The leader of Italy’s Lega party, Matteo Salvini, was “criticized for swearing an oath of loyalty to the Italian people on a bible, saying ‘in my Italy, immigration has rules.’” Salvini sai: “In my Italy, immigration has rules, numbers and limits, as in America and Canada. According to you, the Gospel says welcome anyone? With 5 million Italians in poverty, the ‘next neighbour’ is in Milan, Naples, Turin, Rome.”
His critic was Roman Catholic Archbishop Gian Carlo Perego, a.k.a. the “bishop of migrants.”
Matteo Salvini is justified in his resolve to restore sensible immigration policies in Italy. Salvani stated rightly on Facebook that “immigration out of control leads to chaos, anger, social confrontation.” Last summer, Italy was overwhelmed with a flood of 13,500 African migrants within two days.
The mess in Europe has already proven the truth of Salvani’s statement, with the rise of go-zones, mass rapes, migrant violence, sharia patrols, and debt in the billions. Preventative measures against jihad attacks on crowds is an added exorbitant cost, and even worse have been the deadly jihad attacks in Europe.
Salvani stated a meaningful point:
Now I understood why on the left they are so angry, they would like to swear on the Quran.
Whether one supports Salvani as a leader or not, it could be said that the West has tolerated the intolerable in kowtowing to Muslims who seek to expand the scope and influence of sharia in the West. They are paving the way for the proponents of political Islam.
“Italian Populist Leader Slams Pro-Migrant Bishop: ‘The Gospel Doesn’t Say to Welcome Everyone,’” by Chris Tomlinson, Breitbart, February 28, 2018:
Populist leader of the Lega party Matteo Salvini struck back at a pro-migrant bishop who attacked him for swearing an oath of loyalty to the Italian people on a bible, saying “in my Italy, immigration has rules”. Salvini promised to swear his oath of office on a bible last Saturday at a rally in Milan which drew the ire of Roman Catholic archbishop Gian Carlo Perego, also known as the “bishop of migrants”, Il Giornale reports.
“Here we are faced with a leader who contradicts himself with the Gospel and with the rosary and on the other hand he preaches the non-acceptance and refusal of the other: yesterday the southerner, today the foreigner,” Perego said referring to the Lega’s past as a northern separatist party.
In response to the criticism, Salvini said: “In my Italy, immigration has rules, numbers and limits, as in America and Canada. According to you, the Gospel says welcome anyone? With 5 million Italians in poverty, the ‘next neighbour’ is in Milan, Naples, Turin, Rome.”
At a rally in Padua on Monday, Salvini went further, saying: “Now I understood why on the left they are so angry, they would liketo swear on the Quran.”….
Terry Gain says
The Gospel does not say submit to the enemy of Christianity. Allowing Muslim immigration will lead to civil war or submission. Those with no understanding of Muslim doctrine and history must be defeated at the polls.
Richard says
Terry: Absolutely. Actually, the Bible says exactly the opposite of submitting to them. The Old Testament is not exactly friendly to unbelievers, while the New Testament says don’t even wish them well. This web site recently posed a story of Immigrants taking selfies with the Pope. If they can afford those cameras (and likely a computer to download he photos to), they aren’t exactly starving. Didn’t Jesus say something about feeding dogs while the children of the household go hungry?
Kay says
Jesus did say:
“Behold, I send you out as sheep in the midst of wolves; so be shrewd as serpents and innocent as doves.“
J D S says
Possibly all countries would welcome all oppressed Muslims into their countries IF they didn’t try to bring their so called religion with them then try to force it in the populations……..Who wants a blabbering prayer call tower in their neighborhood…Who wants a bunch of Muslim organizations spread throughout their countries with one goal… … to a Force their so called made up religion on the population. It seems that only the so called leaders are the ones who are allowing it.
Super Nova 500 says
Agreed. The Bible specifically mentions high walls several times in the Bible, as in Revelation – 21:15 “And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain and showed me the Holy City Jerusalem coming out of Heaven from God having the glory of God. It had a GREAT and HIGH wall with twelve Gates”.
Also 21: 17 ” And he had a gold measuring Rod to measure the city, its Gates and it’s wall. He measured its wall, 72 yards high according to human measurements, which are also angelic measurements. The wall around the city was 1500 Miles, which was also the length, width and height of the city itself”.
And… Ezekiel 42: 20 – “It had a wall all around, the length 500 and the width 500, TO DIVIDE between the holy and the profane”.
Paul says
Cultural Marxists have infiltrated the church and are misappropriating Christian
doctrine against itself to facilitate the downfall of the West. They’re every bit as
cunning and malevolent as the islamists – if not more so. The Bible says charity
begins at home, which is what Salvini basically said. The West could also help
Middle Eastern countries by not helping ISIS, and by supporting people like Assad
whom Syrian Christians love, but let’s not mention that. We mustn’t destroy the
wicked and deceitful narrative being sold to us.
Save Europe says
Indeed. Pope Francis is clearly a Cultural Marxist.
Carolyne says
It is being sold to us but I am not buying. It is none of our business who is head of Syria and Assad seems to be the legal head. There was no trouble with Islamists in Syria until the West started meddling. As I understand it, Christians were free to practice their religion in peace under Assad. They will be murdered under the Islamists we are supporting.
John McCain said he knew that the rebels are not Muslim fanatics because he had lunch with them and they told him so. I think he has had that brain tumor for a long time.
gravenimage says
Christians were still under threat in Syria–but it is worse now since the “Arab Spring”.
JawsV says
Unfortunately I think it’s too little too late unless they start deporting. The barbarians are already within the gates and making more barbarians.
Andy says
SOROS trying to stop right wing party win in Italy
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Rd2hYR6DPw
FYI says
Pope francis might disagree:but then neither francis nor his worldly,wealthy, Opus Dei mafia which runs the church in the background from the Vatican actually follow the Gospel themselves.
francis is pro-mass immigration and a friend of islam.
A shame he’s not a friend of Christians(or,given his heretical teachings it seems…of Catholics)
The great heretic francis doesn’t even appear to follow the teachings on charity(Matthew chpt 6)when he’s bragging about his great love of the poor while washing their feet in public:and the worldly,wealthy,Opus Dei mafia,{the mammonites} are more enthused by money despite the fact that they appear on the surface to be ultracatholic.But a shiny apple sometimes has a rotten core.
{Opus dei is actually a little luciferian joke to those who are familiar with Catholic prophecies….Fatima 1917,Paul Vi’s “smoke of satan”,ecclesiastical freemasonry,the heretical Jesuit{the Black Pope}etc…but never mind:most catholics don’t want to know that.They want francis and his “Loving The Poor”(whilst he’s living the dream) Roadshow to go on..}
As for the pious Perego the “Bishop of migrants”; May I suggest writing to francis asking for a few bucks from the multi-billion dollar RCC’s funds?If you are not in you can’t win as they say ..and I’m sure Perego may be made a saint someday.Jesus loves false piety haha.
Perhaps the heretical foot-fetishist,Mr Bergolio,a,man who scandalizes Catholics, could offer the Vatican as a Refugee camp*.After all,given his great love of the poor I’m sure he won’t mind opening the Vatican vaults and giving it away.
It’s what Jesus would want,isn’t it?
*Just kick the Cardinals out of their fabulous apartments….I’m sure they won’t mind.Didn’t francis move into more Spartan accommodation in a blaze of publicity when he became “pope” boasting about his great love of the poor?Of course he’s still living in a fabulous mansion:But he made the gesture didn’t he?And as long as the media report it,that’s what counts isn’t it?
Sort of like a billionaire who spends a few,well-publicized, days each week in a tent out of respect for the environment….before jetting back to his fabulous mansion……..that’s what phoney francis is like.
RichardL says
my, my a conspiracy nut on JW. Or are you just a Catholic hater and are looking for an outlet.
Francis is at odds with many prominent members of Opus Dei. Martin Rhonheimer left Rome (he is still a professor at the Pontifical University) because he disagree with Pope Francis on virtually every social issue. He thinks islam is the religion of the devil and that important Mohammedans is pure madness. He thinks that socialism is pure evil. Martin Rhonheimer is giving talks at many Opus Dei universities. All of this is easily found on the Internet, whereas your conspiracy stuff requires all sorts of huge leaps of faith.
If Christians and Jews don’t stick together, I doubt we stand a chance. I also doubt that God likes those who split us.
I disagree with Francis. I also disagree with many American Christian denominations but I don’t vilify them. If anyone has, the Jesuits have influence over the Jesuit Pope.
Delphi says
Honestly, I’m a secular rationalist. Propaganda Deux and the “stay behind/anti communist” remainders of Freemasonry arn’t conspiracy – they’re historical fact. Or the assorted insanity with the Dutroux affair and all the connections from it. It’s quite possible that parts of Catholicism have become infiltrated by something particularly nasty – as for where exactly it came from, that’s a historical question, – but personally, my theory is as the Japanese have the Yakuza and the Chinese have the Triads, and both these organizations have a storied history, we have something similar..
Carolyne says
Some people think that if one criticizes the Pope they must be anti-Catholic. I don’t care who is the Pope of Roman Catholicism. So long as he doesn’t affect my life, let him rant and kiss feet. However, if he starts to have any substantial political influence vis a’ vis Islam and not just a figure of comic relief, I might consider him more malevolent. To me he is noting special. Just another man.
Save Europe says
Just responding to your response to Homest Ali. A Limey atheist here, and I loathe Islam. It isn’t a religion but a Death Cult. Quite a few atheists, ironically, see that.
Carolyne says
I am an Atheist too and I am a conservative republican. Being an Atheist doesn’t mean one cannot participate in civil discourse and hold conservative beliefs.
gravenimage says
I stand with you both against Islam, Carolyne and Save Europe.
mortimer says
Celibate, globalist bishops have no personal stake in the future, because they have no children or grandchildren who will be PERSECUTED by POLITICAL ISLAM.
gravenimage says
Mortimer, Catholic clergy have long defended against the depredations of Islam.
The idea that if you do not have children that you care nothing about what happens is *certainly* not always the case.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Yes, mithraist gospel commands ethnic cleansing as It happened in spain and Bosnia. But allows colonisation and deprivations of other nations to steal their ressources
Paul says
@Iblis Inspired Mohammedan,
The ‘prophet’ Mohammed dressed up as a woman, he raped a 9 year old girl
after ‘marrying’ her three years earlier, he beheaded hundreds of Jews who
had already surrendered to him, he lit a fire upon somebody’s chest in order
to locate gold and the koran confirms that Mohammed was possessed by satan.
You are not bothered about the satanic part, because you love Mohammed for
being a paedophile and a mass murderer, and it’s what you are yourself.
Your evil satanic and paedophile cult has murdered in excess of 270 million
people in 1,400 years.
Just do the decent thing and play in heavy traffic, please.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Paul, your God yahweh and his wife Ashera hero gods were drawn naked as instructed by the Satan (holy spirit).
Paul says
@Iblis Inspired Mohammedan,
Iblis, you are wrong as usual. Your ‘prophet’ encountered satan
in a cave, which is why he was anxious and depressed and tried
committing suicide. It’s a pity you don’t imitate that part of his life,
instead of the sadism and sexual deviancy mandated by the koran,
which you love so much.
Jayell says
Well, hello again, Mr. Mohammed. I’m sure you won’t charge nme for quoting you:-
“Paul, your God yahweh and his wife Ashera hero gods were drawn naked as instructed by the Satan (holy spirit).”
I’ve got three different versions of the Bible, and nowhere can I find a mention of Yahweh’s (Jehovah’s) wife. Do you think they’d had a row or something? Or maybe they’d got divorced by the time they started writing those ancient scrolls, and Yahweh’s agent told the publishers to keep shtum about the wife in case she demanded an increase in the alimony. And since Yahweh is not supposed to have a physical existence, it’s difficult to see how he can be naked or clothed (or married!), or anything, since there’s no substance to put clothes on. The only instances where Yahweh would be given a depiction as you suggest would be in artists’ impressions such as on the ceiling of the Sistine chapel, but Michelangelo never mentioned getting any instructions from Old Nick (as we call Satan in east London). And there’s no mention in Michelangelo’s biographies of Yahweh doing a portrait-sitting for him. Maybe you have privileged information, Mr Muhammed; highly likely, since, as a muslim, you would have direct contact with Satan. Or are you’re just making this rubbish up as you go along? We all know that muslims are excellent with being highly creative with the truth – assuming you know what that word is supposed to mean in English (not quite the same as in some Islamic pigeon dialect, I presume).
Keep the contributions coming, there’s a good chap. I don’t think we’ve had such a good laugh here in the UK since the BBC’s ‘Goon Show’ went off the air.
Kay says
We are all born naked.
Save Europe says
Satan? Do you mean your Paedo Prophet Moh???? Impossible. Your Satanic religion came 600 years after Christianity.
Peter.iredale says
My friends, avoid Mohamed here. This is a shill for Soros and SPLC…some loser sitting on a keyboard. Don’t fall for Her goading.
Stay focused on the battle ahead of us
j_not_a says
You fool, you know nothing about what you are talking. You sound high on drugs. Yahweh is the supreme being who has no “wife” I don’t know whether to pity you or laugh at you. So I’ll try to do the kind thing and pity you.
Carol (the 1st) says
Itty probably jumped in as a distraction because he didn’t like the interesting debate that was going on about PACIFISM toward Islam in light of the supposed message of Jesus.
blitz2b says
Ibrahim itace muhammed,
Did you know that Mohammed your unholy prophet personally met Satan in the cave at Hira, because after that he became suicidal frothed in the mouth and wanted to jump off a cliff, before his rich overaged wife Khatija consoled him with lies that he was a prophet…. Imagine that … Allah needed a secretary to tell his impotent chosen one that he was a prophet…. And you shamelessly believe this goof?
What an idiot!
R Russell says
Ibrahim.
The Bible Jesus loves you. He doesn’t do any of these things you complain of. He can lead you to love these people you hate.
But we will not submit to you or Allah. The Bible Jesus will triumph. Time to get to know him. You wont regret it
Carolyne says
For some reason, Ibrahim and other faithful Muslims seem to regard nakedness as the root of all evil. That’s just silly. The way man treats other men and women is more important than what he wears, or if he wears nothing at all. Being naked is not a sin. It might be against the law but not a sin.
Paul says
@Iblis Inspired Mohammedan,
There are people on this thread trying to turn you away from the evil
of Mohammedanism and embrace Christianity. They’re coming from
a good place and their efforts are commendable. However, that’s
something I would never try with you in a million years. While there
are muslims who are indeed coming to Christ, you are one of those
who love Mohammed precisely because he was a sadist, a murderer
and a paedophile. You are also proud of being satanically deceived and
seek to deceive others. It’s what you are, and for that there is NO cure
and they must understand that and not waste their time.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Maybe we believe that Christ is able to change even the worst of sinners……
Paul says
@LeftisruiningCanada,
Christ cannot make people want to change for the better.
He can present a viable alternative, but it’s up to them if they
take it. Will he be one of the many muslims saved? I wouldn’t
want to rule that out, but I really don’t see it at all.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Sure He can. Where does it say He can’t? Paul was on his way to capture and kill Christians, but when Paul’s freewill ran into Christ’s freewill, Christ’s won.
Remember, no man can come to Christ unless the Father draws him, and if the Father draws him, Christ will raise him up on the last day. And, we aren’t born again by our own will.
Thankfully, God knows what is best for His people. If Ibrahim is one of them, however hateful of Christ Jesus he is now can be changed in a moment.
Paul says
@LeftisruiningCanada,
Well, I hope you’re right and I’m wrong, I really do.
It would indeed require a miracle for him to change.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Indeed it would Paul, and all the glory would be God’s as is right and good 🙂
If not, then the glory will still be God’s, as Ibrahim’s judgment would be so very Just.
Ibrahim’s concern should be in crying out to the merciful Judge in repentance before that day comes round.
don vito says
itace, to quote your prophet, ” bite the penis of your father.” I love to quote your prophet to you, itace, I feel so superior to you because you are ignorant of your faith….and we kufr aren’t. -40.564
AleX says
You are the Bacha Bazi of your master muh Hoe-MAD. Keep dancing on his screeching tunes, boy!
Save Europe says
Cleansing like what is happening to the Copts in Egypt, Christians in Pakistan and Bangladesh? And by the way – a Bosniak is exactly the same ethnicity as a non Muslim Bosnian. You’re too stupid to realise that.
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed is pretending that failing to let in hordes of Muslims to rape and murder us is “ethnic cleansing”. What grotesque calumny.
WorkingClassPost says
He’s absolutely right.
The Bible is quite clear on this issue:-
2nd John Chapter 1 (Catholic version)
7 There are many deceivers at large in the world, refusing to acknowledge Jesus Christ as coming in human nature. They are the Deceiver; they are the Antichrist.
8 Watch yourselves, or all our work will be lost and you will forfeit your full reward.
9 If anybody does not remain in the teaching of Christ but goes beyond it, he does not have God with him: only those who remain in what he taught can have the Father and the Son with them.
10 If anyone comes to you bringing a different doctrine, you must not receive him into your house or even give him a greeting.
11 Whoever greets him has a share in his wicked activities.
Whether you are a believer or not, that’s what it says, just don’t ask me what the pope is reading…
RichardL says
@ Honest Ali & Stella: I am not good at explaining today. I agree with you 100% and was just focusing on other aspects. I try to keep it short. Too short sometimes
Peter says
Only a fool turns the other cheek or loves his neighbor if that neighbor is intent on doing one harm (murder, enslavement, subjugation, systemic persecution, expulsion) or stealing one’s property (including taking over one’s country or destroying its culture and “man-made” laws).
Save Europe says
I’d never turn the other cheek for Ibrahim Itace! I’d be too concerned he would attempt to sodomise me.
gravenimage says
I think that is a quite reasonable concern…
Gary says
Boy did Salvini get it wrong on that statement ” In my Italy, immigration has rules, numbers and limits as in America and Canada. Well has he checked out the numbers since PM Justin “Jihad ” Trudeau has come into ” Power “… With our open border, and Islamic only immigration we are about to start feeling his pain.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Yes, the comparison with Canada is misplaced at the moment.
CogitoErgoSum says
Christ’s great commission to his disciples was to spread His teachings across the world and to baptize those who accept His teachings in the name of the Father, Son and Holy Spirit (Matthew 28:16:20). However, Christ also told His disciples to leave behind those who REJECT His teachings (Matthew 10:14). Yes, a Christian should love his neighbor per the parable of the Good Samaritan,(Luke 10:25-37)) and one should pray for his enemies (Matthew 5:43:48) but that does NOT mean a Christian is obligated to welcome all strangers and even his enemies into his house.
If love of one’s neighbor (and enemies) means providing everyone with all the material goods they need in order to live in this world, then Christ Himself failed miserably. But bringing physical comfort to all mankind was not Christ’s mission. In John 18:37 we are told the reason Christ came into the world ……. to bear witness to the Truth … and those who seek the Truth LISTEN to Christ. Those who listen will find eternal life while those who do not will be left behind to the suffer a fate worse than the death of the body.
So is providing physical aid and comfort to our neighbors and even our enemies a Christian’s main duty? No, it is to find the Truth and to help others find the Truth so that we all may someday live forever with God. The Christian’s main duty is to provide for the SPIRITUAL needs of others. If the Pope and his clergy are not doing this the love they profess to have in their hearts for others is meaningless and they are failing as Christians to follow the command given to them by Christ.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Good points. The shift towards the so called “social gospel” has come at great expense to the Church’s primary task in the world.
Carol (the 1st) says
Judas Iscariot was there. Judas was one of Jesus’ followers. (He was the one that would later be against Jesus.) {Judas did not like what Mary did.} Judas said, “That perfume was worth 300 silver coins. It should have been sold, and the money should have been given to the poor people.” But Judas did not really care about poor people. Judas said this because he was a thief. Judas was the one that kept the money box {for the group of followers}. And Judas often stole money from the box.
— John 12:4-6 NLT
Indiana Tom says
“Now I understood why on the left they are so angry, they would like to swear on the Quran.”….and soon they will.
Savvy Kafir says
Even if the gospel did say to welcome everyone, that would be an excellent directive to ignore.
Yogi says
Deport, deport all this savages cannibals !!!, they don’t have place in Europe… get them back where they come from , is just a waste of time and money.. they don’t belong to this Christian continent …
6woods says
This is stupid. Why can’t I reply to StellaSaidSo at 9:22am i.e. not all atheists are leftists? I’m an atheist, or non-religious (I don’t believe in any ‘higher power ‘).
Is it leftist to be supportive of gay rights and gay marriage? Is it leftist to believe that a woman should be able to have an abortion, as long as it’s not taxpayer funded?
This is where it gets confusing: is it leftist or alt-right (I.e. nazi) to believe that a gay woman who has had an abortion can refuse to wear a hijab? Damn these labels!
gravenimage says
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Eric jones says
In the New Testament Jesus orders his disciples to sell their cloaks and buy swords. When soldiers came to arrest Jesus Peter cut off the ear of one of the soldiers with a sword. Jesus healed the soldier on the spot. To me this implies that Christians have a right of self defense even though we are instructed to be peaceful.
In the Sermon on the Mount Jesus ask the people which one of them would give their child a stone when the child ask for bread? This implies that Christian charity applies to ourselves as well as others.
Christ died on the Cross to save our souls . His early followers martyrdom was an example of strong faith no matter what. Christ completed his job on the cross. We Christians today do not have to remain defenseless, we to not have to give our all away, nor to we have to be martyrs. We do have to witness and love the Lord with all of our heart, soul and mind. We must repent.
Eric
Peterson says
Jesus message is love thy neighbor. He also clarified who your neighbor is. It is not anyone who passed by. In the name of love if you bring in vipers you will have to pay a price for that.
Politicianophobia says
6woods, I believe there is a higher power, I have since I was very young, I no longer go to church but I will never stop loving God. I believe a lot of people love God when things are going good. I do not believe in abortion, I have gay friends, you are right we have so many llabels, we live in a label world, if you do not agree with someone, there is a label for you. Hate is spreading through labels, I like to think we should all love one another but I do draw the line when it come to Islam. How could you say you love someone and beat them, tell them what they can wear, have 4 wives, sex slaves, use small children, rob them of a childhood? Islam is sex and sex is Islam.
6woods says
You can believe whatever you want, as long as you don’t force it on anyone else through violence and terror. This is where mo’s cult and most other beliefs part company.
gravenimage says
Spot on.
Politicianophobia says
Proverbs15: My son, walk not thou in the way with them; refrain thy foot from their path: 16: For their feet fun to evil, and make haste to shed blood.
Politicianophobia says
run
gravenimage says
Italian leader slams pro-migrant bishop: “The Gospel doesn’t say to welcome everyone”
…………………….
Bravo, Matteo Salvini!
6woods says
I prefer to go with innate human compassion – conscience – rather than what any holy book says.
gravenimage says
Basic human compassion does not demand that you let in people who are going to rape and murder you, either.
Ray Jarman says
I agree with almost everyone on this thread but most of these animals don’t meet the threshold of refugee. Most if not all of those arriving via boats are primarily Sub-Saharan Africans who only want the freebies that they can receive from the EU. Neither Nigeria, while it has a corrupt government, nor Ghana which is ruled fairly honestly are at war and no one can claim refugee status by the definition of refugee. These are the thugs on the streets of Napoli, Roma, Milano and other cities in Italy and the Syrians that have made it there are mostly men who should be fighting for their families if they have any convictions, which I most assuredly doubt. Cowards and deadbeats do not meet my definition of refugee regardless of what the Communist in the Vatican proclaims.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Agreed. The idea that anyone should come into your country (or home) to stay forever just because it’s nicer than their own, is very strange.