“Prime Minister Charles Michel has acknowledged the assailant, who had a lengthy criminal record that included theft, assault and drug offenses, had appeared indirectly in three reports on radicalism but was still allowed to take a leave from prison.”
Michel should be forced to resign in disgrace, but of course he will not be. Still, what is the point of these “reports on radicalism” if nothing is done to stop the “radicals”?
Meanwhile, note the three photos of weeping police officers in the MailOnline article. I understand their mourning the deaths of their colleagues, but in public it would be preferable for police officers, rather than dissolving in tears, to project a steely resolve. Jihadis in Belgium, and there are many, will see their tears as weakness, and step up their activities. But steely resolve appears to be in extremely short supply in today’s multicultural Europe.
“Tearful police mourn slain colleagues of Belgian terrorist as it’s revealed murderer’s fourth victim was ex cellmate he clubbed to death ‘after they carried out a jewellery robbery together’ hours before Liege bloodbath,” by Julian Robinson, MailOnline, May 30, 2018:
A terrorist who slaughtered three people on the streets of Liege while shouting ‘Allahu Akbar’ had clubbed his ex cellmate to death a day before the bloodbath after the pair carried out a robbery, it has been claimed.
The attacker, named as Benjamin Herman, knifed police officer Lucile Garcia, 54, and her colleague Soraya Belkacemi, 45, from behind before using their guns to shoot them dead.
Herman then shot 22-year-old teacher Cyril Vangriecken and took two women hostage inside a school before being killed in a dramatic shoot-out with police. A Belgian federal magistrate said today the Liege attacks are considered ‘terrorist murder’ and the investigation now centres on whether the suspect acted alone.
Herman, 31, is also suspected of murdering a former cellmate, named in Belgian media as Michaël W, 30. Nieuwsblad reports that Michaël W had been Herman’s accomplice in a robbery on Monday night but was later found dead in the district of Marche-en-Famenne, 40 miles from Liege, having been hit on the head with a blunt instrument.
Herman, 31, was on a 48-hour release from prison when he carried out the rampage on Tuesday. Having been in jail since 2003, it was the 14th occasion he had been given temporary leave ahead of his planned ‘reintegration into society’ in 2020.
As questions remained this morning over what was known about Herman’s radicalisation, devastated officers gathered to mourn the deaths of their fallen colleagues. Tearful police officers stood for a moment of silence near the City Hall in Liege.
Prime Minister Charles Michel has acknowledged the assailant, who had a lengthy criminal record that included theft, assault and drug offenses, had appeared indirectly in three reports on radicalism but was still allowed to take a leave from prison.
The prime minister added, however, that the reference was ‘in notes that did not primarily target him, but others or other situations,’ and he was not on a list of suspects maintained by the main OCAD anti-terror assessment group.
Justice Minister Koen Geens defended the decision to grant the attacker prison leave, saying there was no reason to suspect this time would be a different from his earlier furloughs.
‘I don’t think those are mistakes,’ he said. ‘It is not a clear cut case of radicalisation – otherwise he would have been flagged by all services.’
However, this morning, a Belgian security source told Reuters that the attacker had converted to Islam while in detention and was under suspicion of radicalisation.
In Belgium, a prisoner’s inclusion on a state security list as a suspected radical is not automatically communicated to all police or the prison service, experts say.
The attacker’s profile drew concern about the risk of petty criminals, including those not from Muslim backgrounds, being inspired to Islamist violence while jailed.
Convicts have been behind several recent attacks in Europe. Hundreds of prisoners deemed radical by authorities are due to be released in the coming years, the Belgian parliament warned in a report late last year.
‘They come in as drug dealers and leave as Salafi jihadists,’ a security source said.
‘Is our system working when we see that these kind of people are running free?’ asked vice premier Alexander De Croo, echoing the thoughts of many in a nation where armed police and gun-toting soldiers still patrol the streets in the wake of the March 2016 attacks that left 32 people dead at the Brussels airport and subway system.
Tuesday’s attack happened outside a cafe in the eastern city of Liege when the assailant crept up on the two female officers from behind and stabbed them repeatedly….
The attacker shouted ‘Allahu akbar,’ the Arabic phrase for ‘God is great’, several times during spree before he was shot down by a group of police officers, magistrate Wenke Roggen said.
Ms Roggeen said the attack is being treated as terrorism given the way Herman acted, which she said resembled Islamic State calls to attack police with knives and steal their weapons.
Allied to this is the fact that he yelled ‘Allahu Akbar’, and had been in contact with radicalised people.
Justice Minister Koen Geens described the assailant as a repeat offender who had been incarcerated since 2003 and was due for release in two years….
Nour says
He’s not a Muslim. Gunman’s name is BENJAMIN HERMAN. There is a nefarious agenda to instill fear of anyone who utters the phrase. It’s a prayerful phrase to remind that, no matter what our concerns may be, God is greater than them.
Sebastia Theodosios,Jerusalem’s Orthodox Christian archbishop, said: “we Christian Palestinians also say Allahu Akbar”
Rarely says
What part of “converted to islam.” don’t you understand? Whatever religion he was before is irrelevant. Aside from breeding a despicably violent and hateful group from within, islam also attracts violent converts and through the religious tenets authorizes (or should I say “mandates”) the murder of non-believers.
But, of course, you know all this and are just trying to muddy the waters. If you do this often enough you may just get someone to believe you but chances are that anyone you could reach probably can’t read.
Ashley says
+1
Clarke says
Of course he was a muslim. The hostage was spared because she was a muslim. Christians are not famous for using the islamic war cry while committing acts of terror. Muslims have been doing it since muhammad.
gravenimage says
The dishonest Nour wrote:
He’s not a Muslim. Gunman’s name is BENJAMIN HERMAN. There is a nefarious agenda to instill fear of anyone who utters the phrase. It’s a prayerful phrase to remind that, no matter what our concerns may be, God is greater than them.
Sebastia Theodosios,Jerusalem’s Orthodox Christian archbishop, said: “we Christian Palestinians also say Allahu Akbar”
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Good lord, what crap. Benjamin Herman is a convert to Islam. Since Muslims despise Infidel law, it is rare for them to legally change their names–so when they are arrested, their legal names are whatever they were born with, rather than their Muslim names.
As for the Greek Orthodox Patriarchate of Jerusalem–whose name is *not* “Sebastia Theodosios” (Sebastia is a place)–he is a dhimmi who has supported Jihad terrorism against Israel. Arabic speaking Christians do use the word “Allah” for God, but *do not* yell “Allahu Akbar!”.
Even more ludicrous, of course, is Nour’s claim that Belgian Christians scream “Allahu Akbar!”–and do so while murdering people and taking hostages.
That she considers this threatening Jihad war cry to be “prayerful” shows just what Muslim “prayers” are so often all about–threatening Infidels. *Ugh*.
David M says
Converts to Islam like this creep are the worst type of Muslim, because they actually read the Islamic texts, unlike “moderates” who were just born into it & don’t have a clue. That’s why most converts are “radical”, ie actually follow the teachings. Note his dead shark eyes in the picture too, just like all the others.
christianblood says
Nour
The jihadist in Belgium is a convert to islam who spent years in prison studying and imbibing islam which made him turn against his own people and murder them in a fit of an islamic jihad attacks. He murdered a young man with a hammer a night before and then killed two police women and a passerby, 4 persons in total. After he went into school, he took a female cleaner a hostage and asked her if she was a muslim and if she was fasting during the Ramadan and she told him she was and he let her go.
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/may/30/belgian-gunman-killed-person-a-day-before-deadly-liege-attack
Carol the 1st says
It sounds like an official message/trend this year which translates something like:
1/ “Toe the line muslim since no matter what country you’re in don’t think you’re safe and can get casual and sneak away from us and our book of rules.”
and
2/ Screw you, host nation, Islam is here to stay and will emit a shit-storm if you protest and we’re here to demonstrate to you that your ‘democratically-elected’ politicians are under orders not to interfere significantly.”
In the Guardian article it mentions that Koen Geens, the Belgian justice minister, is “examining his conscience” over Herman’s release and has said:
“I feel primarily responsible because I have responsibility for prisons. Should this man have been released on prison leave? This is a difficult question and it deserves an examination of my conscience…For normal prison leave like this one, I would not want to reopen the debate because it’s really going to make people desperate in jail.”
Solution: In a sane world any jailbird with the unfortunate “opportunity” to pick up the Islamic magnum opus and who is then seen musing fondly over it should get no holidays in perpetuity.
christianblood says
@ Nour
Because of the teachings of the hateful supremacist islamic beliefs, muslims are crazily self-righteous and spiritually and morally blind. Islam has totally decimated the muslim’s self-awareness and because of it, most muslims have no or very little self-awareness. There is no golden rule in islam, no love for humanity in islam and no righteousness or decency or mercy in islam. Islam teaches, promotes, commands and authorizes hate, beheading, stoning, religious genocide, sexual slavery, child marriage, terrorism, discrimination, religious supremacism, violent jihadist activities and hateful warmongering. Islam is an evil, satanic cult full of hatred, ignorance, spiritual darkness, violence, crucifixions, burning-people-alive, amputations, stoning, beheading, flogging pple to death, suicide-bombing, wickedness, mass murder, honor-killing, throwing victims off high buildings, barbarism, cruelty, extreme brutality, wickedness, supremacism, bloodshed, jihad, assassinations, wife-beating, false beliefs, demonic practices, female genital mutilation, jealousy and death. islam and the islamists who practice its evil, satanic teachings are the purest forms of evil on planet Earth!
Wellington says
Keep posting here, Nour, at JW because in your own way, as with “Ibby,” you unwittingly discredit the very belief system you seek to exculpate.
Yes, the more a Muslim (or a dhimmi apologist for Islam) defends Mo’s warped creed, it only reveals (yet again) to the non-ignorant just how awful is the mendacity, stupidity and heinousness of Islam.
You know, there’s no way out for Islam AS LONG AS ignorance, mendacity, stupidity and vileness don’t succeed in the long run. Quite the allies you have there, Nour. Oh yeah, quite the allies.
Ann Marie says
Seriously? Did you think since his name wasn’t Arabic, we would say: “oh, never mind?” Just stop.. People are waking up.. Your propaganda doesn’t work here..
Carol the 1st says
Does the Christian Orthodox Archbishop stick his index finger out just like ISIS does?
Maximus says
Check his bank account – probably full of Saudi or Qatari money…
Notmoron says
Islam is the only cult that attracts criminals, because islam itself is CRIMINAL
gravenimage says
Yes–this is why there are so many converts to Islam among violent felons.
christianblood says
This convert to islam murdered four persons, one, a night before he killed two police woman and a passer by so in total he killed four infidels.
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-44299952
gravenimage says
Yes–horrifying, Christianblood.
ElderlyZionist says
“…in total he killed four infidels.”
“…her colleague Soraya Belkacemi…”
It sounds as if one of the murdered policewomen was of maghrebi background, possibly Muslim herself. Just paying attention to details.
christianblood says
ElderlyZionist
You are right. (Soraya Belkacemi) sounds as North African name.
Sorry for those two poor ladies! Ultimately, it is the political-correctness
and the total cluelessness of their leaders that caused their untimely deaths.
gravenimage says
ElderlyZionist–as you know–Jihadists are fine with murdering any Muslims who work with Infidels, as well.
Carol the 1st says
GI says “Jihadists are fine with murdering any Muslims who work with Infidels, as well.”
That should really sway the muslim unemployment statistics! Why don’t our leaders tell us these things? Guess they plead ignorance.
Stacy Girl says
Try, but it’s not a nice try.
Ashley says
Meanwhile, note the three photos of weeping police officers in the MailOnline article. I understand their mourning the deaths of their colleagues, but in public it would be preferable for police officers, rather than dissolving in tears, to project a steely resolve. Jihadis in Belgium, and there are many, will see their tears as weakness, and step up their activities. But steely resolve appears to be in extremely short supply in today’s multicultural Europe.
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I’m sorry, Robert, but was this really necessary? I’ve seen many, many clips of police officers overcome by grief when paying tribute to a fallen comrade. I do NOT believe it projects weakness, just humanness.
gravenimage says
Belgium: Muslim who murdered three had appeared in reports on “radicalism,” still allowed to take a leave from prison
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Suicidal insanity.
Crusades Were Right says
Every time I come across one of these stories about the authorities “watching” people, but doing nothing to stop them, I’m reminded of that Simpsons episode in which Bart employs Milhouse as a night-watchman to guard a disused factory he bought for a dollar (or something like that), but just lets it fall to pieces:
Bart: Milhouse! You were supposed to be the night watchman!
Milhouse: I WAS watching. I saw the whole thing. First it started falling over, then it fell over.
Chand says
So this white European criminal, drug addict, scumbag decides to become a Muslim? What does it mean? Nothing. A criminal scumbag will still be one.
Many read the Koran and want to lead decent lives, follow the laws, serve society and fellow beings.
So what is the difference if a killer reads the Koran and kills, reads the Bible and kills, reads the Gita and kills, reads Buddhist texts and kills, takes PCP and kills, drinks hooch and kills, pledge allegiance to some Middle eastern death cult like ISIS and kills, finds meaninglessness in life and kills, gets brain damaged and kills……….? He is still a killer.
Why is it the fault of Islam? It is then equally the fault of chemicals in his brain, his damaged brain cells, his past, etc.
What does it mean ‘Islam attracts and accept criminals’? Islam is not an organization. There are terrible things out there, including the deadly cult called ISIS. If one opts for that then whose fault is it? The individual is to be blamed. ISIS is un-Islamic. Benjamin Hoffman did not become a Muslim. He became a cowardly killer, hoping for salvation.
WPM says
The Koran promises salvation by murdering unbelievers ,no other major religion Buddhist ,Christian ,Jew ,or Hundis in their holy books make that promise .If you can find any reference in any of their holy books that promises salvation threw murder please post.
Carol the 1st says
It’s the rule of GIGO Chand. Psychos and borderlines have to watch their mental intake:
GIGO (garbage in, garbage out) is a concept common to computer science and mathematics: the quality of output is determined by the quality of the input. So, for example, if a mathematical equation is improperly stated, the answer is unlikely to be correct.
gravenimage says
Apologist for islamic savagery Chand wrote:
So this white European criminal, drug addict, scumbag decides to become a Muslim? What does it mean? Nothing. A criminal scumbag will still be one.
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What rot. Islam is enormously attractive to violent felons, because it does not just condone but *sacralizes* most of what the civilized world considers criminal–pedophilia, rape, robbery, kidnapping, and murder. About the only things it *doesn’t* condone is the use of alcohol.
This is why Muslims have been so successful recruiting in prisons.
More:
Many read the Koran and want to lead decent lives, follow the laws, serve society and fellow beings.
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This is only true in the case of Muslims who don’t follow their creed–which includes waging violent Jihad–or at the very least supporting and funding it. Only lax Muslims can be decent and law-abiding people in the civilized world.
More:
So what is the difference if a killer reads the Koran and kills, reads the Bible and kills, reads the Gita and kills, reads Buddhist texts and kills, takes PCP and kills, drinks hooch and kills, pledge allegiance to some Middle eastern death cult like ISIS and kills, finds meaninglessness in life and kills, gets brain damaged and kills……….? He is still a killer.
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The Qur’an *teaches* Muslims that they should kill Infidels who do not submit to Islam–there is nothing similar in the Bible.
Also, note that the dishonest Chand is pretending that ISIS has nothing to do with Islam–even though it was founded by a high-ranking Islamic scholar and founded a Caliphate entirely based on the tenets of Islam.
More:
Why is it the fault of Islam? It is then equally the fault of chemicals in his brain, his damaged brain cells, his past, etc.
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Not every killer is Muslim, certainly–but Islam, as noted, preaches and sacralizes such behavior.
More:
What does it mean ‘Islam attracts and accept criminals’? Islam is not an organization. There are terrible things out there, including the deadly cult called ISIS.
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Islam is quite consistent in its teaching of violence, and this is followed by most Muslim clerics. Criminals flock to Islam–as noted, this is why prisons are such fertile grounds for conversion to Islam.
I doubt that Chand actually has any problem with this–it is just rather embarassing to his pet creed if Infidels know this.
And–again–he is pretending that ISIS has nothing to do with Islam.
Can he explain which tenets of ISIS are anything but orthodox Islam? Of course not.
More:
If one opts for that then whose fault is it? The individual is to be blamed.
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This is true–I blame anyone who–without coercion–converts to Islam for its sacralizing of violence.
The idea that hence there is no problem with the creed itself–or those who preach it–is, of course, absurd.
More:
ISIS is un-Islamic.
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In what way is ISIS un-Islamic? Waiting…
More:
Benjamin Hoffman did not become a Muslim. He became a cowardly killer, hoping for salvation.
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Who is Benjamin Hoffman? Does Chand mean Jihadist Benjamin Herman? Most likely.
What could possibly have given Benjamin Herman the idea that murdering for Islam would bring him salvation? Why, nothing but the texts and tenets of Islam itself, and the model of the vicious “Prophet”.
In fact, Islam holds that the *only* sure way to ensure entrance into paradise is to wage violent Jihad against the Infidels.
Tom says
Islam radicalizes !!! There is no other answer to why many who become devout followers of Islam turn to terror and murder as their way to gaining paradise.
If there is another, clear answer, then please tell us what it is. No conjecture, no platitudes, just facts to support your conclusion will suffice.
Richard Courtemanche says
When politicians behave like politicians and deceive their constituents… A solution coming to a neighbourhood near you
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