Is this a defining moment?
I’ve lived in London for ten years now, and I had never heard of Speakers’ Corner upon my arrival. I knew nothing of its history and relevance, both past and present, until one Sunday I was cycling through and noticed the crowds and the speakers. One older lady on a small stepladder appealed to me, and I listened for a short time while she spoke of her ideas about politics and social issues. There were a couple of prophets of doom, bedraggled and lonely old men carrying placards telling us that the end of the world was nigh. There were a variety of other speakers, all talking about their own passionate subjects. I passed a Muslim who was talking to a crowd of people, and I foolishly got into a debate with him. I forget what we were talking about, but he ended the conversation by saying, “It’s written in the Quran.” That was his irrefutable evidence against me – the Quran says so, so it must be true.
It’s never been a place I’ve frequented, but I have continued to cycle through it once every long while. The last time I felt the need to be drawn into a debate with someone was about 6 months ago. A white ginger convert to Islam was denouncing Christianity and attempting to prove Islam is the one true religion. He was bullying an elderly lady, and I felt the need to intervene. At this point, I should tell you that Speakers’ Corner is now primarily the domain of Muslims. There’s little else going on there except for Muslim speakers and gangs of young Muslim men who surround you the minute you start debating Islam. It must also be stated that everyone is on their phones googling the answers to things. No one seems to know anything by heart, not even their sacred Qurans. The ginger convert was quoting Jesus from one of his parables (without knowing the name of the parable or what a parable is). I then asked him where sperm was made and he told me in the lower backbone. I told him sperm is produced in the testes. At this point he started laughing outrageously and loudly at me, as did his ten friends.
This was very shocking to me. This white British man had gone through probably the same biology classes I had, and yet the minute he converted to Islam, he believed that sperm is produced in the backbone. He eventually phoned a friend (presumably an expert in Islam) and he offered an apology, saying that I was “partly right” but that some sperm is produced in the lower backbone. I attempted to engage him in a few problematic aspects of Islam. He and his friends were questioning me without giving many, if any, answers. He asked me if I knew what Zakat is. I told him in detail exactly what it is. I then asked him if he knew how many elements there are to Zakat. He simply said Zakat is for feeding poor people. This is not true. Zakat is one of the five pillars of Islam. It is donating a portion of your wealth on a yearly basis to an Islamic charity who will distribute it on your behalf. One of the things that Zakat funds is terrorism – global jihad, those striving in the path of Allah. This convert had never heard of such a thing, and he and his friends again laughed uproariously at me. At which point they all had to go on to the grass to pray (and avoid any further embarrassment).
Then three months ago, I happened to be walking through Speaker’s Corner one Sunday, and there was a Muslim man done up in traditional Turkish attire, replete with the Aladdin upturned shoes. He was striding up and down, gathering momentum and bracing himself to speak loudly and passionately on behalf of Allah. He took centre stage and said, “Allah is the one true God because the word Hallelujah has ‘Allah’ in the middle of it.” This is nonsense. I had to take him to task. Hallelujah is a Hebrew word and it breaks down into two morphemes (the shortest possible component part of a word – “yes” has one morpheme, for instance). Hallelujah breaks down into “Hallel” and “Yah.” Hallel is “to worship” and “Yah” is the Hebrew word for God (YHWH – Yahweh). Hallelujah means to worship the Hebrew God. The explanation didn’t stop him, however, I simply found myself being bullied out of the way by a pack of his adherents. I promised myself never to go back. Precious brain cells get lost in Speakers’ Corner. It should be renamed “Idiots’ Corner.”
I’ve avoided the Tommy Robinson affair at Speakers’ Corner (“the Battle for Speakers’ Corner,” as it’s being called), but last week I ventured up because Antifa were opposing particular speakers — Generation Identity. I wanted to hear what they had to say. When I got there, I had missed the speech, but Antifa were hanging around and banging their drums in order to cause as much noise pollution as possible. I’ve no idea why they fear language so much.
The whole point to this article, and the reason for my recent visit to Speakers’ Corner, is because I am wondering if this is a pivotal moment in history. To me, it feels very boring and childish. A bunch of adults are foot-stomping over hurty feels. This is no suffragette movement, it’s no Notting Hill riot, it’s no abolition of slavery. It’s simply a bunch of moronic idiots who don’t have a handle on their emotions shouting out at imaginary boogeymen. I also do wonder if I’m too close to all of this. It can take the passing of years to look back and see the relevance of a thing. But this Antifa movement and the shouting down of differing opinions is a step back in time, it’s not a move forward for the human race. I dare say, and I hope, that these “snowflakes” will look back on YouTube video of themselves in years to come, throwing their tantrums, and be utterly ashamed of themselves. Not something you’d want to show the grandchildren.
What do Antifa even stand for, beyond the fact that hate is a big money industry and they are being funded by liberals and lefties? We had the hippy movement, then punk, then New Romantics, Goths, Teddy Boys, Mods, etc. Yes, they were fashion trends, but they also came with a social stance attached to them. Antifa wear the obligatory black jeans, black hoodie, and anything that covers the face. The lack of intelligence is apparent and they are fueled by hatred. The police kettled them in as a bunch of us went to the pub, and then the police escorted us to the Tube station. As we were walking around the streets with the police surrounding us and with the Antifa kettled in a few blocks away, we kept passing “spotters” – Antifa members who were stationed on a majority of street corners, texting their mates and telling them where we were headed, presumably so they could catch up with us later for an ass-whooping. I was at the back of the line and as the police escorted us into the station, two spotters tried to pretend they just wanted to get on the Tube with us. The police stopped them. I could only stand and laugh at them. One was a withered old man, probably about 45 but looked like he was 60 from a hard life of cigarettes and booze. His partner in crime was a young woman, fat and less than 5 feet tall. I couldn’t help but wonder what kind of physical damage they thought they would be able to inflict on anyone.
The chants were what you’d expect: “racist,” “nazi,” “refugees welcome,” etc. The only name they left out was “Trump,” which was surprising. I don’t have any answers to today’s current social and political climate. It’s not one that interests me, outside of the fact that Britain has been importing too many religious bigots who are not integrating. About 15 years ago, I would have said that Britain had become irreligious. Astronomy and science had pushed God further and further from our lives, but now we have become inundated with the worst types of religious bigots. Bigots who bring their tribal warfare and sectarianism with them and who believe sperm is produced in the backbone.
Mr. Robinson is planning a march from Speakers’ Corner to the Twitter HQ on May 6th. This is a condemnation of censorship of speech. “The Battle For Speakers’ Corner” is the phrase that will be etched in history. Let’s see how it plays out. And the real battle being fought is not between Antifa and all other sane people, the real battle is for the little winding walkways in the park where people speak and which is known as Speakers’ Corner. The policy is that public praying is not allowed in the park unless permission has been requested for some special event such as the Pope’s visit, yet every weekend the Muslims, as usual, defiantly block the pathways in prayer. The police, in spite of being aware of the law, allowed them to go about their business, but one little old lady took the coppers to task and informed them of the park’s laws, and video of this was posted online. Now the Muslims are defying the police, flagrantly getting on their knees, appropriating space, knowing it is illegal to do so, and continuing to disrespect all others by blocking pedestrians’ way in a show of supremacy. Videos are starting to emerge of violent and hostile Muslims confronting the police, who are moving them along as they try to get on their knees to pray.
This is the real Battle For Speakers’ Corner. It’s not Antifa who are shutting down speech, it’s Muslims. In ten years, the place has gone from being a “marketplace of ideas” to a recruiting ground for Islam, with the vast majority of speakers and listeners being Muslims. Things won’t get any better anytime soon, and pretty soon they’ll have to rename that section of the park Muslims’ Corner or Religious Bigots’ Corner. Winston Churchill and other noted figures started off their careers at Speakers’ Corner; all of them went on to achieve great things. Men and women with great vision, great imagination and a wide and wonderful variety of ideas. The ensuing years will provide us with the fruits of today’s debates that are coming out of a once-great location. A location that has given rise to an oral tradition and which has been a symbol that has been synonymous with and dedicated to freedom of speech and the exchanging of ideas for decades.
sammy says
Not all people at Speakers Corner are Muslims, there are teams of Christians and solo Christians debating Muslims on their faith, and are very adept at it.
Check out DCCI Ministries https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf0MDB_oF7huA78BNADx9sQ
and Soco Films https://www.youtube.com/user/jcSoco
isaac says
The article says MOST of the people there are muslims and that is true.
Roderick MacUalraig says
I saw Tan on a few. That guy is hilarious. You’re right, though… there are some well spoken, knowledgeable and witty debaters.
HK says
Yes Christians please keep up the battle for true faith – England turned it’s back on this with Darwin and now a reaping the consequences as others filling the void in way bad for democracy. British people with a Christian heritage – come back and revive the church as help your fellow Christians so again there will be more churches and values and common sense back in society than mosques and the opposite to what you get with the Left.
gravenimage says
Your belief that all Christians reject science is mistaken.
Simone says
I would love to see Shia Muslims confronting Sunni Muslims at Hyde Park.
somehistory says
Interesting. Thanks for sharing.
mortimer says
Jacob heard: “It’s written in the Quran.” That was his irrefutable evidence against me – the Quran says so, so it must be true.
Islam is based on a series of such CIRCULAR, FALLACIOUS ARGUMENTS. This circular reasoning is also called a ‘bootstrap’ argument.
Muslims claim that Mohammed is a prophet because the Koran says so and Mohammed pulled the Koran out of his HEAD. The Koran admits that these revelations came into Mohammed’s ‘heart’ (Arab equivalent of ‘MIND’).
When Mohammed ‘received’ revelations (or so he thought), he would first hear ringing, then roll on the ground, sweat, convulse, snort like a camel, etc. It was ugly and the hadiths say they threw a sheet over Mohammed when this happened. Afterwards, he claimed he had been instructed by an angel.
A number of doctors have written theories that Mohammed suffered from temporal lobe epilepsy. Pedophilia seems related to this disease as well.
https://michaelsherlockauthor.wordpress.com/2015/09/11/did-the-prophet-muhammad-suffer-from-temporal-lobe-epilepsy/
mortimer says
Conclusions from above:
So what are we to make of Muhammad’s abhorrent behaviour? Was he the product of faulty wiring, a bad environment, or possibly a combination of both of these factors, or was he just a mean and perverted old man? More importantly, what are we to make of verses in the Qur’an and Hadith that encourage modern and even moderate Muslims to emulate his perverse behaviour, to walk like an epileptic wife beating paedophile, if you will? Surely these exhortations serve no healthy function in societies marked by a superior moral code, a code that frowns upon and even proscribes rape, paedophilia, misogyny and beheadings for blasphemy, along with the various other machinations of medieval madness that marred Muhammad’s hostile and inhospitable environment. Notwithstanding the pertinent nature of these questions, there is but one fundamental question raised by this investigation, and it cuts to the very heart of the religion of Islam: If Muhammad was suffering temporal lobe epilepsy, which may have been the case, then aren’t the 1.6 billion Muslims living in the world today simply squandering their precious lives in service to the hallucinations of a medieval tyrant who suffered temporal lobe epilepsy?
https://michaelsherlockauthor.wordpress.com/2015/09/11/did-the-prophet-muhammad-suffer-from-temporal-lobe-epilepsy/
DBM echo says
I’ll go with mean and perverted old man.
Terry Gain says
“Mean and perverted”
It’s like describing Saddam Hussein as ” a bad guy”
Muhammad was wicked, sadistic, evil and deceitful.
Richard says
The interesting thing about the excellent point you make, Mortimer, is the abhorrent nature of Islam to normal people. If you become a traditional Catholic, you have to give up a great deal and live a morally upright life. Originally, a million Christians were tortured to death by the ancient Romans for that free will choice. If you become an Orthodox Jew, you willingly give up even more to please God. Thousand of years of persecution have not managed to erase that faith. Yet Muslims gain their converts by threatening to kill anyone who won’t convert. “Say not that you believe. Say rather that you submit!” How horrible must a religion be that gains its converts by killing anyone who won’t join?! I say nothing of their idea of heaven, where those ‘lucky’ enough to get there spend an eternity having sex with skeletal women who, because of female genital mutilation, can’t respond to you. Total selfishness on the Muslim man’s part! Worse, whether they are virgins or grapes, the Muslims call those women houries, which sounds suspiciously like the origin of the English word “whores”. I’d prefer 72 Virginians any time.
Terry Gain says
Islam is evil and irrational. Islam blasphemes God. It is not a religion.
Alice says
Interesting insight.
Rob Crawford says
“Mohammed pulled the Koran out of his HEAD.”
Nah. Came from lower. Much lower.
gravenimage says
True, Mortimer. The Qur’an is full of references to the Qur’an being proven because it is in the Qur’an. Circular reasoning indeed.
milad says
“Idiots Corner”? I MUST write to Sad -iq Khan.
Shmoovie says
These bearded mobs don’t do much for the appearance of the RoP, when a pack of twenty to thirty surrounds to intimidate one or two infidels.
Mayor Khan heartily approves; he’ll explain that what is seen in these videos is simply an islamic version of a ‘Speaker’s Corner’.
gravenimage says
Muslims don’t care if they look bad. They just want to be obeyed.
boakai ngombu says
Jacob, OT: have you run across the following info? (It was sent me and included no source or documentation):
How the British have passively succumbed to the Muslim invasion:
Mayor of London … MUSLIM
Mayor of Birmingham … MUSLIM
Mayor of Leeds … MUSLIM
Mayor of Blackburn … MUSLIM
Mayor of Sheffield … MUSLIM
Mayor of Oxford … MUSLIM
Mayor of Luton …. MUSLIM
Mayor of Oldham … MUSLIM
Mayor of Rochdale … MUSLIM
All the following achieved by just 4 million Muslims out of the 66 million population:
Over 3,000 Muslim Mosques
Over 130 Muslim Sharia Courts
Over 50 Muslim Sharia Councils
Muslims Only No-Go Areas Across The UK
Muslim Women.. 78% don’t work and are on FREE benefits/housing
Muslim Men… 63% don’t work and are on FREE benefits/housing
Muslim Families… 6-8 children planning to go on FREE benefits/housing and now all UK schools are ONLY serving HALAL MEAT!
Xero_G says
Perhaps you could have done a simple Google-search to fact check the claims. They are exaggerated in many instances and entirely false in others. https://fullfact.org/news/muslims-uk-viral-poster-factchecked/
boakai ngombu says
thanx Xero_G. was not aware of fullfact. the info is informative and helpful.
gravenimage says
boakai ngombu, you are right–all of these places have indeed had Muslim mayors, though not all at the same time. Still deeply disturbing.
brane pilot says
Remind me again what WWII was all about. It would appear that it was just a lot of smoke and noise in preparation for the greatest act of Treason in human history. As I understand it, you can be now be arrested in Britain for publicly quoting Winston Churchill.
patriotliz says
What was WESTERN CIVILIZATION all about that in spite of its grueling ‘trial and error’ to improve the human condition, that within a generation, Europe commits a monumental ERROR of retrogression into something worse than the previous Dark Ages by “welcoming” a barbarian invasion? This is how civilizations die—and Europe is programmed to die within a century.
What good is NATO when Europe has already rolled out the red carpet to the enemy?
And, the ENEMY of Western Civilization IS and, has ALWAYS been, ISLAM.
Maran Atha says
Agree 100%, patriotliz.
Peter WF says
They hide under or behind the Burqa Curtain. Similar to the Iron Curtain but this one moves around. It is in lots of places. A curtain of lies and deceit where ever.it goes or appears.
Cicero says
Very eloquently expressed ,sir!
Peter WF says
Muslims can corrupt democracy by voting as a tribe.
Cicero says
They invariably vote or act as block,hence their effective seizure of negotiating advantage in any situation.
As per their Koranic instructions ROP conscripts will support any Muslim against a non – Muslim in any situation regardless of the rights or wrongs of any situation
isaac says
you are right that they are very political, and that pretty soon they’ll be demanding sharia.
brane pilot says
Contrary to naive predictions of decades past that the Internet would result in widespread discourse and diversity of opinion, social media and the internet are converging towards a state of hive-mind. All discourse that is off-narrative as defined by hive-mind gate keepers is defined as hate speech and censored.
In a state of hive-mind, there is no room for places like speaker’s corner, on or off the internet. There is only the narrative of the hive, or silence. If racketeering and anti-trust laws are not used to defend freedom of speech from Leftist corporate internet overlords, freedom of speech is dead. Once gone, all other freedoms will follow.
The elites responsible for this process are well aware of what they are doing.
No Fear says
“Sperm is produced in the backbone” according to the Quran so it must be true!
For any muslim who may read this I ask : Why did Allah, when he created man, insert endogenous retroviruses into man’s DNA?
Light_n_Fluffy says
They’d be too thick to know what an endogenous retrovirus is. Most of them probably don’t even know what DNA stands for.
Sarah says
I’m trying to wrap my head around the idea of that ginger-ninja convert who has effectively jettisoned a lifetime of educational knowledge that has come from not only his education, but also his background as a Westerner and a citizen of a first world, advanced nation – for the words written down by a bunch of primitive Arabs a hell of a long time ago, who wrote those words, long after the death of an illiterate, primitive warlord from 14 centuries ago who spoke those words.
And another Ginger!! Shut the front door! Whenever I see a Ginger convert, all I can think of, is that they are puerile, weak and lacking in any real resilience. Awww, you got teased for having red hair – so you join a religion that makes you feel like you belong- and lets you redirect all that simmering resentment, bitterness and deep hatred that you feel, back at everyone else not involved with said religion. Yep, Ginger-Ninja’s are winners, alright. (sarc).
Speakers Corner is a British institution that has spread throughout the world, to many different places as a result of the British Empire and today, the Commonwealth. We have several Speakers Corners here in Australia. It is an old and cherished feature of Western civilization and also, largely thanks to Colonialism. Can you imagine Trinidad, for example, having a Speakers Corner? They do – and its thanks to Colonialism, being as they are members of the Commonwealth.
To hear that Speakers Corner in Hyde Park – a vitally important historical site for the West – has become overrun with Muslims, is disheartening at absolute best. Islam and Western civilization just do not mix and to see these Muslims take advantage of key elements of Western civilization – just so that they can promote their own Islamic culture – which is diametrically opposed to our way of life, is obscene. And it is hypocritical in the extreme, on the behalf of these dipshit Muslims – but being giant hypocrites is just a part and parcel of being Muslim, it seems.
isaac says
yes, very well noted and very sad to witness.
kuriakose says
quran 0.00: O ye who enter islam! allah will abrogate your brain and substitute something better.
Lydia Church says
In this one must learn to ‘pick their battles.’
I think that place is a lost cause at this point.
dumbledoresarmy says
You don’t know that.
You are not in the UK.
Tommy Robinson obviously doesn’t think it’s a lost cause.. and he has gone toe-to-toe with Muslims, he has tangled with Muslims up close and personal, in far more frightening situations than I think you have.
I know a lady from London. She went to the gathering at Speaker’s Corner, at which Mr Robinson spoke, and read the letter from the German visitor who had been prevented – by officialdom – from coming to that place, to speak. She was *encouraged* by the atmosphere at that gathering, and the many people that she met there.
You identify as a Christian. Well: pray for the re-taking of Speaker’s Corner!!
Don’t tell British jihadwatchers to give up and surrender it to the enemy.
Pray for them and encourage them to **reclaim the ground**.
If you were in the UK I would tell you to go there with twenty or thirty friends, and walk all around the place, and **intercede**, and claim that ground for *God*.
We’ve been told that there are Christians who speak there already; who challenge the Muslims. Pray for them! Pray that they will prevail!
Peter McLoughlin says
There are 1 million straight white men in London.
The videos of a Chinese Malaysian defending Speakers corner — surrounded by a pack of Mohammedans, with barely a single Englishman by his side — shows that Speakers Corner is dead. The English care more about computer games than they care about free speech.
I went to watch the day Tommy Robinson was at Speakers Corner. I have watched enough EDL demos to know that it was the same crowd at Speakers Corner that day. I had hoped the middle class would have woken up to the need to defend principles. It is the middle class who would normally be the group to fight for abstract principles such as freedom of speech. They don’t care, because they are terrified of Islam. And they are personally “doing well”, sitting in houses worth hundreds of thousands of pounds. Their silence has been bought.
How is it that for over 40 years Muslim gangs have been raping English schoolgirls with impunity? The English have just turned their eyes and let those girls be raped. If they don’t care for something as practical and horrific as schoolgirls being raped and turned into addicts, why would you expect them to care about Speakers Corner?
Anne Smith says
Unfortunately I do not think they will prevail as long as we have the appalling, lazy and incompetent Theresa May for Prime Minister.
Before becoming PM she was in charge of the Home Office for six years. It is only now that matters are coming to light which show what a complete mess she made of that Ministry. Apart from cutting down all our border controls to near non-existent and allowing every Tom Dick and Harry into the country with criminal records and being unable to deport anybody (except Sheik Hamza, and that took six years) she has now been exposed as allowing the Home Office to destroy the records of Caribbean immigrants who came here quite legally, and in many cases in response to appeals for nurses for the NHS and people to work on the railways. Their children are now being deported as they cannot show any documentation of their arrival or permission to be here, all records having been destroyed by the Home Office. It is an absolute scandal and disgrace and typical of this smug, arrogant and hopelessly inadequate Prime Minister.
If there is any doubt as to her preferences and why Speakers Corner will be Islam from now on take a look at this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aFQslqJZ4qQ
POD in Canuckistan says
I think I am going to heave.
Maran Atha says
When the government and especially their leader endorses the actions of others as against the Christian view, we should know that we are in big trouble.
How will she stand before the judgement seat of Christ? Stand before it she must.
gravenimage says
Hear, hear, DDA!
Baucent says
Tommy Robinson has zeroed in on the historical significance of Speakers Corner and the way muslims have been allowed to suffocate contrary views there. Also the unwillingness of the Police to uphold the law. As such it could become a rallying point if free-speech supporters turn out at Tommy’s event in May.
I think tactically for Tommy it’s a good move, let’s hope patriots turn out in the numbers he needs.
dumbledoresarmy says
Yes.
Myself, I think it is very important that the gatherings should continue, and that they should be very well attended, by persons who are prepared to stand shoulder to shoulder.
The more the better. The ultimate aim should be to *visibly outnumber* any numbers the mohammedans can muster.
Remember the song, ‘Stout-hearted men”? “Give me some men/ who are stout-hearted men…. Shoulder to shoulder, and bolder and bolder, they grow as they go to the fore…”. And stout-hearted women, too, are needed, right alongside their men; it was a savvy granny who was prepared to call upon the Law, in the account we have just read.
Esmerelda says
I was also there on Sunday
http://www.newenglishreview.org/blog_direct_link.cfm?blog_id=67308&Generation%2DIdentity%2Dat%2DSpeakers%2DCorner
dumbledoresarmy says
Yes. I saw that account. Excellent. Very heartening.
People here at jihadwatch sometimes seem to assume that all young people in ‘the west’ have been brainwashed/ dhimmified and are clueless apologists for Islam. Well… they’re wrong. Yes, some have been brainwashed.. but some *haven’t*. Generation Identity makes that quite, quite clear.
In many cases i think it will take young people – the 18s-30s – to reach their own. And I don’t think that their ability to do so should be underestimated. Those that have woken up – and a good few *have* – will wake up others.
gravenimage says
Esmerelda, thank you for the link.
isaac says
The problem with Speakers’ Corner is that it’s right at the bottom of Edgware Road and that whole entire area is virtually populated by Muslims. So that’s part of the reason they are taking over the area.
dumbledoresarmy says
All the more reason for an intelligent, united and concerted push by *Infidels* to retake and to *hold* Speaker’s Corner, which is of *critical* importance.
Think of it as Military High Ground. Not in physical terms, exactly, but in *psychological*, social, *political* terms.
Carol (the 1st) says
You must never give up as you never know when idiots will come to their senses and things will snowball. Last April Dr. Phyllis Chesler was dis-invited from a conference (on the subject of honor killings) to be held at the King Fahd Center, University of Arkansas. Some of her feminist allies vowed to make other arrangements, and in November of that year another honor-based conference was held at University College London. It seems other universities in the UK are now eager to present this honor-based conference as well.
BTW Middle East Forum has today released a very informative excerpt from Dr. Chesler’s book “A Family Conspiracy: Honor Killing”:
https://www.meforum.org/articles/2018/honor-killing-is-not-just-a-muslim-problem
gravenimage says
Thanks.
Cicero says
Welcome Jacob! It is encouraging to read your articles on the Islamic situation in the U.K. I hope you continue to write for Jihad Watch
Your articles are written with clarity and well structured. No shouting , no quoting of other scriptures apart from Islam, no misspellings .
A pleasure!
isaac says
He has a few more articles on here. Here’s one https://www.jihadwatch.org/2017/12/london-calling
isaac says
And another one https://www.jihadwatch.org/2018/01/resisting-hate%E2%80%A8-or-reviving-it
Anne Smith says
Agree, this was a brilliant article.
gravenimage says
Yes–good stuff. Welcome Jacob!
Terra Nova says
How stupid can people get. Pretty soon, you people will be forced to attend mosques, there will be no other religion then Islam, you will have to convert, and if you don’t abide, eventually they will kill you, you might get a chip in your hand or arm, so they can identify you. You don’t have any idea. Islam and Illuminati and Leftists and Cabal together translate sinister power. And your children have to go that way, but you did nothing, you let your children fight your battle in the time, that YOU COULD HAVE STPPED IT AND DONE SOMETHING ABOUT IT, but you were coward and say, because of the great good. You are lying and you will see what and whom you brought in and have them destroy our western countries and now you can live under that umbrella and it will not take 1400 years but many more. But enjoy !!!
dumbledoresarmy says
To whom are you speaking when you say “you people”?? Who are you addressing, *here*, when you say “You are lying”? *Spencer*???
The regular commenters here who come from any number of nations across the western world (at least) and beyond it… from Israel, from India, from parts of Africa?
Many of us *are* doing their very best, in their different countries, *within the existing laws*, to make others aware of the danger, and to put pressure on politicians, and to cast their vote wisely? So why do you seem to be blaming *us* and accusing *us*?
By the way: where are *you* from? Since English is clearly not your first language, I would like to know what is, and why you seem so intent on telling us that all is lost.
Carol (the 1st) says
I think Terra Nova is just trying to warn the inactive about the reality of what is lurking in the wings.
gravenimage says
+1
dumbledoresarmy says
From the article – “Mr. Robinson is planning a march from Speakers’ Corner to the Twitter HQ on May 6th. This is a condemnation of censorship of speech. “The Battle For Speakers’ Corner” is the phrase that will be etched in history….”.
Yes.
May 6th.
I will pray that the weather is good and that thousands upon thousands of free Britons – many of whom *wanted* to attend the earlier gathering but were prevented by the atrocious weather just prior, that blocked roads and screwed up the transport system – will converge on the spot in unison.
gravenimage says
Yes!
Leon says
the Islamic “holy” book presents them with a dilemma (on top of referring to Allah in three places as “the greatest of deceivers”):
And the word of your Lord [ie, Allah] has been fulfilled in truth and in justice. None can alter His words, and He is the Hearing, the Knowing. — Qur’an 6:115, Sahih International
He has sent down upon you, [Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. He revealed the Torah and the Gospel before, as guidance for the people. He revealed the Qur’an. Indeed, those who disbelieve in the verses of Allah will have a severe punishment, and Allah is exalted in Might, the Owner of Retribution. — 3:3-4
Indeed, We have revealed to you, [Muhammad], as We revealed to Noah and the prophets after him. And we revealed to Abraham, Ishmael, Isaac, Jacob, the Descendants, Jesus, Job, Jonah, Aaron, and Solomon, and to David We gave the book [of Psalms]. — 4:163
Let the People of the Gospel judge by what Allah has revealed therein. Whoever doesn’t judge by what Allah has revealed – it is those who are the defiantly disobedient. — 5:47
So if you are in doubt, [Muhammad], about that which We have revealed to you, then ask those who have been reading the Scripture before you. The truth has certainly come to you from your Lord [ie, Allah], so never be among the doubters. — Qur’an 10:94
Revealed to Jesus (as above): Jesus said to him, “I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man comes to the Father, but by me.” — John 14:6u
gravenimage says
There is no dillema for Muslims, Leon. The Qur’an and other texts of Islam say that Jews and Christians “corrupted” the Torah and Gospels, which were originally (supposedly) as savage as the Qur’an.
They don’t care that there is no evidence for this at all.
Tom says
Winston Churchill, a very wise man, said the following “The Fascists of the future will call themselves Anti – Fascist”, in this one short sentence is the complete description of Antifa. An organized group of Fascists projecting upon others what they themselves are doing.
The second point to be made is more serious. The Muslim Brotherhood has its tentacles completely wrapped around the western worlds politics and has control of many politicians of all political stripes. That battle is all but won for Islam. NOW the battle turns to winning the small skirmishes in order to completely win the war.
Speakers corner represents everything about freedom that the Islamists hate so they have decided to try to control not only the debates held there but also the very ground upon which the crucible of free stands. If they can do that, they can stop our free speech anywhere.
The battle for speakers corner is one of THE determining battles in the fight for the west and its culture, and MUST be won by the forces of freedom over those of evil.
Churchill was very much an advocate of standing up for what one believes in, at all costs. For if we don’t stand and fight, who will?
Perhaps we need to take advice from Winston when he said
“We shall defend our island, whatever the cost may be, we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; WE SHALL NEVER SURRENDER !!”
Speakers corner is one fight we cannot lose.
gravenimage says
The Battle for Speaker’s Corner
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Very disturbing to hear that Muslims have largely taken over Speaker’s Corner.
I was so heartened to hear about Tommy Robinson speaking there.