The Turkish daily newspaper Yeni Şafak, which is said to be close to Islamic supremacist despot President Recep Tayyip Erdogan and his ruling AKP party, published an article titled “A Call for Urgent Action.” The article called on Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) member states “to form a joint ‘Army of Islam’ to besiege and attack the state of Israel.” The article included a strategic plan with an interactive map and hailed Pakistan, “the only nuclear country,” saying that it has “‘a special status’ among the OIC countries.”
Given the direction of Erdogan — who has repeatedly expressed ambitions for a revived Ottoman Empire — this jihadi “call for urgent action” against Israel is troubling.
After the 2016 Turkish coup attempt, a Fox report noted that a virulent form of anti-Semitism had become “a feature, not a bug” in Turkey, and that even the “Gülen boogeyman meme takes on shades of ‘must be the Jews’ as well. Pro-Erdogan media have claimed that exiled cleric Fethullah Gülen must have Jewish lineage, thereby putting Jews at the center of the supposed coup plot.”
Israeli Muslim politician Taleb Abu Arar also accused Israel of supporting the coup in Turkey.
Also, not long ago, 90,000 mosques invokec Qur’anic “conquest” prayers calling on Muslims to be “ruthless against unbelievers,” right before Erdogan’s troops were deployed against the Kurds.
“Turkish Newspaper Close To President Erdogan Calls To Form Joint Islamic Army To Fight Israel”, MEMRI, March 7, 2018:
Introduction
On December 12, 2017, ahead of the summit of the Organization of Islamic Cooperation (OIC) in Istanbul, the Turkish daily Yeni Şafak, which is close to President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan and his ruling AKP party, published an article titled “A Call for Urgent Action,”[1] which also appeared on the paper’s website under the title “What If an Army of Islam Was Formed against Israel?”[2] The article called on the 57 member states of the OIC to form a joint “Army of Islam” to besiege and attack the state of Israel. It notes that such a joint army will greatly exceed the Israeli army in manpower, equipment and budget, and presents statistics to prove this. It also advocates establishing joint bases for the army’s ground, air and naval forces that will arrive from all over the Muslim world to besiege Israel, while noting that Pakistan, as the only nuclear country, has “a special status” among the OIC countries. An interactive map provides information on military forces stationed in various locations and the role they can play in the potential joint Muslim attack on Israel.
The Source Of The Yeni Şafak Article: The SADAT Company Website
The main points of the article are taken from the website of the Turkish SADAT International Defense and Consulting Company, which provides consultancy on defense and warfare, both conventional and unconventional, and on military organization, training and gear. The company has an agenda of promoting pan-Islamic military cooperation. According to its mission statement, it seeks “to establish defense collaboration and defense industry cooperation among Islamic countries, to help the Islamic world take its rightful place among the superpowers by providing… strategic consultancy and training services to the militaries and homeland security forces of Islamic countries.”[3]
According to Israeli security sources, the SADAT company is involved in aiding Hamas, and seeks to assist – with funds and military gear – the creation of a “Palestine Army” to fight Israel.[4]
SADAT Founder Adnan Tanrıverdi
The SADAT company was founded by Erdoğan’s senior advisor on military affairs, retired general Adnan Tanrıverdi, and is chaired by his son, Melih Tanrıverdi. Adnan Tanrıverdi (b. 1944) served in the Turkish army’s Artillery Corps and headed the Home Front Command in northern Cyprus. He is an expert on assymetric warfare, and was dismissed from the Turkish military in 1996 for his Islamists leadnings. A former Turkish army officer, Ahmet Yavuz, described him as “an enemy of Atatürk” and stated that his dismissal from the army was not surprising…..
christianblood says
Like Saudi Arabia and the oil-rich, Sunni Gulf theocracies,Turkey is US and,Nato ally. In fact, US keeps its nukes pointed at Russia in military basis in the Islamic Turkey! These nukes are at risk of being seized by islamic terrorist groups based in Turkey. Read more of this below:
http://www.newsweek.com/us-nukes-turkey-airbase-risk-falling-hands-terrorists-report-490358
Fred H says
Let them bring it on if they think they are tough enough.
Westman says
Yes, it’s pure hot air, like the claims made by merchants while haggling in the open-air marketplace.
First, the OIC nations can’t cooperate on anything beyond complaining about Israel at the UN.
Second, there is no example of successful military cooperation between them. It’s doubtful that Arab nations can agree on a command structure and authority. In every coordinated attack on Israel, the Arabs lost. Israel gave back the Sinai it could have kept and have shared Jerusalem which they could have taken completely. The Arab world calls it The Disaster.
Third, Saudi Arabia, the keeper of Mecca is unlikely to participate. After losing another war on Israel, the “OIC Army” remnants may not be welcome to visit Mecca.
Fourth, with the current US administration, the US would respond to any coordinated attack on Israel even if it meant destroying the economy of every participating Muslim nation.
Fifth, the loss of such a large scale war, where 10’s to 100’s of millions might die, would accelerate the decline of Islam; a clear message that Allah is NOT willing, or, may not even exist. This is the last outcome that Islam’s parasitic clerics would desire.
J D S says
Once again…..I repeat….if a nation is allied with another nation that is Israel’s enemy then that nation becomes God’s enemy……What about that oh leaders of the west? Does that not matter to you….It’s no wonder the west is in such disarray Get as far away from Turkey as possible. Foreign aid, NATO …STOP it now.
rajeshkiran says
They’ll definately make their mother cry if they unite and form an Army
mortimer says
“IT’S THE IDEOLOGY, STUPID!”
NATO is RUN by STUPID politicians who do not understand that ISLAM IS AN EMPIRIAL IDEOLOGY bent on WORLD CONQUEST.
The most important way to defeat Islam is IDEOLOGICALLY.
If NO ONE BELIEVES in ISLAM, IT WILL FALL… IT WILL FAIL.
The SOVIET UNION COLLAPSED because NO ONE… absolutely NO ONE in the Soviet Union believed in COMMUNISM. They saw it doesn’t work.
WE MUST REMOVE THE ABILITY OF MUSLIMS TO BELIEVE IN ISLAM… IDEOLOGICALLY… through massive governmentally-funded “ABSOLUTE DEPROGRAMMING”.
Here is an example of “ABSOLUTE DEPROGRAMMING”:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAt0GQBKR4g
krishna says
hmm nice video
gravenimage says
This Muslim apostate is a brave man.
krishna says
israel has US ,FRENCH ,BRITISH,INDIAN OR may be saudi arabian as manpower
J D S says
Hey folks let’s go Biblical with this.
We are aligned with Turkey. ..didn’t God say something about those who were aginst the Jews were against HIM…MY WORDS
We need to cut all ties with Turkey or for that matter any nation who is against israel.
gravenimage says
Yes–Turkey is no ally of ours.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
It is a nice idea that Turkey should withdraw from NATO and form à coalation of muslim forces to protect muslim nations as ottoman Turks did.
mortimer says
Ibrahim, you really do want a genocidal WWIII as we already knew. But consider this: 1) All is supposed to be all-knowing 2) if you go to war in our era, nuclear weapons will be used. 3) if nuclear weapons are used, retaliation will escalate to an all-out nuclear conflagration 4) the conflagration will destroy the earth 4) Muslims will have nothing to rule if the earth is destroyed 5) jihadi will be pointless, resulting in the death of all Muslims 6) therefore, Allah foreknew this would happen, thus Allah wants all Muslims to be exterminated 7) since Allah wants to trick all Muslims to MURDER THEMSELVES, then Allah contradicts himself in the Koran, since Muslims cannot rule if they are dead and if the world is dead 8) Since Allah did not foresee NUCLEAR CONFLAGRATION, therefore Allah is not all-knowing and the Koran and Islam are false.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
mortimer, you are just projecting that Muslims Will lose thé war and be exterminated. Muslims Will win thé war and justice Will prevail. Do you know that some muslim nations have sophiscated military techonogy that could render nuclear weapons ineffective ? And Muslims have capabilities to produce more powerful nuclear warheads if they choose to do so.you are just myopic under rating Muslims.
LeftisruiningCanada says
mohammad decoder rings and covering nuclear bombs in nails or other shrapnel doesn’t count.
gravenimage says
Also, look at Ibrahim itace muhammed’s claim that if Muslims lose they will be exterminated.
This is crap, of course. Muslims have attacked Israel before, and she just fights them off until they stop attacking.
It is *Muslims* who exterminate their victims, not Infidels defending themselves against Muslim aggresion.
Eur says
Could you tell me what a Muslim nation is? I have it clear but maybe you have another point of view. Officially Turkey is a secular nation. I do not agree that there are Christian, Buddhist, Jewish, Muslim nations … but it is evident that Muslims have another point of view …all of you are theocratic. The international support of the Palestinian cause is precisely getting muddied by religion. In the West, these proclamations are not understood as saying that Palestine is Muslim and arab (nor that Israel is a Jewish nation). Muslims who have come to the West insist that Islam is a religion like any other but the facts are different. What the fuck is a Muslim nation? That which is governed by the sharia? The one that has Islam as the official religion? That which has as a majority population people who profess Islam? In the West, do Muslims also want their religion to be the official one and to convert the countries into confessional? It is evident that yes.
CogitoErgoSum says
That is a question I would like answered also. I’m pretty sure that the U.S. and Israel are a part of Dar al-Harb but just where is Dar al-Islam??? …. or does Dar al-Islam even exist today? Is the entire world now considered Dar al-Harb since there is not a Caliphate? Would the Islamic Republic of Iran be considered Dar al-Islam (but only by the Shia and not by the Sunni)? Can anyone elaborate on this subject?
gravenimage says
Well, one way to consider this is members of the OIC.
Another is nations actually under Shari’ah law.
CRUSADER says
It’s a nicer idea that Turkey withdrawals from Byzantium and Anatolia
so that Christianity can reclaim what Islamic Jihad expropriated and
whose culture, science and arts were appropriated by Muslims.
Turkish Ottomans can find a home in Palestinian Jordan!
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Did Turks Come from Jordan or palestine ? They had been there from time immemorial and they Will continue to be there forever as Muslims. you hate Turks simply because they are muslims. There is nothing you can do.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Maybe they could go back to the Steppe?
gravenimage says
The dishonest Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
Did Turks Come from Jordan or palestine ? They had been there from time immemorial and they Will continue to be there forever as Muslims. you hate Turks simply because they are muslims. There is nothing you can do.
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The idea that that Turkey has always been Muslim is of course ludicrously false. Muslims started to invade Anatolia–previously almost entirely Christian–in the seventh century, and conquered Constantinople in 1453. This is common knowledge.
It is also common knowledge that the Turkish tribes originally came from the central Asian steppes.
As for Turks being Muslim, there was until recently, even under Muslim conquest, a large Christian population in Turkey–albeit terribly oppressed. But a hundred years ago Muslims in Turkey slaughtered almost the entire remaining Christian population in the horrifying Armenian Genocide, which, besides Armenian Christians, also targed Assyrian, Greek, and Levantine Christians. The final toll may have been as high as two million murdered.
There is only a tiny remnant of Christians remaining in Turkey today.
Ray Jarman says
I will second that motion Crusader. +1
CRUSADER says
The Motion Passes!!!
Will somebody please inform Mayflower or U-Haul that the Turks will be moving?
gravenimage says
The appalling Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
It is a nice idea that Turkey should withdraw from NATO and form à coalation of muslim forces to protect muslim nations as ottoman Turks did.
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Isn’t it great that Ibrahim itace muhammed is pretending that Turkey’s calling for Muslims to ipe out Israel is “protection”, given that Israel is not threatening Turkey or any other Muslim country.
When Muslims pretend that violent Jihad is defensive, this is what they mean.
More, in reply to Mortimer:
mortimer, you are just projecting that Muslims Will lose thé war and be exterminated. Muslims Will win thé war and justice Will prevail.
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“Justice”, as this pious Muslim sees it, is attacking an non-agreessive country and committing genocide against its inhabitants.
Ibrahim itace muhammed himself has said the he looks forward to taking part of the genocide of the Jews. *Ugh*.
More:
Do you know that some muslim nations have sophiscated military techonogy that could render nuclear weapons ineffective ? And Muslims have capabilities to produce more powerful nuclear warheads if they choose to do so.you are just myopic under rating Muslims.
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Really? Muslims have “sophiscated military techonogy” that neutralizes nuclear weapons? Is this as accurate as everything else Ibrahim itace muhammed pulls out of his *ss? (This is a rhetorical question, of course).
LeftisruiningCanada says
Wish that erdogvan was standing with that sun emblem right behind his head.
It would nicely symbolize what he thinks of himself.
mortimer says
The road ahead will get rough for Erdogan as the Turkish billionaires turn on him.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Hope so. But sometimes backing a mad dog into a corner doesn’t make him lay down.
Ray Jarman says
Yes but I think that he has a suicide as surely he would be killed if he went to war.
esther says
itace—try spell check
gravenimage says
🙂
Older Canadian says
I wonder what would be the response if it was said, if one, just one attack upon Israel by a coalition of arab states, then all trade with, and all financial aid, and all UN privileges with all arab states, whether they participate in this folly or not, will cease immediately, and never, ever return. Just a thought.
gravenimage says
Good point. We should not be giving all the aid to Muslims, in any case.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
order canadian, Turkey is economically buoyant, not dépendant on your poisonous aid. It is coalation of all muslims, not Arabs. Arabs constitutes less than 10% of world muslim population.
LeftisruiningCanada says
10% is more than enough to cause trouble
😉
CRUSADER says
Buoyant due to learning how from The West.
Russian trade exchange has helped…
Location helps a lot as well.
It’ll be great for Byzantium to take over the Keys of Constantinople once again.
Don’t let the gate hit your rump on your way out, Ottoman Turks!
gravenimage says
Turkey was only (comparatively) prosperous for a Muslim country due to its leagcy of suppressing Islam. Today under Erdogan is fast re-Islamizing.
Turkey does not hav oil, like most of the Gulf States.
Historically, Islam has only prospered when it has been able to invade, conquer, and enslave Infidels. Not much of an economic model…
LeftisruiningCanada says
Turkish leadership has for a long time been interested in a “Pan-Turkic” union with Azerbaijan, Uzbek/Kazakh/Turkmen/Krygz/istan.
At one time they were talking of shared currency, trade, everything, but it never really got going.
I wonder if they are still trying to work something in this direction. The increased access to Caspian oil and gas wouldn’t hurt them. They already have long distance pipelines running from Az.
Guy Forester says
It is obvious that Erdogan is a megalomaniac. His call to arms is a farce, but he will in the not so distant future do something utterly stupid.
1. Iran and Egypt also see themselves as the leaders of the muslim world and will not support any army led by Turks. All three hate and distrust each other.
2. Russia has its own designs on that part oft the world and would not let Turkey move through Syria to get to Israel.
3. Israel has a small but modern, well trained, and very aggressive military. The US will back them up.
Note to Erdogan: Trying to take Cyprus or any of the nearby greek islands will result in the removal of your navy and air force if DJT and Israel decide to act.
CRUSADER says
In esteemed Bat Ye’or has seemed to be concerned over the OIC:
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https://www.jihadwatch.org/2010/09/bat-yeor-oic-and-the-modern-caliphate
*** Bat Ye’or: OIC and the Modern Caliphate ***
In “OIC and the Modern Caliphate” in the American Thinker, September 26 (thanks to Pamela Geller), the world’s leading scholar of Islamic antisemitism, dhimmitude, and the Islamization of Europe, Bat Ye’or, exposes the Organization of the Islamic Conference:
The Organization of the Islamic Conference (OIC) is a religious and political organization. Close to the Muslim World League of the Muslim Brotherhood, it shares the Brotherhood’s strategic and cultural vision: that of a universal religious community, the Ummah, based upon the Koran, the Sunna, and the canonical orthodoxy of shari’a. The OIC represents 56 countries and the Palestinian Authority (considered a state), the whole constituting the universal Ummah with a community of more than one billion three to six hundred million Muslims.
The OIC has a unique structure among nations and human societies. The Vatican and the various churches are de facto devoid of political power, even if they take part in politics, because in Christianity, as in Judaism, the religious and political functions have to be separated. Asian religions, too, do not represent systems that bring together religion, strategy, politics, and law within a single organizational structure.
Not only does the OIC enjoy unlimited power through the union and cohesion of all its bodies, but also to this it adds the infallibility conferred by religion. Bringing together 56 countries, including some of the richest in the world, it controls the lion’s share of global energy resources. The European Union (EU), far from anticipating the problems caused by such a concentration of power and investing in the diversification and autonomy of energy sources since 1973, acted to weaken America internationally in order to substitute for it the U.N., the OIC’s docile agent. In the hope of garnering a few crumbs of influence, the EU privileged a massive Muslim immigration into Europe, paid billions to the Mediterranean Union and Palestinian Authority, weakened the European states, undermined their unity, and wrapped itself in the flag of Palestinian justice, as though this would supply some protective system against the global jihad, which it endeavored to focus on Israel.
Religion as the main aspect of the OIC emerges from its language and its targets. It seems that the OIC is restoring in the 21st century the Caliphate, the supreme controlling body for all Muslims. In their Charter (2008), Member States confirm that their union and solidarity are inspired by Islamic values. They affirm their aim to reinforce within the international arena their shared interests and the promotion of Islamic values. They commit themselves to revitalizing the pioneering role of Islam in the world, increasing the prosperity of the member states, and — in contrast to to the European states — to ensure the defense of their national sovereignty and territorial integrity. They proclaim their support for Palestine with al-Quds Al Sharif, the Arabized name for Jerusalem, as its capital, and exhort each other to promote human rights, basic freedoms, the state of law (shari’a), and democracy according to their constitutional and legal system — in other words, compliance with shari’a….
gravenimage says
Turkish paper close to Erdogan calls for OIC “army of Islam” attack against Israel
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Bloody barbarians. Muslims *hate* the idea of Jews living in freedom from Islam.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
jewish slave Gravenimage, did mithraist Christian Byzantines ,crusaders, church leaders in spain and Christian Nazis allow Jews to be free as Jews ? They killed them. In return, they have been spilling muslim bloods. Muslims have to stop that
gravenimage says
The Byzantine Empire has not existed for hundreds of years–it was destroyed by ravening Muslims.
The implication that Muslims freed Jews is grotesque–Jews suffered horribly under Islam.
What Ibrahim itace muhammed is here saying is that Jews should allow Muslims to destroy Israel and re-enslave them. Sorry–the Isrealis are not going to roll over for Muslim conquest.
By the way, most Muslims *love* Hitler and the Holocaust.
Mark Swan says
A Multinational Caliphate will form in the Middle East.
Mohamed Bouazizi was trying to support his family as a street vendor when Tunisian police confiscated his vegetable cart and produce…In protest…he burned himself to death in an act that sparked a wave of protests leading to the toppling of Tunisia’s 26-year-old Ben Ali regime…so the story goes.
Isis has helped change the political and social landscape of the Middle East
The likelihood…the danger…is that more Islam government will be on the horizon…Islam’s political philosophy advocates the rule of nations (and eventually the whole world…through conversion or conquest) by the many centuries of Sharia law built on the foundation of the Muslim book…the Quran.
When Muslim-majority nations have the opportunity to hold democratic elections to choose their government…they elect Islam candidates…even when those candidates oppose the very democracy that allowed their election.
When voters in the Palestinian Authority territories chose members of the Palestinian Legislative Council…A plurality voted for Hamas…Since then…Hamas has gained strength among Palestinians…few believe that the organization is committed to democracy…Votes or not…it is assumed…Hamas will continue to press its agenda of Islamist theocracy and Sharia law…a Caliphate in miniature.
Iran is an Islam republic…with an Islam constitution…It wasn’t until the impeachment of secular President Abulhassan Banisadr…that clerical dominance in the Iranian regime became clear…Iran Strongly Influences Iraq…Syria…and Lebanon…and anywhere it can.
Recep Tayyip Erdogan…currently Prime Minister of Turkey…once quipped (Democracy is like a streetcar…You ride it until you arrive at your destination and then you step off).
In Egypt…95 percent of Muslims said that it is good for Islam to play a large role in politics…80 percent said that it would be bad for Islam to play a small role in politics…It is little wonder that Muslims frequently vote for Islam parties when they are permitted a choice.
Saudi Arabia…Kuwait…Bahrain…Yemen…the United Arab Emirates…Are Islam Governments and have regional influence.
The term Caliphate means the dominion of a Caliph and refers to the system of government originally established under Islam…Under the Caliphate…the head of state is the Caliph who governs in accordance with Islamic law…a major event could cause these countries to elect a Caliph…and declare a Caliphate.
Is it a major step to go from dictatorship to Caliphate…support for such a development seems widespread across the Middle East…Middle East use of democracy…has led some in the West to envision Western-style democracies taking root…However…we should remember that under Sunni Islam…the Caliph is elected…A democratic restoration of the Caliphate may now be thinkable.
If a Multinational Caliphate is established in the Middle East…it can have an effect on the collective identity of the Europeans…It has been less than 300 years since Europe last faced the threat of Muslim invasion…a threat that was instrumental in the formation of a shared European identity throughout the Middle Ages…Now there is again a perceived and stated threat from Islam…as Muslims call for holy war and restoration of the Caliphate.
Hassan al-Banna…the founder of Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood…wrote (Andalusia [the Muslim name for Spain]…Sicily…the Balkans…south Italy…and the Roman sea islands were all Islamic lands that have to be restored to the homeland of Islam…it is our right to restore the Islam Empire its glory)…If the Islam Caliphate is restored…it can have an effect on Europe…The religious winds that are blowing across the Middle East can blow across Europe as well.
For more than 30 years…an uneasy peace has been maintained between Egypt and Israel…But it has not been a popular peace…We should remember that…because of his efforts for peace…Egypt’s Sadat was assassinated…by a group of Islam nationalists associated with the Muslim Brotherhood…who are kept out of power…for now…by the Military leadership imposed on the country.
God prophesied that in the decades just prior to Christ’s return…the Jews will have returned to Judea and Jerusalem…where they will be opposed by the surrounding nations… “In that day I will make the governors of Judah like a firepan in the woodpile, and like a fiery torch in the sheaves; they shall devour all the surrounding peoples on the right hand and on the left, but Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place—Jerusalem” (Zechariah 12:6)…In past decades…this remarkable prophecy has been fulfilled before our eyes. We have witnessed Israel put down multinational attack from surrounding Arab neighbors.
The Bible also reveals that later in this same time period…a great religio-political power will arise…in Europe….the same Europe (North of Jerusalem) that was threatened by attacks from the Caliphate for more than a thousand years…This power will be an alliance of nations or groups of nations…(Daniel 2:31–46)…This power will be involved in a treaty that will allow the Jews to resume their sacrifices somewhere at or around the Temple Mount (Daniel 9:27; 11:31; 2 Thessalonians 2:4).
Such a revival of this Jewish practice would galvanize Muslim opposition…yet preparations for those sacrifices are being made today by Orthodox Jews familiar with the ancient rituals.
Biblical prophecy also reveals that a power will arise…to the south of Jerusalem ( either Saudi Arabia or Egypt will have this caliph, a leader which controls the whole Caliphate)…that will “push at” or provoke this powerful king of the north…The northern power will defeat this king of the south powerfully…and in the process Jerusalem will be overrun and occupied (Daniel 11:40–45).
Finally…when the Temple Mount sacrifices are stopped…the prophesied Great Tribulation will begin…culminating with the return of Jesus Christ…just 3 1/2 years after the tribulation begins.
So a Substantial Caliphate will form in the Middle East…it will have a serious conflict…with a power far greater than its own…it will be completely defeated…so says the Bible.
gravenimage says
Mark–with all respect–civilized Isreal is *not* devouring her neighbors.
CRUSADER says
Now for something completely different:
A bit of humor in the midst of seriousity.
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“Kemal Ataturk – The Man”, book foreword by Paul Anka
who had an entire menagerie called Abdul….(video minute marker 3:30)
Monty Python — “Fish License” (“Cat Detector Van”) skit
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5MnyRZLd8A
This is what to expect as maddening Muslim populations grow to agitate
and overwhelm our civil services and licensing departments….
Oh! What a future to look forward to…just ask Sweden and the UK.
Manos says
It’s time time to unleash a biological weapon on these filthy Islamo Turks and pakis. Islam is pure evil. Even the majority Sri Lankan Buddhist have upraised began torching Muslim mosques and 34 homes after a Buddhist monk was stabbed by a Muslim
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Hanos, Bhudhists, Hindus, evil Jews and christians are all out to exterminate Muslims because their creeds are by inspired by thé Satan as part of his rébellion against God. All of them Will be casted into hottest lake of hellfire burning together with the Satan (holy spirit) who misled them.
Eur says
Today I do not consider myself a Christian because I do not practice any religion but my society has a Christian heritage. When I was a kid I went to church (every Sunday … what a boring thing) they never mentioned Islam or any other religion … maybe a little Judaism because of the historical context in which Jesus supposedly lived. I only knew of the existence of Islam in school when we studied history, geography …. Rest assured that there is no Christian plot to exterminate Muslims.
kouldb says
No. But there should be now.
gravenimage says
kouldb proves once again that he is an agent provocateur.
LeftisruiningCanada says
“all out to exterminate Muslims”
Hardly Ibrahim. However you define who a Christian is, you’ll find that there are more who are welcoming islam to the West than there are seeking to destroy islam or kill muslims.
Haven’t you been paying attention here? Most of the stories are about how the West seems to be committing suicide by muslim.
“are all out to exterminate Muslims because their creeds are by inspired by thé Satan as part of his rébellion against God”
And, those that would like to see islam disappear do not hold that belief because they are rebelling against God. They believe it because islam, since it’s inception, has been self declaredly out to dominate the world and every person in it.
You can’t be so blind or deluded to not see how your religion breeds most of the vicious cowardly murderous attacks upon people just going about their business. And i don’t just mean in the West either.
Most of us would be happy if islam was ejected from our countries, never to foam at the mouth within our gates again. We don’t want it, don’t need it, and sure as goodness won’t change to make it more at home with us.
Just as a point of interest, who do you mean when you say “Christian”? How do you define who is a Christian?
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Leftruinigcanada, but is only few of you myopics t’aking those old concocted lies against islam by Christian evangelists passed to the West to maintain mithraist christianity who do not want See muslims and Islam there. Those with open minds have long rejected those concocted lies and realised that those terrorists holding perverted interpretation of islam are not representing what Islam truely teaches. That is why Mr Spencer and his vanguard of hate propagandas against muslims and Islam are not popular among these people.
LeftisruiningCanada says
And yet you do nothing to correct those “concocted lies”.
You seem to want us to believe them, judging by your behavior here.
Why might that be, Mr Ibrahim?
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
Leftruinigcanada, but is only few of you myopics t’aking those old concocted lies against islam by Christian evangelists passed to the West to maintain mithraist christianity who do not want See muslims and Islam there.
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Notice that Ibrahim itace muhammed has never once been able to point to a single one of these supposed lies. This should not surprise–in Islam a “lie” is not something that is untrue, but something Muslims do not want revealed about Islam or individual Muslims. There is even a term for this–“Ghiba”.
More:
Those with open minds have long rejected those concocted lies and realised that those terrorists holding perverted interpretation of islam are not representing what Islam truely teaches. That is why Mr Spencer and his vanguard of hate propagandas against muslims and Islam are not popular among these people.
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Of course, the claim that Jihadist terrorists are not Islamic is ridiculous.
Ibrahim itace muhammed has made this claim before–that groups like Boko Haram and ISIS are actually “Americans” or “Zionists”–despite his being unable to point to a single thing they do that is not orthodox Islam.
In fact, he himself has affirmed that Muslims can “marry” little children, rape Infidel women and keep them as sex slaves, and slaughter all Infidels who do not submit to Islam, and to do the same to any apostates from Islam.
How this is anything but Jihad, he never says.
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
Hanos, Bhudhists, Hindus, evil Jews and christians are all out to exterminate Muslims because their creeds are by inspired by thé Satan as part of his rébellion against God.
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What are “Hanos”? Who knows. But the dishonest Ibrahim itace muhammed’s claim is clear–that any Infidels who dare resist Jihad are “out to exterminate Muslims”. What sickening projection.
kouldb says
This will be the first & last time I will remotely agree with Erdoğan & anyone remotely connected to him: It is no secret Israel has long had dreams of cleansing the Middle East & Africa of as many Muslims as possible. Then occupying & claiming the lands for the Jews via more “settlements” — just as they’ve done with Palestine & the Golan Heights in Syria. And, it’s thanks in great part to those dreams that the west & Europe are now flooded with Muslim refugees & immigrants. They don’t even try to hide it from us. Meanwhile, forget not that the similarities between Judaism & Islam are considerable. Right down to women in both cults wearing burqas. Speaking of which — if either religion had been invented in the west or Europe, and especially considering the atrocities that have been committed in their names, particular Islam — they would have been declared dangerous cults. Then made illegal. But, because the majority of Jews & Muslims are of a different shade — western & European nations are going out of their way to appease them instead. Even in the face of a forced collective genocide of their own. They will do anything. Agree to anything. Tolerate anything. Because they fear three words — racist, Islamophobe & anti-Semite. It is astounding to me that so many are so afraid of so little. That they remain resolutely & deliberately ignorant. And even when confronted with evidence — they chose denial. Wake up people. One is no better than the other. They just have different methods & employ different weapons. But, they both have the same agenda. And neither cares about you, nor your country. They want it for their own. Facts. Deal with them.
LeftisruiningCanada says
” It is no secret Israel has long had dreams of cleansing the Middle East & Africa of as many Muslims as possible”
If it’s no secret, then you will be easily able to provide some evidence for it.
“the similarities between Judaism & Islam are considerable. Right down to women in both cults wearing burqas”
“One is no better than the other”
I’m hoping for facts. I’d like to deal with them.
Do you have anything to support that statement, because, having spent considerable time in Israel, i never saw more than a wig?
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Lifruinicanada, fascist evil zionists have ambition of cleansing all muslims, but Will lead to their total destruction as prophesised in the Hadith.
LeftisruiningCanada says
As i said above, evidence. Anything else is only your opinion, which isn’t not very well respected around here.
Ray Jarman says
LeftisruiningCanada,
In an article published by Gate Stone Institute there is an excellent article that I think you will enjoy as it talks about the onslaught on Israel by the UN as well as the Arabs (Islam’s “Human Rights” by
by Janet Tavakoli, November 5, 2016 at 5:00 am at https://www.gatestoneinstitute.org/9241/islam-human-rights). I cannot believe the nonsense from this Kouldb about people dressing in the same manner, especially the women. Since no one killed a Jewish woman in the old Biblical days for not wearing as head covering and difference between the cult and Judaism’s respect for women can be seen through Ruth, Rachel and other ladies in the Old Testament.
LeftisruiningCanada says
Thanks for the link Ray.
And yes, kouk’s claims are bizarre.
Ray Jarman says
Kouldb, You wrote, ” if either religion had been invented in the west or Europe, and especially considering the atrocities that have been committed in their names, particular Islam — they would have been declared dangerous cults.” When you say in their names, you are totally wrong. The pernicious cult was founded upon a pedophilic mass murderer while Christianity was founded by a Man who never harmed a fly much less than a person. So when you say atrocities committed in their name, that may be said about Christianity but the cult’s actions of horror is not in Muhammad’s name, it is dictated by him. There is one hell of a difference between the two.
In the era of the Old Testament most women wore a head covering because of the elements while the cult has imposed it upon the ladies because of the men’s inability to restrain themselves and then a woman of the cult must have a male companion of her family escort her when in public because some cult member might harass or rape her. This has never been the case in Judaism.
One last point is that Israelis were attacked in their homes by their former Arab allies as soon as the last British soldier boarded his ship in 1948 but they did not permit themselves to be driven in the sea and the State of Israel was established and recognized by the world. In 1967 the Arabs on all sides attempted to drive the Jews into the see but ended up getting their behinds beaten. They could have taken a lot more land and forced the inhabitants to flee as happened to the Germans after WWI and WWII where Deutschland lost Jutland, Eupen, Alsace-Lorraine and parts of Prussia which was never returned and the Germans were thrown out. Why should Israel be treated differently by the world? why should it return one inch to the losers? Rather than retaining the captured land, much was returned and they even permitted Arabs to remain in much of the conquered territory.
Erdogan can cry and threaten all he wishes but he will not act because he knows very well that he would be destroyed in a war with Israel, and who knows, maybe the capital would be moved from Antioch to Constantinople, aka Istanbul by its former owners, the Greeks.
gravenimage says
The repulsive and dishonest kouldb wrote:
This will be the first & last time I will remotely agree with Erdoğan & anyone remotely connected to him:
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Does *anyone* here believe this?
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It is no secret Israel has long had dreams of cleansing the Middle East & Africa of as many Muslims as possible. Then occupying & claiming the lands for the Jews via more “settlements” — just as they’ve done with Palestine & the Golan Heights in Syria.
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What *absolute crap*.
Isreal is not cleansing the Middle East of Muslims–Muslim populations continue to grow, *including in Israel itself*.
And Israel has never claimed any land in Africa–what rot.
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And, it’s thanks in great part to those dreams that the west & Europe are now flooded with Muslim refugees & immigrants. They don’t even try to hide it from us.
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Even if Israel were what this dishonest liar said it was, this would make no sense. Many of the Muslim migrants flooding into Europe are not from Israel–in fact, I have not heard of *any* Israeli Muslims migrating to Europe.
Most of them are not from anywhere nearby, either–not from the “Palestinian territories or even from Syra, Lebanon, or Jordan.
Many Muslim migrants into Europe are from places like Afghanistan, Pakistan, north Africa, and sub-Saharan Africa. These are all places where they are few to no Jews.
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Meanwhile, forget not that the similarities between Judaism & Islam are considerable. Right down to women in both cults wearing burqas.
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This is at least the second time that kouldb has claimed that Jewish women wear Burqas–but it is an utter lie.
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Speaking of which — if either religion had been invented in the west or Europe, and especially considering the atrocities that have been committed in their names, particular Islam — they would have been declared dangerous cults. Then made illegal. But, because the majority of Jews & Muslims are of a different shade — western & European nations are going out of their way to appease them instead.
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What rot. Firstly, many Sephardic Jews are just as dark as are Muslim Arabs. Then, the idea that Europe is not itself all too antisemitic is ridiculous.
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Even in the face of a forced collective genocide of their own. They will do anything. Agree to anything. Tolerate anything. Because they fear three words — racist, Islamophobe & anti-Semite.
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What a load of crap. Jews are not committing genocide. Links, please.It is astounding to me that so many are so afraid of so little. That they remain resolutely & deliberately ignorant. And even when confronted with evidence — they chose denial. Wake up people. One is no better than the other. They just have different methods & employ different weapons. But, they both have the same agenda. And neither cares about you, nor your country. They want it for their own. Facts. Deal with them.
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LeftisruiningCanada says
gravenimage says
My apologies–my comments above posted before I had finished replying. The rest of the post should read:
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It is astounding to me that so many are so afraid of so little. That they remain resolutely & deliberately ignorant. And even when confronted with evidence — they chose denial. Wake up people. One is no better than the other. They just have different methods & employ different weapons. But, they both have the same agenda. And neither cares about you, nor your country. They want it for their own. Facts. Deal with them.
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What evidence and facts has kouldb presented as to Israel or any Jews committing genocide? None whatsover.