This is a manifestation of the culture of violence that is created by the divine mandate for the beating of disobedient women (Qur’an 4:34) and the general reduction of women to commodities: when they get out of line, there is no limit to the punishment that can be meted out.
“Child and mother stabbed at Jungfernstieg station in Hamburg,” translated from “Kind und Mutter am Bahnhof Jungfernstieg in Hamburg erstochen,” Der Tagesspiegel, April 12, 2018:
In a knife attack at Jungfernstieg station in Hamburg, a child and his mother have been stabbed to death. The father of the child was arrested.
In a knife attack in downtown Hamburg, a 34-year-old mother and her one-year-old daughter were fatally injured on Thursday. The ex-husband of the woman, a 33-year-old from Niger, was arrested near the crime scene on Jungfernstieg, police said. He is the father of the child. He had “targeted and brutally” stabbed his two victims, said police spokesman Timo Zill. The murder weapon has not yet been found.
The crime took place in the area of the underground S-Bahn station Jungfernstieg. Nearby are shopping streets, the popular Binnenalster and the town hall.
The child died at the scene. The mother succumbed to her injuries in the hospital. The police assume that this act was related to their relationship. “Many details are currently completely unclear to us,” said police spokesman Timo Zill.
The suspect had even called the emergency number; word reached the police at 10:50 AM. The homicide squad took over the investigation. The area on the Jungfernstieg was cordoned off. A helicopter landed….
In recent times, several acts done with knives – including in Berlin, Kandel, Lünen and Dortmund – caused great consternation in Germany. In Hamburg, last October, a Pakistani man killed his two-year-old daughter with a knife: the man admitted the crime in court, the trial is still going on.
Undaunted says
Too bad the Polizei didn’t arrive as he was committing his murders. Presuming they were armed, they could have whispered an order for the “man” to drop the knife… and then shot the shit out of him when he failed to comply.
mortimer says
Thanks, Merkel, for all the vibrant, multicultural enrichment. (sarc/off)
tedh754 says
Islam! Turning civil societies into sh*tholes one Muslim at a time.
mummymovie says
Ahhh… the joys of islam! Like a disease, spreading misery wherever it goes.
mortimer says
Islam is a pox on the world.
J D S says
Mortimer….you are so right…….and the pox needs to be vaccinated… er ah… eradicated.
Dum Spiro says
It’s bad and sad. Poor decisions on immigration and a lack of understanding of real ideological threats are giving formerly prosperous and relatively safe Western countries — and their children — a present and future the common folk do not deserve.
Western Hemisphere western countries and their current majority populations: Have you begun to be told about your White and Christian “privilege” yet? This divide and conquer method is coming soon (if not already at work), especially for the future of your children and grandchildren. Will you recognize the threat and do what is necessary to protect your culture and them? You know it’s up to you…
— Spero
Jean Terry says
It is political correctness, which is insanity.
Lebel says
I learn alot about Islam on Jihadwatch. Apparently it is allowed, nay encouraged, to kill your (female) children and wife when you want, how you want and where you want.
I’m starting to understand how things work here.
1. Look for crimes, any crime whether its bestiality, mass murder, theft or cannibalism, involving people with Muslim names
2. Make link with Islam
3. Blame Islam
Strangerinastrangeland says
Look at the incarceration rates in the host countries. Your misplaced fear of racism should disappear.
Angus66 says
“I learn alot about Islam on Jihadwatch. Apparently it is allowed, nay encouraged, to kill your (female) children and wife when you want, how you want and where you want.
I’m starting to understand how things work here.
1. Look for crimes, any crime whether its bestiality, mass murder, theft or cannibalism, involving people with Muslim names
2. Make link with Islam
3. Blame Islam”
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Bestiality is allowed under islam. There are even guidelines/rules as to how the animal can be sold after a muslim has sex with it.
Mass murder is also allowed – and is in some cases compulsory – under islam as long as you’re killing “unbelievers”.
Theft is also allowed – as long as you’re not stealing from another muslim.
The quran teaches that allah gave EVERYTHING to muslims. So anything muslims don’t possess – land, resources, property and women – are rightly theirs and can be taken at any time.
mortimer says
Lebel, YOU LOSE … here is what SHARIA LAW SAYS: The killer of an apostate is not punished:
– Reliance of the Traveller (manual of Sharia law), ref. O8.4 : “There is no indemnity for killing an apostate (O: or any expiation, since it is killing someone who deserves to die).”
– Reliance of the Traveller: O1.2 – “The following are not subject to retaliation: -3- a Jewish or Christian subject of the Islamic state for killing an apostate from Islam (O: because a subject of the state is under its protection, while killing an apostate from Islam is without consequences)”
THE KILLING OF OFFSPRING IS WITHOUT PUNISHMENT:
The Sharia manual, Reliance of the Traveler says, “retaliation is obligatory against anyone who kills a human being purely intentionally and without right.” However, “not subject to retaliation” is “a father or mother (or their fathers or mothers) for killing their offspring, or offspring’s offspring.” (Umdat al-Salik o1.1-2).
Koran 18.74-81 is used to justify the honor killing of children or grandchildren. Sharia law confirms the Koranic text in K.18.74
LEBEL, YOU ARE NOT AN EFFECTIVE TAQIYYA-MONGER. YOU ARE EASY TO REFUTE.
J D S says
If the apostate law had been removed from Islam…..Islam would have vanished long ago.
gravenimage says
I see the repulsive Lebel wants us to ignore Islamic “Honor Killings”. He hopes that sneering can take the place of actually having to say anything accurate.
Note, also, that he has not a word of criticism for these terrible murders. This should not surprise.
Steve says
The Muslim woman probably felt empowered to escape her owner, now that she was in an infidel country. Little did she know.
Rarely says
Just because a muslim commits a crime — even one as vile as this one — doesn’t mean that it has anything to do with islam. Broken marriages often lead to violence. How many ex- or estranged wives are murdered each year in the U.S.? Of course it is even more abhorrent (and less understandable) when the child(ren) are murdered as well.
There is enough the matter with islam that we don’t need to manufacture religious wrongs out of marital ones when we have as little information as this article provides.
I wonder if, by placing so much emphasis on crimes that may be independent of the perpetrator’s religious beliefs, we may be distracting from the real problem – islamization of the west.
CogitoErgoSum says
I agree. The justification of a husband beating a disobedient wife is inadequate. The woman was no longer his wife and he didn’t just beat her he stabbed her with a knife. Also, what about the murder of an infant? I think some boundaries were crossed by this migrant man that even Islam would not condone.
Rarely says
It’s a matter of the motivation involved.
Keys says
The point is the Islam sanctifies these actions, but so not in the West.
See mortimer’s comment at 2:31 pm above
CogitoErgoSum says
Keys, it’s not clear that the woman was an apostate and even then that would not justify the killing of an innocent child. Now it could be that the child’s death was accidental but I think we still need more information concerning the motives of the murderer. Was it because of the woman’s apostasy? Maybe more will come out in the future but for now I think the thread connecting this to Islam is pretty thin.
maghan says
The key point here is that killing a female in a Muslim country is less serious than in non-Muslim lands. Why? Because Muhammad, the most perfect man for Muslims, raped and murdered females at will. He endorsed slavery and the rape of female captives and slaves.
He also claimed that females were worth less than males–because that was how Allah created them.
Rarely says
There are thousands of ex- and estranged wives murdered each year in America by their non-muslim significant others. Emotions can run so high that reason is not just put on a back burner but is nonexistent. There may be absolutely nothing related to religion or culture involved here. The relative values of man/woman in islam is likely totally irrelevant in this case. It is very damaging to jump to conclusions with so little evidence.
When a muslim kid steals a candy bar from a store it may be because of the muslim feeling of entitlement vis-a-vie the dhimmis OR it may just be a kid wanting a candy bar.
gravenimage says
Muslims can beat their wives, can “Honor Kill” disobedient women, and incur no penalty when killing their own children. The idea that this is immaterial is, with all respect, just silly.
Such “Honor Killings” are rife in the Muslim world.
David says
All religion puts life in a certain context clearly Islam shows our existence being dictated by a god that wants people to live like big Mu did so if Mu murders then its ok to murder. Islam is the main cause.
CogitoErgoSum says
I don’t dispute that Muhammad set the example for Muslims so at first I was thinking about the murder of Asma bint Marwan but that still does not justify the murder of an infant. Also, many Muslims do not accept the bint Marwan story as being true. I would like to see a more direct connection to Islam than just the fact that the killer is a Muslim. I would like to be able to connect the dots so that Islam stands out as a clear part of the picture. Did Islam cause this man to feel he was justified in killing his ex-wife and daughter? Not so easy for me see in this case.
Rarely says
Exactly.
Vlad says
Your comment is like saying. I know it’s raining, but is that the reason why people that are walling in the rain are wet?
OR: Does excreta stink?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q9ZSII3qADI
Watch it to the end…..
and get educated…..
Raja says
CogitoErgoSum, Doesn’t Islam encourage the murder of apostates, beating of wife, devalue women in general., the genocide of non-Muslims, uprooting of indigenous population en masse and so on and so forth?
True, we don’t know the motives of the criminal and the beast but this kind of savagery is given a tinge of religion as is always the case with the lawlessness of Muslims.
A set of actions by a set of people (in a society) becomes a culture. In Islam, the perfectly evil practices are not questioned. leave alone revulsed.
I would agree with Mortimer, in this case.
CogitoErgoSum says
I don’t deny that Islamic attitudes towards women as being inferior to men, wife beating and death for apostasy encourage a culture of brutality. I’m just stating that this news report does not give me any indication as to which of these attitudes was responsible for the murder of a woman and her infant child by her ex-spouse. Some of you feel that the fact that the killer is a Muslim is good enough reason to infer his motives. I do not. I think there could be other reasons as well. People of other religions or no religion at all have been know to murder their ex-spouses and children. I prefer to have as many facts as possible before I draw a conclusion so I’m going to wait for more facts before I say any more concerning this particular case. What’s uneducated about that?
gravenimage says
CogitoErgoSum and Rarely, Muslim “Honor Killings” are on the rise throughout Europe with the growing numbers of Muslims there:
“Europe Grapples with ‘Honor Killings'”
http://www.dw.com/en/europe-grapples-with-honor-killings/a-1244406
“‘Honor killings’ in Germany: When families turn executioners”
http://www.dw.com/en/honor-killings-in-germany-when-families-turn-executioners/a-42511928
Ashley says
I have to agree as well.
Domestic violence is not unique to Islam…or Germany.
More than 1 in 3 women (35.6%) and more than 1 in 4 men (28.5%) in the U.S. have experienced rape, physical violence, and/or stalking by an intimate partner in their lifetime.
This was a horrible crime but I cannot ascribe it to Islam. At least not as presented in this post.
AleX says
Your comment is disingenuous to say the least.
You refuse to admit a behavioral pattern is there since the knife attacks waves started in Germany (and elsewhere in Europe) ONCE the migrant waves arrived.
You refuse selectively to attribute the frequency of these crimes and murders (performed almost exclusively by the religionists of piece) to the influx of mohomedans in their hijra to the West.
Your dishonesty is when you know well that a certain antisocial behavior is prescribed and sanctioned in the mohamedan religious texts and traditions and yet you point to other events (non-religiously motivated) as examples of murder in general.
When was the last time a native German used a knife to murder his wife and child?
Use the frequency criterion and then deduce how and why it is done to discover the jihad (yes, that jihad that you so ardently try to ignore).
pragmatist says
Absolutely. Another one (it happens all the time in the UK) who tries to excuse specifically Islamic inspired violence by insinuating that other people are just as bad, thus implying that it’s not so reprehensible after all.
Raja says
+ 1. Amen
Diane Harvey says
“stabs his ex-wife and one-year-old daughter to death at train station”
And still, at this late date, Islam has not yet grabbed the attention of Germans,
Veracious_one says
there exists direct correlation between increased violence and increased Muslim population….and the prisons are filling up with those who Allahu Akbarred there way in….
afrostreetwise says
Kindly someone help me understand; How does one stab a baby? Exactly how is that even possible?
Ashley says
Are you serious?
If you are intent on stabbing an infant you will plunge a knife into the child.
afrostreetwise says
Argh! Sometimes I love our offline justice system. In most big towns in Kenya, If you deliberately go about committing such murderous act in public, the public would most likely lynch the perpetrator. In most cases somebody is killed and burnt while still alive. Yes I know it’s cruel in cases such as this, it’s the only justice.
Rarely says
Barbaric response to a barbaric crime. Just as bad as the original perpetrator…if not worse. Totally uncivilized.
Ashley says
Yep.
I don’t understand this: “In recent times, several acts done with knives – including in Berlin, Kandel, Lünen and Dortmund – caused great consternation in Germany. In Hamburg, last October, a Pakistani man killed his two-year-old daughter with a knife: the man admitted the crime in court, the trial is still going on.”
Shit. I’m in Massachusetts. Fatal stabbings are commonplace. Domestic violence is commonplace.
Why did we have to go to Jungfernstieg Station in Hamburg for this story?
Martin says
Just past the 1:09 mark on this video «…. He cut off the head of the baby …»
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3lBv0RcPBtA
Brother Charles says
I WILL GIVE YOU THE ONE CONNECTION WHY THESE EVIL PEOPLE DO THIS ,THEY ALL READ THE SAME BOOK , DID YOU LEFTIST LIBERAL SNOWFLAKES HERE THAT , THEY ALL READ THE SAME BOOK . NOW DO SOMETHING ABOUT IT .” BARUCH HABA B,SHEM YHWH ” Blessings on the victims and A CURSE ON THE EVIL ONE .
The European says
To Mortimer
It’s also quite interesting to take a closer look at the meaning of apostasy from Islam.
Acts that define “leaving Islam” and being subject to execution include …
1.”to intend to commit unbelief, even in the future”
So, not only the act of apostasy itself is punishable by death, but even the utterings of one’s intention to do it.
2. “to deny the existence of Allah -or any of his attributs.”
If atheistic scholars like Richard Dawkins were to live in a Muslim country where sharia law is applied to its full extent, he would die very soon at the hand of the executioner.
3.”to be sarcastic about Allah’s Name, his command, his interdiction … his threat.”
Here they are: the famous blasphemy laws Muslims who have already established strong Muslim communities in Western countries would like to enforce on us.
4.”to deny any verse of the Quran.”
That excludes any critical study of the Quran, it is a ban on rational thinking, free research and free scholarship.
5.”To mockingly say, I don’t know what faith is.”
To express even mild forms of scepticism would count as apostasy and those who are guilty of “mockery” would have to die. Indeed, sharia law is nothing but a religious terror regime and its totalitarian zealotry is disgusting and outrageous to the human spirit.
6.”To believe that things in themselves or by their own nature have any causal influence independent of the will of Allah.”
In other words: everything that happens in the world is in accordance with Allah’s will. It occurs, because Allah wills it. What a strange and absurd reasoning. If it were true, we would have to assume, for example, that the killing of this little child and his mother was Allah’s will; they wouldn’t have died, if Allah had not given his assent, if he hadn’t been the cause of it. This Allah must be a monster, a deity you should never trust, a “God,” who isn’t bound by any covenant, acting only on his whims.
( Source, Religion Of Peace, articles on sharia law)
Aaron says
Thanks to Hillary and Kerry Libya is so unstable the Muslims pass thru with no problem from sub Sahara Africa
Libya in the past secured their southern boarder now it’s open and the flood can pass thru to Italy
gravenimage says
Germany: Muslim migrant stabs his ex-wife and one-year-old daughter to death at train station
…………………..
This poor woman and child. God, I hate Islam.