This piece from the UK’s Independent demonstrates that the British government is going all in with its contention that “far-right extremists” are an equivalent threat to that of Islamic jihadis. However, the most prominent people that they smear as “far-right extremists,” including Tommy Robinson, the recently banned Martin Sellner, Brittany Pettibone and Lauren Southern, as well as Pamela Geller and me, have never called for or condoned any vigilantism or violence; our only crime is opposing jihad terror and Sharia oppression.
Theresa May in late 2016 likened Pamela Geller and me to Abu Hamza and Abu Qatada, and in doing so showed the bankruptcy of this equivalence. Abu Hamza repeatedly preached violence against infidels and is currently in prison for aiding an attempt to set up an al-Qaeda training camp in Oregon. Abu Qatada likewise was involved in the planning of jihad terror plots. To liken us, when we have never been involved in or approved of any violence or illegal activity, was obscenely libelous.
Neil Basu claims that there were “10 foiled Islamist plots and four planned attacks by the extreme right,” involving “similar methods.” He doesn’t seem to have given any details, and without them, it’s extremely hard to believe that there were really four attempted terror attacks by the “extreme right.” Besides having no terror leaders, the “extreme right” is not part of a global movement that has declared war on Britain and other countries. It has not boasted about how it will soon conquer and subjugate Britain. It has no ideology or political system that it is determined to put into place. Primarily, the British government has demonized as “extreme right” those who don’t want to see their country destroyed by further jihad massacres and ongoing Islamization.
And so now Neil Basu wants people to report suspicious activity. Great. But now the British government is imprisoning and prosecuting people for “Islamophobia.” So if someone sees a jihad massacre being plotted, the witness must be very careful in alerting British authorities, for the suspicion itself could be seen as “Islamophobic,” especially if the witness is a non-Muslim. In today’s Britain, foes of jihad terror who see something better say nothing, if they want to keep from getting arrested themselves.
“Police ask public to become ‘counter-terrorism citizens’ to help stop attacks,” by Lizzie Dearden, Independent, March 20, 2018:
The new head of UK counter-terror policing has called on members of the public to become “counter-terrorism citizens” by passing on information that could help thwart attacks.
Speaking almost a year after the Westminster attack, Metropolitan Police Assistant Commissioner Neil Basu said more than a fifth of the 31,000 reports received last year resulted in useful intelligence.
“People are nervous about police overreacting or about wasting our time, but it’s never a waste of our time,” he told The Independent.
“They think the security machine and counter-terrorism policing is where it all happens but the statistics prove that in this country, public support is vital and it is working.”
People are being asked to look out for suspicious behaviour, including possessing weapons, chemicals, fertilisers or gas cylinders for no obvious reason, carrying out surveillance, having unusual items delivered, expressing extremist ideas or searching for terrorist material online.
Critics argued that the call for public help was “paving the way to the worst kinds of profiling, vigilantism and paranoia” amid ongoing controversy around the Government’s counter-extremism Prevent programme.
But Mr Basu said all reports were assessed by specialist officers who decide what is valuable and are “not going to overreact to a single piece of intelligence”.
“The point is you don’t have to make that judgement, you just have to feel nervous, and if you feel nervous, you shouldn’t sit on it – you should report it,” he added.
“Some people say ‘isn’t that a bit obvious’ or ‘it’s normal behaviour’ and that’s absolutely true but you’ve got to take that with people’s judgement.
“I think people have good instincts about what feels odd in their workplace, in their community and even in their family.”
Of almost 31,000 public reports to British counter-terror police in 2017, more than 6,600 (21 per cent) resulted in information used in live investigations or intelligence building.
Research suggests that while more than 80 per cent of people are motivated to report suspicious activity or behaviour, many are unclear exactly what they should be looking for.
Mr Basu said the five terror attacks that struck the UK last year, as well as 10 foiled Islamist plots and four planned attacks by the extreme right, involved similar methods.
“Lone actors on the extreme right are copycatting some of methodology that has been used by Islamist jihadists around the world,” he said, citing the attack using a van to ram people near a Finsbury Park mosque as one example.
“We’re asking the public to give us a small piece of information and we will join it together.”
Asked about incidents where police had received information but failed to prevent attacks, following warnings over the Manchester, London Bridge and Parsons Green attackers, he said forces were taking responsibility for improvements.
“Over the course of the last five years 23 plots have been disrupted, all of which saved lives,” Mr Basu added. “We are good at this but we can always be better.”
The call to action came after 36 victims were killed in the Westminster, Manchester, London Bridge and Finsbury Park terror attacks over four months of bloodshed in the UK.
A review by David Anderson QC, the former Independent Reviewer of Terrorism Legislation, found that security service missed opportunities to intercept the bombing at Manchester Arena and London Bridge attack and had the culprits on their radar.
Police and MI5 vowed to learn lessons from the atrocities, ahead of a revamped counter-terrorism strategy being announced by the Government this year.
Officials have warned of the pace of attack plots increasing, as the speed of radicalisation continues to fall partly thanks to the spread of online propaganda from Isis and other groups.
Some of the material has contained detailed advice on how to launch massacres quickly with readily available tools, with little prior planning, and evade detection by authorities.
The threat from both Islamists and the extreme right has been increasing as analysts document both groups feeding off each other in a process known as “reciprocal radicalisation”.
Arrests for terror offences are currently at a record level, with 412 made in 2017 and the number of white suspects rocketing by 61 per cent….
MFritz says
Because UK police considers resisting islamic terrorism “islamophobia”?
Mark says
England is lost. Migration as Jihad has been a complete success. The once great nation has sunk into complete dhimmitude.
mortimer says
THE LEFT HAND (the Home Office) does not know what the RIGHT HAND (The Met) is doing!
Police Assistant Commissioner Neil Basu wants citizens (like the readers of Jihad Watch already have) to LEARN ABOUT JIHAD TERRORISM and observe it.
However, as we have seen, in UK, if you SPEAK OUT or CRITICIZE JIHAD TERRORISM you can go to jail like JAYD FRANSEN and PAUL GOULDING JUST HAVE!!!
Even though the Public Order Act clearly PERMITS CRITICIZING a RELIGION and MOCKING ITS PRACTICES, the UK police use ANOTHER LAW to put you in jail because IN THE PERCEPTION OF THE POLICE… you MIGHT BE or you MIGHT INTEND TO or you might be ON THE VERGE of creating a public riot. So much for the freedom of expression when the POLICE may ARREST YOU EVEN BEFORE you have spoken.
THE UK POLICE ARE NOW ORDERED TO BE MIND-READERS. They must ASSUME what some is going to say as if it has actually been said.
In the old days we called this ‘FRAMING’ someone. Jayda Fransen and Paul Goulding have been ‘FRAMED’.
Police Assistant Commissioner Neil Basu is a RUM JOKER who is unable to PROTECT PEOPLE WHO SPEAK OUT AGAINST JIHAD TERRORISM. They will be called every name.
Jayell says
Interesting. So it is now possible to be imprisoned for the actual commission of a crime if someone in authority believes, for reasons of their own, that you might be intending to provoke others into causing a public disturbance, again for reasons of their own, despite the fact that you yourself, neither anyone else, have actually done absolutely nothing apart from hold an opinion. Equally interesting is the official position on ‘offensive behaviour’ (usually used for taking official action against an individual on grounds of ‘racism’ or religious reasons) where one is deemed to have committed this crime because someone else, for reasons of their own, claims to have perceived one’s words as ‘offensive’. There is also an interesting parallel here in the area of sexual crimes, where ‘rape’ or ‘sexual harassment’ is deemed to have occurred purely on the uncorroborated ‘evidence’ of a self-proclaimed ‘victim’ (invariably a woman).
So we now have a huge area of ‘pseudo-crime’ where it is possible to be incarcerated or otherwise sanctioned despite the fact that one has not actually committed any statutory crime at all, but purely on the grounds that someone in authority chooses to believe a third party’s possibly spurious complaint or that a third party might be incited to commit a crime as a result of an opinion that one holds but might or might not express. It is interesting to note the identities of the ‘aggrieved third parties’ whom the authorities choose to believe to be the ‘pseudo-victims’ of all this ‘pseudo crime’, and the grounds on which these ‘pseudo offences’ are deemed to have occurred, and one cannot but help noticing that they are rarely (a) ‘white’, (b) male, (c) so-called ‘left-leaning and (d) adherents of any religion apart from Islam. It is also interesting to note the identities of proven victims of crime whom the authorities choose to ignore or whose complaints or allegations they might concoct some reason to dismiss, and that these are far more often likely to be (a) ‘white’, (b) male, (c) so-called ‘right wing’ and (d) adherents of any religion apart from Islam.
One cannot avoid concluding that there are persons in authority responsible for making decisions who are undemocratically following a highly-partisan agenda that not only does not conform with the interests of the majority within the UK but also, through a deliberate misapplication of the Rule of Law, actively works to destroy them.
Here in Hong Kong, it was interesting to watch a televised address given by the current Chinese President to what I presume was a national Party Convention. Like a Victorian schoolmaster, the President lectured his vast, immaturely-dressed audience, who sat quietly and obediently taking notes and applauding on cue – and also clearly aware that State Television cameras were trained on them as well as the President. And no doubt they were also aware that this was the selfsame President who has flouted the will of their party by abolishing laws intended to limit his term of presidency, and presiding over the disappearance and ‘sanctioning’ of those who openly criticise the official line. A bit like the United Kingdom?
Jayell says
Spellcheck alert! The audience was ‘immaculately’ dressed, not ‘immaturely’ dressed!! I’d better put that right before I get an ominous knock on the hotel door.
mortimer says
Yes, Jayell, the UK cops are now MINDREADERS who imagine what you are thinking and then arrest you based on that GUESSWORK.
They arrest you for what they SUPPOSE you are ABOUT TO SAY, but DID NOT SAY.
Two laws are in conflict and if they want to, UK’s Home Office can arrest you falsely using the Public Order Act.
In effect, you may be arrested for expressing DISAGREEMENT WITH GOVERNMENT POLICY REGARDING IMMIGRATION.
gravenimage says
Yes–Britain is now prosecuting and imprisoning people for non-crimes. Just appalling.
RichardL says
excellent contribution, but of course totally lost on the totalitarian ideologues in government. Ignorance IS bliss!
mortimer says
Richard, ordinary Brits DON’T HAVE A CLUE THAT THEY HAVE LOST THE FREEDOM OF EXPRESSION.
martin says
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paul_Golding
J D S says
Of course cops want us to speak up…I’d say that at least 80% of the “stop”and “catch” that the police are credited for come from “tips”
called in on a tip line or from a “snitch”, or some other “source”, are how criminals are apprehended. But when ones hand is slapped for doing so then it stops and guess what…crime goes up and in this case more terrorism…May be what the sUM wants. Hmmm, think so?
J D S says
ERROR##### should read…maybe what the UK wants….
Phil Copson says
“reciprocal radicalisation” eh ? would that be what a normal person might understand as ordinary members of the public being driven to desperation by the failure of the govt to protect us, and turning to violence themselves ?
The latest madness in the UK following the imprisonment of Paul Golding and Jayda Fransen of “Britain First” – (for attempting to alert the public in Ramsgate to the fact that four dangerous muslim rapists were being allowed to carry on running their take-away where the gang-rape took place) – the arrest, imprisonment and deportation of Austrian Identarian leader Martin Sellner and his partner, American journalist Brittany Pettibone, followed by the bans on Canadian journalist Lauren Southern and German Pegida leader Lutz Bachmann, is – wait for it, wait for it – that a chap who taught his girlfriend’s dog to do a Hitler salute, is now awaiting being sentenced to prison!
Presumably, any day now the fool Prince Harry will be charged with “hate crime” for attending a fancy-dress party in Nazi uniform, together with the cast of thousands of films about WW2 ?
Perhaps I’ll be charged with “hate-crime” for calling Prince Harry a fool ? There really is no end to this once you get started on this “hate” business – in fact, I hate to think where it might end…
Indiana Tom says
German Pegida leader Lutz Bachmann, is – wait for it, wait for it – that a chap who taught his girlfriend’s dog to do a Hitler salute, is now awaiting being sentenced to prison!
So if my collie gives you the paw, it is a Nazi salute?
RichardL says
all our cats, when cleaning their hind legs, lift the foot above their head. When they do that the first time, we nod knowingly: another member of the secret feline society of Nazis giving a back-paw-Heil. We are a tolerant bunch and leave the conspirators to it. In the UK we probably would be imprisoned for that.
On a side note: the chap who trained his girlfriend’s dog to do the Heil on command does look even less like a neo-Nazi than the dog. But that’s just my untrained eye finding clues of Nazism in dogs.
mummymovie says
WATCH OUT FOR THIS TRAP:
This very cleverly accomplishes two objectives:
1) It is “red meat” in a sense; government posturing for those ordinary citizens concerned about jihad terror attacks, and it placates those who are beginning to raise an eyebrow with all of the recent prosecution and detentions of those who question or criticize islam and government poicies with regard to it. A bone thrown to those critical of islamization.
2) It also lures in those who could possibly be deemed “islamophobic” right into their hands for arrest and prosecution.
READ AGAIN:
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And so now Neil Basu wants people to report suspicious activity. Great. But now the British government is imprisoning and prosecuting people for “Islamophobia.” So if someone sees a jihad massacre being plotted, the witness must be very careful in alerting British authorities, for the suspicion itself could be seen as “Islamophobic,” especially if the witness is a non-Muslim. In today’s Britain, foes of jihad terror who see something better say nothing, if they want to keep from getting arrested themselves.
mummymovie says
And now with the new data-collecting, investigative government “Fusion Centers”, so much for “see something-say something” in the U.S. as well.
Indiana Tom says
I was thinking the same thing.
don vito says
#metoo
Westman says
“..pace of attack plots increasing, as the speed of radicalisation continues to fall..” ??
“fall” = “rise”, or, “speed of” = “time to” ?
It seems the only safe way to report suspicious activity is via a pay phone. Are call boxes disappearing in the UK, like pay phones in the US, now that most adults have personal cell phones?
Sam says
The only thing i can say is “BRITISH DESERVE ISLAM”
Hoi Polloi says
Name one country where the “extreme right” is flooding its borders.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Free speech in Canada:
Faith Goldy’s talk at Wilfrid Laurier University and Lindsay Shepherd’s involvement:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhqnJ1BSCzs
Guy Forester says
Another method of identifying and neutralizing anyone that disagrees with the elitists. The fear of reprisals and being branded a racist is what kept neighbors from contacting police regarding the San Bernardino jihadists. Phil Haney basically got cashiered for daring to track and expose terrorists from the group we dare not name.
Georg says
Exactly. This isn’t much more than the government saving face while encouraging the reportage of speech/actionn critical of Islam. I hope the best for Britain but it is increasingly resembling a dystopia in ways, much of it having to do with the Manchurian Candidate heading its capital with fifth columnists and quislings in lock-step; acknowledging this much might be criminal in Britain, so I’ll say it from here.
Guy Forester says
We all know now that both the NSA and MI6 can track and monitor all phone calls and even our e-mails. You and I are most likely on someone’s S list already.
Georg says
Agreed. I assume anything I do online is tracked/logged by the government AND will one day be public knowledge (searchable by identifiers unique to me, etc). I just meant to say that, at the moment, I can speak the truth about Britain from a distance which keeps me from prosecution.
D-spot says
The public wasn’t asked when they started importing muslims, the public wasn’t asked when the rape gangs set up shop – the public wasn’t asked about allowing jihadis who had joined and fought with ISIS back into the country. Now they want to ask the public, how could you trust them.
don vito says
Troublingly true, nice phrasing.
Georg says
What also must be acknowledged is that the reason they weren’t asked is because the public wouldn’t have wanted it.
Guy Forester says
The star observation of the day!
Indiana Tom says
This program is actually about poor oppressed Muslims reporting big bad white Christian people. Silly Brits.
Bill says
What attacks in the UK have been carried out by the “extreme right”?
Georg says
A British guy ran over someone outside Abu Hamza’s mosque.
LeftisruiningCanada says
And a Polish guy scared a muslim by driving at outside a take away somewhere in England.
Bill says
It seems to me that the radicalization is not exactly reciprocal, but then again, I am not a nuanced British police executive.
LeftisruiningCanada says
It is not.
Guy Forester says
Did that include the riled up lady protesting outside the pizza shop where the girl was raped? The perps were still working there.
don vito says
Do these rightwing attacks have anything to do with bacon on a mosk door knob? Or, if I were to report anon that Hillary clinton was working with T. May and the Russians to attack our nation would the police investigate?
gravenimage says
UK cops ask public to become ‘counter-terrorism citizens’ to help stop attacks (but they’ll arrest you if you do)
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Yeah–that pretty much sums it up…
Lydia Church says
This sounds good on the surface, but they must have something up their sleeve. I mean, first they come after you for reporting terrorism, and then they want you to report terrorism. First, they do nothing about all the cases that are reported and that they know about, and now they want us to report more of them. Hmmm…….
And again, the devil is in the details. Look closely at some of these terms, I will highlight them below:
“…having *unusual* items delivered, expressing ***extremist ideas*** or searching for terrorist material online.” (extremist ideas… like ‘right wing’ extremist ideas?) (and unusual items may be explosive related, or not)
“Critics argued that the call for public help was “paving the way to the worst kinds of profiling, vigilantism and paranoia” amid ongoing controversy around the Government’s ***counter-extremism*** Prevent programme.” (note the switcheroo: not counter TERRORISM, but counter EXTREMISM! So no extremists allowed, all must conform to our middle of the road ideology!) (That’s where it’s ultimately leading. And this is very reminiscent of the nazi time of snitching on others. I can just hear it now: “Pssst! Det vone ofver dayah…. I sink he eeeis a rrrrright wingkkk ekkksssstrrreeeeemeeesstt! I hefff seen heeem loookink at rrright wingk articles online, end efffen carryingk a Bible!!!”)
“Mr Basu said the five terror attacks that struck the UK last year, as well as 10 foiled Islamist plots and four planned attacks by the ***extreme right***, involved similar methods.” (Four planned attacks? Who knows how many attacks were ‘planned’ if they are not carried out, I’m not saying this does not happen. But they can fabricate this very easily. And cover up or pass the blame as well. Don’t forget, like they admitted, they want to ‘change’ the narrative!) (And they danced in the term extreme RIGHT this time, the eventual target. There has been a slander campaign against the term ‘extremist’ for years now, and then at the end all they have to do is slip in ‘right wing’ and it is complete. All the negative baggage is attached. Even though there is nothing initially, inherently, or intrinsically wrong with being an ‘extremist’! It really is a neutral. What matters is: extremely what? Good, bad, or average??? It just means very much of…. something. If I am extremely peaceful, is that bad? But the label has already been poisoned. Just saying ‘he is an extremist’ says it all now.)
Betttty betttty eeenterrrestingkkk!
Lydia Church says
Yes, and also think ‘pre-crime.’ That plays into this also.
DogOnPorch says
The UK called Lauren Southern a terrorist. Unbelievable.
Guy Forester says
Speaking the truth and delivering facts directly undermine the elitists that rule over us. She is lucky she did not get “swatted”.
Lydia Church says
Regarding coming for conservative websites, I found this on Rather Expose Them blog:
VATICAN SENDS PRO ABORTION, RABIDLY
PRO LGBT LAW FIRM,
TO SHUT DOWN PRO LIFE
ROMAN CATHOLIC WEBSITE
SEE: https://infovaticana.com/
SEE: http://pulpitandpen.org/2018/03/12/vatican-sends-pro-abortion-law-firm-shut-pro-life-roman-catholic-website/
Just FYI.
gravenimage says
No, we are not lynching people. Just vote them out.
gravenimage says
My above post was in reply to a now removed comment.
Linda says
This story reminds me of being on the Toronto Transit system. When you’re on the subway especially, you’re constantly bombarded with announcements that you are to report any suspicious activity to a transit official or police. However, if you did just that, you would likely be accused of “Islamophobia”, so, you just can’t win. It’s strange that they now ask the general public to do the policing for them in these instances, too.
Matthieu Baudin says
Can only spot one face in the photo. Thought two faces were the norm approaching that rank?
UNCLE VLADDI says
The so-called “right wing” doesn’t exist – it’s just a false gang accusation made up about individualists by leftopathic gangster extortionists to justify their own perpetual extortions and slavery attempts as “defensive!”
Socialism is slavery.
Fascism is slavery.
Islam is slavery.
Conservatives are proud individualists.
“Right wingers” are only normal people who don’t like being extorted by “socialist” gangsters.
Gangster victimologists (leftopaths) always feel endangered by proud individualists.
Honestly, people – “right wingers” don’t actually exist. Hitler was a National SOCIALIST.
And even “Fascism” was invented by Benito Mussolini, the devoted Italian SOCIALIST.
So, what’s a “right winger?” It’s any normal person who wakes up enough to take a bit of time off from minding their own businesses to temporarily band together to vote to not be extorted any more by group-might-makes-rights-worshiping “socialist” gangster criminals.
The “right wing” tautology came about when Germany invaded the Soviet Union in 1941. Prior to that the two countries were allies and Stalin openly praised Hitler. Following the invasion, Stalin labeled Hitler “a right wing revisionist” and read him out of the Molotov/Ribbentrop treaty and the left wing communist/fascist group. Since Stalin was our “ally” during WWII the label stuck insofar as Fascism is concerned, and was promulgated by our then [as now] thoroughly Bolshevik “academia/intelligencia.”
Richard Courtemanche says
UK is ripe for a revolution with the cops switching sides.
Brother Charles says
Has anyone seen a FAR RIGHT CHRISTIAN hit anyone over the head with a cross ??? , maybe a pamplet reporting to jesvs is saviour ,what about a crucifix on the end of a chain , NO, WELL NEITHER HAVE I , SO WHO ARE THESE TERRORIST .