“The offending statements included ‘I am a Muslim and I truly testify that there is no god but Allah. I have seen Allah, have you?’ and ‘If a fake Muslim cleric has entered the political realm, then Quranic verses are not absolute truth anymore.'”
From the looks of these statements, Bahari seems to be a devout Muslim who may simply have been speaking imprecisely, claiming an experience of Allah’s presence as having “seen” Allah, and apparently declaring it impossible for a “fake Muslim cleric” to enter “the political realm,” not saying that the Qur’an was untrue.
Nonetheless, he gets five years in prison for “insulting Islam” and “spreading hate speech.” Note the use of the term “hate speech.” All over the West the idea is becoming accepted that there is a readily and objectively identifiable category of speech that is classified as “hate speech,” and must be criminalized. The danger of this idea is that “hate speech” is actually only what those with the power to define it say what it is. The very concept of “hate speech” is simply a tool of the powerful to silence speech they dislike. As we see in this case.
“Amnesty International urges govt to release blasphemy convict,” by Gemma Holliani Cahya, Jakarta Post, May 8, 2018 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
Amnesty International has urged the government to release Alnoldy Bahari, a farmer from Pandeglang regency in Banten, who was sentenced to five years in prison and ordered to pay Rp 100 million (US$ 7,150) by Pandeglang District Court on April 30 for blasphemy.
In November last year, Alnoldy was reported by his neighbors who accused him of insulting Islam and spreading hate speech on Facebook.
The offending statements included “I am a Muslim and I truly testify that there is no god but Allah. I have seen Allah, have you?” and “If a fake Muslim cleric has entered the political realm, then Quranic verses are not absolute truth anymore”.
He was arrested in December 2017 and charged with blasphemy under Article 156(a) of the Criminal Code, and Article 28(2) of the Electronic Information and Transaction (ITE) Law….
Bev says
This ideology that goes by the name of Islam, is a cancer on the planet. There will never be peace as long as one group’s goal to get to heaven is to kill for Allah.
james collins says
Ah…. must protect the “holy” quran from any truths said against it
balam says
Every thing UNHOLY is HOLY in ISLAM!!!
Japetto Danatelli says
The very concept of “hate speech” is simply a tool of the powerful to silence speech they dislike.
So true, this has become a tyranny under which we all live now. The fascist left has aligned themselves with islam’s conquering agenda. If you stand in defense of human rights against religious thuggery then you’re a hater and a bigot, doesn’t matter that it’s a complete lie designed to defame good people.
Hearing about unjust arrests like this one used to seem like news from another planet. But now the same theocratic madness threatens our own liberty here in the West. Speaking as an average layperson, I find it surreal that western society is so willing to forsake human rights and patriotic duty for a retarded, violent religion. It was bad enough to hear about these injustices when they occurred in some far off land, but it’s insufferable that we must bear it ourselves. The more we try to help muslims the more they hate us, the more we try to appease them the more they demand. We’ve had so many good people in our own nations, like Tommy Robinson, Anne Waters, Gilders, Spencer, Geller and Paul Weston, get harassed and threatened like they were enemies of the state simply for defending human rights. It outrages me to think of how Tommy R. has been so mistreated by his own government while returning ISIS terrorists get support and understanding. And listen, if this madness can happen in Britain then we know it can happen in America too. It’s coming. Twenty years ago Alnoldy Bahari wouldn’t have meant much in the course of a busy day, now he’s the prime example of what we face ourselves. If we don’t work to stop islam’s destruction of freedom then we all face looking out from behind those same bars. Islam is a violent mental illness of the spiritual and moral kind to me. Nobody deserves jail for speaking against it. Instead they should be lauded as a defender of rationality and good morals.
If we all do our own little part maybe we can stem the bigotry and violence islam represents. I’m not a bigot for saying this, I’m against bigotry and that’s why I’m against islam.
Japetto Danatelli says
CORRECTION: I meant Wilders, not “Gilders.” Good grief.
Guy Forester says
That’s OK. What are a few spoonerisms between friends. I still support Weert Gilders 🙂
Japetto Danatelli says
LOL, I laughed out loud over that one. Thanks. 🙂
Garfield says
+1
Mari For says
I am with you 100%
mortimer says
“The very concept of “hate speech” is simply a tool of the powerful to silence speech they dislike.” – Robert Spencer
This is a brilliant synopsis of this severe punishment for making a political comment … no doubt, farmer Alnoldy Bahari was complaining about a sleazy local politician in a sly way, thinking he would not be punished if he did not name names.
This is criminalization of political opinion using religion to accomplish the goal.
The Indonesian elites are warning the largest Muslim country that no political or religious comment will go unpunished if it is not THE PARTY LINE OF THE RULERS.
Indonesia is under complete political censorship. Sharia law can be manipulated to punish the innocent. That is one of the reasons why discriminatory SHARIA is OPPOSED to human rights and civil liberties.
Sharia law KILLS HUMAN RIGHTS.
duh swami says
Islam is the religion of space aliens…neither Allah or Gabriel are humans…Space aliens are controlling the behavior of a billion plus humans…
Don’t forget the book, ‘How to serve Man’, is a cook book…
Thonky says
Must have taken you a long time to think of that.
Mari For says
Gabriel is an archangel in Christianity. Historically Muhammad was a preacher before Islam, his successors invented all kinds of false legends to legitimise their beliefs and wishes to control their people. They used the Scriptures of the Judeo-Nazareans who endoctrinated them so they could help them wage war against the Judeo-Christians. It took 200 years after the prophet’s death to produce their Koran and come up with close to 600,000 hadiths (actions and sayings of M’hd). To claim their Book was the truth, they were obliged to say our Bible twisted the stories. Such a joke on their part. Sometime soon there will be a free book PDF online which the author is now translating into English and wants spread all over detailing that Islam originally came from Christianity and is only a manipulation. Thanks to Robert Spencer for this site which tells it as it is.
Westman says
It sounds eerily like the Salem Witch Trials land grab. The complaint about this farmer “insulting Islam” or “hate speech” likely came from another farmer; a farmer with an eye on expansion.
Bad laws like those against “hate speech” are weapons in the hands of organizations and individuals with political and economic aspirations. Organizations like CAIR, SPLCm and leftist groups will claim they want “hate speech” laws for mental protection when their actual intent is to have a weapon to suppress opposition and force compliance to their demands.
Short of natural wealth in the ground(oil), Shariah and its imitations as national law, create an atmosphere of paranoia and distrust that suppress economic growth and investment. Winston Churchill saw it clearly as a result of Islam and its constrictions. It is no wonder that millions of economic immigrants are flowing to Europe.
gravenimage says
Also quite likely, Westman. Muslims use accusations of “blasphemy” to steal land, businesses, and even daughters–both from Infidels and from other Muslims.
Mari For says
Exactly.
duh swami says
The Quran is a dark and evil fairy tale, whispered into the ear of a psychotic Arab, by an incoherent angel named Gabriel…but, I’m preaching to the choir…have an Allah free day…
Mari For says
Actually no… the legend of Jibril (Gabriel) was added to legitimise their claims lol. The historical Muhammad was most likely not what his successors said he was. He was a preacher.
MikeyParks says
If Islam weren’t so loathsome it wouldn’t be so easy to mock and insult. Did the Muzzies ever think of that? How about simply becoming likable?
Granddaddy says
Take a good look, folks. This is what’s coming to America. All we have to do is nothing.
Rarely says
Hmmm. Is saying you don’t like Hate Speech Laws Hate Speech itself?
Rarely says
Perhaps questioning whether the denouncing of Hate Speech Laws is Hate speech itself is Hate Speech itself.
You are getting very close to the thin ice Mr. Spencer.
Jay says
All Australians know about Indonesia is Bali, Bali is the exception rather than the rule. If they knew what goes on in the rest of Indonesia, they would be outraged especially the rampant FGM among the Muslim population.
Jay says
Correct, all a lot of Australians know about Indonesia is Bali.
Ibrahim itace muhammed says
The mithraist christian rascal deserve it. mithraist christianity as product of satan (holy spirit) cannot survive without insults and lies, because it is exposed as paganic inspired by the satan the father of evils and lies. Fools!!
Ashley says
Yawn…
gravenimage says
Ibrahim itace muhammed is a moron–the victim here is actually Muslim–and it sounds like rather a devout one.
Just more proof that Islam eats its own.
Lydia Church says
Typo above, allow me to correct:
The mithraist muslim rascal deserved it. mithraist islam is a product of satan (allah) and cannot survive without insults and lies, violence, torture, murder, abuse, and oppression, because it is exposed as pagan and inspired by satan the father of evil and lies.
muslim Fools!!
You’re welcome itm!
: D
Haaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
boakai ngombu says
a fine redo, Lydia.
Lavéritétriomphera says
@Ibrahim itace muhammed,
And Muslims who are servants of Baal Moloch, continue to persecute people who do not share their views.
gravenimage says
Indonesia: Man gets five years prison for “insulting Islam” and “spreading hate speech”
…………………….
More proof that you don’t even have to “insult Allah” to “insult Allah” in Dar-al-Islam…
Lydia Church says
Only a false religion would be afraid of criticism and the exposing of the truth, like islam is!
The devil hates Christians because we are the true believers and that is why he has his servants persecute and martyr us all over the planet! And increasingly so!
Matthieu Baudin says
Yes, ‘hate speech’ readily serves as the ‘catch all’ clause.
UNCLE VLADDI says
WE NEED A LOT MORE OF THIS SORT OF THING!
If and when you consider islam to be a religion, you must agree with it’s main tenet: that God is a violent murderer who wants his muslim tribe to violently conquer the world by extorting, enslaving, and murdering all the non-muslim humans, right?
At WORST, all REAL religions only say:
“Obey our silly rules, or GOD (/’the gods’) will get you!”
…but ONLY islam says:
“Obey our silly rules, or WE will get you (‘for god’)!”
A forced ‘Faith!’ ISN’T a “Faith!” at all – it’s only extortion, and extortion is always a CRIME.
Bottom line: Muslims must be told straight out, unequivocally: “If you decide to believe in “allah,” you have declared yourself a criminal, and so must be arrested, indicted, tried and convicted. Your confession of “faith” in your crime-god will help us to do so.”