I recently interviewed a US Marine about Islam and jihad and multiculturalism in the military.
Joshua – It’s my opinion that all cultures have the right to exist, no matter how barbaric their practices. But it’s also my opinion that not all cultures belong on the same piece of land. As a Marine “in blood and soul,” what is your reaction to my statement?
Marine – The theory of multiculturalism is flawed in two major regards: it operates under the blatantly false principle that different cultures share the same values, and that there would be no conflict of interest between these cultures. The natural progression of ideas in an ecosystem is much like the manner in which two predators compete within a limited space for resources, with the predators equating to, on the one hand, the cultural foundation in subjugation and enslavement that Islam is rooted in, versus the courteous nature of Britain’s cultural foundation. One beast will devour the other, unless it adapts. Progressivism is a cancer, a degenerative disorder that’s getting worse with each generation, because there is no foundational counterbalance to it.
In addition, importing a mass of foreigners can create an imbalance in their pursuit of in-group goals at the expense of the residents. Personally, I believe letting their culture amass in population size by virtue of our government’s giving a desolate landscape billions in foreign aid and food creates the future invasion force that thirsts for our resources. You’ve got to think of what the Nazis were able to rationalize under the pretext of fighting international corporate elements and redressing massive economic disparity. A desperate animal will kill anything with any method at its disposal. And the most troublesome aspect of this is that there is no mercy nor respect coming from the barbaric cultures coming in. From a pure operant conditioning standpoint, the West allows these foreigners to get away with horrific crimes without any consequences, leading to the reinforcement of their anti-Western views and the way that Islamic fundamentalists look down upon the West. They see easy prey, and we are nothing more to them than that. Frankly, it’s not about the ethics of imperialism, it’s a kill-or-be-killed scenario, in which we give them more and more means by which to swarm in and colonize our nations.
This is a war of cultural conflict. A clash of ideas. On one side, we have a nation that isn’t allowed to have an identity, is experiencing the deconstruction of biology in regards to this gender/sex nonsense (which isn’t even backed by science, which I can definitely explain without much complexity), and expressed schisms between the sexes. On the other, we have a fundamentalist system distinctly geared to survive in harsh conditions and war/conquest. Each member of their family has definitive roles and to attempt to deconstruct that is to welcome death.
This may seem arbitrary or tangential; however, we’re witnessing parallels of the numerous utopian rat experiments playing out — and this new demographic will replace the currently crippled population if steps are not taken. The Utopian Rat experiment eventually leads to a behavioral sink, at the initial perception of overpopulation… Kinda like how the media told us to get abortions and stop having kids to save the environment or because there were too many people around. Funny how that destructive indoctrination seems to have engineered the severe decline in birth rates.
Joshua – The left in particular are heavily against the funding of the military and (in the UK) are against its very existence. Soldiers get spat at on the streets over here. Why does a soldier sign up for service? Regardless of whether it’s Trump or Clinton in power, a soldier, to me, doesn’t seem to pick up his arms for political reasons (or because he or she supports a political party). Clearly there is a need for every country to have a defense mechanism in place. Soldiers perform their tasks regardless of the political party in power. How do you feel about soldiers being blamed for having served or serving?
Marine – From my extremely anecdotal experience, there are two kinds of soldier. An opportunist, and a cultural military enthusiast. For some, it’s about the benefits. It’s about escaping an economic plight or socioeconomic disparity/trap. These people tend to be the ones who will bring political nonsense into the military, because for them the military should be convenient and appeal to their in-group “needs.” This is why EO (equal opportunity, sexual harassment/assault, etc. are all compiled under the EO order now) issues are seething throughout the military. The military is expected to care more about the culture than mission accomplishment from the outside. And the culture is severely toxic due to these kinds of people. For others, the military is an idea and a home. It’s a brotherhood and borderline spiritual endeavor that shouldn’t be sacrificed for anything. Strength, competence, reliability and more, all encapsulate the epitome of the healthy masculine image for these people. Part of our DNA demands us to be competent in violence, and so this side of the military motivation/drive is what brings people to join for the reasons like “getting to kill,” which is more about expressing repressed innate biological function in a healthy/productive environment that needs it instead of the outside world. I actually think that the intensity of the anti-military rhetoric and attitudes in London is what drives men and women to seek out ISIS. It’s their therapy from an environment that denies them expression and a place to belong. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not saying that everybody needs to hug it out, I’m just expressing that while multiculturalism is definitely bad, micro-cultures are an innate sociological cog that allow for the diverse biological demands of a society to be actualized and fulfilled.
Joshua – I’ve always said that the rules of engagement have changed in combat. It’s no longer two sides dressed in uniform meeting on the battleground. The enemy is all around. From car jihads to bombings to multiple stabbings. Any thoughts on this topic? The military can’t protect us from these people that we have let into our countries who despise us and are able to set up networks of cells, etc. Technology has assisted in changing the rules of engagement.
Marine – Yes, social media has changed the nature of terrorism to something much more frightening than ever before. I completely agree.
vassar bushmills says
Brought this issue up in 2016, re Arab Spring genesis. http://www.vassarbushmills.com/?p=64782
Would love your permission over to VeteransTales.org, whioch only does soldiers stories.
Vassar Bushmills
isaac says
feel free to republish
paul budrunas says
It doesn’t get any clearer than what this extremely articulate Marine had to say about Islam, PC crap and the danger the entire world is in due to these inbred murderers.
HP says
Extremely articulate Marine said:
” I believe letting their culture amass in population size by virtue of our government’s giving a desolate landscape billions in foreign aid and food creates the future invasion force that thirsts for our resources. .”
In common English, these nations that ‘have a desolate landscape’ cannot feed theirselves.
One can only wonder if this was by “design” : that a higher power determined that such ‘inbred murderers’
would be confined by space and geography to limited populations.
The resource that was given to these ‘desolate landscape nations” was oil. This is to be used to BUY
resources from more endowed nations.
Only morons, snowflakes, and idiots would give away a nation’s resources to other countries
whose very belief system calls for the utter destruction and annihilation of the first nation.
Infidel says
Paki Army Sniper shoots down an 8 month old Indian infant …VOW!!! Killing children in Jehaad for them and that too in their so called holy month.
gravenimage says
Horrible, Infidel.
Wellington says
This Marine is the kind of person who should be teaching and not the leftist fools (excuse the redundancy) who abound at every level of education today, from pre-school through graduate school. Won’t happen though because lefties have developed a lock on education and have turned it into indoctrination. Islam is profiting from this leftist rot and it will continue to do so for the foreseeable future.
HP says
NO. The infiltration of moslem rot into our nation escalated under the moslem regime of 2008-2016:
sotero, brennan, holder, jarrett, and all sotero’s moslem brotherhood pals he put into positions
in the United States governmental system.
It SHALL NOT continue. This is 2018, and a credible dent is being made into pushing back their inroads.
How can you stop it? Pick one thing, and learn all you can about it. If your interest is your locality, your
state, your schools,…., pick one and GET Informed.
Then, write your letters, post your information on web-sites, and KEEP DOING IT !
You said, “This Marine is the kind of person who should be teaching …” Well, how do you think he got
to be informed and educated?
Answer: He learned about the issues. You can be like him, and make just as much impact.
Wellington says
HP: I taught for a third of a century (30 years at the college level and 3 years at the high school level) and I like to think I did make an impact.
But, more important, what’s your beef with my statement? Why are you ragging on me?
Roderick MacUalraig says
BTW, you have had an impact.
Across much time and space, you have imparted knowledge and ways to think and argue on the issues presented aboard JW.
Your time and effort hasn’t been wasted.
HP says
Wellington,
The comments and suggestions made were NOT made in the spirit of “ragging on you.’
The recourse was to point out the ORIGIN of the “leftist indoctrination” you stated
that was infiltrating and rotting America’s educational system.
It is obvious from poster’s comments, you all have been here a long time. That is good. Then you have all followed and learned from Mr. Spencer’s research into the Moslem regime that is established and ensconced in the Democratic Party.
It is the people who sit in the positions of power of this country that change, bend,
and flaw the original intent of the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights.
Under the regime of 2008-2016, moslem ideology ruled under the guise of leftist political parties, (i.e. Democrats). Try Debbie Wasserman Schulz, Imram Iwan (IT guys), Keith Ellison: all these people and more had positions because of leftists’ unreal
expectations that moslems like them, and can be assimilated.
This is where I did disagree with the apparent fatalistic statement that was made by you:
“Won’t happen though because lefties have developed a lock on education and have turned it into indoctrination.”
As an educator, you are well aware some people’s minds naturally tend to soak in whatever is stuffed in there: while others actively chew it up and spit it out if it is a foreign substance.
WISP is an anacronym for Wisconsin Inventory of Science Processes, in which all the great scientists of the world attempted to define and clarify what is Science.
In the end, it all basically boiled down to approximately 10% of everything (in Science),
CAN NOT be explained, NOR predicted.
So when I stated “NO”, it was refusing to accept any foregone and fatalistic conclusion
that our country has to continue to put up with this garbage.
It only took 3% of the colonists to achieve the American Revolution of 1776.
Harvard, Yale, Columbia, and many, many other colleges and universities across the United States have taken tens and tens of millions of dollars from Saudi Arabia (and
other moslem entities) to establish Shariah Law Departments in their Law Schools.
Elena Kagan, now supreme court “Justus”, was rewarded w/this position by sotero after having made her solicitor general after she established a sharia law dept at Harvard.
It is easy to say “leftist indoctrination”, which is a very general and socially acceptable term, but does not really clarify any particular item.
The research that Mr. Spencer ( David Horowitz, Bridgette Gabriel, Pam Geller, and others) has done shows detail, particular times, instances, dates, facts and figures.
The devil is in the details. You say you taught college for 30 years. Do you know if a
Mid-East” study department was, or has been established at the place where you worked?
Indoctrination is not usually an in-your-face attempt, but is usually deceptive in its intent
and guarded as to origin.
JAR says
This is funny. HP is lecturing Wellington. HP must be new to the JW comments section. Not that Wellington can’t respond himself, but I’d guess that HP is due to be slapped any time soon by the much “informed and educated” W who’s “learned about the issues” and has been informing and educating fellow commenters here for years.
Roderick MacUalraig says
I appreciate your enthusiasm. But you responded to a veteran JW poster like he was a child. I humbly advise to read here plenty afore you reply.
Wellington is a proven asset.
You may be as well, but the man you responded to rates a little more respect. Aloha.
gravenimage says
+1
gravenimage says
HP, Wellington is one of the most knowledgeable posters here.
I agree with Roderick MacUalraig.
Norger says
To your point, any person who dares to perform an objective military threat assessment of Islam—and speaks about it in the bluntly honest manner of this Marine—would be distinctively unwelcome to teach at most American universities. His views are not acceptable to be discussed at our institutions of higher learning. Contrast with the tenured Muslim professor at Kent State (recently indicted by the feds) who encouraged children to become suicide bombers.
Savvy Kafir says
Smart guy! He’s obviously given all of this a lot of thought.
Jaladhi says
Islam doesn’t fit with any culture and therefore not compatible with another culture/religion! Muslims don’t care for any multiculturalism and they should live in their Islamic lands only
Anonymous says
In the days of Peleg, the earth was divided.
And it has not been put back together again.
Simple logic says distances and gulfs were created on purpose to separate such divergent lifestyles.
HP says
In the days of Peleg, the earth was divided,
and it has not been put back together again.
Simple logic suggests a grand design created vast distances and oceans
to separate disparate cultures.
Roderick MacUalraig says
Simple logic? So the grand designer separated cultures on purpose?
HP, I think you’re full of shit.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Hindu barbarian Jaladhi, It is true Islam does’nt fit your barbaric and savage culture of Idol worships and inhuman caste system where you insert sticks Instead of penis into vaginas of outcaste ladies.
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed has made this bizarre claim before. It seems he is fine with rape as long as it involves his penis, though…
CogitoErgoSum says
Anyone who follows the orders of the Quran is a soldier. Some wear a uniform and some do not. Some have infiltrated to live among their enemy so as to wait for the time when the numbers of their army grow large enough to strike. Life is an eternal Jihad for them and Jihad is war against DISBELIEF. We, THE UNBELIEVERS, are their eternal enemy to be eliminated or made to submit to them. Islam has made itself our implacable foe now and forever and we must fight whether we like it or not ….. or bequeath to our children enslavement or death.
Michael Copeland says
“an excellent pattern ……between us and you enmity and hatred forever…”
Koran 60:4, part of Islamic law
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
Cogitoergosum, everyone mithraist Who believes in mithraist Bible can carryout genocide killings lie.individual Muslims are not allowed to fight jîhad and where an individual muslim kills he has committed murder and can be tried before sharia court.
gravenimage says
Uh huh–Ibrahim itace muhammed well knows that there are no penalties under Shari’ah for a Muslim to murder an Infidel.
Infidel says
This marine comes across as a very knowledgeable intellectual. Brawn and brains have indeed gone together in his case. My heartfelt appreciations… These are the kind of people that we need as leaders and not that leftist garbage…
Roderick MacUalraig says
Agreed.
Walter Sieruk says
In this twenty –first century “War of Ideals” since September 11, 2001 in this great and terrible conflict between the Judeo- Christian West and the Islamic East, the sad reality is that one of the things that is holding back much progress of the West is that many Westerners are infected by the worthless , sick and unrealistic philosophies which are called “Multiculturalism” and “Cultural Relativity.”
Which are the concepts that all culture are equal because this C.R concept teaches the foolishness that all values derive their meaning within the specific social content. This folly of thinking leads, or misleads, many people to view every position as only “opinion” and that truth is only relevant to the person or society holding that view. In other words, discovering actual truth in impossible.
Theses philosophies of multiculturalism and cultural relativity are absurd, nonsensical and contradictory. For example, to say “finding the truth is impossible “Is a statement of contradiction. For in making that statement that is saying, in essence, “I have found the truth which is finding the truth is not possible.” It should be obvious that this “War of Ideas” needs to and should have a solidly based in and on truth and not by a worthless “war of opinions” A person who embraces multiculturalism and cultural relativity would say about a scholarly truth teller about Islam with its different kinds of jihad , as Pamela Geller, that she is only giving her “opinion” on the subject.
Such ignorance is appalling. Just look at history. If Americans had that MC and C.R. view ,as many Americans do today , then during World War II it would had been madness and a fools fight to go into battle against the military forces of Nazism if it was only just “opinion” that Hitler was wrong and evil. Likewise in this twenty-first century it would be nonsense, for example, for the US troops to fight and maybe even die in Afghanistan if it’s just “opinion” that the Taliban and Al Qaeda are wrong and evil.
Two other examples of the falseness of MC and C.R. with its teaching that everything is only “opinion.” First is in the elate 1970’s two guys said “There are so many different religions that no one can ever know the truth about religion.” They were really saying that statement so dogmatically that they were self-contradicting. For they were saying that they know the truth about religion that is not one can know the truth about religion. Second, a shallow man in the 1980’s said when asked the question “Why do you always small talk ? You don’t ever talk about a topic that might have some value, as politics? After all , all thing are related “ That shallow C.R man replied “There are so many different political ideas that finding the true one is unattainable and all thing are not related.” The wisdom-less man was saying that he obtained the truth which is the he can’t obtain the truth and who does can is really truthfully say that all thing are not related in he can’t find the truth. How foolish, an obvious contradiction. What is needed to counter this nonsense C.R./P.C. is the concept of “Absolutism.” Which a definition of this, with the scope of the topic, is “An absolute standard or principle .” In this “war of idea’s it’s the Bible with its absolute standards and principles to stand firm against Islam is its different types of jihad with its many evils. In conclusion, in this War of Ideas a firm foundation for truth may be found in the Bible and not the weak folly multiculturalism and cultural relativity in which everything is “opinion.”
thehypnotoad says
thanks you for your reply.
i’ve though the same thing too for a while now. not all opinions are valid and opinions can in fact be wrong.
i hate the “in my opinion….” that is said often times before a dumb statement as if to excuse themselves of their own stupidity. and when confronted? how often does one hear the person recoil back to their ignorance and refusal to learn and grow? way too often.
you are spot on, this mindset has made everyone endlessly search for truth, while admitting that they can never find the truth because everything is just a mere opinion.
you may not be mormon like me, but i think the opening of the mormon doctrine and covenants puts it well.
38 What I the Lord have spoken, I have spoken, and I excuse not myself; and though the heavens and the earth pass away, my word shall not pass away, but shall all be fulfilled, whether by mine own voice or by the voice of my servants, it is the same.
indeed….we should be like that. speak and don’t excuse yourself for what you say.
sadly….you’re right, far too many of us are infected with this. i know i am, even if at times i am not or act differently, i know this attitude has infected me. and i fear for my country, as i see most of us are spineless.
Ren says
This is a very relevant analysis of the flawed multiculturalism in the West.
Tom says
We are fighting multiple wars simultaneously. The cultural war with the progressive left has gone badly over the last couple of decades and we were on the ropes due to the prevalence of political correctness.
We are also in the midst of a war of ideologies between Islam and its culture of supremacy and subjugation and Christianity and western values. We have lost several skirmishes in the last few years due to political treachery and an unholy alliance between Islam and the progressive left wing fascists.
However we are recovering slowly on both fronts and are actually starting to push offensively back on both enemies, thanks to the election of Donald Trump. What is needed now is a concerted effort to remove left wing politicians from office, replace the left wing perspective in our education and media, and stop the attacks on our freedom of speech so that we can further advance truths that need to be said in order to awaken the sleeping giant in the west. Once we achieve this we will have trapped our enemies and will quickly defeat them.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
cortez, you are echoing savage mad devil Trump’s campaign speech that he was thinking of recolonising black Africans to repatriate the remnant of resources to apartheid evil united states and revive that cruel transatlantic slave trade. mithraist christians are Idiots to the core. Do you think these barbarities by your foreparents are possible at this age ? you are just dreaming. Fools !!
CogitoErgoSum says
Ibrahim, do you know the proper way to drink water? Yes, there is a right way and a wrong way to drink water. If you drink water standing up you should make yourself vomit (so the smell of Christians is not he only thing you should avoid). Always sit down when you drink your water and only use your right hand. I just wanted to make sure you know so that if you do it wrong you risk going to Hell … and I want everyone else to know because these rules will apply to the dhimmis when you Muslims become the masters of the Earth.
https://www.wikihow.com/Drink-Water-According-to-Islamic-Sunnah
DragarOz says
I was just wondering when old mate would chime in with the leftist catch word phrases like “apartheid”.
I especially love the implied suggestion that islam does not approve of slavery, first class! clap clap Ibi my man.
don vito says
itace, filthy and foolish, but your feet are clean. -54.001
gravenimage says
The appalling Ibrahim itace muhammed wrote:
cortez, you are echoing savage mad devil Trump’s campaign speech that he was thinking of recolonising black Africans to repatriate the remnant of resources to apartheid evil united states and revive that cruel transatlantic slave trade.
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Well, this is just grotesque calumny–nowhere has Trump ever talked about colonizing Africa (never mind that this would not be “recolonizing”–the United States never colonized Africa)–nor has he ever talked about reviving the slave trade. Citations, please.
It was in fact, the West that *abolished* slavery–nothing that ever happened in Islam, which still enslaves its victims.
More:
mithraist christians are Idiots to the core. Do you think these barbarities by your foreparents are possible at this age ? you are just dreaming. Fools !!
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Well, this is grimly hilarious, since Ibrahim itace muhammed has bragged about how Muslims can rape, enslave, and mass slaughter there victims, even in the free West. I believe what he is doing above is known as projection.
tim gallagher says
The marine cuts through a lot of the crap we often get from supposed experts. Our leaders are fools to let barbaric, vicious Muslims into our countries. He is spot on when he says, “The most troublesome aspect… is that there is no mercy nor respect coming from the barbaric cultures coming in… They see easy prey, etc” We are civilised, reasonably gentle societies and represent a soft touch to these barbaric invaders. It truly is them or us. They are enemies committed to the destruction of our way of life. They have to be kept out. Once these barbarians are let in to our societies it is already too late. And everyone, even our idiotic political leaders and moronic media types, should have woken up by now. Alas, there are so many slow learners around who seem intent on destroying our civilised way of life.
Risto Kantonen says
The next big war will not be between countries, it will be between civilizations. There is even a book written about that called Clash of Civilizations https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clash_of_Civilizations , which i haven’t read, but that conclusion seems more and more realistic as time goes on. And based on the situational awareness data abundantly available from public domains, that war will be fought on the European continent. What we’re seeing is a dangerous ideological enforcement of incompatible cultures on one another, driven by globalists, in hopes of forming a larger unified and cohesive whole.
Despite the obvious failure, the ideologue globalists refuse to accept what they have done and continue to force this on the European populations, while rationalising their increasingly irrational goals. It sure as hell doesn’t help that we have people like Federica Mogherini in the position of the High Representative of the Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy. This is what she has said earlier: https://eeas.europa.eu/headquarters/headquarters-homepage/6332/federica-mogherinis-remarks-at-call-to-europe-v-islam-in-europe-feps-conference_en
Linda Goudsmit says
This is a fascinating article. The marine expresses the reality of Lee Harris’ thesis in his extraordinary book The Suicide of Reason. Harris explains that societies built on reason are the product of the Enlightenment and can be successful only with societies that share its values of individual freedom and equality. Multiculturalism embraces the fallacy that the Tribal mind can live in peace with the Enlightened mind – it cannot because it will not. Europe vividly demonstrates this fact even though its globalist leaders and apologists vehemently deny it. Freedom loving citizens in the United States have the choice to embrace President Trump’s policies that unapologetically support the enlightened mind and the US Constitution or to follow Europe’s suicidal example into the Islamic abyss.
Jon Hendriks says
Linda. I’m sorry but there’s much more to the problem than just philosophy, ideology, and/or religion. Biology and Race also play a VERY key role. America is all but gone considering that currently there are 150 million legal citizens that are inherently of a mindset counter to, and in conflict with White/European peoples.
As this article makes clear (at least to me and others like me), It isn’t just Islam and religion that creates the problems of “multiculturalism” (which is actually multiracialism). Demographic deluge from across the third-world has ruined America. Even if we stopped immigration completely today we would still face a complete reversal and undermining of the old ethics and values that created and sustained this country until about the 1960’s (though the root of the problem goes back further by decades).
America will balkanize. It’s not a matter of if, only a matter of when and how. Prepare for that inevitability because any other way of thinking is folly and a waste of time and resources.
gravenimage says
Jon Hendriks wrote:
Linda. I’m sorry but there’s much more to the problem than just philosophy, ideology, and/or religion. Biology and Race also play a VERY key role.
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Islam is not a race. Muslims of any ethnicity present a threat to us.
Roderick MacUalraig says
SEMPER FIDELIS
gravenimage says
A Marine’s take on multiculturalism, Islam and jihad
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Good stuff from this Marine. Thank you, Joshua Winston.