The latest explosive charge involving Tariq Ramadan comes from “Marie,” the third woman to accuse the “world’s foremost Muslim scholar” and “towering intellect” of rape.
She has said she was beaten at her home shortly after filing her complaint against Ramadan. Two men forced their way into the lobby of her building on March 25. “Tariq Ramadan’s alleged victim ‘beaten at home,’” by Noor Nanji, The National, April 6, 2018:
Marie was beaten up and her mobile phone was stolen during the assault, according to Henda Ayari, who was the first woman to accuse Mr Ramadan of rape. Ayari is close to Marie and reported her story to the French magazine Marianne this week.
The attack is said to have happened three weeks after Marie made a formal complaint claiming to have suffered multiple rapes in France, Brussels and London between 2013 and 2014 at the hands of the scholar….
Marie filed a complaint about the alleged assault at her home on the evening of March 25. According to a copy of the complaint seen by French media, Marie claims to have been grabbed at her throat, sprayed with water and verbally abused. “Next time it will be gasoline,” the men are reported as saying, before running away.
Though we knew that Henda Ayari had received more than 3,000 death threats, and for several months has had to have round-the-clock protection, we did not until now know, from her report in Marianne, that others of his accusers, such as “Marie,” had received threats and been subject to attacks. Such menacing behavior by Ramadan’s loyal followers is meant not only to scare his accusers, but are also designed to keep other women from coming forward at all. We may never know how many women were actually attacked by Ramadan, given the fear of what some among both his two million Facebook friends, and the nearly 140,000 people who have signed a letter demanding his immediate release, might do to his accusers. Is it worth it? Many will conclude that it is not, and keep their own encounters with Ramadan to themselves.
Mr Ramadan’s other alleged victims have also claimed they were threatened or attacked by people loyal to the scholar after their accusations against him went public.
While Henda Ayari has herself been protected, her car has twice been damaged, in a clear warning to her.
“I’m followed… it’s obvious that they know my address,” Ms Ayari, 41, told Marianne.
“Last month, they deflated the tires of my car, and two days ago, my windshield was broken,” she added.
Presumably “Marie” will now have to be given the same round-the-clock protection as Henda Ayari. Her attackers showed they mean business. And they will be back, they have made perfectly clear, if “Marie” does not…does not what? Obviously, if she does not modify or drop her accusations against Ramadan altogether.
Ramadan has tried everything. He has declared, in the sincerest voice he could muster, his “complete innocence.” He has called into question the veracity of all of his accusers, and done his level best, through his lawyers, to blacken the names of Ayari, “Christelle,” and “Marie.” He has testified falsely as to his whereabouts on October 10, 2009.
But until now we had no reports of physical attacks on his accusers themselves, with clear death threats being made — for what else can the warning, after dowsing “Marie” with water, that “next time it will be gasoline” be, but a death threat?
Even for Ramadan and his enforcers, it’s a big step. “No more water, the fire next time.”
And they mean it.
DHazard says
I have no idea how Tariq Ramadan achieved his hero status among Muslims. But the fact that these witnesses against him need round the clock protection says a lot about Muslims, when compared to non-Muslims. I don’t remember any of the Catholic priests who were later found guilty of abuse needing protection. So I guess we can add “important Muslim” to the list of people that can NEVER be accused of doing anything haram, or that might paint Islam in a bad light. It’s seems to extend their blasphemy laws beyond those already in place for Allah, Muhammad, and Turkey’s president.
There are way too many Muslims who see murder as a run-of-the-mill answer every time they, or their heroes, might be defamed. And they have an endless supply of dirty laundry that they MUST keep in the closet. It seems to me that they instinctively know their religion is indefensible and then instinctively react with violence.
mortimer says
TARIQ RAMADAN taught Islam by thought, word and EVIL DEED… his MISOGYNY comes from Mohammed …
The hadiths of Mohammed that insult and degrade all women:
– I think that women were created for nothing but evil.
– Women have ten ‘awrat (vulvas). When she gets married, the husband covers one, and when she dies the grave covers the ten (of her shameful parts).
– A straw mat in the corner of the house is preferable to a barren woman.
– Women are toys, so choose (your ‘toys’).
– The woman is a toy, whoever takes her, let him care for her [ or do not lose her ].
– Had it not been for women, God would have truly, truly been worshipped.
– Men perished the day they obeyed the women.
– Obedience to a woman’s advice causes regret.
– Consult women and act contrary (to it).
– Sneezing, drowsing, yawning in prayer, also menstruation, vomiting and nose-bleeding are from Satan.
– When…your affairs are in the hands of your women, the interior of the earth (hell) will be the better for you than its surface.
– If a woman offered one of her breasts to be cooked and the other to be roasted, she still will fall short of fulfilling her obligations to her husband. And besides that if she disobeys her husband even for a twinkling of an eye, she would be thrown in the lowest part of Hell, except she repents and turns back.
– Mohammed asked some women, “Isn’t the witness of a woman equal to half that of a man?” The women said, “Yes,” He said, “This is because of the deficiency of the woman’s mind.”
– I have not seen any one more deficient in intelligence and religion than you (women).
– I was shown the Hell-fire and that the majority of its dwellers are women.
– Bad omen is in the woman, the house and the horse.
– After me I have not left any affliction more harmful to men than women.
– Don’t wear false hair for Allah sends His curse upon such ladies who lengthen their hair artificially.
– Treat women well for they are like domestic animals and they possess nothing themselves. Allah has made the enjoyment of their bodies lawful in his Qur’an.
– Women, slaves and camels are same.
– Prayer is annulled by a dog, a donkey and a woman.
– If you relax the woman’s bridle a tiny bit, she will take you and bolt wildly. And if you lower her cheek-piece a hand span, she will pull you an arm’s length … Their deception is awesome and their wickedness is contagious; bad character and feeble mind are their predominant traits.
– “[A man’s wife] fears him, while he fears her not, a kind word from him satisfies her, where nothing of hers has importance in his eyes, it is she who must tolerate the presence of concubines, and it is she who worries when he is ill whereas even her death would leave him indifferent.
– If a man calls his wife to his bed and she refuses, and he spends the night angry with her, the angels curse her until morning.
– Treat women well, for they are [like] domestic animals [awan] with you and do not possess anything for themselves. You have taken them only as a trust from God and you have made the enjoyment of their persons lawful by the word of God, so understand and listen to my words…
– Muhammad’s last words on women during his farewell speech:
– God allows you to put them in separate rooms and to beat them but not with severity. If they refrain from these things they have the right to their food and clothing with kindness. Lay injunctions on women kindly, for they are prisoners with you having no control- of their persons. Sirat Rasul Allah.
mortimer says
Resonse to Dhazard … “… they instinctively know their religion is indefensible …”
Disagree. That is not my personal experience. Most Muslims have never been CHALLENGED TO THINK, so they assume that everything is alright.
We must gently challenge them with your THOUGHT… namely that Islam cannot be defended 1) historically, 2) morally or 3) logically. Why is that so, 1) Islam has no historical provenance 2) Islam is opportunistic and amoral 3) Islam is self-referentially incoherent. There is no argument with which to defend Islam.
gravenimage says
This is why so many Muslims respond to criticism or even questioning of Islam with violence.
Mamo says
How many Catholic priests have violently harassed and molested kids under 15 years of age,have never sued and arrested for what they have done and started to sue allegedly foreigners or Muslims for harrasment.that is unfair…If you live in glass house,you never throw stone.
gravenimage says
DHazard wrote:
I have no idea how Tariq Ramadan achieved his hero status among Muslims.
……………,.,…..
Until recently, Tariq Ramadan had been supremely good at snowing Infidels about Islam. That explains it.
mortimer says
How did Tariq Ramadan achieved his hero status? The RED-GREEN AXIS of EVIL provided a number of FAKE, PAID-FOR, UNMERITED PROMOTIONS… His PhD professor resisted the the granting of it. Ramadan was furious. His guiding professor had the impression that Ramadan thought he should be able to buy a PhD. Ramadan was given special ‘instruction’ from teachers at Al Azhar University and then granted an Islamic teaching diploma.
His credentials are suspect and seem to have been based on a crafty programme of disseminating propaganda to gullible Westerners who know almost nothing about Islam.
balam says
DECEPTION-THY NAME IS ISLAM AND YOUR FOLLOWERS ARE MUSLIMS.
epistemology says
The big problem is Tariq Ramadan has a great status among Western European apologists, he’s their darling. On the continent he’s mainly active in Switzerland and France. He indoctrinates the French speaking muzzies but he tells the apologists what a nice and moderate guy he is. He’s a professor in Oxford for Islamic studies and it’s the same all the people who like to be cheated love him.
We’re surrounded by so many morons.
mortimer says
They are NOT morons, Mr. epistemology, they are LAZY AS HELL. They refuse to read the primary texts of Islam containing over 1,000,000 words.
b.a. freeman says
second what mortimer says – they are *not* morons – although with a caution. these people were taught how to think in the leftist indoctrination centers that used to be public schools; thinking for the properly trained stinking masses is to listen to leftist propaganda to see what to think and do. virtually everyone alive in western countries went through the indoctrination centers, so we can no more blame them for their lack of critical thinking abilities, which they were never taught, than we can blame muslims for being muslims, since they are simmered in a stew of hatred and lies from early childhood.
the solution is to treat each new acquaintance as a probable unthinking leftist. keep in mind that he is that way because he was never exposed to critical thinking. appeal to his better nature (the “on-the-face-of-it” goodness of multi-culti bulls**t), and challenge him to learn islam so that they can use the *truth* to defend all the poor defenseless muslims out there, helpless brown children that they are (do i detect *racism* – draws shocked breath!) from knuckle-dragging right-winger “white nationalists” (the current go-to smear). most people have enough common decency to be willing to defend the defenseless, so a *few* (emphasis on few, because people in general usually can’t be bothered to check their basic beliefs) might actually check, and those folks will be the best ones to reach in any case. once they understand how depraved this criminal cult is, they are likely to be enraged at the obvious duplicity of the liars in power. they may even look at leftish causes with a jaundiced eye, given that leftist thought leaders have consistently lied to them. i read of a pious muslim whose father was a MINO in egypt, and who became a terrorist once he became pious, but later renounced it all and became a christian after extensive conversations with a coptic christian priest; unfortunately, i can’t remember who it was. an example of a leftist who was reached is eric allen bell, an independent filmmaker who was making a documetary about islamophobia in murfreesboro, TN, in 2010 because the local knuckle-draggers opposed the building of a mega-mosque in their town. he researched islam to refute those who were protesting the mosque, and ended up trying to change the documentary to a film about the dangers of islam. his leftist hollywood propaganda backers were aghast when he made the proposal, and cut him off, not just financially, but attempted to ruin his career and reputation. IIRC, he has since worked with the glazov gang in highlighting the depravity of islam and the treason of the left. https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/122048/high-price-telling-truth-about-islam-eric-allen-bell
the bottom line is that we have to keep in mind that those on the side of depravity and tyranny, both leftists and muslims, have been bamboozled. *they don’t know the truth*. they are the victims of liars. if we simply confront them, all we will do is confirm their mistaken belief that we are all monsters; instead, use creative methods to trick them into checking both the hard left and islam. i hate having to trick anybody, but as both epistimology and mortimer have noted, leftists and muslims will *NEVER* examine their beliefs in detail otherwise.
Infidel says
This is exactly how the mafia families operate…
Yokel says
I am sure that the Mafia got their ideas from watching the conquerors at work in Muslim occupied Sicily.
mortimer says
The Mafia is deemed to have developed out of Islamic pirate gangs. The Sicilians copied the Arabs’ methods.
Possible etymologies from ARABIC are:
– mu’afa = safety, protection
– mahyas = aggressive boasting, bragging[5]
– marfud = rejected, considered to be the most plausible derivation; marfud developed into marpiuni (swindler) to marpiusu and finally mafiusu
gravenimage says
True, Yokel and Mortimer.
balam says
Every VILLAIN is a HERO in the eyes of Muslims.
Coonie says
Tariq Ramadan is the grandson of founder of the muslim brothers… we can already suspect the teaching he had from his childhood.
J D S says
This poor woman should not have been beaten for telling the truth…..Again I reiterate what is said of Muslims…..They are are mean spirited…..Now that said I suppose one would think that I am saying ALL Muslims fit into the mean spirited category…well they must, BECAUSE I don’t see the streets full of Muslims opposing all the bad things,,rape, murder, and many other things that rebut the norm for sane people and until such time as the man on the street Muslim and the elite as well, stand up and proclaim that what the few are doing is wrong and I: further say that just because it is in the Koran and hadath don’t make it right, then how can one not say that Muslims are not mean spirited.
I suppose the answer is…They don’t care that they belong to the most hated, so called religion, and are the most hated peoples on the face of the earth. I would do everything within my power to remove myself from that category of people….Oh I know they, for the most part, are held in Islam by FEAR but I’m sorry to say that is not the only reason.
Isabellathecrusader says
This reminds me of a Kevin Costner movie from the late 80’s.
Benedict says
Ramadan has followers all over the world:
Muslim, Lebanese rape gang in Australia : https://youtu.be/dySR0JwrKdI
Either their Muslim religion didn’t prevent them from committing these atrocities or their religion positively encouraged them to find infidels in order to victimize them. In both cases Islam is at fault.
mortimer says
Benedict, all the Islamic rapists everywhere imitate and follow the MODEL RAPIST, the allegedly ‘PERFECT MAN’ Mohammed… whose example instructs Muslims how to rape… not ‘if’. Allah DECREES in K.4.24 that they may RAPE MARRIED CAPTIVES.
The emotional subtexts of Islam is SADOMASOCHISM. We see a TEXTBOOK EXAMPLE of NORMATIVE Islamic sadomasochism in the CURIOUS CASE of Islamic propagandist TARIQ RAMADAN.
Feniks says
Exactly, this is what ISLAM teaches.
Violence, rape,murder.hatred
You find all of it in the koran.
Violence, rape and murder and hatred, it is all there is preached in this so called religion.
Wellington says
Tariq Ramadan and his “associates” are “merely” following in the footsteps of Mohammed, who himself said, “I have been made victorious with terror.” {Bukhari Hadith 4.52.220} Hey, imagine someone like Jesus, Lao-Tzu or Buddha saying this, but I digress.
Fitting. And no surprise whatsoever for those who know Islam, really know Islam, and who have kept their built-in crap detector in tact (this would exclude ALL Muslims and a hell of a lot of dhimmis who, under Islamic law to this present day, are the equivalent of human waste).
Islam is sick. And, for all adults (children should be exculpated), not knowing by now that Islam is sick is dispositive of another kind of sickness, the kind that allows evil to prosper and pose as something good.
mortimer says
Islam is a form of self-hypnosis. In this trance, they have an altered sense of reality. We must find a way to break their collective trance state.
gravenimage says
We just need to keep Muslims out of the West. It is not up to us to “deprogram” them.
Flavius Claudius Iulianus says
Make the border between the Dar al Harb and Dar al Islam a very real and hard one. Then the only way the uhma can wage war on the Dar al Harb is to attack that well defended border.
balam says
gravenmage: How can one influence the political leaders and the corrupt politicians in the West to disallow the Muslims in their countries? The WEST is digging its own grave and for its future generations .Muslim’s believe in DESTRUCTION and not in COSTRUCTION.
mortimer says
GI, only a government-managed system of ‘ABSOLUTE’ DEPROGRAMMING will end Islam as a political force. DEPROGRAMMING MUSLIMS IS DANGEROUS, so only WESTERN GOVERNMENTS have the resources and protection to carry out this work.
Only POORLY PAID self-taught amateurs are deprogramming Muslims at the moment and few PSYCHOLOGISTS are doing so. AN ARMY OF PSYCHIATRISTS COULD DEVELOP PROTOCOLS TO BREAK THE SPELL of Islamic SELF-HYPNOSIS and educate Muslims about the ABSURDITY of Islam and the IMPOSSIBILITY of a reasonable person to place credence in this death cult.
gravenimage says
balam, politicians are often as clueless as everyone else about the threat of Islam. We have to continue to expose the threat of Islam. Some few leaders–like Trump–have become at least somewhat aware fo the Jihad threat. Keep pushing!
Savvy Kafir says
That’s the only answer. Attempts to “deprogram ” Muslims are doomed to failure — and WE would pay the price for that failure.
They need to go. All of them. Then just hope that future generations are not stupid enough to let them back in.
MTMLA says
Now with the visit of the new Saudi Prince MBS the leaders and business people are all falling over him due to his fortune and the possibility of very lucrative contracts in the KSA.He’s going around lying through his teeth about Islam, pretending to be what he and islam are not , through taqiyya.
Wellington says
I lean towards gravenimage’s take on this, mortimer, to wit, first and foremost keep the suckers out of the West, finding any legal excuse to do so, then concern yourself with any possible “deprogramming,” respecting which I see only one truly efficacious course of action, i.e., leaving Islam completely.
epistemology says
Couldn’t agree more dear Wellington we have to keep them out and in certain parts of Western Europe you feel the threat every day. I read a book about the future of physics by Michio Kaku and he explains how you can colonize Mars, make the planet an inhabitable place. I want to deport all muzzies there Ka’aba inclusive.
The problem is that the stupid bitch Merkel wants to accommodate them all and has the cheek to tell other European countries they have to be as suicidal as she is.
All the best to you and yours take care my friend
mortimer says
WELLINGTON, There are obvious legal restraints regarding deprogramming. However, poorly paid, self-taught volunteers are doing the heavy lifting, not governments… that is my point. Government should get involved in PSYCHOLOGICAL COUNTER MEASURES to jihad.
DEPROGRAMMING IS PSYCHOLOGICAL COUNTER-PROPAGANDA based on verifiable, empirical facts. David Wood is doing ‘deprogramming’. Bill Warner is doing ‘deprogramming’. Hamid Abdel Samed is doing ‘deprogramming’.
Muslim governments are spending a BILLION DOLLARS (conservatively) to PROGRAM and DISINFORM Western people about Islam.
Western governments are doing almost NOTHING to deprogram Muslims. They have not realized that ISLAM CANNOT BE REFORMED.
THIS IS DEPROGRAMMING: (A Box of Islam by Hamid Abdel Samid)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q4Y98VT3VnY
Wellington says
Watched the video, mortimer, and it just confirmed for me again that the only sensible thing a Muslim can do is leave their faith entirely. Yes, different approaches can be taken to accomplish this (I prefer trying to convey to Muslims, with copious evidence of course, just how silly and deplorable their religion is), but in the end the only “winning solution” is to give up on Islam completely. If this is what you mean by “deprogramming,” I’m with you.
Wellington says
Merkel is such a disaster, epistemology. I can’t fathom how she has any support. She is ruining Germany, very possibly forever, and along with other exceedingly foolish European leaders, including the present Pope, much of Europe as well. We are living witnesses to the destruction of much of Western Civilization in our time. It is an extra mad age. Take good care, my friend, as best you can.
gravenimage says
Mortimer, David Wood and Bill Warner are mostly educating *infidels* about the Jihad threat, not Muslims. I suppose one can argue that Abdel Samed is largely speaking to Muslims, since his videos are in Arabic–I haven’t heard that there are hordes of Muslims leaving Islam as a result, though.
There *was* the case of Nabeel Qureshi, whom David Wood debated when he was still a Muslim. So we have one thoughtful Muslim–someone not inclined to violence in the first place–who left Islam due to the efforts of an Anti-Jihadist.
This is a wonderful story–but *hardly* a blueprint for “dehypnotizing” all Muslims, I’m afraid.
I actually do agree with you that Western governments should be exposing the evils of Islam–not that I see this happening anytime soon, sadly.
But again–I think this would work more to educate Infidels than to “deprogram” Muslims.
Savvy Kafir says
The laws need to be changed, so we can eject Muslims from the West.
Islam poses a unique threat. It must be treated differently. If we’re not smart enough to do that, the world will belong to Islam.
6woods says
“We must find a way to break their collective trance state.”
1. Who’s “we”?
2. You’re kidding, right?
gravenimage says
Accuser of Tariq Ramadan Beaten and Threatened: “Next Time It Will Be Gasoline”
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This is *just horrifying*.
More:
Mr Ramadan’s other alleged victims have also claimed they were threatened or attacked by people loyal to the scholar after their accusations against him went public.
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Think about *how insane* this is. How many other “scholars” have thugs ready to threaten, beat, and say they will murder their critics?
balam says
I can see MOHAMMAD in every MUSLIM!!
Yokel says
Isn’t Mohammed described as being the “perfect man” for “all humanity to emulate”? Why are we surprised when they do?
Savvy Kafir says
It’s nuts, all right. And if someone as slick and suave as Tariq Ramadan turns out to be such a savage, it makes you much less trusting regarding all those “nice”, friendly Muslims you may know.
Sarah says
Yeah, so here we have a Muslim who was repeatedly raped by a Muslim, who bought her allegations against her attacker, publicly during the MeToo movement.
She winds up being abused, harassed, threatened, intimidated and now beaten and robbed as retaliation and violent retribution for her decision to speak out and label her rapist. As is another woman who is just trying to support her during this nightmare.
Yet you look to the literally countless number of women across the West who during the MeToo movement, made allegations of sexual misconduct, sexual assault and rape against a countless number of men – across the West, across industries etc – and those women who made those allegations were and still are, completely safe from retaliation and retribution.
Round the clock protection as a result of receiving thousands of death threats – and this is AFTER being repeatedly raped, and then bullied, threatened, intimidated and harassed – and AFTER – being beaten and robbed, versus absolutely no negative consequences whatsoever in any way, shape or form.
That is the difference between a Western male being the accused and a Muslim male being accused.
This is the difference between a Western female accuser and a Muslim female accuser.
Absolutely no retribution vs a laundry list of horrifying, escalating vindictiveness designed to traumatize, terrorize and permanently silence.
But diversity is our strength! All culture’s are equal! And the West is evil! – Until you compare the differences,of course.
mortimer says
Sarah, he seems to suffer from onset MS. Here is the description of it… Multiple sclerosis (MS) is a demyelinating disease in which the insulating covers of nerve cells in the brain and spinal cord are damaged. This damage disrupts the ability of parts of the nervous system to communicate, resulting in a range of signs and symptoms, including physical, mental, and sometimes psychiatric problems. Specific symptoms can include double vision, blindness in one eye, muscle weakness, trouble with sensation, or trouble with coordination. MS takes several forms, with new symptoms either occurring in isolated attacks (relapsing forms) or building up over time (progressive forms). Between attacks, symptoms may disappear completely; however, permanent neurological problems often remain, especially as the disease advances
gravenimage says
Mortimer–with all respect–what does Ramadan possibly having developed MS have to do with this story, or what Sarah was addressing? I am sorry if he–or anyone–has MS, but that has nothing to do with what he is accused of, or how he or his followers are attacking his accusers.
gravenimage says
Spot on, Sarah–compare and contrast.
Ren says
Defending a criminal is a specialty of the muslims.
tgusa says
With the western authorities being pretty much “on their side” it calls in to question the see something say something line of bs. After all, if you see something and say something the monsters will know who you are and where you live through the so-called western authorities who have recruited these types in to their ranks. I feel badly for the women under islam in the west as they really don’t have a chance, and they should, because that’s who western men are or used to be. I am much angrier at the western authorities than I am at the islamic perps. I don’t think I can ever forgive western authorities for this but I will hold them responsible.
Lavéritétriomphera says
“With the western authorities being pretty much ‘on their side'”, we are living in Europe a quasi-soviétization of our société.
Jayell says
So this is the sort of academic paragon of virtue that Oxford University has welcomed into halls of fame. Shouldn’t be surprised. Oxbridge was breeding Soviet spies years before this.
Jayell says
Sorry, completely off-topic. Have a look at this in today’s Daily Mail:-
“Is the Queen related to Prophet Muhammad? Historians believe Elizabeth II is a descendant of the founder of Islam after tracing her family tree back 43 generations”
And they’ve even printed a fancy-looking family tree. Unbelievable!
Eur says
Muhammad is a mythological character, he never existed. For that reason the error of that genealogical tree is in its root.
Lavéritétriomphera says
We have a letter from a Byzantine contemporary of Mohammed that demonstrates he existed. He was a merchant who had religious opinions.
Benedict says
Prince Charles is certainly a descendent of Muhammad. No need for a family tree to confirm this in his case.
Eur says
All European royal families are related, there was no need for Islamic proselytizers to remind us. The point is that in the same way that in the Christian Reibis the kings were kings by the grace of God … in Islam the royal families claim to be descendants of the Prophet Muhammad. It’s all a big lie … Everything.
Lavéritétriomphera says
@Benedict,
it’s a joke ?
Yokel says
I would guess it is merely a reflection of the Islamophilia displayed by Charles at almost every opportunity.
Lavéritétriomphera says
Probably, especially since we all know that islamophyls are liars !
gravenimage says
Assuming Muhammed existed historically–as Robert Spencer has shown, a pretty big “if”–then sure. Everyone is related to everyone else throughout history. I am an American of largely British and French ancestry–but I am still related, no matter how distantly, to Chinese emperors and Kalahari tribesmen. This doesn’t really mean anything.
Blurb1000 says
A sound comes to my head when I look at TR’s Picture:
Hzzzzz
FYI says
He is simply following his “prophet”…. by apparently demonstrating…. the MAD in Muhammad.
Lavéritétriomphera says
He is following himself as he is : a liar and an hypocrite.
Paddy O'Connor says
‘Cornered rats’ comes to mind. Don’t stop to think or they’ll jump at you.
Dr. Doom says
The religion of peace at it again.
Roland says
It is disturbing that Muslim violence in France is now outracing the ability of French police and soldiers to respond. And that is exacerbated by the submissive and permissive behavior of the French ruling class and intelligentsia.
b.a. freeman says
Presumably “Marie” will now have to be given the same round-the-clock protection as Henda Ayari.
—
of *course* she will, wink, wink, nudge, nudge!
Khalfan says
Give those women guns!