“The performance offers a view of Europe taken unawares by the migrant crisis. It asks unpleasant questions about religion, Europe’s stance on the situation in the Middle East and different approaches to terrorist attacks in Europe, Baghdad and Kabul in a provocative way, the festival programme managers say.”
A few lessons from this:
1. Europe’s political and media elites want to convince everyone, by means of a relentless propaganda barrage, that in Europe today, the villains are the “racist” “Islamophobes,” and their innocent victims are Muslims. There is no recognition of spiraling rates of rape and other crimes by Muslim migrant, nor acknowledgement of the establishment of Sharia enclaves. The only reason why anyone could possibly be opposed to the Muslim migrant influx is because one is a neo-Nazi. And if you disagree with that, you must also be a neo-Nazi.
2. One can commit blasphemy against Christianity and offend Christians with impunity. It’s cool, it’s edgy, and no one is going to get hurt. But blaspheming Islam and offending Islam? That is a grave offense, punishable by law in many places and elsewhere a sure career-killer that will get you labeled as outside the realm of polite society. The unspoken subtext is that if you criticize Islam, some Muslims might kill you, and in this age of cowardice that is enough to get most people to stand down.
The play is sold out. So is the Czech Republic.
“Bishops criticise play in which Jesus rapes Muslim at festival,” ČTK, April 20, 2018 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
Brno, April 19 (CTK) – Czech bishops have distanced themselves from the performance “Our Violence and Your Violence,” in which Jesus rapes a Muslim woman, in the programme of the May theatre festival in Brno, in a letter they sent to Brno Mayor Petr Vokral (ANO) and released on their website on Thursday….
The controversial performance, directed by Croat Oliver Frljic, is staged jointly by the Croat National Theatre in Rijeka and the Slovenian Mladinsko Theatre in Ljubljana.
Cardinal Dominik Duka, primate of the Czech Catholic Church, called the play “the sale of Christianity and its ideals.” He also said this concept offended not only Christians, but also Muslims and all Czechs.
The bishops of the Roman Catholic dioceses and the Apostolic Exarch representing the Greek Catholic Church dealt with the theatre performance at the plenary session of the Czech Bishops’ Conference in Nitra, west Slovakia.
In the past days, the festival organiser, the National Theatre in Brno, rejected the effort to withdraw the performance from the programme, which the Christian Democrats (KDU-CSL) and Communists (KSCM) demanded in the municipal assembly.
Festival director Martin Glaser stressed that the topic of this year’s festival was freedom. Though Frljic’s performance is an extreme art expression, this is a legitimate part of theatre, he said….
The performance offers a view of Europe taken unawares by the migrant crisis. It asks unpleasant questions about religion, Europe’s stance on the situation in the Middle East and different approaches to terrorist attacks in Europe, Baghdad and Kabul in a provocative way, the festival programme managers say.
The performance for 200 viewers scheduled for May 26 is sold out….
On Wednesday, Orthodox priest Libor Halik, who often protests against abortion, was standing with a big wooden cross outside the Husa na Provazku theatre where the controversial play would be shown.
On the other hand, colleagues from other theatres have supported the Brno festival organisers.
Mccode says
How about a showing of Mo the Moslem Monster doing what he IS renowned for.
Richard says
The last line of Mr. Spenser’s comment was one of the most brilliant things I’ve ever read:
“The play is sold out. So is the Czech Republic.”
Sons of Liberty says
+1
mortimer says
I APPROVE OF THIS GUTSY and INTELLIGENT PLAY. It is POINTING TO EXACTLY WHAT IS WRONG WITH ISLAM: MOHAMMED’S AMORAL CHARACTER.
gravenimage says
Mortimer–with all respect–how is showing *Jesus raping a Muslim women* revealing of Muhammed’s character? Instead, it posits Infidels as violent.
And Muhammed was not amoral–he was entirely *immoral*.
balam says
@ gravenimage:Sadly, the characters have been wrong placed .It should have been:MOHAMMAD RAPING A CHRISTIAN SLAVE NAMED-MARIA-THE COPT in HAFSA’S BED ON HER NIGHT .Please watch: Aisha and Mohammad by Imran Firasat on U TUBE.
gravenimage says
Kumar, Muhammed was never sodomized that we know of.
gravenimage says
True, balam.
And thanks for the reference to “Aisha and Mohammad” by Imran Firasat. I watched the first few minutes; it looks very promising. I’ll watch the whole thing as soon as I can. Here’s the link:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=arztNTF76SA
Baucent says
Perhaps you didn’t read the story, Mohammed doesn’t appear.
Oddly, the offensive play would never have been produced if Mohammed was characterized, as death threats would have been certain. Actually the play “asks unpleasant questions” about Liberals and Atheists who limit their attack on religion to the faiths that offer no resistance or retaliation. In other words they are cowards. Where were the Freedom loving festival organisers some years ago when Salman Rusdie was under death threat? Were they protesting for art and freedom, or hiding under their beds?
Herman says
be careful putting atheists and liberals on the same line, please. As an atheist myself I am NOT at all a liberal, and offended by your comment. That being said I do not agree whatsover with the islam appeasing mentality of lot’s of christians of all denominations.
gravenimage says
And not all Atheists attack religions.
Sons of Liberty says
This illustrates the absolute decline of Europe ! What a disgrace ! I thought the Czech Republic was fighting back like Poland and Hungary but they must be appeasers of Muslims.
Brian hoff says
Many hindu in india are up in arms about 4 hindu policeman gang rape than 8 year muslim girl for many day inside of than hindu temple and then murdering her outside the temple they where hardcore member of the BPJ party. India PM might be remove from office for try to cover this up.
gravenimage says
This is a hideous crime–this poor little girl.
Note that most Hindus condemn this crime, and that Hinduism does not teach the rape or murder of non-Hindus.
Would that we could say the same of Islam, which *does* teach the rape and murder of Infidels. Will “Brian hoff”–really, “DefenderofIslam”–condemn this? Don’t count on it.
And rape and murder are *crimes* in India–these disgusting thugs are being prosecuted for their crimes. God knows that Muslims are seldom prosectuted for raping or murdeing Infidels in Dar-al-Islam:
“Jammu policemen face charges over Asifa’s rape, killing”
https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2018/04/jammu-policemen-face-charges-asifa-rape-killing-180412082722965.html
Save Europe says
Why do I suspect you are ACTUALLY a Muslim imposter posting under a Western name, and writing in incredibly poor English!!!!
gravenimage says
Save Europe, “Brian hoff” has admitted he is a Muslim. He claims to be an American–a native Texan–who converted to Islam.
Peterson says
Hold on. The accused has requested for a CBI probe. There are many holes in the story. Not only that the investigation team was created by political intervention. As per the information available go me some of the officers had a criminal past. With the available information the case looks like a political set up.
gravenimage says
Peterson, if this story is false please let us know.
Lydia Church says
They must have gotten the Lord Jesus confused with mohammed. I have no idea of how that gross error could have occurred. How can you confuse the Holy God (and His Son Jesus) with the evil devil, and his messenger mohammed?
Total blasphemy!
Their judgment awaits.
snafubar says
+1
Terry Gain says
Mccode
I agree. We desperately need a blockbuster feature film which tells the true story of the life of the psychotic sociopath who invented this evil ideology.
BC says
I did not realise Jesus was a time traveller, which he would have to be. The Muslim’s religion was not invented until 6 centuries after Jesus alleged existence
WPM says
Islam does not have to play by the same logic as commonsense laws of time and space ,in its parallel world everyone is Moslem all things Islamic and the sun sets in a muddy pool at the end of every day! In their world Jesus did not die on the cross it was all a big joke on the people who witness it play by the fun loving god allah ! They cannot give an answer why God who pull this Islamic prank ,but allah promised them Jesus will be back in the end of days to slaughter all Christians and Jews .This guy allah is a real barrel of sh*t and giggles ! He has commanded in his holy books to kill all disbelievers, his followers to have prays cursing Jews and Christians said 5 times a day ,how can you not like him?
gravenimage says
+1
somehistory says
The Almighty God and Father will not allow these lies about His Son to go unpunished.
Savvy Kafir says
Every time someone makes a remark like that, invoking the wrath of God, who will surely do this or that, it’s as if they just cued the crickets. (But I guess God works in mysterious ways … and on His own schedule.)
That being said, even as a nonbeliever, I find this asinine play, involving Jesus raping a Muslim woman, really revolting. It’s a glimpse into the sick soul of Europe.
If the “artists” who created this steaming pile of insanity really had some balls, they’d do a play in which the Prophet Muhammad rapes some poor non-Muslim woman captured in battle (as he actually did) — or has sex with a 9-year-old girl when he was in his fifties (as the Perfect Man of Islam actually did). THAT would be edgy. And they would soon feel the sharp edge of some pissed-off Muslim’s knife biting into their necks … and they know it.
DHazard says
The left is now the establishment. They are boring and predictable.
Savvy Kafir says
DHazard — I’m a progressive myself; and I find the PC liberals/progressives of the Regressive Left to be more infuriating than boring. They certainly have become predictable, to some extent. But, like their Muslim friends/charity cases, they continually surprise me by taking their insanity to new extremes.
Stefan cel Mare says
Do you think for will pay your bills so you can accept his existence? God gave us most important gift-free will. It is us doing all wrong, not got accepting the evil. It is us to fight for our life, because it is our fault what it is happening. If we are idiots, God will save his work ultimately , but first we must save ourselves.
Stefan cel Mare says
Do you think God will pay your bills…..erata
Savvy Kafir says
Stefan — I don’t expect God to do anything, ever. I expect to pay my own bills, and fight my own battles.
mortimer says
YOU ARE FOOLISH, some’H’ !
NOW USE ‘SOME’ CRITICAL THOUGHT. The play is putting the unpleasant truth about Islam in a different costume in order to MAKE A POINT.
MUSLIMS WILL UNDERSTAND THIS PLAY PERFECTLY even if YOU see only BLASPHEMY. MUSLIMS SEE THAT THIS IS ABOUT MOHAMMED … MOHAMMED RAPED WOMEN … Jesus did not and condemned such violence … Jesus said, ‘Don’t even think about it.’ MOHAMMED SAID, ‘RAPE MARRIED CAPTIVES.’ So EVIL!
No Muslim will burn a building over this play or knife someone … AND NO CHRISTIAN EITHER!
THAT is the whole point. Do you GET IT NOW ?
JPP1969 says
yes I get it, and I love it 🙂
somehistory says
Ah, insults from the all-knowing mort.
You are making assumptions and calling others wrong and now “foolish.”
What I wrote is true and will happen. And as SK said, “on God’s schedule.” Can’t say when, but can say for sure He will act against these liars.
And, since you are so very fond of SHOUTING AT THOSE WITH WHOM YOU DISAGREE…, Those deaf or hard of hearing do a lot of shouting…KNOW THIS, I DON’T ENGAGE WITH THOSE WHO TRY TO INSULT MY INTELLIGENCE.
Do you ‘GET THAT NOW”?
Keys says
Thanks for the point mortimer. Hopefully, the muslim women will get it. The muslim men – not so sure.
utis says
Without reading the play, I must admit your interpretation makes the most sense. I heard about this play a while back and didn’t pay attention. No muslim existed in Christ’s time. As sci-fi fans would say, the timeline’s totally screwed up. I figured it was at best metaphorical stuff, with Jesus thrown in for the notoriety.
Terry Gain says
According to Islam, not only did Muslims exist in Christ’s time, they existed in Abraham’s time.
Except for the killing, terrorism, totalitarianism supremacism, xenophobia, misogyny, homophobia, insanity etc, etc, etc,… Islam would be a riot.
gravenimage says
Terry, as you know, according to Islam, not only did Muslims exist in Jesus’s time, but he was Muslim himself.
His role in the last days is to come back and murder Christians.
gravenimage says
Mortimer wrote:
YOU ARE FOOLISH, some’H’ !
NOW USE ‘SOME’ CRITICAL THOUGHT. The play is putting the unpleasant truth about Islam in a different costume in order to MAKE A POINT.
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Mortimer, I’m afraid you couldn’t be more wrong.
“Our Violence and Your Violence”
DESCRIPTION
The performance Our Violence and Your Violence observes the Europe which was – how naively – surprised by the refugee crisis, the Europe that unscrupulously forgets its colonial past while closing borders to those escaping the consequences of the European and American politics. As if the 20th century stubbornly did a single thing – fuelling the national narcissisms that taught one mass that it’s better than others, while forgetting on purpose that ostracism is a form of violence. The 21st century continues to teach the same lessons, but uses the indispensable weapon: fear. And fear is the most reliable condition for hatred.
For this reason, the performance Our Violence and Your Violence will ask a couple of very unpleasant questions: Are we aware that our welfare depends on thousands of dead in the Middle East? Do we cry for the victims of terrorist attacks in Paris and Brussels the same way as we do those in Baghdad and Kabul? In which moment did we start to believe that we are masters of truth and that our God is mightier than others?
https://mladinsko.com/en/program/13/our-violence-and-your-violence/
Does *this* sound like a sly criticism of Islam?
Seriously, this information is not difficult to find.
Mark Swan says
We could pity the Actors that accepted pay for this mindless performance—
but what about those who sit through it as an audience.
andra says
I am sorry, but even as a believing Christian I have to state that God has abandoned Europe for the time to be.
gravenimage says
Christians need to stand up now.
Wellington says
The stupidity and blasphemy of this aside (big aside to be sure), no way those involved with this “production” would have a play where Mohammed raped a Christian woman.
I hate double standards just as I hate cowardice. The two often go together.
Mark Swan says
Absolutely Wellington.
Michael McDermott says
Subject of play and blasphemy apart, Islam did not arrive until circa 500A.D., or am i mistaken.
Richard says
You are mistaken – it was more than a hundred years later…
Terry Gain says
Michael McDermott
Mohammed born 570, invents Islam 610. Flees to Medina with 120 followers in 620. Becomes a warmonger, terrorist and out of control sex addict. Dies n 632 ( reputedly of poisoning but my alternative theory, which is entirely unsupported but more fun, is that he succumbed to an eternity in HELL because of syphillis)
Terry Gain says
Correction
I believe the Hijra to Medina was in 622. I am not clear on whether Muhammad claimed to be a refugee or merely undocumented but I am sure that he said he would make Medina more diverse. Justin ab I’d Hussein Obamama Trudeau welcomed Muhammad and proclaimed his contribution to diversity was Medina’s strength.
Tjhawk says
There is nothing in the Christian tradition that would lead one to believe that Jesus ever raped anybody, or that rape is a cherished aspect of the culture.
Stories of mohammeds rapes are treasured in the islamic tradition. They try to hide this now that they realize the rest of the world is disgusted by mohammeds behavior. The stories of Safiyah, Juwayirra, etc. are cruel and revolting.
With respect to Christian / muslim rape, the story of Mary the Copt should be learned. Mary the Copt did not rape mohammed! Islamic tales brag about mohammeds prowess at rape.
Nobody has to make up fantasies to make mohammed look bad. He’s been disgusting for 1400 years.
gravenimage says
+1
Kathy says
Apparently, the Czechs are being softened-up to prepare them for the impending influx of “rapefugees” masquerading as real-life refugees, once their government gives in to EU pressure to accept their “quota” of rapists and murderers.
Unless the Europeans buck up their ideas and start fighting for their lands and their freedoms pretty soon, for their own sake and for the sake of future generations, euthanasia courtesy of Islam may well be their ultimate fate.
mortimer says
No, Kathy! this is PURE SARCASM! The play is MOCKING ISLAM.
JPP1969 says
exactly, so good, so smart
Savvy Kafir says
If you’re right, Mortimer, I think the people who produced this play miscalculated. Most Christians and other non-Muslims will be too shocked & offended to see that this is sarcasm aimed at Islam and Muhammad. The really hardcore PC Lefties won’t get the message either; they’ll just think it’s cool and edgy and bold.
Most Muslims certainly won’t get it — unless it becomes common knowledge. In that scenario, the producers of the play will have to deal with the wrath of the Allah junkies. (Not that that should restrain anyone from taking a swing at Islam, though.)
JV says
Is this a guess – or do you know this for a fact?
Terry Gain says
Mortimer, you are so smart and learned about Islam that I am inclined to accept what you say, but can you provide more information so that we, The Great Unwashed, can be satisfied beyond a reasonable doubt that this is not a boo boo on your part.
gravenimage says
Again, Mortimer, I’m afraid you are mistaken. This is translated directly from the Croatian:
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=hr&u=http://hnk-zajc.hr/en/predstava/our-violence-and-your-violence/&prev=search
“…Are we buying consciousness with our declarative solidarity? Now that we are witnessing one of the world’s greatest crises after World War II, should we be proud to call ourselves Europeans or should we be ashamed of Europe? Are we ready to bear the consequences of hundreds of years long European arrogant domination? Are we suffering from terrorist attacks in Paris and Brussels just as much as those in Baghdad? When did we start believing that we are the masters of the truth and that our God is more almighty than theirs?”
This is pure dhimmitude–it is not mocking Islam at all.
Mark Swan says
Reverse psychology—eh Mortimer.
gravenimage says
I’m afraid Mortimer and Savvy Kafir are mistaken about this, Mark.
Mark Swan says
Yes gravenimage—I do believe you are correct, I read the information on
Oliver Frljić, you shared with us, thank you, it puts things into perspective.
mortimer says
This play highlights EXACTLY WHAT IS WRONG with Islam!
The FOUNDER OF ISLAM is what is chiefly wrong with Islam … and all Muslims are required to IMITATE the monster Mohammed or (so they are told) they will go to hellfire.
Islam is absurd!
It is MANY CULTS IN ONE!
… a death cult, a rape cult, an extortion cult, a plunder cult, a censorship cult, a misogyny cult, a lie cult, a pedophilia cult, a sadomasochistic cult, an obsessive-compulsive cult, a supremacism cult, a Jew hatred cult, a Christianophobia cult, a male chauvinist cult, an inbreeding cult, an obscurantism cult, a superstition cult, a personality cult, a cruelty to animals cult, a group-think cult, a suicide cult.
gravenimage says
Mortimer, Oliver Frljić is *not* criticizing Islam. In fact, he has other anti-Christian plays, such as “The Curse”, which features a cross being cut down with a chain saw.
Here’s a review of “Our Violence and Your Violence” from the Wiener Festwochen:
“…Watching the relentless stereotypical violence of Naše nasilje I vaše nasilje, one cannot but sense Frljić’s overcompensating furor, trying to “explain” Islamic terror in the wake of a long history of Western colonial and religious terror, fascism and capitalist exploitation..He delights in attacking the hand that also feeds him now. The production floods the stage (in front of a back wall of dozens of oil barrels) with refugees and prisoners, who, at one point, perform a hallucinatory trance dance in orange Guantánamo detainee uniforms, and, in the next moment, appear naked, with calligraphic Arabic inscriptions on the skin as if they had walked out of a Shirin Neshat video. Jesus descends from the cross to rape hijab-wearing Muslim women; the dancing Guantánamo prisoners now sit in a circle and torture the new “Syrian” refugee just arrived…Then, there is the attack against the audience (of our bourgeois theatre) itself: “Am meisten schäme ich mich für Sie, das Theaterpublikum. Denn für Sie ist der Tod ein ästhetisches Ereignis” [I am most ashamed for you, the theatre audience. For you death is an aesthetic event].”
He does ask for a moment of silence for the terrorist attacks in Paris and Brussels, but this is really the only reference to Islamic violence, and it is pretty oblique.
http://www.critical-stages.org/14/atmospheres-of-dividual-performance/
(The review of Frljić’s play is about halfway down the page)
Mark Swan says
Yep—a real abstract thinker this Oliver Frljić.
PABLO says
Just fathom the mentality of the individuals who purchased tickets to see this abomination.
Terry Gain says
Is the Democrat Party having a retreat in Czechoslovakia?
Mark Swan says
Good One Terry Gain.
gravenimage says
Yes–a bunch of virtue-signalling tools.
And masochists, as well–Oliver Frljić castigates the audience and tells them he is ashamed of them for considering death “an aesthetic event”.
He doesn’t say what we should think of him for making money off this, of course…
DHazard says
Theoretically this play should offend Muslims almost as much as Christians, but it seems Muslims were silent but others weren’t. Attempts were made to shut down the play raising freedom of speech issues. Here is some info I found on the web about the play and the politics surrounding it:
“The performance was earlier opposed by the Croatian cultural society “Napredak” and several Bosniak associations which claimed that the play offended the religious feelings of Catholics and Muslims.
Napredak said Frljic’s play, called “Our violence and your violence”, was blasphemous and was not an act of artistic provocation but rather a blatant insulting of citizens’ and believers’ feelings.
The MESS management therefore decided to restrict access to the theatre hall, citing as the reason numerous threats and the inability to ensure the audience’s safety.
Regardless of the announcement, dozens of people who had bought tickets for the play gathered outside the theatre amid tight security, to protest against what they called censorship and intimidation.
After a brief argument with the festival’s organisers, the visitors were allowed into the threatre, with MESS director Nihad Kresevljakovic telling an enthusiastic audience that he could not guarantee their safety.
In the audience were numerous Sarajevo actors who came to express support for Frljic’s play.
The citizens’ protests were joined by members of Our Party (NS), which in the recent local elections scored very good results in Sarajevo municipalities.
“The organisers of the festival must take over responsibility, together with the Ministry of the Interior, and stop giving in to what is evident political pressure. We welcome citizens who, as the festival organisers have said, came to see the performance ‘at their own risk’, and thus stood up in defence of freedom of expression and assembly in Bosnia and Herzegovina,” Our Party said in a statement, stressing that religious groups could not be allowed to determine what plays would be performed in theatres.”
gravenimage says
I don’t think the play should be shut down–but it is disgusting to see so many self-hating tools flocking to it.
And of course Muslims are not that offended–the play is really an apologia for flooding Europe with ravening Mohammedan invaders.
Mark Swan says
I agree censoring is a two way path—to each their own.
No Muzzies Here says
They know who’s doing the raping, and it’s not Christians, symbolized by Jesus. This is calculated to anger Muslims, who have absolutely no problem translating anger into action, and to shame Christians into submission to their new masters.
Stefan cel Mare says
This is a test for population. Elites need to know if the population of Europe had enough sh-it or they can take more. If they react against…eventually violent, demanding heads of politicians. Well…not only they can take more, they ask for. All tickets sold. This is no hidden message…this is a test. In all European countries happen. Only few reacted in the East Europe…all the rest want some more. And the political agenda go further accelerated.
R Russell says
Well, when Erdogan comes, we know the Czechs wont resist.
gravenimage says
A lot of them will. Not the enthusiastic audience for this sickening play, though.
Terry Gain says
And so it came to pass that you could tell whatever insane vicious lie you wanted to tell about Christianity, but you couldn’t tell the truth about Islam.
Marco says
If that were a play about Mo raping a Christian the whole frakin world would be up in arms! Sad world
gravenimage says
Even though he did just that. The “Prophet” used Mary the Copt as a sex slave.
Simon says
Reading the comments, it seems it is not lost on anyone the fact that the premis of the play is in fact a complete reversal or reality. It is ironic in a sense that whilst they are trying to slander Christianity, most people will easily see that a play featuring Mohammed raping a Christian woman would have made a whole lot more sense. Might in fact have been a scene from real life 1400 years ago…
gravenimage says
Sadly, I don’t think many in the audience will see it that way at all. The whole thing is calumny against the West, and all too many are eager to lap this up.
Rarely says
I haven’t seen or read the play but from the information we have here I see it as neither sarcastic nor a thinly veiled attempt at criticising mohammed’s sexual practices. Rather I think it is an attempt to compare a civilized response to a severe provocation of Biblical (pun intended) proportions to the hyper-sensitivity of the uncivilized muslims. Stupid idea though
One can hope for and expect a normal reaction of petitions, protest, boycott and outrage — all non-violent. The play will go on, of course, if the Czechs have even a semblance of freedom of speech and expression. Muslims will surely be dumbfounded. When someone writes a book criticizing Christianity or Judaism the appropriate religious leaders don’t put a price on his head nor is he murdered for drawing disgusting cartoons. (Those Charlie Hebdo cartoons really were terrible –BUT we don’t kill people for having disgusting taste — usually).
The Play may backfire and Muslims will merely criticise Christians for being wimps by not murdering everyone associated with it. Worse yet, some extremist right wing Christian could do something foolish.
gravenimage says
Rarely wrote:
I haven’t seen or read the play but from the information we have here I see it as neither sarcastic nor a thinly veiled attempt at criticising mohammed’s sexual practices. Rather I think it is an attempt to compare a civilized response to a severe provocation of Biblical (pun intended) proportions to the hyper-sensitivity of the uncivilized muslims. Stupid idea though
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No, it’s not. Oliver Frljic is openly castigating Europeans.
More:
One can hope for and expect a normal reaction of petitions, protest, boycott and outrage — all non-violent. The play will go on, of course, if the Czechs have even a semblance of freedom of speech and expression.
……………………..
Of course it will go on. One can criticize a play–that is not the same thing as violently shutting it down.
More:
Muslims will surely be dumbfounded. When someone writes a book criticizing Christianity or Judaism the appropriate religious leaders don’t put a price on his head nor is he murdered for drawing disgusting cartoons.
……………………..
Why would Muslims be dumbfounded? This goes on all the time. Muslims are not impressed by our commitment to freedom of speech; they just consider us weak. They will be happy about self-hating tools like this director and the play’s dhimmi audience, though.
More:
(Those Charlie Hebdo cartoons really were terrible –BUT we don’t kill people for having disgusting taste — usually).
……………………..
Saying Muhammed was a terrorist is disgusting? Why?
More:
The Play may backfire and Muslims will merely criticise Christians for being wimps by not murdering everyone associated with it. Worse yet, some extremist right wing Christian could do something foolish.
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Oh, here we go. The real danger is violent Christians–even though they are in reality rarer than hen’s teeth.
gravenimage says
Czech Republic: New sold-out play depicts Jesus raping a Muslim woman
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Just *grotesque calumny*. Jesus was not a rapist–the “Prophet” Muhammed certainly was, though.
More:
Czech bishops have distanced themselves from the performance “Our Violence and Your Violence,” in which Jesus rapes a Muslim woman
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The problem with this is that “Your Violence”–the violence of Muslims, including mass rape of Infidel women and boys–is all too real, and “Our Violence”, as exemplified by Jesus raping a Muslim woman, is just a sick fantasy.
Kepha says
I could not agree more.
I’m not about to blow up the theater showing this travesty, but I’m not about to buy the English translation, either.
gravenimage says
Yes–disgusting calumny, Kepha. One of the articles I linked to has a picture of this fake rape. Just appalling.
Kepha says
And I even suspect that the playwright might be the sort who’d like central/eastern Europe to get on board with the suicide that western Europe is trying to commit.
gravenimage says
Seems likely, Kepha.
JM says
The play’s director strikes me as a shrewd and cynical opportunist and shock purveyor. Maximum disgust effect at minimal personal risk. Ergo bash Christianity with full force.
He’s no Christian, one would surmise. And whether he’s pointing a finger at Islam is doubtful. Too risky for his career and his neck.
gravenimage says
Yup.
Z says
Jesus and God are great and forgiving.
But I’m not them so f*** you, script writer and director!!!
Hell Awaits says
Art is art. It must be provocative and offensive. But before collapsing to the ground and covering head with ashes I’d like to see how this play would play out.
Christian Democrats and Communist would like to shut it down? You can’t have better advertisement for a play as to it being demanded to be scrapped by Christian Democrats and communists.
gravenimage says
No–the idea that all art has to be offensive or else it is not art is a *very* recent idea, where the only purpose of most “art” is to outrage whatever is left of the bourgeoisie.
I’m an artist and art historian, and I find this attitude reducticive, puerile, and repulsive.
Sometimes it makes sense for art to be discomfiting to make a point–that is not the same as just offensive spewings to make moral people feel uncomforatable, as most of this crap is.
Hell Awaits says
And regarding this play being outsold, well 200 people, that’s probably only Muslims in Brno.
gravenimage says
Oh, I doubt very much that many–or perhaps any–Muslims are attending this thing. I tseems to be mostly self-hating leftists.
Kathy says
Yet another case of some idiot trying to draw some kind of moral equivalence between two different things – “We occupied their lands and misbehaved, now they are occupying our lands and misbehaving…”, “We had our violence, now they are having their violence…”, “One thing leads to another…”, “What goes around comes around…”, “What can we expect, it’s all our fault, we started it…” – etc, etc ad nauseam…
And the one thing you must never forget is that, as far as the Arabs (and by extension their slaves the Muslims) are concerned, nothing is ever their fault, someone else is always to blame! Once we infidels accept this fact and the fact of our complete and utter subservience to our Islamic superiors, things will be so much easier… for them, that is…
/sarc off
Mark Swan says
Absolutely Kathy
Chris Malan says
The play is directed by a Croat. 90% of Croatians are Christians. I wonder what Oliver Frljic, the director, is. And who wrote the thing? Whatever those associated with this piece of art may be, they are morons as Muslims didn’t exist in the time of Jesus, as one commenter has already remarked. Whatever Islam says, nobody professed to be a Muslim before Mohammed’s time, about 600 years after Jesus died.
It just again confirms what I’ve said many times – those associated with the arts are monkeys with the intelligence of domestic animals. They have emotions to spare, but intelligence, no. Flying straight in the face of fact is nothing to them. What’s 600 years for a most likely devian artist?
gravenimage says
Chris Malan wrote:
It just again confirms what I’ve said many times – those associated with the arts are monkeys with the intelligence of domestic animals.
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Not all of us, Chris. The arts are overall in a *very* debased state right now, and often have more to do with leftist politics than any kind of actual art.
It was not always like this, though–and there is a small movement today to recapture the greatness of the arts.
Chand says
Some freaky Czech makes a play depicting Jesus in a metaphorical, although abhorrent way and immediately Muhammad is cursed for being a rapist!
That Czech playwright is probably an atheist or a descendant of Christians, I’m sure.
So how come it is being portrayed as if this is a fault of Muslims?
Czechoslovakia had a communist past and so many there are probably atheists and don’t think twice about lampooning any religious figure.
Anyway, what proof is there that Muhammad was a rapist?
But then isn’t Muhammad a fictional, imaginary character who never really existed?
gravenimage says
My God, what crap from dishonest Muslim apologist Chand.
The “Prophet” Muhammed is not a rapist because of this play, as Chand pretends, but because of the texts of Islam.
Muhammed took sex slaves and raped them, including Safiyya, whose husband and entire family he had just massacred.
There are Hadith where Muhammed actually castigates his thug companions for *not* raping their captives. (They were concerned about ransoms).
The Qur’an and Hadith are full of references to taking sex slaves.
And Muhammed “married” a six year old, and began raping the child when she was nine.
It does not matter whether the “Prophet” existed historically or not–Muslims believe that he did, and rape little girls and Infidel women on this model.
And–a minor point–the playwright is not Czech–the Czech Republic is just the latest place this play is being staged.
Mark Swan says
Absolutely gravenimage.
gravenimage says
Thanks, Mark.
FYI says
Will the Croat Scrote Frljic be performing say,
Aisha:the movie
{the life of muhammed’s 9 year old “wife”}
Or
The mad life of muhammad
[A mass-murdering,polygamist psychopath}
In the name of extreme art expression, and as a legitimate part of theatre?
Imagine the controversy over who would play Aisha:a little girl forced to be the “wife” of the psychopathic
middle-aged “prophet” muhammed.And unlike the Croat Scrote’s execrable play,it would be based on … reality.
FYI says
Just to demolish the islamic error that Jesus is muslim:-
“We JEWS know who we worship,because it is from the Jews that salvation comes”
John 4 v 22
“WE JEWS”…Did you read that,oh followers of the counterfeit god allah?
Since Jesus Christ was Jewish- by his own admission- then He certainly was not a muslim.
Given that allah in his koran refers to Jews as “apes,to be despised and hated” k2v 65,Jesus Christ is of course under allah’s curse(an awkward fact for muslims…)..along with ALL those JEWISH Biblical prophets.
{allah doesn’t think things through in his “perfect” book:apart from telling muslims its OK to break God’s Commandments ….and of course his epic theology failures…}
Given that the “holy” koran DENIES that Jesus Christ was even crucified {“they slew him not nor crucified him” koran(4 v 157),it is clear that the koran would not be acceptable to Jesus Christ{or to that other ‘ape,to be despised and hated’ …That JEWISH prophet Moses(who of course muslims believe ,ridiculously,to be a muslim)
By the way..
“God is spirit,and only by the power of His Spirit can people worship Him as He really is”
John 4 v 24
It is this Holy Spirit that the regular moslem troll on JW attacks and calls “satan”:That shows the utter contempt islam has for God’s Truth.
gravenimage says
Islam claims that at one time Jews *were* Muslim, but then they “corrupted” their scriptures with such things as “do to others what you want them to do to you” and the concept of a loving God–and that before this the Torah (Taurat) was as savage as the Qur’an. Never mind that there is, needless to say, no evidence for this.
kouldb says
Imbeciles. But I’m surprised by the Czechs allowing this to go ahead. But in any case. This is why Hungary doens’t want them, nor Soros et al. in their country. Same with the Poles. For they’re not satisfied with getting refuge, housing, food, clothing & education. They want insurrection, domination & control.
gravenimage says
No one should stop this disgusting play from being staged–but I *am* sickened to see so many foolish Czechs flocking to this ugly thing.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
mr spencer, the rascality of insulting and ridicling of true jesus (Isa ibn maryam) carries death penalty under sharia Ïn the Same way it is the case for insulting prophet muhammad. The film is therefore blasphous in islam. In mithraist christianity it is not, because mithraist bible reported that mithraist jesus had sex friend called macdalen.
gravenimage says
The repulsive Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
mr spencer, the rascality of insulting and ridicling of true jesus (Isa ibn maryam) carries death penalty under sharia Ïn the Same way it is the case for insulting prophet muhammad. The film is therefore blasphous in islam.
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Firstly, or course, this is rarely the case. Muslims ridicule Jesus all the time, because they put little stock in his actually being a ‘Muslim prophet’–this is just a way of undercutting the civilized Christians.
And, needless to say, the Muslim “Isa” really has nothing in common with the Jesus of the Gospels. He is not the Savior, and not a peacemaker. Instead, his main role in Islam is to *slaughter Christians* in the last days.
More:
In mithraist christianity it is not, because mithraist bible reported that mithraist jesus had sex friend called macdalen.
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Civilized Christians are not told to slaughter anyone for blasphemy–only Islam does this.
And no, there is no such claim in the Bible that Jesus had a “sex friend called macdalen”. For one thing, there is no such figure in the Bible.
Oh–wait–does Ibrahim itace muhammed mean Mary Magdalene? She was one of the women who was a witness to his crucifixion, burial, and resurrection–all things Muslims deny.
Even though there was no basis for it, she was sometimes conflated with the woman taken in adultery. Of course, even if one accepted this error, it makes little difference in this context–the unnamed woman taken in adutery was not a “sex friend” of Jesus’s, either.
Jesus showed mercy, and did not have her stoned to death–something that, of course, this vicious Mohammedan is unable to understand. Jesus told her, “neither will I condemn you; go and sin no more”. To suppose this means that he himself was committing adultery with her shows just how perverse Muslims are.
But this should not surprise–after all, Islam says “let no compassion move you” (Qur’an 24:2) with reference to this situation. No doubt the vile Ibrahim itace muhammed would cheerfully stone women to death. *Ugh*.
Hogdude says
Well, if that’s offensive, we could always drop a crucifix into a vial of urine. Oh, wait, that’s already been done.
Dexter Wilson says
This is just like the crucifix in Urine, this is a psycho-sicko program. God help us as we get further from the Creator.
Peter says
So, 600 plus years after the crucifixion, Jesus rapes a muslim but I understood that in islam the belief is that Jesus was not crucified, so how is that possible? If this is all metaphorical and the statement is meant to imply that Christianity ‘raped’ islam, I would have to say they have it a** backward.
Darryl Kerney says
How can they be stupid enough to miss the glaringly obvious ?
How could Jesus rape a muslima when islam didn’t exist in his time and wouldn’t for another 600+ years ?????
Arthur says
I rather doubt this one Croatian playwright represents a significant population of the Czech Republic. I believe the Czechs, like the Hungarians, are solidly anti-immigration.
I suspect this playwright is simply a media whore and figured he could grab attention if he did something outrageous. It wouldn’t surprise me in the least if he had done previous stunts intended to grab attention, but they just failed to gain notoriety.
It would be interesting if a mainstream newspaper published that the play had Mohammed raping a Muslim woman, and then went on to detail when and where the playwrite would be in the coming days. The paper could then publish a retraction a few days later, along with the playwright’s obituary and details of his memorial service.
gravenimage says
Agreed, Arthur.
Barb says
Isn’t it enough that we know all about Mohamed and the death cult of Islam? Why is Jesus and Christianity painted in the same light here? This play is only bringing Jesus to the same level as the demon Mohamed and puts Christianity equal with Islam when real Christians beliefs in the Word of God are superior. Jesus was/is perfect and preached that we should love our enemies and pray for them. He taught us to abstain from the very appearance of evil.
It doesn’t negate self defense when we are in danger or wanting to keep them out of our countries as we know the real reason they want to come….but everything else about this play is just….so wrong.
patriotliz says
Surprised at the Czech Republic…one of the V4 nations.
In the interests of free speech…they should do a play of Muhammad raping the Virgin Mary as his eternal concubine in paradise.
http://raymondibrahim.com/2017/02/10/muhammads-sexual-fantasies-virgin-mary/