While the West is busy hunting Russian “witches,” its sworn enemies devour it alive from within.
In 1986, Georges Besse, the manager of France’s largest state company, Eurodif, arrived at his office as per usual. When he got out of his car, he was shot at point-blank range by unknown people on a motorcycle. Initially the authorities accused the left radical Action Directe, but very soon the intelligence service found the Iranian trace.
The Iranians, who owned shares of Eurodif, demanded that Paris pay them the dividends that were frozen after the Islamic revolution. The murder of Besse was a blatant menace, and it worked. France not only failed to expel Iranian diplomats, but paid Tehran more than $1.6 billion in 1991.
The politics of the West is determined by the dominant discourse. That is why the murder of Besse remained unnoticed and unpunished, but the case of Sergei Skripal (which was very doubtful in itself) led to a mass hysteria.
Western political consciousness is schematic and one-sided. It forms its own Manichean mythology, with ominous forces, martyrs, cunning conspirators and innocent victims. What can be a better illustration of this perception of the world than the blind faith that even now, after the collapse of the Arab world, the “Israeli occupation” remains the source of all troubles in the Middle East and in the world?
I am not a supporter of the current regime in the Kremlin, and in Russia I would choose to vote for Ksenia Sobchak. I’m extremely disgusted by the murderous manipulations in the east of Ukraine. I’m alarmed by the military hysteria and whitewashing of such monstrosities as Stalin and Ivan the Terrible. I am worried that the national consciousness is carrying the idea of future tyranny.
However, it is also obvious to me that Russia was chosen for the role of the universal villain long before the case of Skripal. The bombing of Serbia, the provocative expansion of NATO to the East, the missile defense complex in Poland, the absurd campaigns for LGBT rights in Russia, the blaming of Russia in all failures and misfortunes — from hackers who allegedly changed the course of the 2016 election in the US to Brexit — Russia was demonized on the most trivial pretext.
Putin wouldn’t be able to destroy the West even if he wanted to. He has no tools for this: neither a radical ideology like the communist one, nor a “Trojan horse” that is a bearer of such ideology.
Such an ideology and its bearers exist in other countries that are eager to conquer the West. Alien trans-territorial entities have been formed in its body: nests of hatred, ignorance and fanaticism controlled by Islamists: the “Muslim brothers” (MB), the Salafis and the Shiite “Hezbollah.” All of them are represented by political movements and parties. All of them are financed by Turkey, Iran and Qatar. Like a wasp larva in the body of a living victim, they poison and devour their carrier from within.
According to Sweden’s Civil Contingencies Agency in March 2017, the MB controls Muslim community there. In December 2017, Chief Prosecutor Lise Tamm compared the Stockholm suburb of Rinkeby to the so-called “war zones” in Colombia that are occupied by drug dealers, criminal bands and insurgent groups.
The representative of the Danish “Venstre” party, Preben Bang Henriksen, said that in terms of safety, the situation was the worst since World War II.
In August, the German BfV claimed that Salafists were preparing local Muslims to commit acts that would be accompanied by group and individual terrorism. Muslim bikers and “Sharia police” patrol the streets of cities in the name of the fight against Islamophobia. “We see it [Islamist terrorism] as one of the biggest threats facing the internal security of Germany,” said Hans-Georg Maassen, head of the German Federal Office for the Protection of the Constitution. Still, they are afraid of Russian hackers in the Bundestag.
It is not Putin, it is Erdogan who promised Europe “religious wars,” and not Russians, Germans and Jews, but Muslims who will become “cannon fodder” in these wars.
It was not Moscow, it was Tehran and Hezbollah that created a Shia network in Germany with a center in Hamburg and “sleeper cells” in North Rhine-Westphalia.
In France, the Union des organisations islamiques de France (UOIF) and its mother organization, the Federation of Islamic Organizations in Europe (FIOE), are branches of the MB.
In October 2016, a youth gang besieged Hélène-Boucher school in Seine-Saint-Denis. They attacked the building with firebombs and beat the director. Yacine, 21 years old, a student at the University of Paris, said: “This is a warning. These young people don’t act spontaneously; they attack institutions, the State itself.” Did anybody listen to her?
It was Qatar, not Russia, that invested 50 million euros to establish Sharia in French cities in 2012. The Emir of Qatar, Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al-Thani, subsidizes radical groups all over the world.
“Everyone knows that all mosques in Brussels are in the hands of Salafists,” said former Brussels mayor Yvan Mayeur. In Molenbeek alone, there are 51 organizations connected with terrorism.
The new Muslim party “Be.One,” headed by the Lebanese founder of the European Arab League, Dyab Abou Jahjah, is a branch of Erdogan’s Justice and Development Party, abbreviated officially as the AK Parti in Turkish, a part of the MB. The same can be said about the Denk Party in Holland.
The Austrian Party Neue Bewegung für die Zukunft (New Movement for the Future) is a fifth column of the new Turkish sultan, and it even doesn’t hide it.
The Pakistan-born journalist Shams Ul-Haq lived in asylum homes across the country under the guise of a migrant. He said that Salafists were invading the minds of the migrants and triggering religious hatred by recruiting them into militias.
Sebastian Kurtz is one of the few Western leaders who understands that it is them, not Putin, who represent a strategic threat to his country.
Back in 1985 in Spain, which is still called al-Andalus by Arabs, the Saudis opened the Islamic Cultural Center in Madrid, which was the Europe’s second largest mosque after the the Islamic Center of Malaga, and launched a new TV channel, Córdoba TV. The Sheikh of Qatar is planning to buy the famous La Monumental Arena in Barcelona to turn it into the Europe’s biggest mosque. The UAE subsidized the building of the Great Mosque of Granada, and Kuwait is funding the construction of mosques in Reus and Torredembarra.
Iran subsidizes the popular left-wing radical party “Podemos.” Is this also Kremlin’s hand?
According to a July 2017 report of the Henry Jackson Society, Middle Eastern countries provide financial support to mosques and Islamic educational institutions in the UK. Tom Brake, a Liberal Democrat and foreign affairs spokesman, said that Saudi Arabia funded hundreds of Wahhabi mosques in the country. A counterinsurgency expert, Tom Collins, warned about the MB danger. He called it a terrorist organization and underlined that Qatar funded the organization. According to a Jenkins Commission report, the MB is dangerous and prone to violence, threatening the national interests of the country.
Britain is building an alliance against Moscow.
In the US, they found out about the plans of the MB back in 1991, after an MB activist had written a memorandum about civilization jihad in America. Yet the MB’s activity is still a mystery. “I’ve been studying the Brotherhood for 15 years,” says Lorenzo Vidino, director the Program on Extremism at George Washington University. “I maybe understand 10 percent of how it works,” adding that “it is clearly linked to the Brotherhood abroad.”
The MB in the USA was closely connected to the now-defunct Holy Land Foundation, which transferred funds to Hamas. The MB is represented now by (among other groups) CAIR, which was declared a terrorist group in the UAE. In 2008, FBI Special Agent Lara Burns labeled CAIR a front group for Hamas, and in January 2009, the FBI’s DC office cut ties with CAIR.
However, the MB hasn’t been banned, and is forming an alliance against American democracy with Antifa and Black Lives Matter.
At the same time, Iran and Hezbollah have founded a branch network in Latin America and the US. “Hezbollah is determined to give itself a potential homeland option as a critical component of its terrorism playbook,” said Nicholas Rasmussen, Director of the National Counterterrorism Center, after recent arrests of alleged Hezbollah operatives in New York and Michigan.
Nevertheless, the US is obsessed with hunting Russian “witches.”
Let me remind you of something. It is not in Moscow, but in Tehran, that homosexuals are hung on construction cranes. It is not in St. Petersburg, but in Istanbul that journalists, teachers, professors and public figures are rotting alive in jails. It is not in Russia, but in Iran, that political prisoners are raped in prisons. Not Russia, but Turkey carries out the ethnic cleansing of Kurds. It is not in Russia, but in Qatar, that they established an institution of badly-disguised slavery. It is not Russia that is regularly provoking NATO members, it is Turkey doing this to Greece and Cyprus. The West forgives them all abominations.
Four centuries ago, the West did everything to undermine Byzantium, and they achieved their goal. Half a century later, the Ottoman hordes stood under the gates of Vienna. Russian roulette is a favorite game of the West.
Alexander Maistrovoy is the author of Agony of Hercules or a Farewell to Democracy (Notes of a Stranger), published recently by Xlibris and available at Amazon and Barnes & Noble.
mortimer says
Russia’s Muslim population is enormous, but most of them are irreligious … fortunately! If they all got interested in jihad, Russia would have dozens of jihad attacks every day.
Russia has suspended many human rights. Russia is an ideal place for the development of protocols to deprogram Muslims right out of Islam. I term this ‘ABSOLUTE DEPROGRAMMING’.
Russia should develop, implement and study the effectiveness of DEPROGRAMMING MUSLIMS … ABSOLUTELY.
Alien Republican says
Russia should this and that. If anything than we should start with ourselves and starting to worry about muslim infiltration in schools and administrations all over the West. Can’t believe that Trump get grilled over business relations in Russia while the MB has been taking a hold in the US adminstration.
J D S says
The truth hurts….an old saying…but the truth will set you free…Another old saying.
The U.S. needs to face the truth and immediately! Quit witch hunting Russia and start looking at “the enemy next door, the MB.
Take a close look at what’s happening in Europe Does anybody not know that muslim infiltration of all kinds in all places is not taking place.
People we must get on the backs of our elected officials and make them understand that what is happening in Europe can and will happen here in the U.S. if we continue our way of thinking “Its over there” it’s not just over there…that’s what the muslims want you to believe.
Now we should start in the mid east by cutting ties with any country that has ties to the MB and further acknowledge that there are many organizations here ,muslim and otherwise, who have other than our interest as their goal.
We may think that contacting our elected officials is useless and that’s what our enemies want us to think and if we don’t then whose fault is it?
We need to let them at least know that WE are concerned and WE want them to be concerned also.
Peggy says
Absolutely. Why is the west so obsessed with Russia when Russia is not threatening us?
Why don’t we clean up our own countries and start protecting our own citizens before we point fingers at Russia?
One would get the idea that it’s Russians who are blowing us up in the streets and raping our children if one listened to all the propaganda coming out of the US and UK about Russia.
People, think for yourselves and open your eyes and see who is our enemy before we all start praying to allah.
gravenimage says
Actually, Mortimer, Jihad terror attacks are a terrible threat in Russia.
RichardL says
thanks for the article. I like it.
The US and Russia will unite against islam. If China joins, islam has a problem. I can see Trump staring a conversation with both countries about this topic. Europe will go through a civil war and be a shining example for these countries how not to deal with islam.
Bxgirl says
I agree. We have an opportunity and could definitely allied against Islam.
Thomas Kimball says
Their is probably quite a bit of sharing of intel already,I can think of a couple of occasions that Russia has fed us information on possible attacks!
Carolyne says
One such being the Tsarniev brothers of Boston Marathon bombing fame. (I’m not sure how the name is spelled.) The FBI was warned by Russia that they planned a bombing, but even then, it appears the FBI was too busy plotting against our government to take any action.
gravenimage says
Unfortunately, Richard, Russia is not consistently standing against Islam. Putin is enabling a nuclear Iran, has allowed Chechnya under Kadyrov to become a Shari’ah state, and opened a mega-Mosque in Moscow beside Erdogan and Abbas.
Peggy says
If only that were true. Russia has always wanted to work with the US and fight ISIS but somebody forgot to explain that to Trump.
I hope and pray that Trump comes to his senses and instead of firing on Russian targets in Syria he extends a had instead.
Enthuoli says
There’s even a Belgian political party which runs for cities election : the Islam Party
See http://www.brusselstimes.com/belgium/politics/10917/miller-mr-fears-the-islamic-party-will-be-popular-and-wants-to-ban-it
“Redouane Ahrouch, one of the Islamic party’s co-founders, said his party wanted to establish an Islamic State and introduce the Islamic charter in Belgium.”
Fred H says
But it is Russia that is murdering on the streets of Britain and normalizing the use of weapons of mass destruction there and in Syria. It is Russia, a kleptocracy led by a dictator, that is busy creating an insane doomsday weapon, the Kanyon underwater drone. It is not the West’s fault that Putin is a psychopath who has now completely lost it, nor is it written in stone anywhere that the West cannot be subject to lethal threats from multiple directions simultaneously.
gravenimage says
True–Russia is *hardly* the greatest threat we face, but that does not mean Russia is benign.
Peggy says
There is absolutely no evidence that Putin had anything to do with Skripal’s poisoning.
Also, I think we all know that those Syrian chemical attacks were staged in order to get Us to fire on Syrian targets. Are you so ready to fall for these trick?
Wow, a chemical attack where all you have to do is pour water over some children and everything goes back to normal. No protective gear needed to be used either. What sort of a chemical would be used only to irritate not to kill?
Assad has no reason to provoke US and make himself a target when he’s winning. So Russia supporting him makes Putin bad? In my book Putin is doing a great job protecting Assad who is the best non Muslims can hope for.
All world leaders are bad in various degrees but Russia is supporting the best of the bad bunch so that gets them a pass.
gravenimage says
Peggy, Putin did not bother to even deny that Russia was responsible for the poisoning. And this is *hardly* the only case–many critics of Putin have been poisoned, often with materials like plutonium that are unavailable to the average person.
Peggy says
Putin has denied it and asked several times to see any evidence. Nothing yet.
If Putin wanted someone dead, they would be dead and the Skripals are fine. People helping them straight after the incident weren’t protected in any way and nobody died.
Does that sound like an attack that Russia would make?
Again, to this day there is no evidence. All May said is that it was highly likely.
When that happened not even a couple hours later Russia was proclaimed the villain. Before any investigation even took place.
I think something stinks to high heaven here. Not saying Russia isn’t capable and never did something like this but this time it’s not convincing.
They are all crooked and they all kill their own citizens. Just ask Killary.
Richard says
” It is not the West’s fault that Putin is a psychopath who has now completely lost it, ”
Insofar as this is true (which it isn’t) it is also true that it IS the West’s fault.
In the early 2000’s Putin’s agenda was to join with the West – but he was rejected and instead the West was busy putting provocative anti-missile systems into countries on Russia’s borders that had previously been within the Russian sphere of influence.
gravenimage says
Uh huh. Is the mean old West responsible for Jihad, as well?
Peggy says
To a degree yes. Who flooded the west with them? Who armed and trained them?
Richard says
“But it is Russia that is murdering on the streets of Britain and normalizing the use of weapons of mass destruction there”
Err no – no-one died in Salisbury and there are now serious doubts about the British story – but then it has conveniently slipped out of the news since the false flag attack in Damascus.
Wellington says
I agree that the worst religion ever created by man, Islam, is definitely more of a threat to the West than Russia is but Russia is bad enough. Putin is a killer and corrupt as all hell. He has also stupidly done very little to diversify the Russian economy. As usual, the Russians don’t “get” freedom and this helps to explain in part why they look upon NATO, the greatest military alliance in history for the protection and promotion of freedom (and yes, Turkey under Erdogan in NATO is a farce), as an enemy. Let us not forget that both Bush 41 and Clinton said that Russia coming into NATO eventually was feasible, even desirable.
But, with the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991, Russia acted as though the Cold War was a draw (especially since Putin came into power in 2000). No it wasn’t. Russia lost the Cold War and America won and yet America took no territory, loaned Russia billions in the Nineties that were wasted and when sham capitalism rather than real capitalism enriched a few in Russia and no one else, Russians blamed capitalism and America for this. Then there is Russia meddling in one nation after another. It’s clear that Putin hacked into the entire Estonian cyber network and his taking of the Crimea violated every norm of international law (yes, I know the Crimea was Russian from the late 18th century to the 1950’s when it was given to Ukraine but this does not justify what Putin did there and his annexation of it). No wonder so many Eastern European peoples jumped at the chance of joining NATO. It was their best shot at maximum protection from, you guessed it, Russia.
Look, I have written before at JW that I respect the Russians for their courage and their great artistic and intellectual heritage. But they’re dismal on the freedom front and see enemies most everywhere. Time and time again through the centuries, certainly under Putin, those who lead Russia fulfill what George Kennan, American adviser to many Presidents, fluent in Russian (and many other languages) and briefly US Ambassador to the Soviet Union, observed about them, to wit, that they look upon their neighbors as vassals or enemies. True under the Czars, true under the First Secretaries and now true under Putin. The Russians are rather like the so-called Palestinians in this respect: They rarely miss an opportunity to miss an opportunity. I wish this were otherwise, and I personally want Russo-American relations to be as good as possible, but Russia has acted under Putin in such a fashion that it is quite understandable and defensible that many peoples, not just the Americans (hey, try asking Poles, Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Ukrainians, Czechs, Georgians, et al. about the Russians), are rightly suspicious of Putin and the Russian state. Damn shame this is the case because in the fight against what Islam intends for us all a Russo-Sino-American alliance would be more than a match against the over fifty pathetic majority-Muslim nations on earth. And I will close here by noting that I don’t think America has been guiltless since the fall of the Soviet Union, but I place a very large majority of the blame on Russia for squandering so many opportunities since 1991 and becoming the essentially authoritarian, corrupt and paranoid state it is today.
Mark Swan says
Yes Wellington I agree—
I would certainly add this that the Russian people are among the best on earth, they deserve to be
wanted, needed, respected, and appreciated as the great people they truly are.
We do not have to see the autocratic rule they are subjugated under as representative of the Russian
will—our attitude towards Russia should be aimed at supporting hope in its people.
When they thought President Trump would change the way America looked at Russia and help it
be seen in a positive light, the Russian people were very optimistic—that is why this wedge that
has been driven between them and America by those in this country who could not stand to see
President Trump make things work with Russia, is so wrong and shameful.
If they were to perceive such a fundamental acknowledgement of their value—they would reciprocate—President Putin would be obliged to participate by his own people who are the sole reason for his office.
Peggy says
I agree that if Trump wanted to work with Putin he would be ready to do just that.
So then why is Trump trying to start a war with him?
Both countries have the same enemy.
Mark Swan says
The powers that be in Washington are thick as thieves—they are the established
ones, who regardless of who we elect they remain.
Wrong thinking is nothing new there.
The fact that we still have a potential for Thermal Nuclear War is a perfect example
of those serious problems which the complacent world had better solve.
President Trump has a lot on His plate—let us hope He is a big eater, or only accepts
portions he can handle.
TassieR says
Oh, really? The Soviet Union did everything possible and impossible to supply Muslim terrorists with arms, instructors, money and propaganda, while Putin was among the Dresden’s professional StaSi/KGB sponsors of terrorism then. Now he just continues the old sponsorship via the new Iranian allies. As for the comments like “Russia never…” or “Russia always…” – in this case they are no more justified than, say, efforts to present Murder Inc’s rants as “America wants…” or “America insists…” Putin isn’t Russia, whatever fake elections he may be staging decade after decade with his criminal cronies (recently the Chechen all-Sharia region even proposed to elect him for life, voting nearly 100% “For”)… I agree with your “Both countries have the same enemy” but I think that the name of this enemy is Putin – using both his Sharia crowd and criminal gangs.
gravenimage says
Excellent analysis, Wellington.
Richard says
“Nineties that were wasted and when sham capitalism rather than real capitalism enriched a few in Russia and no one else, Russians blamed capitalism and America for this. ”
And quite rightly too.
“many peoples, not just the Americans (hey, try asking Poles, Estonians, Latvians, Lithuanians, Ukrainians, Czechs, Georgians, et al. about the Russians), ”
I know quite a few of them – and they don’t give the answer you expect.
The trouble is the the west cosied up to paranoid anti-Russians during the cold war and forgot that they should not be taking sides in a dispute that goes back to the Baltic crusades (unprovoked attacks on Russia that established the Polish and Lithuanian empires).
Try asking Serbs, Bulgarians and Romanians, who were liberated from Islam by Russia and you will also get a positive answer.
Of course Britain and France did their best to undermine this process as Mark Twain noted in Innocents Abroad:
“It is soothing to the heart to abuse England and France for interposing to save the Ottoman Empire from the destruction it has so richly deserved for a thousand years. It hurts my vanity to see these pagans refuse to eat of food that has been cooked for us; or to eat from a dish we have eaten from; or to drink from a goatskin which we have polluted with our Christian lips, except by filtering the water through a rag which they put over the mouth of it or through a sponge! I never disliked a Chinaman as I do these degraded Turks and Arabs, and when Russia is ready to war with them again, I hope England and France will not find it good breeding or good judgment to interfere. ”
If Britain and France had let Russia get on with it we might have been freed from the Islamic problem by now – but then when it comes to Islam the west never misses an opportunity to miss an opportunity.
If the Russians are suspicious of the west it is not a surprise si8nce we have invaded them 4 times in the last 200 or so years.
Peggy says
Couldn’t agree with you more.
Some people just don’t know history or know a little and think they know it all.
Russia has been demonized so much in the last century that everything is blamed on them. Russians had to endure Communism which was imposed on them. Then they took the blame for Stalin who wasn’t Russian.
Now that they want to shake the shackles of Communism, go back to their religion and have a good relationship with the west they are used as scapegoats by the globalists again to create chaos in the world.
I’ve noticed through talking to people from various parts of Eastern Europe that the only people who keep repeating the same rubbish that Serbia started four wars in the 90s and deserved to be bombed are Croatians (Hitler’s former bootlicker), Bosnian Muslims and Albanians who are also predominantly Muslim.
As soon as I read this I know that I am reading something written by someone from one of the groups I mentioned, seeing how nobody else ever has expressed themselves in this way.
These groups have a tremendous hatred for Serbs and by extension for Russians. They will try really hard to justify Serbia being bombed on behalf of the Muslims.
Unfortunately Russian hysteria being such in the west it’s quite easy to believe them.
The west has created more misery and deaths since WW2 than anyone else and supported more Muslims than anyone else. We simply should hang our heads in shame because we are the last people who can point a finger at anyone for the misery this world finds itself in.
Everyone needs allies and if the west wants to ally itself with Islam then they can’t begrudge Russia trying to find allies wherever they can.
Putin has tried to extend a hand of friendship. I’ve heard his speeches and Trump even entertained the idea for a while until he was dragged into the same swamp he said he wanted to drag.
gravenimage says
So, Richard–you think that the West is responsible for Russia’s lack of freedom? How does that work?
In fact, Russian apologists here like Christianblood and St. Manuel II Palaiologos regulary sneer at the very concept of freedom, considering it to be a Western perversion.
underbed cat says
Its’ strange, when I think of an enemy bent on my destruction, I do not think first Putin….and stranger yet that he has is the same enemy, who has shown it’s destructiveness in Russia. In Russia with the same methods of stabbing attacks, sometimes beheading, sometimes mass shooting at businesses, fires and protests, sometimes schools, using trucks or cars to cause mayhem,and bombings and the United States in NYC on 9/11, Oklahoma, Boston, Orlando,Michigan, Minnesota, Florida, California, Nevada, Sweden, Malaysia, India, Germany, Belgium, U.K North Africa, and has destroyed many parts of the middle east Syria, Iran and now entering Norway and Iceland and Canada.some people say it is a country…..the strange thing is they all have the same motivations, claim to be peaceful, claim to be victims and they land on your shores they all carry the Quran.
gravenimage says
Yes–Russia is under threat from the Jihad just as the West and the rest of the world is.
Peggy says
So then why do you see Russia as a threat to us? I see you agreed with Wellington on how horrible Russia is just before. How is Russia a threat to us? When have they attacked us?
I really can’t see what you see.
Can you please enlighten me? Why are we always talking about Russia as a villain when we are attacked by someone else? Why do we give that subject any of our time.
I don’t care how Russia wants to conduct their business in their own country. That’s for Russians to decide. I only care about a danger to me and to innocent people around the world who are being slaughtered by our common enemy.
gravenimage says
Peggy, there is nothing inconsistent here. Russia *is* under threat from Islam–there have been a series of horrific Jihad terror attacks, especially in the Russian capital.
But Russia is also enabling Islam in many ways–as I have noted elsewhere on this thread, especially by enabling a nuclear Iran.
It is not inconsistent to feel sympathy and conern over Russia’s being at risk, while at the same time considering a nuclear Iran and a Shari’ah Chechnya to be bad things.
Putin’s having people murdered–including in the West–is not something I’m in favor of, either.
Still, Russia is *far* from the biggest threat the West faces today. I wish we were allies against Islam.
Peggy says
Putin’s having people murdered–including in the West–is not something I’m in favor of, either.
Still, Russia is *far* from the biggest threat the West faces today. I wish we were allies against Islam.
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I too wish we worked with Russia instead of bickering among ourselves. Our true enemies only benefit from that.
That’s why I don’t understand why we need to constantly keep saying Russia bad etc when this only serves to take our focus away from our real enemies.
Question, who has Russia had murdered in the west?
gravenimage says
Several jounalists and former spies, certainly. I don’t actually consider this a good thing.
Peggy says
gravenimage says
Apr 18, 2018 at 12:57 am
Several jounalists and former spies, certainly. I don’t actually consider this a good thing.
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If you’re talking about the Skripals then I disagree.
I have no doubt that Russia has ordered some killings but how is that a new thing? It’s horrible but not new.
How many people do you think the CIA has murdered including their own?
Why are we vilifying one country for something our own are doing as well? If they are not attacking us why even discuss it? It just means that we are all the same in that respect and should not point fingers.
As far as Russia supporting Iran. The US supports the Saudis and are the ones who planned and executed the attack on 9/11. So if west and east are equally bad and have equally bad partners what right do we have to condemn anyone if we are not prepared to condemn all?
US supported the Taliban when Russia was fighting them. Who do you think was doing the right thing then?
I really don’t feel the need to badmouth Russia who has been put under sanctions and been attacked politically and economically by the west and then condemned for not trading in a free market. They have to find trading partners and allies just like anyone else, so if the west is not accepting them they will turn to where they are welcome.
Bottom line, the west is just as much a bully as the east and hypocritical too.
Lawrence says
I think it’s more complex. Putin is hated and feared for the wrong reasons, he himself actively props up and arms jihadist regimes, Iran and Syria (Assad is a tyrant allied with Hezbollah). The old USSR armed and directed the strategy of Arab Muslim states in their wars against Israel in ’67 and ’73. In other words, Russia is a lot like America and Europe. Arming the Jihad.
mummymovie says
Though -to agree with the tone of this article- I do feel the demonization is very excessive, I must agree with Lawrence. The fact that Russia is at this point closely aligned with the Iranian regime/Hezbollah/Houthis, etc. in a business and strategic capacity, makes it very difficult for me to buy into the whole Putin-as-Good Guy theory. Putin is ex-KGB, and perhaps carries a chip on his shoulder about the downfall of the Soviet Union, which is almost universally blamed on the West in general, and America in particular.
Perhaps Trump was trying to mend relations and prevent another cold war from developing, or perhaps he was just urinated on by a hooker in Moscow- we may never know. But either way, the Left in this country (which I used to consider myself a part of) has insisted on villainizing, and has instigated numerous provocations with, Russia for purely political purposes, and this is very dangerous and stupid, whether there is any real possibility of ever being allies in a true sense again, or not.
And when you read here about Anitifa and Black Lives Matter (and let’s just go ahead and include America’s new, fake “feminists” and the “Anti-Trump Resistance”, shall we?) having been co-opted by Muslim Brotherhood/CAIR (Hamas),etc. and these other groups such as the OIC, for instance (they are very adept at this), and their having made tremendous inroads into the American media, and political/business arenas, it really all hits you like a ton of bricks; just how big of a mess we are in, and how this whole civilization jihad all seemed to creep up on us so fast. The worst is yet to come, it would seem.
Excellent article. I’m very glad to see Alex Maistrovoy submitting his writings to Jihad-Watch now. I have been following his work for quite awhile, and along with Giulio Meotti, Leo Hohmann, and the writers here at JW, I think he is among the brightest in this space.
Indiana Tom says
Assad will look great compared to the alternative.
Peggy says
I don’t say that Assad is a good guy but the non Muslims want him in charge over there and they are the ones I care about and will support anyone they support.
If he happens to be the best choice for them who are we to tell them they can’t have him?
We don’t have to live with the alternative, they do.
gravenimage says
Yes–as awful as he is, he is the least bad faction in the region.
Peggy says
Kind of like what we have. A choice between bad, bad and worse.
I am so disappointed in politicians we have here. Most are working against us and the ones who aren’t are still weak.
Peggy says
The USSR was not always ruled by Russians. We forget that USSR was made up of a lot of other people too and the worst Stalin wasn’t even Russian.
Tjhawk says
In a generation, our priorities flipped from individual civic responsibility to identity group victimhood. From e plurbus unum to multicultural diversity, with each identity group being assigned a place on an oppression hierarchy. From life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness to death, submission, and misery.
If things get miserable enough, there could be a very nasty pushback from the West unless they are prevented from pushing by islamoleftist governments. Sometime in the next generation or so, there will be some real ugliness one way or the other.
I still have confidence in the brilliance of free men over the coercion of slaves, but free men had better start tempering their steel.
mummymovie says
Good post.
CogitoErgoSum says
Those who think Islamophobia is bad also think that Russophobia is good. Professor Stephen Cohen in this video gives an intelligent and rational analysis of Russia and Putin’s changing role in the world today and why it is important that Russia be an our ally in stopping Jihad.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kH5ngJ849CA
Wellington says
CES: Cohen is a far leftist who writes for that Marxist rag, The Nation. He was so enthralled with Gorbachev (and missed the greatness of Reagan completely) and after the fall of the USSR in 1991 blamed America for the continuance of the Cold War. He is a rank apologist for many things Russian (though not in every respect because the few criticisms he issued about Russia still got him banned from going there for a while, which says a lot about the extent of freedom in a country that has never known freedom).
I put zero trust in Cohen. I think he’s a well educated fool.
There are many such people at American universities. Cohen is at Princeton. Fitting.
Wellington says
P.S. I know from an impeccable source that Alexander Solzhenitsyn, who died ten years ago, had nothing but contempt for Cohen. Cohen was exactly the kind of academic Solzhenitsyn had in mind when he gave that earth-shattering commencement address at Harvard back in 1978, for which address, by daring to criticize the leftist academic establishment, he was thereafter smeared with all kinds of lies, including the mendacity that he was anti-Semitic.
Please, CES, be careful when supporting someone like Cohen. Very careful.
CogitoErgoSum says
Thanks, Wellington. True, I am not very familiar with all of Cohen’s background. In fact, this is the first time I have paid any attention to him. But what he is saying in this particular video makes sense to me. Also, as Cohen notes in the video, we shouldn’t dismiss everything someone says just because we have placed him into a certain category. The value of an idea should be our main focus. But I will take note of your warning. BTW, did you disagree with anything he said in the video?
Wellington says
CES: Yes, much. For instance, Cohen thinks we’re in a new and even more dangerous Cold War with Russia and that it’s around 80% our fault. Kick-America-First again thinking, very typical of the Left.
gravenimage says
Thanks.
dreggsofhumanity says
Putin isn’t such an angel. He just sold battle helicopters to Pakistan a country known to produce huge numbers of jihadis.
CogitoErgoSum says
Is it possible that Pakistan would produce even more jihadis (with nuclear weapons) if it were to go down the same path as Iraq and Syria? The U.S. has been paying jizya to Pakistan for years; perhaps now it’s time for the Russians to pay their share.
gravenimage says
Yes–both Pakistan and Turkey are moving into Russia’s sphere.
Peggy says
Everyone sells everything to all.
You don’t think that US has sold weapons to their own enemy? How many weapons and vehicles has ISIS got from the west so far?
They are all dirty it’s just that we don’t get to hear as much about our own or choose not to believe it.
gravenimage says
Actually, the US under Trump is distancing itself from Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, and the “Palestinians”. I actually consider that a good thing.
Peggy says
Yes, that is a great thing but who wants Assad removed? By going after him Trump is actually doing their bidding.
A great way to show he’s distancing himself.
He said he was pulling out of Syria only a couple of days before he bombed them.
Is he confused and doesn’t know what to do?
CogitoErgoSum says
No trance suspenders you say? Well, as Monty Python would say, “And now for something totally different.”
CAUTION: You too may feel like putting a gun to your head after watching this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=epxqV5CRfTc
(I know, but that guy named Relic posts some stuff I don’t get either.)
Indiana Tom says
Nevertheless, the US is obsessed with hunting Russian “witches.” I am not hung up on Russia and watching Different Russia channel they seem about like Americans. Russia had its interests and so do we.
As Kissinger said,” we do not have friends, we have interests.”
Indiana Tom says
I just never got into the Deer Hunter.
CogitoErgoSum says
The Russian Roulette scene completely pulled me in. The trick is to know that when you think your luck has run out, to point the gun at your opponent’s head when you pull the trigger.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aCW9NsrV6VM
Manos says
What about the west support for the mohajadine in the 80’s and 90’s in Afghanistan against the Soviet Army? What about the west support for Bosnian Muslim and Kosovo Muslims to kill Serbs and the occupation of Kosovo? What about UK and US support for Turkey to attack, bomb and invade Northen Cyprus, and the continued occupation of Cyprus as well as current day preventing Greek Cypriots exploring its Gas, oil reserves by ErDogans Turkey, as well as the constant violation of Greek air and Naval space by Evil Islamic Turkey?
Wellington says
American support for certain elements in Afghanistan was a chapter in the Cold War whereby the USSR and US would often fight each other through proxies. Nothing new here. The enemy of my enemy is my friend (best example ever of this: aligning with Stalin against Hitler in WWII). The Soviet invasion of Afghanistan in December of 1979 was yet another attempt by the USSR to extend its influence and indicative of the centuries–long Russian quest to get closer and closer to warm-water ports. America had to counter such naked aggression. That America did so with Muslim groups is unfortunate but you fight the war du jour with what you can and the war at that time was the Cold War.
As far as the break-up of Yugoslavia is concerned, every side in the fighting had blood on its hands and America under Bush 41 and then Clinton said very publicly for years as Yugoslavia was breaking apart that this was a European problem and Europe had to fix it. Well, Europe didn’t fix it and there were four wars in eight years (1991-1999) and killings all around and with no end in sight. One European nation after another, especially ones close to the fighting like Italy, Hungary and Austria, were profoundly concerned about the instability and in particular displaced populations spilling over their borders. Finally, after much European begging, in 1999 America intervened and bombed Belgrade. This sent a signal to everyone that overt war had to end and it did. Thereafter, there was still fighting and killings but the general instability that had existed for eight years ended. The American bombing accomplished this for which America got zero credit (America was blamed for years for not intervening and then blamed when it did; thus is the fate often times of the great power in any age). UN troops in the broken up Yugoslavia had proven useless and so did Russian troops and so the great power intervened to settle things down, which occurred. Now, I’m sorry Serbia was chosen as the fall guy but someone had to serve this role and it could be argued that, in the long run, many lives were saved as some stability was restored and outright war ceased. I think America definitely made a mistake in recognizing an independent Kosovo and I said so at the time and still do.
Respecting Cyprus, remember that it was the military junta ruling in Greece that started things in Cyprus in July of 1974 with a planned coup d’etat there. A very secular Turkey at that time, much more then a trustworthy ally and a foil against Russia, responded with its own military. The whole matter was a mess and the mess has been building in the 1960’s and early 70’s because Cyprus was inhabited by both Greeks and Turks. I know of no direct support for Turkey by the US or UK in this endeavor (other than perhaps noting the Greek military junta had started things, which it did) and, indeed, to this day neither the US or UK recognizes the Turkish Cypriot Republic on the northern part of the island. Since both Greece and Turkey were in NATO, America and Britain were chagrined that they went at each other (as they almost did on previous occasions) but I don’t know what America and the UK could have done to prevent the Cypriot imbroglio in the first place.
Peggy says
“Well, Europe didn’t fix it and there were four wars in eight years (1991-1999) and killings all around and with no end in sight”
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There we not four wars. There was only one civil war where states seceded from Yugoslavia. Yugoslavia or Serbia now didn’t want anyone to secede but since they did they were obliged to help their own people in those areas who were fighting on their own against the new regime. When the old Nazi symbols started to appear in Croatia Serbs were naturally nervous and wanted to keep their own land on which they were for hundreds of years. Does anyone remember a death camp called Jasenovac in WW2 and a concentration camp just for children run by nuns there? Serbs had to fight when it started to look like Ustasha (Croatian Nazis) were making a comeback. You seem to conveniently leave that out.
Then we have Bosnia where Muslims wanted to create an Islamic Bosnia. The very first person there killed was a Serb who was at a wedding. Seeing how Bosnian Muslims were allies of Croatians and also Hitler’s bootlickers how do you think Serbian population there felt? Were they supposed to just accept the division and allow themselves to be ruled by Muslims? During that part of the war even Croatians in some areas were allied with Serbs against Muslims. Now the Croatians themselves are leaving some parts of Bosnia because of intimidation.
Then came the Albanians in Kosovo with their brand of terror against anyone not Albanian. Policemen were being killed there and Serbs terrorized. Children were being escorted to schools because of their terror. They knew that they could count of Clinton just like the Muslims from Bosnia could and went all the way.
Kosovo was always Serbian. There is absolutely no proof of Albanian existence there in any majority. Serbian monasteries and churches are centuries old and one is even on the UNESCO list.
It seems everyone wanted to secede and Serbs just had to accept being ruled by their former enemies even though they were on their ancestral land and it was in the constitution that any secession had to be agreed by the Serbs as well.
I have read many articles from various people who know the history and legalities of the situation over the years. I have spoken to many people from all sides and checked up on the validity of their information. It seems to me that Russia’s influence in Europe or more precisely the Balkans had to be eliminated and the only people standing in the way were the Serbs so they too had to pay the price.
It’s called guilt by association.
So please, spare me the four wars rubbish. It was a civil war of break up of a country.
You are free to check what I said if you wish. I have.
Also either you are related to people from those backgrounds because they are the only ones who say four wars or have taken their version of events (which are also Clinton’s) as the only truth.
Peggy says
Serbs had to fight when it started to look like
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Whoops, it should be Serbs had to fight when it started as it looked like
peter says
Lets give credit where it belongs .When all the western countries were adopting a compromising attitude towards Hitler only Russia represented the bulwark of resistance against Nazism .Stalin lost nearlyo 350 000 soldiers in the Berlin attack alone .Russia has sacrified much more for the freedom which the west enjoys than any muslim nation in the world . No doubt Putin is not perfect but so are many western leaders including some of the US presidents Some of them are down right traitors including May and Merkle who are ready to sell the country for the sake of retaining power and winning the election .I think we all in the west benefit a great deal if we can join hands with Russia in fighting Islam as we did in the second world aganst Nazism and facsism . The greatest to western democracies does not come from Russia but from Isam and it’s allies in the west.
gravenimage says
Not so. In fact, while Britain stood against Hitler Stalin had a pact with the Nazis.
Peggy says
For only a second.
Don’t forget Soviet Union lost 20 million people in WW2 fighting the Nazis. It was Soviet Union who liberated Auschwitz.
It was the Soviets who made the most difference in Europe. US achieved a lot in the Pacific but without Soviets Europe was in a lot of trouble.
Matthieu Baudin says
“… It was not Moscow, it was Tehran and Hezbollah that created a Shia network in Germany with a center in Hamburg and “sleeper cells” in North Rhine-Westphalia…”
It would be helpful if the current Kremlin leadership weren’t so cosy in their relationship with the Islamic Republic of Iran, Hezbollah and the Assad family circle. Poland has done well to defend itself with the latest early response technology – they understand the unreliability of Russian assurances, that it is an old culture of low trust.
The greatness of Russia is to be found in it’s ordinary people, it’s inventiveness and technical excellence in a range of areas. But how a nation so rich in natural resources, without significant population pressures or serious external military threats; has let it’s economy stagnate to such a woeful extent, has allowed the illicit drug trade to flourish and has watched it’s regional youth abandon their lands and villages in droves – this is a mystery. Everyone, save the Jihadi Supremacists and a few other identities, would like this nation of great people to pick themselves up and meet the future.
gravenimage says
NBot really a mystery. Russia has never really adoped freedom, inlcuding free trade. Better now than it was under the Soviet heel, though.
Peggy says
Sorry I have to add to this. Not for the lack of trying.
Russia is trying to trade around the world but all the sanctions put on it all the time isn’t helping.
EU is working as a block to put sanctions on Russia so how do you think they can trade like other countries?
That is precisely why Russia is looking for trade partners and allies elsewhere. I can’t blame Russia.
So the US can buddy up to Saudis and the Taliban in Afghanistan, have Pakistan as an ally (this all happened) but Russia isn’t allowed to look for trading partners and allies in the same region.
People in glass houses.
Still, why do we waste so much time on how the Russians live. They are not threatening anyone in the west. Islam is so why waste our time chastising Russia? Let’s worry about our real enemy and that includes Saudis who btw US is on terms with.
dumbledoresarmy says
The USA needs to disentangle itself from its entanglements with assorted Sunni Muslim entities. Cut off Pakistan, Turkey (kick Turkey out of NATO), the House of Saud, the lot. Cut the bastards off, stop giving them ‘aid’, stop doing their bidding, stop being fooled by the goodcop/ badcop game that both sides of the Ummah play to perfection.
And Russia needs to STOP aiding and abetting and protecting Shiite Islamic Iran, and any other Islamic entities that *it* is involved with.
Iran intends and openly threatens to attack and annihilate *Israel*. (BTW, Syria is ROTTEN with a vicious, bizarre, nazi-style antisemitism that infects – alas – the Christians and the Alawites just as much as the Mohammedans; there are no Jews left in Syria because they were murdered, attacked, persecuted, and driven out. What ordinary government-approved Syrian textbooks say about Jews – Jews qua Jews, Jews always and anywhere – is simply… bizarre. Insane. Horrible. So let us not pretend that ‘Syrians’ are lovely innocent snow-white lambs).
So far as I can see Russia – historically *poisoned* and *crippled* by Jew-hatred, let us bear in mind that it was *Russians* who, plagiarising a *French* text that was not in fact about Jews at all!, created the hideous ‘Protocols of the Elders of Zion, which are approvingly cited by Muslims such as those of Hamas – is **assisting Iran to carry out genocide upon half of the world’s Jews**. Because that is what it will boil down to, if Iran drops a series of nukes on Israel.
Or is *Russia* prepared to nuke Israel herself, if Israel tries to to neutralise Iran’s nukes??
Neither Infidel power should blame the other for Jihad, because Jihad had been going on for a good few centuries before *either* Russia – considered as a nation – OR America even came into existence!
But neither – here and now; the past is over and done with, if the follies and sins of *previous* generations are to be held against those who were not even born when such follies and / or sins were committed, who could stand? – has or should have ANY business assisting Muslims to wage jihad against those who are not Muslims. Because now we know, or should know, that Infidels should stay away from alliances with Muslims, especially alliances that cause harm to fellow-infidels.
If Russia continues to protect Iran, that is likely to cause enormous harm to tiny non-Muslim Israel. Does Russia , do Russians, still HATE jews, qua jews, so much, that they are prepared to arm and run interference for Islamic Iran, right up to the point where the thermonukes are dropped on Haifa, Jaffa, Jerusalem? Will Russia attack Israel if Israel tries to destroy Iran’s nuke sites? Does RUSSIA want to go down in history as the nation – oh, such heroism, such courage, such splendour, such a grand display of a bully mind – that finished the job Hitler set out to do, and KILL, all at once, an entire Jewish nation, and reduce Israel to glass?
Peggy says
I don’t think that Russia hates Jews. Wasn’t it the USSR who liberated Auschwitz?
Are Jews persecuted in Russia or in France, UK and other western European countries?
Who was it that eliminated the Shah of Iran and put in an Islamic Jew hating lot in power? Russia? Who removed Saddam and provided fertile ground for Islamists? Russia?
Who removed Gadaffi and enabled millions of “refugees” to flood into Europe, the US, Canada and Australia threatening us? Gadaffi even said it would happen.
If you are going to go down this road then you have to say that the whole world hates Jews because the west supports Wahabbi Saudis who want nothing more than to kill all Jews.
This is a dirty business of politics where only interests play any importance.
Everyone wants control of the Middle East and will align themselves with anyone who is willing to go along.
Do you really believe that if US and their allies the Saudis win that Jews are going to be accepted and not threatened any more? I don’t.
AS you can see we seem to love Muslims more than Jews since we are only protecting the Muslims in our countries. How ready are we to protect the Jews over then then? It’s a good thing Israel is very capable of protecting itself.
gravenimage says
Actually, Russia has been quite antisemitic, during the Tsarist period and the Soviet period. I was involved with helping some of the “Refuseniks” in the 1980s who were forbidden to leave for Israel or to continue working in the USSR. They essentially wound up homeless and reliant on the charity of Jews who were not actively trying to immigrate to Israel.
From what I’ve heard, things have been less bad since the fall of the Soviet Union, but you still find incidents like the one at “Defenders of the Fatherland Day” tribute to war veterans in 2006, where according to the newspaper Kommersant, marchers flourished signs with messages including “Kikes! Stop drinking Russian blood!”.
Of course, as bad as antisemitism has been in Russia, in recent years it is nothing like the Muslim world.
Peggy says
I have no doubt that there is antisemetism in Russia. Sadly it’s present all over the world and growing especially in Europe now since all the vermin invaded.
What I mean is that hatred of Jews in Russia is probably at the level it is in other countries so I don’t believe that Russia supporting Iran is because of that.
If hatred for the Jews was the reason to support anyone in the Middle East then we could say the same thing about the west as the west has not only supported but trained ISIS over there and Jews can’t find a worse enemy than them. So I don’t think that support of lack of for Jews has anything to do with the politics being played out over there.
It’s unfortunate because so many bad moves have been made over the last century which have impacted on the Jews and other non Muslims there.
gravenimage says
I don’t believe Russia is supporting Iran specifidally due to antisemitism, either, Peggy–but it is still not a good thing.
Allan Mandrowski says
The mainstream West has been obsessed for decades now with Russia and their obsession has them blind for the destruction occurring from within. Not because of Russia, but because of Islam who hates anything the West stands for.
Peggy says
gravenimage says
Apr 18, 2018 at 10:07 pm
I don’t believe Russia is supporting Iran specifidally due to antisemitism, either, Peggy–but it is still not a good thing.
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No it’s not. Antisemitism is not warranted at all whereas Islam should be hated and rejected but it seems that we live in an upside down world and only a few of us are trying to flip it back.
After WW2 you would think that people would realize the injustice and not repeat it.
Do you think that Islam has been so successful in promoting this hatred that so many have bought into it or is it too simplistic of an answer? I do understand the hatred coming from the Muslims but I just can’t wrap my brain around the western countries becoming so complacent in mistreatment of them.
Jews are having to flee to Israel from some countries in Europe. It seems that both the East and West have come to an agreement on this.
I sort of got off the topic a little there, sorry.
As much as antisematism exists, I don’t think it plays a role in who has who as a partner in the ME. It’s more about the oil and control.