman court to attend a trial session.”
And this was for criticizing *ISIS*.
Women’s rights are pretty bad there as well.
I do have to say in his defense that other Muslim countries are worse–but God knows that is damning with faint praise.
I wanted to wish your team good luck–I know despite the shameful shenanigans at the NFL that you must be excited about seeing the Eagles in the Super Bowl. I know they are underdogs, but hope that just makes it more exciting!
Along with the Super Bowl, my husband and I will be watching such silliness as the Puppy Bowl, which is a tradition in itself at this point.
Wellington says
Gravenimage: Thanks for your reply. For the record, my team is the Steelers, though my dear wife’s team is indeed the Eagles. Since we know many friends in New England, one of whom in Maine I just talked to an hour ago, and who are diehard Patriots’ fans, I have decided to do something rare for me, i.e., engage in a substantial neutrality. I just hope for a good game and not a blow out either way (much more likely, of course, with the Patriots than the Eagles doing so but, who knows, anything could happen).
As for King Abdullah, he is in essence part (as you noted) of an overall problem, i.e., anyone defending Islam, whether Muslim or non-Muslim, commits an enormous error, whatever the motive. After all, there is no defense for iniquity, and if Islam is not iniquitous, then nothing is iniquitous. Of course you understand this, just as you understand most everything and which is why I esteem you as I do.
gravenimage says
Agree with you about King Abdullah, Wellington.
Sorry I got your team wrong.
CRUSADER says
Wellington, interesting that you’d mention Irshad Manji.
What would you say about her and her efforts?
Certainly, Irshad Manji would be pissed off at Robert Spencer, even though
she really should admire him for his “moral courage”. She would say that
he is contributing to the problem by making Muslims feel bad and that’s no
solution, since it sets 1 billion+ of the Islamic population against “The West”…
Wellington says
Manji believes in a fantasy version of Islam, CRUSADER, that does not exist and thus she gives cover to the worst religion of all time. She’s part of the problem and not part of any real solution. Might as well defend Nazism as defend Islam.
PRCS says
72 raisins.
gravenimage says
CRUSADER, Robert Spencer’s goal is not to make Muslims feel bad, but just to speak the truth.
Not sure why you put “moral courage” in sneer quotes–Spencer really does have this in abundance.
Here’s more on Irshad Manji:
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2007/01/fjordman-why-i-criticize-irshad-manji
I largely agree with Fjordman.
CRUSADER says
Graven,
All this is correct, but the mainstream public is buying what the Jordanian is selling,
as it is what the Establishment sells as status quo.
Look at how many tv commercials during the Super Bowl were all about KUMBAYA
and identity and equality, and Muslims were represented in a record 8 or 9 commercials!!!
CRUSADER says
And by the way, it was wonderful to see this Patriotic Themed Super Bowl.
Philadelphia and Boston. USA national symbol along with national flag. High Flying.
The Star Spangled Banner and America the Beautiful sung. Fly over by air force.
Problems mainly were legion in the tv commercials being so biased and liberally “open minded”
Imagery of Muslims are attempts to get audience used to seeing “them”….
Good, solid performance by a Pennsylvanian team, from the state which swung Trump’s way!
Also, the winning coach and QB praised God foremost. That was wonderful to witness.
Far better team than the poorly behaved Atlanta Falcons. Good thing Patriots won that one.
And that they beat the Muslim owned Jacksonville Jaguars this year.
Great to see a 99 year old fan of the Eagles since he was aged 13, or so, from when the team first formed in Philadelphia. He likely remembers the combined Steagles team of WW2….
gravenimage says
CRUSADER, you are right that all too many are happy to swallow this Taqiyya.
And yes–the Super Bowl was great.
Those clueless Islamophilic commercials, not so much. Toyota and Coke were especially bad. These ad people have no idea how many Muslims were instead dreaming of blowing up the Super Bowl.
“NFL TERROR TARGET Super Bowl security at an all-time high over fears of ISIS drone attack on US Bank Stadium in Minneapolis”
https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/5499095/super-bowl-security-isis-drone-attack-minneapolis/
R Russell says
Maybe now Trump has round him people who can see very well what Islam is about we will continue to see Trump call the Islamic bluff and start to set things straight.
Has Jordan said to anyone that Hamas has said their will be war with Israel ‘in a few days’? They want to blame it on Israel.
The war might or might not be true but Israel has just prevented bomb making materials and detonators from crossing the border into Gaza.
If the Arabs would stop trying to carry out the rules in the Hamas Charter, Israel wouldn’t need to retaliate.
CRUSADER says
Indeed. Israel is wonderfully covered in Alan Dershowitz’ book “The Case FOR Israel”….
Also….
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Guy Forester says
I suspect that Abdullah may be putting on the “I am a Muslim” act for a reason. As things look like they are going to get hot over there soon, Jordan will again be stuck in the middle. If they do not attack Israel, they are denounced as apostates and Zionists. When they give in to the pressure and attack Israel, they get their clocks cleaned.
Jordan is a cobbled together hell hole, poverty stricken, resource starved, poor excuse of a country. They get no respect from their Arab/Muslim neighbors, and the only ones that treat with any kind of dignity are the US, Israel, and to a degree the UK (who organized and trained their Arab Legion). If not for the above three, Jordan would have been annexed by one of their “neighbors” like Syria, long ago.
So, while I am sympathetic to his plight, the King is lecturing the wrong people. We are really his friends.
Learning islam says
the first biography of Muhammad, by the devout muslim Ibn Ishaq:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ibn_Ishaq
If you read the biography, you will understand why so-called “extremists” do what they do (they are copying Muhammad), and why so many muslims are leaving Islam now they are finding out the truth.
Muhammad orders his son-in-law Ali, to behead Al-Nadr bin al-Harith on page 136.
Muhammad says that those who follow him will be given paradise; those who refuse will be slaughtered and sent to hell on page 222
Muhammad affirms that those who do not follow him will be slaughtered
On page 222 (326 in the Arabic) of the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad:
Abu jahl said to them: “Muhammad alleges that if you follow him you will be kings of the Arabs and the Persians. Then after death you will be raised to gardens like those of the Jordan. But if you do not follow him you will be slaughtered, and when you are raised from the dead you will be burned in the fire of hell.” The apostle [Muhammad] came out to them with a handful of dust saying: “I do say that.”
Muhammad approves the stabbing of Uqba bin Abu Muayt on page 308.
Muhammad arranges the beheading of Kab bin al-Ashraf on page 364-9.
Muhammad personally beheads over 600 Jewish prisoners of war on page 464
Muhammad orders the torturing of treasurer of Khaybar tribe, Kinana on page 515
Islamic source texts say that Muhammad ordered the torture of a man in order to get hold of a treasure. We learn of that in the earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad, pages 511-517 (758-766 in the Arabic). https://archive.org/stream/TheLifeOfMohammedGuillaume/The_Life_Of_Mohammed_Guillaume#page/n279/mode/1up
The same pages in that earliest Muslim biography of Muhammad also tell us that after the torture, Muhammad had the man beheaded, and that later that night, or the next, Muhammad took into his private tent for consummation of “marriage” the tortured man’s widow, whose father and other male relatives Muhammad had just killed.
Muhammad orders the killing of Abdullah bin Katal’s and one of his singing-girls on page 550-1
Muhammad approves the murder of Asma bint Marwan on page 675-6.
Muhammad arranges the assassination of the old man Abu Afak on page 675.
Muhammad approves the murder of an old one-eyed Bedouin man, by Amr bin Umayya, one of his Jihadist thugs on page 674-5.
http://www.justislam.co.uk/images/Ibn%20Ishaq%20-%20Sirat%20Rasul%20Allah.pdf
Mohammed prophesied:
“this religion will split into seventy three; seventy two are in Hell and one is in Heaven…”
https://mohamedghilan.com/2011/11/10/my-ummah-will-split-into-73-sects-thats-it/
Mohammad made a prophesy about islam which is the following one:”he Messenger of Allah (Mohammed) observed: Verily Islam started as something strange and it would again revert (to its old position) of being strange just as it started, and it would recede between the two mosques just as the serpent crawls back into its hole.” [Sahih Muslim, Book 001, Number 0270.]. Please muslims study your sources. Come to YESHUA. (rSankara62 )
Learning islam says
Is terror really the evil opposite of what Islam is?
Islamic terroriste murdered Inocent people in name of islam and shouting alluhu akbar, but no, muslims are more worried about the image of Islam.
“We will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieve for what they have associated with Allah of which He had not sent down authority. And their refuge will be the Fire, and wretched is the residence of the wrongdoers.” (Qur’an 3:151)
“When your Lord inspired to the angels, ‘I am with you, so strengthen those who have believed. I will cast terror into the hearts of those who disbelieved, so strike upon the necks and strike from them every fingertip.’” (Qur’an 8:12)
“And prepare against them whatever you are able of power and of steeds of war by which you may terrify the enemy of Allah and your enemy and others besides them whom you do not know, whom Allah knows. And whatever you spend in the cause of Allah will be fully repaid to you, and you will not be wronged.” (Qur’an 8:60)
A hadith has Muhammad saying: “I have been made victorious with terror.” (Bukhari 4.52. 220)
The idea of some backlash by racist redneck yahoos against innocent Muslims after jihad terror attacks is a media fiction with no basis in reality
When will somebody ask just one of these “peaceful” Muslims to publicly repudiate all the hateful COMMANDS in the Koran? Terrorism is the very essence of Islam.
Muslims don’t think much of non-Muslims, if the assumption after an attack is that non-Muslims are going to take revenge on any or all Muslims. Do Muslims see non-Muslims as inferior “others?” Is that the reason Muslims are fearful? Is it fair to say Muslims are bigoted? Isn’t that the point here because the backlash hasn’t ever actually happened, except for some minor episodes. Or is the situation that Muslims know that the jihad attacks will be continuing, and will only get worse? That’s why some backlash is inevitable?
Too bad defending their religion is more important than protecting innocent people. Very sad.
(Islam is the *only* religion that has a chapter in its “holy book” titled “Booty”–Al-Anfal–that is dedicated to robbing and pirating unbelievers and divvying up the ill-gotten gains
“And know that anything you obtain of war booty – then indeed, for Allah is one fifth of it and for the Messenger and for near relatives and the orphans, the needy, and the traveler, if you have believed in Allah and in that which We sent down to Our Servant on the day of criterion – the day when the two armies met. And Allah, over all things, is competent.” (Qur’an 8:41)
ALL MUSLIMS ARE BOUNTY HUNTERS COMMISSIONED BY ALLAH to HUNT, CAPTURE, ENSLAVE or KILL the dirty KAFIRS.
• Islamic law forbids the subjugated People of the Book (Jews, Christians, Zoroastrians) to make public display of their religious festivals. The dhimmis “are forbidden…to ring church bells – the Islamic belief that bells scare away angels. or display crosses…recite the Torah or Evangel aloud, or make public display of their funerals or feastdays” (Reliance of the Traveller, o11.5 (6). If they violate these laws, they can lawfully be killed.
Keys says
“Terrorism is the very essence of Islam.”
That sums it up very well, Learning Islam.
gravenimage says
Good posts, Learning Islam.
Learning islam says
ALLAH SACTIONED ISLAMIC PERSECUTION, OPEN HATRED & KILLINGS OF INFIDLES AND RAPES
NOTE: TO SOFTEN THE MEANING OF THE ARABIC WORD (SUGAR COAT), ISLAMIC APPOGISTS MISS OUT OR ADD OR MISINTERPRET THE MEANING OF THE ARABIC WORD.
Koran 2:191 “slay the unbelievers wherever you find them”
Koran 3:21 “Muslims must not take the infidels as friends”
Koran 5:33 “Maim and crucify the infidels if they criticize Islam”
Koran 8:12 “Terrorize and behead those who believe in scriptures other than the Koran”
Koran 8:60 ” Muslims must muster all weapons to terrorize the infidels”
Koran 8:65 “The unbelievers are stupid, urge all Muslims to fight them”
Koran 9:5 “When the opportunity arises, kill the infidels wherever you find them”
Koran 9:123 “Make war on the infidels living in your neighbourhood”
Koran 22:19 “Punish the unbelievers with garments of fire, hooked iron rods, boiling water, melt their skin and bellies”
Koran 47:4 “Do not hanker for peace with the infidels, behead them when you catch them”.
“Stop pretending that orthodox Islam and violence aren’t linked…The West must stop ascribing any and all discussion of these issues to “Islamophobia.” Or do people want to accuse me — an Islamic scholar — of being an Islamophobe too?”
The inconvenient truth is that Islamic supremacists globally are persecuting Christians on a genocidal scale; killing other Muslims deemed not Muslim enough (over 11 million since 1948); abusing minorities and women; seeking to obliterate the Jewish state of Israel; and infiltrating Western nations (which they consider part of the House of War). Infidels are beheaded, an alarming number of “white girls” in the U.K. are raped and abused by Muslim grooming gangs because of their race and creed; gays are thrown off rooftops; beheadings and stonings are still sanctioned for crimes in Sharia states; women are worth less than men under the Sharia; FGM is practiced routinely worldwide; it is blasphemy to criticize or mock Muhammad; and it is illegal to challenge the Sharia, as it is regarded as divine law.
Questioning and public scrutiny of Islam are not the same as attacking all Muslims, and to criminalize so-called “Islamophobia” is an affront to democratic principles; free speech is a cornerstone of any free society
Learning islam says
Is knowing the truth about Islam also “islamophobia”?
What does Islam teach its followers? (muslims)
Islam teaches some really nasty, nasty stuff
Here’s a way for readers to see how “peaceful” Islam is from the comfort of their own home and learn it’s sinister truth
8:39 “fight till all religion is for allah” IE. until all people are Muslim
9:5 “when sacred months have passed, then kill the polytheists” Islam considers Christianity polytheists
9:29
4:89 “if they turn away (from Islam) kill them”
2:191 “and kill them wherever you overtake them, such is recompense of disbelievers (non-Muslims)”
8:67 “it is not for a prophet to have captives of war (slaves) until he inflicts a slaughter upon the land”
47:4 “when you meet disbeliever (non-Muslim) strike neck” see 8:39 above Islam is at war with all
5:51. “take no Jew or Christian as an ally”
9:30
3:151
8:12 “cast TERROR into hearts of disbelievers, so strike their necks & strike every fingertip”
8:60 “prepare whatever steeds of war you are able that you may TERRIFY enemies of allah” non-Muslims
9:111
13:41
7:175
5:33
4:25
24:2
37:88
38:31
47:35 “do not seek peace while you are superior”
Etc#
the Copts and other Christians in Dar-al-Islam are violently persecuted. This happens in *every* Muslim-majority country.
Christians are facing full genocide in places like Pakistan and Iraq.
In Egypt and other Islamic countries, it is way of life. Muslims are FULL of hate. The Copts are extremely peaceful people. Despite all the horrible atrocities committed by Muslims against them, they did not ever raise a hand against a Muslim. However, this did not help to soften the extreme hate in the Muslims’ hearts planted by Mohammad in the evil Koran. It is about time to declare Islam is NOT a religion, because it is not.
(Among all the claims Muslims make about their religion at least one of them is absolutely true; nothing has been changed since Muhammad’s first revelation. In an unbroken chain Muslims have been emulating their prophet, as instructed to do by Allah in the Quran. Muhammad had people killed over insults and was not troubled if innocent people, who had some association with the original “criminal”, were also killed.
To riot, burn and loot against perceived blasphemers and their friends and neighbors is 100% pure Islam. And it doesn’t even matter if the alleged blasphemy was a factually correct statement. Some countries will always be poor and their citizens uneducated. These are the countries where Shariah underpins every law. It is not possible for an intelligent, creative or ambitious person to be who they are in such a country. Where the voice of reason has been criminalized the gap is filled by angry, self-righteous mobs.
All of the destruction, death and looting are, in their minds, celebrated by Allah. So they get to hurt people and take their stuff without remorse which makes Islam the preferred religion for ignorant sociopaths. (DRHazard)
Learning islam says
a lot of love in Christianity, a lot of anger and hate in Islam. Christian pray for others, muslims pray for themselves. “religion of war” full of “venomous misogyny
• Coran has 114 chapters 6666 word. Jesus mentioned 25 times and mohammed 4 times
• chapter 15 verse the quran saying the workd of god will never be changed and the ottman quran is made of 8 different versions of quran ? 26 arab version of quran
• Hate appears towards unbeliever 296 times,
• kill unbeliever 180 times,
• Muslims are the “best of peoples” (3:110)
• slaughtering people – and their neighbors and entire community – over just a rumor is mainstream Islam.
• 51% (548,190 words) of the Trilogy text (koran, hadith,sira), most of it slanders against non-Muslims
• Not a single verse peaceful and be nice towards muslim sister. the Quran and hadith seem to be written for and only addressing men
• the 14 Koran verses that say Muslims not befriends of dirty kafirs
• 154 – 164 verses of curses , jihad and war and killings -31% of the Islamic Trilogy (327,547 words) concerned with jihad-warfare
that’s 80% plus of that obnoxious rag being useless
Text analysis of Islam’s so-called ‘holy’ books reveals approx. 20% religious content compared with 80% political content. If the political content was removed from Islam, there is virtually nothing left.
Revealation doubted
Ibn Abi Sarh was one of Muhammad’s scribes. When there was “revelation” of verse (23:12) that says, “We created man of an extraction of clay”, and when Muhammad reached the part that says, “… thereafter We produced him as another creature (23:14), ‘Abdullah said, “So blessed be God the fairest of creators!” in amazement at the details of man’s creation. The Prophet said, “Write it down; for thus it has been revealed.” ‘Abdullah doubted and said, “If Muhammad is truthful then I receive the revelation as much as he does, and if he is a liar, what I said is a good as what he said.”
‘Aisha remarked, “It seems to me that your Lord hastens to satisfy your desire.” Sahih Muslim vol.2 book 8 no.3453-3454 p.748-749.
Quran (33.57
Quran (56:017) – “Round about them will (serve) youths of perpetual (freshness),”
Quran, Surah 76:19 Allah promises fresh youths to Muslim men. “And round about them shall go youths never altering in age; when you see them you will think them to be scattered pearls”.
Hardly a day goes by without an Islamic terror attack somewhere in the world.
Without the threat of ‘violence ‘Islam has nothing to back it up.The alternative to violence surely is ‘love’which Christianity has in abundance.Therefore Islam will become redundant and shrivel away..Just when is the penny going to drop for Muslims.?
Blatant lies: Islam has NOTHING to do with terror
What terror? Oh…THAT terror!
a small but representative sample of the Qur’an’s violence and hate
The Koran’s 164 Jihad Verses: K 002:178-179, 190-191, 193-194, 216-218, 244; 003:121-126, 140-143, 146, 152-158, 165-167,169, 172-173, 195; 004:071-072, 074-077, 084, 089-091, 094-095,100-104; 005:033, 035, 082; 008:001, 005, 007, 009-010, 012, 015-017, 039-048,057-060, 065-075; 009:005, 012-014, 016, 019-020, 024-026, 029,036, 038-039, 041, 044, 052, 073, 081, 083,086, 088, 092, 111, 120, 122-123; 016:110; 022:039, 058, 078; 024:053, 055; 025:052; 029:006, 069; 033:015, 018, 020, 023, 025-027, 050; 042:039; 047:004, 020, 035; 048:015-024; 049:015; 059:002, 005-008, 014; 060:009; 061:004, 011, 013; 063:004; 064:014; 066:009; 073:020; 076:008.
the Hadith Book 12 has 1700 verses about Jihad alone.
Many imams say, it’s un-Islamic to “love” the DIRTY KUFAAR??? Muslims who do not show hostility towards the kufaar will not be admitted to Islamic paradise.
gravenimage says
Good posts, Learning Islam.
I’m rereading the Qur’an right now. Ugly stuff, but important for us to know.
CRUSADER says
Are you finding, as you peruse the Quor’an, anything similar to the Book of Mormon?
I paged through the BoM on a long continuous flight on 9-10-01….departing Newark early….
and I wasn’t that impressed. Later I felt there were some similarities to the Quor’an….
mainly having to do with fraternity rationalizations through fantastical “revelations”….
enough to dupe others into believing and enacting…
CRUSADER says
By the way, Graven Image, the wise Citizen Warrior would be ecstatic that you (and others here in the West) are studying the Quor’an — under the premise that in reading it what gets revealed is how absurd and horrifying and false Islam becomes to the studious eye, and how its contents obviate truth.
CRUSADER says
http://www.citizenwarrior.com/2011/07/tennessee-freedom-coalition.html
CITIZEN WARRIOR / Freedom Coalition
CRUSADER says
Look at this list!
All one has to do is view who SPLC vilifies, and 90% of the list should be JOINED !!!!
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Anti-Muslim | Southern Poverty Law Center
https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/extremist-files/ideology/anti-muslim
Washington, DC. Christian Action Network. Forest, VA. Citizens for National Security. Boca Raton, FL. Citizen Warrior. Nashville, TN. Clarion Project. Washington, DC. Committee to End the CSI Refugee Center. Buhl, ID. Counter Jihadist Coalition of Southern California. Santa Monica, CA. Crusaders, The. Garden City, KS.
Southern Poverty Law Center: 38 hate groups are active In Tennessee
https://www.tennessean.com/story/news/2017/08/14/tennessee…/566459001/
Aug 14, 2017 – Soldiers of Odin; American Constitution Center (Nashville); Political Islam ( Headquarters, Nashville); Citizen Warrior (Headquarters, Nashville); Lincoln County Citizen Action Network (Fayetteville); ACT for America (Knoxville); ACT for America (Memphis).
Learning islam says
4. ALL politicians who craft “hate-speech laws” and ALL cops who arrest people for “hate-speech crimes” and ALL lawyers and judges who prosecute people for them, should themselves be fired and JAILED for putting “hurt feelings” before FACTS Especially in the case of islam!
Everyone who defends islam and muslims endorses crime.
Endorsing crime IS a crime, so those doing it are criminals.
Right in the Qur’an is: the command to murder Jews and Christians (Surah 9:29), to terrorize all non-Muslims (8:12), to rape young girls (65:4), to enslave people for sex (4:3), to lie about one’s true goals (3:54), and the command to make war on all the infidels (9:123) and subjugate the entire world to Allah (9:33).
Are death-threats legal? NO.
Is extortion legal? NO.
Is slavery legal? NO.
Is murder legal? NO.
Is rape legal? NO.
THEN ISLAM IS ILLEGAL!
Rape, slavery, robbery, extortion and murder are never OK!
Everything muslims pretend to see as “holy” is already a crime!
So nobody has a legal right to practice islam anywhere on earth!
The murderers, apart from the muslims themselves are:
The Politicians
The Media
The Judiciary
mortimer says
Agree! If Islam can be judged by HATE SPEECH laws, Islam will NOT pass the test.
AL WALAA WAL BARAA is an OBLIGATORY ‘ESSENTIAL’ DOCTRINE within Islam. If Muslims do now BELIEVE and PRACTICE the requirement to HATE KAFIRS ‘for the sake of Allah’, they will not go to Islamic paradise.
• ‘Al Walaa wal Baraa’ – (Allegiance and Disassociation) is an Islamic doctrine that is very similar to apartheid, but more severe.
• ‘Al Walaa wal Baraa’ is an ‘essential doctrine’ (usul ud-deen). ‘Essential’ means that all Muslims must believe and practice al Walaa wal Baraa as a condition of being admitted to paradise.
• ‘Al Walaa wal Baraa’ is a highly developed, well-supported and canonical part of Islam approved by the consensus of Islamic jurists.
• ‘Al Walaa wal Baraa’ is legally binding and obligatory upon all Muslims.
• ‘Al Walaa wal Baraa’ is precisely defined by Islamic jurists and is not a nebulous idea
• ‘Al Walaa wal Baraa’ is an official Islamic doctrine and considered the second most important doctrine in Islam.
Definition of ‘Al Walaa wal Baraa’ from Islamic sources:
• from The Islamic Concept of al-Walaa’ wal-Baraa’ by Khalid El-Gharib: “to show enmity to those who show enmity to Allaah and His Messenger.” (i.e. Muslims are to visibly demonstrate
Shmoovie says
Just a “lack of understanding”.
That’s the way it WAS when, for example, his father and glamorous American mother came to MN for medical treatment. The media and adults were in awe of this wonderful, gracious royal couple. Islam was just a harmless different religion.
Forty or so years on, and countless islamic horrors later, more Westerners every day definitely DO understand. ‘The jig’s up’ as they used to say..
The king jr. could sell his whoppers anywhere on CNN– he has nothing to fear, no one will question him on the contents of his holy book.
CRUSADER says
Queen Noor snowed them at Princeton.
Her husband the King was a thorn in the side of Israel.
Duplicitous couple who enjoyed the high hog while retaining throne privileges and pretending to care for Palestinians, who obviously are the real Jordanians….
Learning islam says
Allah is hate spreader and Islamic text is doctrine of hate
Koran 40:35 “They [kafirs] who dispute the signs (verses) of Allah without authority having reached them are greatly hated by Allah and the believers (mohammden).” (Note: not just “hated”, but “greatly hated”.)
If Allah hates, then a Muslim should hate, as well. This hate is not due to moral failings. No, a kafir is hated for the simple reason that the kafir does not think that Mohammed is a prophet. [If Mohammed is not a prophet, then the Koran is fiction, and Islam is meaningless.] In the Sira( Mohammed’slife/biography) we find that Islam destroys cultured, wise people of high moral standards because they do not believe Mohammed. It is not personal; it is simply Islam.
Examples: “Christian cannot eat in Muslim owned restaurant, schools, colleges, office buildings nor they can drink water in same glasses which is worst kind of hate on religion in Pakistan but this new trend of prohibition on use of toilets in schools is inexpressible in words.”
whereever muslims appear in significant numbers everything turns bad.
muslims are racist to the bone,religious racism of the worst kind.
Hate and persecution of Christians and other religious minorities in Islamic countries is unbearable.
Majority muslim Indonesia is not easy for other beliefs.
Indonesia: Remote Orang Rimba Tribe Forced to Convert to Islam
The Islamic Defenders Front – a vigilante group whose leader is facing charges of inciting religious violence – helped facilitate the conversion.
Ustad Reyhan, from the Islamic missionary group Hidayatullah, has stayed to make sure the new faith is practised.
“For now we are focusing on the children. It’s easier to convert them – their mind isn’t filled with other things. With the older ones it’s harder,” he says….………..
The surrounding majority Muslim population calls the Orang Rimba “Kubu”.
“It means that they are very dirty, they are garbage, you can’t even look because it is so disgusting,” explains anthropologist Butet Manurung,
https://creepingsharia.wordpress.com/2017/11/19/tribe-forced-to-islam/
Muslims believe that kafirs are the lowest of life forms, even lower than bugs. Muslims believe that kafirs are polluted and that touching them will force the Muslim to ritually bathe.
The muslims came in with a supremist frame of mind and denigrated and “put downs” with power to the natives. That is in the koran that they practice.
But village leader Muhammad Yusuf – Yuguk, to use his Orang Rimba name – was thinking about surviving in this life when he converted.
“It was a very heavy and difficult decision, but we feel like we have no choice, if we want to move forward,” he says quietly.
“So that our children can have the same opportunities as the outsiders, the people of the light, we had no other choice. We had to all convert to Islam.”
Outsiders are the “people of the light”, because they live in open areas and are often in the sun, unlike the people of the jungle….……….
“If you came before, you would have seen our forest. It was pristine, with huge trees,” says Yusuf.
It sounds like that forest is being logged for the muslims profit.
ISLAM HAS A DOCTRINE OF HATE: ‘AL BARAA’ = Islamic Apartheid, Shunning
Al Bughoud = Hatred of Kafirs ‘for the sake of Allah’ or Al Mu’adaat (hatred) is the opposite of Al Muwalaat (love of Muslims
from Sufi scholar Ahmad Sirhindi (1564-1624): “The honour of Islam lies in insulting kufr and kafirs. One who respects the kafirs dishonours the Muslims… The real purpose of levying jiziya on them is to humiliate them to such an extent that they may not be able to dress well and to live in grandeur. They should constantly remain terrified and trembling. It is intended to hold them under contempt and to uphold the honour and might of Islam.”
-from ibn Taymiyya, “Book of Emaan”: “… true believers show animosity and hatred towards disbelievers and never support them.”
-from Umar Sulayman ‘Abd-Allaah al-Ashqar, “Belief in Allah”: “The Muslim should regard the Kuffaar as enemies and hate them because of their kufr, just as he hates their kufr (disbelief) itself.”
CRUSADER says
Good to be referencing CREEPING SHARIA
Learning islam says
Muslims constantly call for all Jews to be killed. However you never hear of Jews calling for all Muslims to be killed. That says it all
Jews don’t call for ANY Muslims to be killed for any reason, including not accepting Judaism.
In many passages, Muhammad plays a central role as one who encourages the use of violence, whether it comes to stonings, beheadings, acts of war or execution of critics and poets.”
Islam is Evil incarnate. Women are objects, children are furniture and justice for women is non existent. Muslims believe they are superior to others and instituionaly demand that Jews be executed. Other religions are forbidden in Islamic countries.
Islam breaks the world into two parts; The lands of Islam (Dar al Islam) and the lands of war (Dar al harb). Muslims believe that Muhammed was the perfect man and should be emulated in all things. If Muhaamed beheaded 800 Jews himself then that is to be emulated.
There is so much to be learned about Islam it is a lifetimes effort.
While not all do, but far too Muslims ascribe to the literal understanding of Islamic doctrine and texts,. It is a ubiquitous global problem, with state funding backing religiously sanctioned human rights abuses. Islamic anti-semitism is ingrained in Islamic doctrine. Muslims are the “worst enemies” of the Jewish people. more vulnerable than ever to Muslim violence.
It is said that common sense is not commonly found. So is truth that is becoming scarcer by the the day.Some must be wise to see things through about devout Muslims being killer force not only of the Jews but of the whole mankind
Bloodthirsty Imams strong hateful prayers: “Oh Allah, destroy them, they are no match for You. Oh Allah, disperse them, and rend them asunder. Turn them into booty in the hands of the Muslims.” There are 1.6 billion muhammden in the world. the ratio of Muslims to Israelis is 153:1. What absurdity!
how a Jewish person might feel about what “holy book” says about them? “No Jew should ever muslims on this world who hate them for an integral part of their identity. but there is never any apology offered for the hatred and threats of death to jews by any muslims or any muslim groups. Only that jews should apologize for the idea of zionism, which has been the idea for 3000yrs or so, without any compulsion against other ‘faiths’ in that regard during that time. But… the muslim idea indeed commands muslims to convert the world until there is only Islam, and that they never allow to be mentioned. And that’s what the answer should be to these lying whiners.
If one were Jewish, and knew what is in the Qur’an about Jews, knew too about the Muslim attacks on Jews in Europe, as at the HyperCacher market, or the Jewish school in Toulouse (where three small children were stabbed to death, along with the father of two of them), one would certainly have a right to be “scared.” If one were Christian, and knew what has happened to Christians in the Middle East, in North Africa, in Pakistan, Afghanistan, and Indonesia, at the hands of Muslims, couldn’t one be legitimately “scared’?
This profound Jew-hatred is ingrained in Islamic supremacists and is often spewed publicly with no consequences. Some recent cases reported by Jihad Watch include:
•Toronto imam Ayman Elkasrawy prayed that Allah would kill all Jews, but instead of receiving a just penalty, Elkasrawy’s words were covered up by the Toronto Star. Robert Spencer held The Star accountable and took them to task, as did Honest Reporting.
•Another Toronto imam, Sheikh Abdulqani Mursal, at Masjid Al Hikma mosque in Toronto, explained that the fate of the Jews is to be killed by the Muslims.
•In the Netherlands, Muslims at a pro-Palestinian rally screamed and chanted about killing Jews.
•In Marseille, a former principal at a preparatory school for teens admitted to regularly advising Jews not to attend his institution, for fear of harassment by Muslim students.
•Saudi Cleric Mamdouh Al-Harb preached that the “Muslims’ war is with the Jews and not just with Zionists’ and that saying otherwise ‘constitutes a denial of the words of Allah and of the Prophet Muhammad’”.
•The list is endless. Meanwhile, UN Watch fired back at countries accusing Israel of apartheid and abuses: “Where are your Jews?”
One of the worst examples of Islamic Jew-hatred is the Boycott, Divestment and Sanctions movement that acts against Israel for no justifiable reason. It aims to delegitimize the Jewish state, weaken it and finally destroy it, in accordance with the PA, Fatah, Hamas Charters and the repeated efforts by the Muslim countries surrounding Israel.
Anyone who doesn’t know the depth of Muslim hate should understand that, while their koran specifies Jews as its most hated, Christians, or in fact all non-Muslims other than Jews are also targets of opportunity to them. And, I use the word “them” because those who do not comply with Islam’s hate directives are few and far between.
“Anti-Semitic thinking and stereotyping are very common … even among those who emphasize that they ‘respect’ Judaism or that there is no problem living together between Muslims, Christians and Jews in their countries of origin,” Anti-Semitism among Muslim refugees is rampant and requires urgent attention. given the depth of anti-Jewish hostility in Arab and Islamic countries, this is not surprising based on the stereotypes that are implanted in schools, mosques and government propaganda in islamic countries
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Here is a partial glossary of Muslims abusing and killing Jews in recent history.
WW1 Ottomans (piss be upon them) kick out all the Jooz out of Jaffa. Arab Muslims (piss be upon them) loot their properties.
1921- kill the Jooz
1929- massacre the Jooz of Hebron
Farhud in Iraq
1936-39 kill more Jooz
1948 quote: ” massacre them to the last one. This will the biggest annihilation since Gingis Khan”
And on it goes you Muslim mass murderer.
Happy killing Satan. (Koosemo says – Dec 15, 2017 at 5:33 am)
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Here are a few mullahs who hate Jews and Christians! Do you want them in your country?
An Israeli stamp on your passport can get you denied entry to many countries in the Middle East . Islamic Countries prohibits their citizen to travel to Israel.
Saudi Airlines prohibits Jews.
Delta adopts Saudi ‘no-Jew’ fly policy
http://www.wnd.com/2011/06/314309/
Who, solely and alone, has ruined air travel around the entire freaking world? The “Islamohobic”and correct answer is?…
Didn’t he know that someday he would be judged by a Jew…Jesus Christ??
Hate against Christians , Jews and other Muslims – Wahhabi teaching in Saudi Arabia ,
It isn’t only the Saudis who teach Jew hatred to their kids, it’s ubiquitous throughout the muslim world. Here’s a tiny glimpse into islam’s school of hate:
The al-Tawhid (monotheism) is a 45-book teaching tool that not only teaches that Christians and Jews as second-class people, but also condemns Islamic schools of thought such as the Shiite or the mystical current of Sufism. For example, the construction of shrines or mosques over the graves of religious personalities is condemned, a practice which can be observed among Shiites and Sufis. From the Wahhabi point of view, such veneration is a reprehensible act of polytheism. Those who do this have fallen away from Islam and are eternally condemned, teach the Wahhabi textbooks. “Whoever makes the graves of the prophets and righteous ones into mosques is evil,” is the title of a seventh-grade textbook. In another place, Sufism is called a “perverse path.”
Pakistan: Public schools teach hatred of Jews and Christians, “passion for Jihad”
The books claim that Christian, Hindu, Jewish, Sikh faiths, and even minority Muslim ethnic groups are inferior if not dangerous and should be opposed
The Koran?
“This wretched book … I have been unable to discover in it one single idea of value.”
Arthur Schopenhauer
“So long as there is this book there will be no peace in the world.”
William E. Gladstone
“It’s a depressing book. It really is. It’s just the rantings of a schizophrenic. There is also the barrenness of the message. It has no ethical dimension.”
Sebastian Faulks
https://libertygb.org.uk/news/book-reviews-koran
mortimer says
Very good! The evidence of HATE WITHIN ISLAM directed from Muslims towards the dirty KAFIRS is overwhelming and conclusive.
Islam is GUILTY of preaching hatred towards DISBELIEVERS.
CRUSADER says
The Koran?
“This wretched book … I have been unable to discover in it one single idea of value.”
Arthur Schopenhauer
“So long as there is this book there will be no peace in the world.”
William E. Gladstone
“It’s a depressing book. It really is. It’s just the rantings of a schizophrenic. There is also the barrenness of the message. It has no ethical dimension.”
Sebastian Faulks
+++++++++
DEUS VULT
+++++++++
Indiana Tom says
9:29 “Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the last day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and his apostle nor acknowledge the religion of truth of the people of the Book (the Jews and the Christians) until they pay the Jizya [tax on non-Muslims] with willing submission and feel themselves subdued.”
What can I say? Robert Spencer beat me to the punch.
Carolyne says
There are plenty here who believe in “The Last Day” but don.t believe in Allah. I don’t understand the difference in those beliefs, except for Allah. Certainly there might be a “Last day.” The galaxies might collide or a gigantic meteor might strike the earth. Maybe the sun will run out of fuel. But that would have nothing to do with Allah or any “God” for that matter.
While Allah might do it, I don’t believe that a benevolent, loving God would cause such a catastrophe.
You better watch out, you better not pout—the last day might get you. So behave yourselves.
Indiana Tom says
The king defended the religion, saying the foundations of Islam are the same moral virtues seen in other religions like Christianity and Judaism. Read Wholly Different: Why I Chose Biblical Values Over Islamic Values by Nonie Darwish. She lays out the “seventh-century values” of Islam that religious extremists are so intent on protecting through global warfare—values that set Islam apart from the other Abrahamic religions.
“It is not a religion of hate. We as Muslims believe in Jesus Christ as the Messiah. We believe in the Holy Virgin Mother. Different Jesus. We believe in the Bible and the Torah, different gospel
“When we all greet each other as Arabs and Muslims, we say, ‘As-salamu alaykum’ — peace be unto you before killing off the Christians ,” he added, describing the frequently uttered phrases as “the basis of Islam.” Allah Akbar!
4 For if someone comes and proclaims a Jesus other than the One we proclaimed, or if you receive a different spirit than the One you received, or a different gospel than the one you accepted, you put up with it way too easily.
you are deserting the One who called you by the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 which is not even a gospel. Evidently some people are troubling you and trying to distort the gospel of Christ. 8But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be under a divine curse!…
CRUSADER says
CAUTION: this could catch on!!!!
‘Death to you’ = (as-samu alaykum)
AWESOME Greeting To A Muslim Jerk!
Note the similarity to the usual “greeting”
DHazard says
One way to determine whether someone is lying to you about Islam is when they make positive statements about Jesus Christ but fail to mention the other claims about Jesus that basically render Christianity a false religion. So if they tell you they believe Jesus was a revered prophet and was born of a virgin, but fail to tell you that he DID NOT die on the cross and WAS NOT resurrected then they are not trustworthy. They are just selling their faith.
So, King Abdullah is just another propagandist for Islam and is also a liar.
Indiana Tom says
but fail to tell you that he DID NOT die on the cross and WAS NOT resurrected then they are not trustworthy. That actually was a Gnostic theology which was long before Islam.
No Fear says
Mohammed, according to Professor Joseph Campbell, was a “little pitcher with big ears” who soaked up all the oral folklore in his living space and then put it all together and called it the Quran. Gnostic myths were included, even stories from the apocryphal Infancy Gospel of Thomas. Mohammed was good at putting together different mythical and religious elements and making them cohesive. He was also good at killing Jews ……
gravenimage says
Worse than this, though, is the Islamic claim that the role of “Jesus” is to *murder Christians*.
CRUSADER says
Graven, this is so crucial for people to learn about: that the Muslim Jesus (Christ) is to be the hitman for Islam….at the End of Days….
WAKE UP Christians!
+++++++++
DEUS VULT
+++++++++
gravenimage says
Absolutely, CRUSADER. Even a lot of Anti-Jihadists don’t know this.
Lydia Church says
Right.
They are masters of DECEIT.
thesailor says
“One way to determine whether someone is lying to you about Islam is” to see if their lips are moving.
CRUSADER says
Reza Aslan basically takes apart with systematic skepticism under scholarly guise the whole sanctity of Jesus the Christ, in the book he copiously footnoted: “ZEALOT”
Must be fodder for imams in mosques….discounting the legitimacy of the Religion of the West….
This Iranian is married to a “Christian”:
Jessica Jackley: Poverty, money — and love | TED Talk | TED.com
Video for Jessica Jackley▶ 18:33
https://www.ted.com/…/jessica_jackley_poverty_money_and_love
What do you think of people in poverty? Maybe what Jessica Jackley once did: ” they” need “our” help
No Fear says
I use the Quran and the Hadith as “excellent examples” of how NOT to behave in my dealings with people. Mohammed is an “excellent example” of a gangster.
CRUSADER says
useful — like NEGATIVE education can be something to learn from.
CRUSADER says
Why is he being designated as a Jordanian King?
Doesn’t he preside over the actual Palestine?
JawsV says
Jordan. Hussein’s son.
Guy Forester says
Exactly. The original Palestine mandate included what is now the state of Israel. When this was getting restructured into a Jewish section and a Muslim/Arab section, the Eastern part was “Transjordan” and was earmarked for the Arab/Muslim population.
Of course, we all know how well that worked. In addition, what is known as the west bank and run by the “Palestinians” was a part of Jordan as well. Unfortunately, the Palis tried to take out King Hussein after the 1967 war, but failed. The “Palestinians” were largely some local semi-nomadic tribes and migrants from what are now Egypt, Jordan, and other Arab areas that were part of the Ottoman Empire. I do not envy Abdullah’s position over there.
StellaSaidSo says
+1
Ren says
King Abdullah of Jordan should have said: “Maybe there’s a lack of understanding of Islam” by the muslims.
Champ says
“Muslims are quick to point out that they believe in Jesus. However, they only claim to believe in Jesus because Muhammad rewrote the history of Jesus to portray him as a Muslim. What happens when we rewrite the history of Muhammad to portray him as a Christian? Let’s find out as David Wood declares, ‘I believe in Muhammad.'”
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhT7SaIE_DQ
Champ says
David Wood is *brilliant*!!
gravenimage says
I love David Wood. Great stuff.
eduardo odraude says
Me three.
Wellington says
Message to King Abdullah: You can only fool the ignorant with what you said. Those of us knowledgeable about Islam are way, way past giving any credence to what you asserted. And you either know this or should know it.
Carolyne says
King Abdullah himself seems to not understand Islam. His wife, Rania, is a Palestinian and she does not wear that ridiculous garb required by Muslim men for Muslim women. Neither did his British mother nor his American Step-mother.
Anas says
King Abdullah and me both r muslims. We know Islam and what about u?
U feel so good to insult and criticise Islam with no knowledge that u forget it own religion
Shame on u
StellaSaidSo says
You don’t know Islam, Anas. You proved that when you denied elsewhere on this thread that Muslim men are allowed to beat their wives.
Shame on u
By the way, most posters here are very knowledgeable about the vile ideology of Islam – far more knowledgeable than are most Muslims.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Mr Spencer, all the Quranic verses you have cited are refering to war with hostile enemy unbelievers which naturally involves killings, not all unbelievers like civilian population and allies as terrorists have misconceived and you have agreed with them.
gravenimage says
What crap from Ibrahim itace muhammed. He himself has affirmed that Muslims can slaughter any Infidels who do not submit to Islam.
Lydia Church says
Right.
And that is certainly how they are treating everyone who is not muslim.
Look, Ibrahim….. somehow you have been deceived and brainwashed in some jihad camp or something like that. They have lied to you. Just take an open minded look at history and at both the whole koran and the whole Protestant Bible. Do some research into how the Bible is reliable and has been preserved in such a way as would make it impossible to be corrupted. The way the Bible is written validates itself through prophesies and things like that. It is one big tapestry of God’s message to us. Look again at the claims of Jesus. This is not the Jesus of the koran. Our God is a God of love.
Even if you put aside acts from fake ‘Christians’ that were less than good, and put aside all the acts of terrorism by jihadists, just look at each book. See which one makes you feel like you are following God in your heart, which one does not go against your conscience. Jesus told His followers to love their enemies, and everyone else too. But the koran…?
Before I fall asleep at night, I have the sweet, beautiful love and peace of God in my heart. The pure and holy light of His presence is all around. I feel good about my day. I did a lot of things to help others because I have HIS love in my heart. And that includes all sorts of people. He tells us to do these things. You can have this same joy and fellowship with God too when you come to Jesus as Savior. But at this time, what goes through your mind before you fall asleep, what sort of feelings are inside of your heart?
The Bible says God is just a cry away. All you have to do is cry out to Him and He will answer you. He will help replace all the hate with love. There are so many beautiful stories of converts from islam to Christ, and they all testify of this feeling! That is another good research item. They lose everything sometimes and it is still worth it to them!
At the end of it all, the only question that will matter is this: God gave us His Only Son, Jesus, to save our souls; what have you done with His gift? Right now, God’s Holy Spirit is posing this question to your heart, to YOU. When you feel that, don’t ignore it, He is knocking on the door of your heart. He will take even the fiercest enemy and make them into the best ally. Just look at Paul the apostle as one example. He hunted down the early church to put them to death. He was converted by Jesus, who asked him “why are you persecuting Me?” He became one of the most active missionary apostles ever, causing the gospel to spread all over the Mediterranean, churches sprang up all over as a result, and for the gospel he endured suffering and being persecuted and eventually martyred for his faith in Christ.
His love is so beautiful that we are willing to suffer martyrdom and never deny our faith and convert to anything else! Others seek to conquer by sword and by hate. But Jesus wins us by the Holy Spirit, by His unconditional LOVE, even towards His enemies! Love conquers hate in this way. But you must first open your heart.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Ibrahim never bothers to define words like “civilian” or “enemy”.
He hopes that we will doubt the truth, and weaken our defense against his brothers violent war against us.
Ibrahim is untrustworthy in the extreme. He reinforces this with almost every post.
Sorry Ib, but your behavior has done a great deal to further convince me about the character of islam, and muslims in general. You could have done some good for your religion and your brothers, but all you do is tell us how little we can trust muslims.
Is that what you were trying to do?
CRUSADER says
LIRC,
Don’t encourage Mr Irritates.
don vito says
-35
Guy Forester says
I do not even try to decipher his rants any more. I do not recommend trying to refute his comments. Ignoring those posts is probably the best tactic.
JawsV says
Yes, I ignore. The Muslim is evil. Islam is evil.
CRUSADER says
as-samu alaykum
Mr Irritates
as-samu alaykum
R Russell says
Ibrahim
Do you really think we fall for your taqiyya?
We all know about taqiyya, kitman, murana and tawriya.
We watch Islam fooling the gullible every day – those with a Christian background who erroneously believe Islam is based on truthful statements when it is not. Islam is like its God, Allah one of whose 99 names is ‘the deceiver’. Your God, Allah, deceives so you emulate him and try to deceive also.
https://www.islam-watch.org/home/139-louis-palme/1095-knowing-four-arabic-words-may-save-our-civilization-from-islamic-takeover.html
.
Living in love is so much better. Experiencing the love of the Jesus found in the Bible is much more satisfying to the human soul that living in deception.
Why not ask the Bible Jesus to reveal himself to you? Like thousands of Muslims who have done so, you will find a true friend.
Eur says
Scum.
Jack Dawkins says
Go blow yourself up for the glory of your Arab masters.
Anas says
They r idiots they just read a sentence from some site and think that they read entire quran without seeing in what context these lines r written
F***ing jerks
Mark DeFord Eletion says
Muslims wish each other peace because peace is difficult to achieve in their culture, which is shaped by their religion. If peace were the norm in islam, the word would rarely be used.
Jim says
He is correct. The lack of understanding is that not enough of Washington care to understand it and just sweep it under the rug.
steve says
Ibrahim, There is a series on T.V. here called ; ‘The Nazis, a Warning from History’. There will soon, by public demand, be a more crucial series of public information broadcasts entitled , ISLAM; a Brutal, Retarded Cult whose Emergence and Survival is an insult to Civilisation and History’
Timeon says
Whether or not DC understands islam we know that their allegiance lays with evil that it is. Amongst all of the drama and intrigue of political Washington DC, the death of this nation will be in surrender to islam.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Slippery devil.
mgoldberg says
The king defended the religion, saying the foundations of Islam are the same moral virtues seen in other religions like Christianity and Judaism.
“It is not a religion of hate. We as Muslims believe in Jesus Christ as the Messiah. We believe in the Holy Virgin Mother. We believe in the Bible and the Torah, and I think this is the way that all of us were brought up,” he told Zakaria.he king said.
So that must be why the Jews, especially observant religious jews are herded like cattle when visiting the temple mount, and forbidden- FORBIDDEN- from praying, from utterling quietly any of their prayers, and are considered dirty and so forbidden from uttering simple prayers. In fact, observant jews who go to the Temple Mount are accused of engaging in Talmudic rituals In other words, they are considered evil and this is taught across the muslim world. For the Prince of the Jorden to play the taquiya game is simply standard muslim disinformation insisting they are pussy cats, lovable, aching for peace and being the religion of all the ‘prophets’ etc.
He’s lying of course, and he’s foolind us, and himself.
Troybeam says
Those of us that read the Koran and sharia law there is no “MISS-UNDERSTANDING” of Islam. What the issue is in Washington are Islamic appeasers who know nothing of Islam except the lies told to them by Imam’s etc. and then you have those that know very well Islam intent yet are ignored and called racist.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
http://www.breitbart.com/jerusalem/2018/02/04/syrian-kurds-outraged-mutilated-body-female-fighter/
j_not_a says
It’s winter. This King Abdullah is giving one helluvah snowjob.
JawsV says
I’ve understood Islam perfectly since 9/11, King “Slave to Allah.”
StellaSaidSo says
+1
PRCS says
Much of the county’s erroneous belief that SOA means “Soldier of Allah” is the result of “journalists” misreporting what that acronym on Fort Hood shooter Hasan’s business card means. You’re correct: it’s Slave to Allah (also Slave of Allah) and bespeaks the problem with that “religion”.
sidney penny says
“It is not a religion of hate.”
Maybe it is not a religion of hate but it is definitely a religion of violence.
but the violence comes from hate.
and both hate and violence are in the Islamic tests so where do we go?
Jordon?
JawsV says
Islam is definitely a religion of hate. Virulent anti-Jew/Christian hate. See: Quran.
PRCS says
#1. Jews
#2. Christians
#3. All other “unbelievers”.
CRUSADER says
Jordan
Palestine
Amalek
sonata says
Can anyone tell me?
How, and why did Ayatollah Khomeini get that enormous suport in 1979?
That´s the time when all hell broke lose.
duh swami says
Islam is a hostile, violent, hegemonic, political system hiding behind religion…
am I misunderstanding something?
Anas says
Yep… everything
If u know everything about Islam then write the entire first chapter of Quran
FYI says
It would appear that his majesty is the one who lacks a proper understanding of islam..
islam..
A false creed with..
A false prophet,muhammed{a mass-murdering,slave trading polygamist with a child bride}
A false scripture,the koran{that tells muslims they are free to break God’s Commandments}
A false god allah{an anti-Jewish,anti-Christian god of hate who is in opposition to the true God of Moses… and a god who ludicrously does not even know or subscribe to the Two Chief Commandments of God!}
1,400 plus years of violence,invading countries,stealing from Jews and Christians,mass-murdering non -muslims,raping and pillaging in the name of their Commandment-violating god ,allah
islam is the pariah religion of humanity.
the islamic koranic allah is NOT the Biblical God:that is the whole cause of the problem.If allah was the same as the God of Moses,there would be no conflict!
allah is a twisted distortion of God:the fact that allah even curses the Biblical prophets(since they are all Jews)..”Be ye apes ,despised and hated” koran 2:65 tells you the truth about allah.
The koran manages to insult both Jews and Christians:it refers to Jews in derogatory terms and totally denies Christ koran 4 v 157.
Such a “holy ” book indeed!… and it was given to muhammed the mass-murdering,slave-trading,polygamist,self-appointed “prophet” by the “angel” jibreel{defined in islam as”the enemy of the Jews”}by allah in a cave with….no witnesses.
islam: a house of cards built on quicksand.
islam supremacist ideology:the thug in the classroom of world religions.
Kasey says
A few Muslims might agree with him in that set of beliefs, but the majority don’t and have a poor understanding of any other faiths of no non-faiths and are totally intolerant of them.
Peter Frohwein says
Useful idiots who mindlessly repeat the phrase “islamophobia”, have zero knowledge of the history of Islam. There is 1400 years of clear proof that Islam is not and never has been a religion of peace. It is a death cult based on a barbaric sadistic warlord, rapist, polygamist, misogynist, pedophile, who preached hatred against all non-muslims. And, strongly supported Slavery !
With this being said. I have only Love in my heart for all men and women, including Muslims. BUT, I completely reject the parts of islam which support and propagate; hate, oppression, exploitation, deviant behavior and violence of any kind ! Any rational (sane) person should do the same.
Valkyrie Ziege says
; We understand Muhammadanism, and we reject it. Because we prefer civilization instead of bronze-age books written by mentally ill men.
Anas says
U r insulting our religion so can I assume that Christianity tells it’s followers to hate other religion?
StellaSaidSo says
No, Christianity does not tell its followers to hate other religions.
But Islam certainly tells its followers to hate other religions. If you don’t believe me, just open the Koran. It is full of hate.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Christians are advised to reject every false thing, which is why we thoroughly reject mohammad and islam.
Christians however are not like muslims, because we aren’t trying to imitate a disgusting warlord who slaughtered his enemies (which was anyone disagreeing with him).
Christians are not being true to Christ is they kill the unbelievers. Muslims are being true to mohammad is they kill the unbelievers.
Hogdude says
IMO, the King is trying to cover all the bases by his statements. I think all his statements are flat wrong and should be rejected. When we look at what Islam does, rather than what it says, it’s destructive, malicious, duplicitous and I could go on. I believe Islam is a political movement cloaked in a religious garment. It has shadowed what we have come to be known as Christianity. When we read the Qu’ran (and I have), it reads in tone and metre much like our Old Testament. Beware of the intentions of King Abdullah, as he lives in the powderkeg of Jordan, so he must straddle several fences in order to stay in power. God be with him.
eduardo odraude says
Hmm. The King thinks he understands Islam. Presumably in accord with Islam he rules Jordan as a monarchical dictatorship. That means that Islam according to him is an authoritarian creed. And that is what Washington — or rather the president — understands very well.
Manny says
I thought Islam considered the Bible and the Torah as heretical representation of Allah’s word? The King either doesn’t know his religion or is lying.
Cheer Bear Girl says
The King of Jordan is a liar. According to Allah the King of Kings is his enemy. According to Islam those who follow Jesus are going to hell. Christians will replace Muslims in Hell according to the Quran. Christianity and Islam are as different as night and day. In Islam the Beast of the End Times is a good guy. So Islam is the religion of the Beast.
Coach Martin says
There has been a lack of understanding of Islam for 1400 years. If we had understood it better there would not be a Mosque standing anywhere in the world.
Jacqueleen says
King Abdullah is a Muslim and Muslims are taught to lie under Islam….and their prophet Mohammed. Should we believe liars? Take heed. There are no peaceful Muslims…They all follow the Quran. The violent Muslims are openly violent but the moderate Muslims follow DAWAH, multiplying and integrating all facets of society of the country that they silently seige to take as their own. All Muslims are bound and determined to take over the world……whether by force or by the majority…..The only way to deal with Muslims is to evict and ban them from entering a civilized society…ISOLATION IS KEY. There ideology is illegal in civilized countries but they insist upon living under Sharia Law even though beating ones wife or daughter is a crime or having sex with a child is a crime or slashing a non-Muslim’s throat is a crime or killing the infidels is a crime…all are crimes against humanity, but the United Nations will not rule against this because most of its members are Muslim/Arabs. EVICT AND BAN OR LOSE YOUR SANITY AND YOUR FREEDOM AND YOUR LIFE.