It is easier to hurl wild accusation than to face the enormity of what the Obama administration has done in the Iran nuclear deal to endanger Americans, Israelis and all free people. Find out just how disastrous the Iran nuke deal really is in my book The Complete Infidel’s Guide to Iran.
“Obama’s National Security Council Spokesman Accuses Trump, Israelis of ‘Cooking Up’ Intel,” by David Steinberg, PJ Media, May 1, 2018:
Tommy Vietor, the co-host of “Pod Save America” and founder of CrookedMedia.com, was the spokesman for former President Barack Obama’s National Security Council from 2011-2013.
Today, Vietor tweeted what appears to be an accusation that Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President Donald Trump falsified the trove of evidence about Iran’s covert nuclear weapons program which Netanyahu presented to the public yesterday.
The evidence Netanyahu presented — more than 100,000 copies of original documents taken from a secret Iranian warehouse — revealed that Iran had concealed a tremendous amount of information about its nuclear program from the public.
Not only did the evidence prove Iran has violated the nuclear deal (JCPOA) it had signed with Obama, it proved that Iran has been lying to IAEA inspectors and the international community for over two decades.
As a member of the media, Vietor has long been a cheerleader for the JCPOA. And Vietor has maintained this stance even after his NSC co-worker Ben Rhodes — the former Deputy National Security Advisor — admitted in 2016 that he lied to members of the media to win public support for the JCPOA….
jihad3tracker says
WE CAN SEE HOW PETRIFIED OBAMA AND HIS AMERICA-HATING CIRCLE ARE —- by this push against the recent revelations about Iranian concealment.
Westman says
From my perspective, I see the liberals are absolutely frightened that they might be forced to pay for freedom with their own blood. So they delude themselves that the good times will continue if they can muzzle the realists and apply appeasement to foreign enemies. Historically, that has only extended the time to the next conflict and often increased its cost.
No one, thinking logically, can find a path forward that does not involve military conflict with Iran unless the Iranians, themselves, overthrow the Mullahs. If the Mullahs remain in control, it is not a matter of if, rather, it is only a matter of when, the hostilities begin and the liberals show their cowardice in demonstrations. Perhaps they will emigrate to Canada. 😉 Of course they will blame Israel for not submitting to annihilation and dodge any military draft. After all, their life is composed of entitlements just by virtue of its existence.
mortimer says
Agree with Westman. They feel entitled. They feel that their failure to defend freedom is somehow ‘noble’.
They feel that their NAIVETY is ‘respectful’, not seeing they are being duped and mocked behind their backs.
Despite all Obama’s GROVELLING before savage dictators, they still wiped their shoes on images of him.
Westman says
Sadly, big non-defense business and banking are no better. They don’t want the party to end and are as much a part of appeasement as the liberals. And like the liberals, if they can’t avoid war, the moneyed interests are quite adamant that others will be the cannon fodder. I think this may be the real source of the split in the GOP – unwilingness to sacrifice for the future.
gravenimage says
Westman, there are also a lot of Liberals who are just in utter denial. They don’t think that Iran is really a danger to us–or North Korea, or anyone else. They think everyone is basically just like them–except for the mean old Republicans, of course. I have a lot of neighbors who are like this–otherwise intelligent and decent people with their heads completely in the sand.
Westman says
Yup. Liberal motto: Eat, drink, and be merry, for tomorrow we dine again. The nice old man with the beard and donut hat is saying something like “meth to America”. Cool, dude…
Scott says
This is what they have in common with the Rand Paul foreign policy wing of the Republican Party. Chief spokesman are Alex Jones and Pat Buchanan.
J D S says
If it ever comes to war concerning Iran maybe the Israelis should be gifted with the task…Would that be ISLAMOPHOBIC?
SweetOlBob says
And now Obama and his minions will gather together and just like the arrested criminals of any big city, loudly exclaim “I dindo nuffin!”
Sarah says
While the entire world grapples with these new revelations about Iran, which while shocking, are hardly surprising, I can’t help but wonder at the silence from Obama.
I guess he’s still off, travelling the world with his grasping wife, desperately trying to hoover up every possible cent from ‘public speaking engagements’.
Glad to see he’s got his priorities squared away, as usual. (sarc)
Baucent says
Another day another golf course and paid speaking appointment.
WPM says
Obama is on the anti-America pro -Islamic world tour, last I hard he was telling Hindus in Indian they do not appreciate their Moslems ! Let me see his young novelist friend {with whose parents have made large donation to the Dems} with no world experience beyond writing PC pap novels is running a rumor mill with no facts to back it up to undermine America foreign policy. The JV of presidents with his JV team mates the garbage they keep dumping on America even after they left office. The president of Israel has over 100,000 pages of facts to show how the Iran nuke deal was a barrel of lies .Trump knows its in America,s best interest to make this deal null and void .
Lebel says
““I cannot bear Netanyahu, he’s a liar,” Former French President, Nicholas Sarkozy (himself of jewish origin but still somehow anti-semitic for this statement)
source: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-netanyahu-sarkozy/sarkozy-tells-obama-netanyahu-is-a-liar-idUSTRE7A720120111108
Here is some additional contextual data on this guy from the dhimmi guardian:
Leaked cables show Netanyahu’s Iran bomb claim contradicted by Mossad – https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/feb/23/leaked-spy-cables-netanyahu-iran-bomb-mossad
gravenimage says
Apparently Lebel is one of the few who thinks that Obama and Sarkozy sneering at the Israeli leader together on what they thought were closed mikes is actually a good thing. Notice they do not bother to cite a single thing that Netanyahu was actually dishonest about. No surprise there.
As for the Mossad leaks, Mossad actually affirms that Iran is enriching uranium, but has not built a bomb yet. That is, in fact, exactly what Netanyahu is saying–that this is what Iran is moving towards.
Of course, Lebel wants us to continue to enable the Islamic Republic of Iran until it is too late.
Lebel says
I think we can be fairly certain that this was an honest moment. They did not know they were being listened to.
The dishonesty comes on when the mike are one.
Of course you know this but support for Israel trumps all, including reason.
gravenimage says
I didn’t say that Obama and Sarkozy were being dishonest in their patent dislike of Netanyahu–just that they didn’t bother to point to anything where they actually considered him to be dishonest.
I think in this case “dishonest” more just meant they did not like him.
mgoldberg says
This has nothing to do with support for Israel- but nice deflection.
It does have to do with reason which was the point of the 100,000 documents to be viewed by others, not some globaist heads of state who ‘hate’ another head of stated.
Where does ‘reason’ come in when you offer that as proof of anything- except of course deflection
Terry Gain says
Lebel
It is not reasonable to allow Iran to develop nuclear bombs. It is as insane as insane can be.
Alex says
Jewish is written with a capital J, but of course this was intentional, so Sarkozy may not be antisemitic, but you definitely are. Sarkozy is of mixed origin – not only Jewish, but also Hungarian and what not. And noone ever accused him of being antisemitic. However he himself does have some problems in the honesty department, to say the least. Libya affair and election financing debacle comes to mind. So excuse me, oh avid Grauniad reader, if his accusations of Bibi being a liar are taken with a grain of salt.
Lebel says
Yes of course, as I have stated, any criticism of a jewish person is anti-semitic.
Thanks for confirming the insanity that reigns here
Wellington says
And thank you, Lebel, for the deceit that often reigns here. You are “superb” in this regard.
Look, Lebel, you know or should know that every major Islamic school of theology to this very day, whether Sunni or Shiite, for instance the four main Sunni schools, i.e., the Hanafi, Hanbali, Shafi and Maliki, indisputably assert that any criticism of Islam, the Koran or Mohammed is to be met with severe bodily punishment or death. These same schools to the present also dogmatically contend that any Muslim who converts to another religion should be killed. After all, Mo himself said, “He who changes his Islamic faith, kill him.” {Bukhari Hadith 9.84.57}.
For those of us here at JW who comprehend in effect that Islam is the proto-type for Nazism, you will not be able to fool any of us. Not me, not gravenimage, not mortimer, not Kepha, not jihad3tracker, not Ashley, not Angemon, not Western Canadian, not Malcolm, not Daniel Triplett, not Davegreybeard, not Ray Jarman, not Frank Anderson, not dda, et al.
Yes, Islam’s time is up because till now it has been able to slip through the cracks of history and pose as something good—though it most certainly is not. But no longer because the more light that is shined on Islam, the more wretched it can only appear. Perhaps even you are not foolish enough not to realize this. Close call on this “last one” since foolhardiness and deceit are written all over you.
Delenda est Islam. Way overdue. Have a nice day.
gravenimage says
Hear, hear, Wellington!
Alex says
If you mean your own insanity (like pretending not to be antisemitic while intentionally writing “jewish” without a capital J, AGAIN and AFTER it was already pointed out to you), then yeah, confirmed it is. Also, you did not “criticize”, you just smeared and deflected, so no points here for you as well.
The crusader says
Anyone with a half brain knew this was a disaster from beginning.
gravenimage says
Obama’s National Security Council spokesman accuses Trump, Israelis of “cooking up” intel
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If you can’t trust those screaming “Death to America!”, who can you trust? sarc/off
Here’s more on this tool from earlier this year:
“Tommy Vietor just encapsulated team Obama’s Iran delusions”
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/tommy-vietor-just-encapsulated-team-obamas-iran-delusions
Joe says
He didn’t name his company, CrookedMedia, for nothing.
PMP says
Come on!!! Really? Obama is an avowed muslim. Iran is a muslim state. Can we all say Taq’ya boys and girls. Obama and his entire entourage are pathological liars. Obama is not a legal US Citizen.
Bibi, historically is an incredibly honest and honourable human being. He has more credibility in his fingernail parings than Obama, the Clinton’s and every single leftist on the planet combined. And once the EU has sifted through the Mossad’s documents, his credibility will be further enhanced.
Janwaar Bibi says
Bibi, historically is an incredibly honest and honourable human being. He has more credibility in his fingernail parings than Obama, the Clinton’s and every single leftist on the planet combined.
You do realize he and his wife are about to be indicted for fraud and bribery by – wait for it – the Israeli state? No doubt this is a plot by antisemites in the Israeli government. This whole “OMG, OMG Iran has nukes” is an attempt by two corrupt swine – Trump and Netanyahu – to divert attention from their sleaze ranging from trysts with porn stars to bribery and coverups.
I used to admire the probity of Western leaders but now you guys are just a bunch of banana republics with nukes.
https://www.jpost.com/Israel-News/Indictment-for-Prime-Minister-Netanyahus-wife-could-be-imminent-549110
gravenimage says
Another thug who apparently prefers the horrors of Shari’ah to the free West. *Ugh*.
Janwaar Bibi says
Can you address my point about Bibi and wife being on the verge of being indicted by the Israeli authorities for bribery and corruption? Writing *ugh* is not an argument.
One does not have to love sharia to believe Bibi is a serial liar and is deeply corrupt or to believe Trump is an idiot and a sleazeball. Tillerson apparently stated publicly to his staff that Trump is an idiot. Is he a sharia thumper too? How about the authorities in Israel? Are they sharia thumpers also?
I have no idea why Mr. Spencer, a man I respect deeply for his erudition and courage,is making common cause with the likes of Bibi and Trump. It reduces his credibility.
Wellington says
Seconded, gravenimage. And Janwaar Bibi on another thread showed his true colors by “joining” the kick-America-first crowd.
This person is a fool at best, something far worse than foolish at worst. My God, such people are all over the place nowadays. Like Janwaar Bibi.
Janwaar Bibi says
Note that the Duke of Wellington does not address Bibi’s impending indictment by the Israeli authorities on charges of bribery and corruption nor does he say what that indictment means for Bibi being “an incredibly honest and honorable human being.”
I oppose sharia. I detest Islam. But I do not crawl in the gutter with the likes of Bibi and Trump to oppose Islam and sharia. Mr. Spencer and the Duke on the other hand don’t seem to have such scruples. I don’t care about hizzoner but it is sad to see Mr. Spencer, who I still respect greatly, traffic in these venomous lies.
Wellington says
I did not address the impending charges, Janwaar Bibi, because they were a diversion by you to direct attention from the assertions against Iran made by Netanyahu.
Besides, a person is innocent until proven guilty and, even assuming Netanyahu is guilty here, why did you not address the substance of Netanyahu’s castigation of the Iranian regime? Yeah, why not?
You’re a deceiver, Janwaar Bibi, but, go ahead, and prove me wrong. So far, you haven’t. Not even close.
And I have noticed the more you are challenged the more you stoop to puerile insult, as examples, with Ronald Reagan on a different thread and with me on this one. Invariably a sign, you know, that you’re dealing with a person out of arguments. Wonder if you get even this. I’d bet against you here, not with you.
Your turn.
gravenimage says
Netanyahu is suspected of receiving unreported gifts and of working with the publisher of a newspaper to gain more positive coverage.
Are any of these suspicions accurate? I don’t know. To date, no charges have ever been filed.
The claim that Netanyahu has invented a case against Iran in order to distract from any issues he has at home is entirely unsubstantiated.
Many have suspected that Iran is continuing to develop nukes–probably now at an accellerated rate–and Iran itself has done little to counter this, continuing to threaten America and Israel and the rest of the West.
More from Janwaar Bibi:
I oppose sharia. I detest Islam. But I do not crawl in the gutter with the likes of Bibi and Trump to oppose Islam and sharia.
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Even if the claims against Netanyahu *are* accurate–which is *far* from proven–the idea that Janwaar Bibi would rather accept the absolute horrors of Jihad and Shari’ah–including wiping Israel off the map, as the Mullahs have repeatedly threatened–rather than see them opposed by two men who may be somewhat flawed is just bizarre if true.
Personally, I find Trump rather crude at times–something I have never personally liked. But if I were to therefore reject his trying to keep us safe from Jihad this would not be a moral stance–rather, it would be *just the opposite*.
PMP says
That’s right. Guilty until proven innocent. So typical of you and your muslim loving ilk. Obviously you read the JPost, another CNN wannabe leftist rag.
Janwaar Bibi says
For the Duke of Wellington:
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/larison/the-trump-white-houses-lies-about-iran/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/apr/30/netanyahu-accuses-iran-cheating-nuclear-deal
Heinonen, the former chief inspector of the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) said his department first saw the documentation that Netanyahu presented in 2005. The safeguards department that Heinonen ran came to the conclusion that the evidence of weapon design work known as the Amad project was credible, but that substantial work on the project ceased in 2003. Heinonen gave a classified briefing on Amad to the IAEA board in 2008.
After watching Netanyahu’s presentation, Heinonen said: “I just saw a lot of pictures I had seen before.”
“Some of the images that we saw I briefed to the board in closed session in February 2008,” Heinonen said. He added that the IAEA did not see the full archive of Amad documentation, but was given the most important evidence. The IAEA made public some of its evidence on Iran’s past nuclear weapons work in 2011. It found that some research work had continued after 2003, but found no evidence of such research activities after 2009.
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Your next move: dismiss this as being from the Guardian even though they are quoting the IAEA. The IAEA is the organization that asserted correctly in 2002/2003 that there was no evidence Saddam still possessed weapons of mass destruction even though your man Netanyahu and president Bush the Lesser were lying through their teeth about that.
Wellington says
Janwaar Bibi: I put zero trust in the IAEA. For the record, even a stopped clock is right twice in a 24 hour period.
And also, for the record, I noticed you have still not addressed what I have pointed out more than once, i.e., that no major intelligence agency before the US invasion of Iraq in March of 2003 thought anything but that Saddam Hussein was not coming clean about his WMDs. I also have noticed that you have not addressed another point of mine, to wit, that SH was regularly violating the truce terms of the 1991 armistice, for instance firing on British and American jets on virtually a daily basis over the two no-fly zones over Iraq. Also, you seemed so concerned about SH harming his own people, including with WMDs, but when Bush invaded Iraq in 2003 to put an end to the mad reign of SH, all of a sudden the US is the bully. Uh-huh.
And can you cease with the sophomoric insults (e.g., “Duke of Wellington”)? It doesn’t help your case, you know, and just makes you look childish. Grow up.
gravenimage says
Janwaar Bibi’s pretending that the IAEA is affirming that Iran is not developing nuclear weapons is *entirely false*:
“‘While the Agency continues to verify the non-diversion of declared nuclear material at the nuclear facilities and [locations outside facilities (where nuclear material is customarily used)] declared by Iran under its Safeguards Agreement, as Iran is not providing the necessary cooperation, including by not implementing its Additional Protocol, the Agency is unable to provide credible assurance about the absence of undeclared nuclear material and activities in Iran, and therefore to conclude that all nuclear material in Iran is in peaceful activities.'”
https://thebulletin.org/iran-and-bomb-legal-standards-iaea-0
Janwaar Bibi says
Gravenimage, Thank you for the quote and the link. I was puzzled by the quote since it contradicted the IAEA’s response to Netanyahu’s charges that I linked to, so I went and looked at the article you got the quote from. You probably did not notice that the article is dated October 30, 2012. The JPCOA was signed on July 14, 2015.
In short, you are using a report from before the JPCOA was signed to make it seem like this is a recent report. Bibi and Trump are doing this deliberately to spread their lies. I will give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you did not see the date on the report.
Wellington, I think you and I need to agree to disagree, as they say. In his speech at the UN, Colin Powell laid out whatever evidence the US and UK claimed they had. We know now that he was reluctant to make that speech, that at one point during his briefing before the speech, he threw his briefing papers into the air and said that he was not going to “read that crap” or something like that, and that today, he says that that speech at the UN is a “lasting blot on his record.” Had it been an honest mistake, there is no reason for him to feel that way.
Had the US and UK had any evidence, they could have given it to the IAEA, the IAEA would have investigated it, and Saddam would have been caught red-handed. Hans Blix, who was in charge of the IAEA investigation, was asked about this and he said everything that the US and UK gave him turned out to be rubbish. Unless one has an axe to grind, the only conclusion is that the US and UK lied through their teeth. to wage war.
Power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely. The US has enjoyed absolute power since the fall of the Soviet Union, and it is now absolutely corrupt, killing people all over the world and destroying its own economy in the process. Those whom the gods wish to destroy they first make mad. I no longer recognize this country that I have admired for most of my life, and it is particularly sad to see what is happening to blue-collar Americans. Good night.
https://www.nytimes.com/2005/09/09/politics/powell-calls-his-un-speech-a-lasting-blot-on-his-record.html
gravenimage says
Well, Janwaar Bibi is right about one thing–I try to be scrupulous with dating articles, but I missed the date on this piece (it had another date on the page, separate from that of the article itself).
He can see that Iran is blocking IAEA inspections, though:
“Why Washington is Raging After IAEA Blocked From Iran’s Military Sites”
https://sputniknews.com/middleeast/201708311056941936-iran-blocks-military-nuclear-inspection/
(And this article is from August of last year)
The idea that the IAEA can confirm that Iran has no nuclear program under these conditions is, of course, ludicrous.
I doubt that Janwaar Bibi cares, though–he believes that America opposing the horrors of Jihad is “corrupt”, but that Iran screaming for the destruction of the US and Israel is just fine? Now *that* is madness.
AleX says
@anwar
Marxist school of commentators for RT.
Antisemitic at the level of the protocols of ‘elders of Sion’ type.
You won’t be able to gather any brownie points here by expressing your thuggish, superficial wishful thinking.
There is no novelty or signs of progress in your discourse.
souare says
Which of these do you admire?
http://www.ruthlessreviews.com/21031/great-cocksmen-american-presidency-bill-clinton/
gravenimage says
What is this off-topic stupidity about?
Carolyne says
The EU will never admit Netanyahu is right. They would willingly (And likely will) go to their graves at the hands of Iran rather than admit it. Their goal is the complete Islamization of Europe and the world. Those stupid little gnomes in Brussels and Vienna don’t understand that the first thing which will happen when they reach their desired goal is that they will be killed by the barbarians whom they admitted into their homes. Stupid.
Sarah says
You know what amuses me the most out of all of this? How Iran is constantly braying threats about how they’re going to annihilate Israel.
Israel was able to get their hands on an astonishing amount of documents that were probably as highly classified as they could get, within the Iranian government. Not only did they get their hands on the documents, but they got them out of Iran and into Israel without being caught.
Which also speaks to the level of incompetence inside the Iranian government to protect information and a location that were seriously top-secret and that were vital to Iran’s future plans. Not very effective security, intelligence or counter-intelligence from Iran, there.
And of course, let us not forget that five times now, the Islamic world has done its level best to try and annihilate Israel with war. Multiple nations have banded together and thrown everything they had at Israel. Each time, Israel beat them back and won. And now, Israel is stronger than ever, today.
So tell me again, how Iran believes that it is capable of annihilating Israel? At this stage, Iran couldn’t competently organize a root in a brothel, let alone bring the apocalypse to an entire nation, one which has repeatedly proven that it is capable of literally running rings around Iran and its capabilities.
Now, there are some really nasty little questions that really must be posted at Obama, Kerry and Co. Because there are really only two options here. Either Obama and his cronies knew full well, the extent of the Israeli intelligence on Iran’s nuclear capabilities and chose to plough ahead with their own toxic ‘deal’ with the Iranians – which is arguably malfeasance at the least and treason at the worst.
Or, the Israelis didn’t trust Obama and Co with the intelligence they had gathered on Iran. If Israel is competent enough to gather all that intelligence on Iran – then they are absolutely capable of collecting intelligence on the USA and the White House team at the time. So perhaps the Israeli’s decided to withold the intelligence they had gathered, because of distrust of Obama and his team, assuming they had incovered intellligence about Obama and Co that worried them? Stranger things have happened..
Either way – some serious questions need to be posed here. This would be worthy of a Royal Commission if it were Australia. So what is the equivalent to an RC in the USA? A Congressional Hearing?
Wellington says
Fine post, Sarah.
Unfortunately, right now in America a Congressional hearing would probably be of little value. Here’s why: The Democratic Party has lost its collective mind and, while there are still some very solid Republicans out there (examples being Nunes of California and Gowdy of South Carolina), a great many Republicans have lost their guts and common sense.
Put another way, Trump is pretty much on his own. He is essentially a man with no party, a maverick, and a man who realizes how profoundly corrupt both major parties are. He is the best shot at present that America, and all the free world, has for remaining free. And so no wonder he is so detested, including by many Republicans.
He is very much alone but, to his great credit, he has managed this “aloneness” with courage, insight, patriotism, great street instincts, and a desire to NEVER give up. For all those who prize liberty, wherever they live on this planet, such folks should realize that Trump is the best shot they have at preserving freedom. Anyone doubting me, I would challenge such a person to name a more powerful and insightful proponent of freedom than Trump. I aver there are none.
PMP says
Very well said. And the sad reality is that the vast majority on this planet have no idea just how fragile the freedoms we now have are, nor how close we are to losing every single one of them. Most people are willfully stupid or just plain ignorant. It is shocking and scary how many “Republicans” are really Democrats. And these “Republicans” have been the puppets of the Deep State for many many years. I just hope that Trump is able to clean these shit stains out.
PMP says
Wellington, as usual, an erudite and very astute response/rebuttal to Janwaar Bibi’s ludicrous (as usual) diatribe. Well played, well played and excellent form. Kudos.
Clearsighted says
Wellington, I admire your eloquence and your writing skill and despair over its truth and accuracy.
Carolyne says
And you Wellington are absolutely correct in your assessment of President Trump. He is the world’s last and best hope.
gravenimage says
Good stuff from Sarah, Wellington, and PMP.
And PMP, if you are new here, welcome to Jihad Watch!
PMP says
Thank you for the welcome. I have been a silent observer for a few weeks now. Thought I would jump in. My goodness, I sincerely hope that there are many more like me out there who are “silently watching” and learning. It would be nice to see thousands commenting positively, but I understand.
gravenimage says
Yes, PMP, many more read than post here. Glad to see you join the conversation.
mortimer says
Tommy Vietor’s remarks are INCREDIBLE, following PM Netanyahu’s BREATHTAKING INTELLIGENCE REVELATIONS.
Tommy Vietor seems to be working for the other side, trying to say to us in effect, ‘PAY NO ATTENTION TO THE MAN BEHIND THE CURTAIN … who is building a nuclear arsenal.”
Tommy Vietor … is he secretly working for the Iranian mullahs?
Terry Gain says
Mortimer
Vietor is just another stupid Leftist. Alarmingly they comprise 40% of the population, 80% of the media, 90% of academia and 95% of Hollywood. These are the Islamophilic morons who elected the grossly incompetent, or crypto Muslim, Obama twice.
Bibi’s speech was magnificent. I can’t stop smiling. Before the end of Trump’s second term the reputation of Hussein Obama – the most overrated man in history- will lay in ruins.
Clearsighted says
Not secretly. I believe that just like his boss, Obama, he was openly working for the enemy.
The crusader says
That an interesting thought.
Linnte says
When I saw Israels PM declair Iran to be liars and he showed proof, I said to myself, “Self, Robert Spencer is a flippin’ genius!”
gravenimage says
🙂
No Muzzies Here says
Why is no one saying that Obama’s intention was for Iran to build nuclear weapons? It was not to prevent Iran from building them. The truth is exactly the opposite of everything Obama says or does.
gravenimage says
Quite likely.
KJW says
It’s not just Obama but the other four countries that were part of signing the JCPOA as well as American politicians and big-monied lobby groups and individuals supporting it and not supporting it. I think one intention of the five countries was a balance of Middle Eastern power and appeasement to the Gulf States, however, the Gulf states are well-aware of how Iran operates. Either way, Iran continues to improve its missiles and satellites and has boasted about missiles being able to hit Israel. Iran is not really interested in destroying Israel but it continues to support terrorist groups from Afghanistan to Africa to the Middle East, even Al Qaeda despite that Al Qaeda is Wahhabi Sunni anti-Shi’ism.
The JCPOA is basically a soft deterrent. Iranians who know the mullah regime well say that Iran will definitely continue to build a nuclear weapon, most for defense. They also continue to try to spread their Revolution ideas couple with pan-Islamism and cyber attacks on US banks and a dam, let alone spies in the US, funding of Islamic “Muslim advocacy” groups, and maintain their 1980s ideals. They have not stopped their anti-Israel rhetoric such as that Israel will be destroyed in 25 years, though last year Ayatollah Khameini said not massacre of the Jewish people but the regime. Why 25 years? Migration and infiltration of Islamist jihadists in western governments, media, etc., i.e., the same tactics of the Muslim Brotherhood.
It used to be that the Iranians who would come to the US were anti-mullahs, but now we have Iranians here and imams who even publicly celebrate Ayatollah Khomeini’s memorial day. Anyone old enough knows how repugnant that is…Khomeini was a terrible man.
However, the European Commission is anti-Israel and responsible for all things Arabian infiltrating and spreading in Europe which is easy to see. They are the real traitors of Europe and it’s based on economics re oil since the 1970s in appeasing the Gulf states. They care more about money than European citizens and western civilization. Europe has harbored terrorist affiliates for decades.
It’s nuts if Obama truly likes Islam as it is nuts for any black person to convert to Islam considering their PROPHET had black slaves and the Arab slave trade went so far as to actually castrate tens of thousands or perhaps more because of their “ungovernable sexual appetite.” Americans wanted slaves to reproduce. Six out of ten African boys died from this castration.
I have an article by a black American who was complaining about Obama’s attention to Muslims more than black Americans. Obama’s hiring of Muslim Brotherhood people and his traitorous DOJ is betrayal to black Americans as well as all freedom-loving Americans both in rights and culture. The majority of religious black Americans are also Christian and see Jesus as favorable to ALL races and peoples in contrast to slave-owning Prophet Muhammad aka Messenger of Allah. Women who convert to Islam, especially American women, are even more stupid. I also don’t see why leftists bother supporting LGBT rights and Muslim immigration when the majority of Muslims are very against LGBT.
If Obama is one to support a worldwide governing body like a UN and universal laws like the Brookings Institute promotes, then for an insane reason he supports Islam and domination over Christianity and whites? Obama often emphasized how demographics would change (less whites) and actively promoted training of Muslims with NASA, etc., in other words, let the intelligent whites train them since we’re going away. Hiring people because of their religion is as bad as not hiring because of their religion. It’s pretty disgusting to have affirmative action because of a religion and hiring them in government positions, law enforcement (there are 700 Muslim police members in New York City), the FBI is compromised, etc.
Obama is a tool as well. It was nonsensical of him to receive a Nobel Peace Prize so soon without proving anything. Arafat received one too, if that doesn’t show how political that prize is. Many Muslims consider Obama as “one of us” because you are technically a Muslim if your FATHER is/was. Thus “peace” had to have meant that connection. You know what peace means in Islam: when all submit to Islam and also there’s the verse 25:63 in the Qur’an that says: “The servants of the All-merciful are those who walk in the earth modestly and who, when the ignorant address them (with harsh words), say, ‘Peace’;
The twisted logic in Islam is so warped. When we criticize Islam they claim “Islam is a religion of peace,” but of course it’s not our idea of what peace means. Peace would mean leaving us alone and staying in their own Islamic countries-they cause division, which is *not* peace.
It’s hard to believe that in 2018 we’d even be discussing this. The elite leaders deserve something like the Nuremburg Trials. Europe gives fluff talk about human rights while critics of Islam are being jailed and they cover up immigrant crimes and all migrants are not following countries’ laws. Enclaves of Muslims are definitely operating as sharia zones.
Lydia Church says
Sure, the inconvenient news is always ‘fake’ according to them!
Sam says
What would be the reason for Israel to “cook” stories about Iran?
I bet this would be a very difficult question for Muslim loving liberals.
gary fouse says
Doogie Houser MD
Aaron says
This guy was on the national security council working for Obama
Sorry folks
He has no credibility
Obama who is a Muslim gave the store to Iran
R. Murphy says
Obama was a true traitor to this country and it’s really not a difficult case to make. If anyone should have understood Islam it should have been Obama. The leadership of Iran considers Obama a kafir and an apostate. He knew that Muslims consider kafirs vile, disgusting and have no problem lying to them. In addition, he knew that Muslims only negotiate with kafirs when they are at a competitive disadvantage; otherwise, they dictate the terms. I know it so he must have known it. Giving the world’s leading terrorist country that he knows hates us over $100 billion in exchange for an agreement he knew they were probably not going to keep is a treasonous act.
Tom says
The left will ALWAYS try to say that any evidence of lying on the part of the Iranians is fake because doing other wise brings down their house of cards and shows their hero Obama as the anti American that he really is.
After watching Netanyatu’s presentation of the evidence showing Iran’s deceptions, it becomes crystal clear that Obama sold out the American people with the Iran nuclear deal. Which was supposed to be the crowning glory of his presidency.
There will always be those on the left who will deny any complicity by Obama, even if Iran sends nuclear warheaded intercontinental missiles to destroy Washington. They of course would blame Trump and say it was a false flag attack.
Their inability to accept that they are wrong is why countries throughout Europe and Scandinavia are drowning in Islamists bent on destroying the west by violence or by economic and demographic means. No matter the method used, it ia all Jihad, and the left are simply unable to see this.
Kadok says
And yet: is anyone really surprised by this? Obama did everything he could possibly do to bring this country down, and if he couldn’t bring it down he would divide it’s citizens and replace them with those of his own making, and when that started falling apart, he gave millions of dollars and then billions of dollars to very people who hate this country the most, well almost, Obama still has the top of that list.
KJW says
+1
KJW says
The JCPOA is just a temporary appeasement. Iran does whatever is best for it and always has since the 1980s when Ayatollah Khamenei spoke of what Ayatollah Khomeini’s ideas were. One of their goals via terrorism has been to “pose a threat to Israel,” regional hegemony, pan-Islamism by non-violent means such as infiltration, support of Islamic groups in Western countries (which they do), to deter the US, and “to serve as a bargaining chip to trade when the time is ripe in return for concessions on other issues important to itself; this is exemplified in Iran’s links with al-Qaida despite the Wahhabi anti-Shi’ite ideology of al-Qaeda.
Iranians who know the mullah regime well say that they will definitely pursue nuclear weapons. Iran is more concerned with defending itself against threats from the US, Israel, Gulf states, but if a war escalated, I’m not sure. Either way, they supply weapons to Hamas or funds. They supply the Houthis in Yemen.
Regardless of disagreements with Sunni states, they all agree on jihadism. Ayatollah Khamenei repeats “renewing the spread of Islam to the “oppressed peoples around the world. It’s twisted-they think I’m oppressed because I’m deprived of Islam. Ayatollah Khomeini had endorsed the permitted lying of “taqqiya,” which is a Shia term, not Sunni. Iranians say just that “Arabs move with lies.”
Regardless of the JCPOA, Iran continues to build better missiles, has boasted a missile could hit Israel, that via the Gulf of Mexico they could hit the US, supports Hamad, the Houthis in Yemen, wants Iraq and Syria to be Shia Islamic states, supports terrorist groups from Afghanistan to Africa, groups such as:
Asaib al-Haq, Badr Brigade, Ketaib Hezbollah, Hash’d Sha’bi, and al-Qaeda as needed. They also infiltrate South America, Central America, spies in the US, cyber warfare, Iranian imams in the US, etc.
Their ideology is an Islamic regime that strives to appeal to ALL Muslims with Revolutionary ideas and to also convince non-Muslims of these ideas/ideals. They see Iran as a nation with “manifest destiny” to lead the Muslim world and become a predominant regional superpower in the Gulf and heart of the Arab world and in central Asia. They claim that this is a consensus of moderates and radicals, liberals and conservatives. (Muslims)
Propagation of Islam: tablighi eslami or export of Revolution sudur inqilab. Khamenei calls it a “soft war.”
On Twitter he posted May 4, 2016 a nine-point plan in destroying the Israeli regime. He does not mean massacring Jews, just the regime. I made a screenshot of this. An aspect of this is a referendum which would be internationally agreed on, is to have a referendum of Palestinians (wherever they may live) including Christians and Jews, though the Jews who had “been persuaded to move to Palestine) can’t vote on it.
Then they would decide on a new government and decide whether non-Muslims can remain living there or must return to their home countries.
They don’t expect “the usurper Zionists” to agree to this, thus international parties, governments, public opinion, and organizations of resistance would play a role. [The European Commission isn’t very pro-Israel and by virtue of immigration and government employment of jihadist Muslims feeds that. The EU hasn’t appeared to be very pro-Israel either. It’s the US who throws a wrench in that plan.]
“Up until the day that this homicidal and infanticidal regime is eliminated through a referendum, powerful confrontation and resolute armed resistance is the cure of this ruinous regime. The only means of confronting a regime which commits crimes beyond one’s thought and imagination is a resolute confrontation. [talk about hypocritical hyperbole! As if Hamas’s tactics, indoctrination of hate in little children, use of foreign aid money to enrich leaders and weapons purchases, no less suicide attacks and tunnels to Israel.]
“The West Bank should be armed like Gaza. We don’t recommend a classical war by the army of Muslim countries nor to throw migrated Jews into the sea and certainly not arbitration by the UN and other international organizations.”
He goes on to justify Gaza’s actions-rockets are not to blame for Israel’s “crimes” and Palestinians have only stones. He says that Israel “massacres” among other things. He also said that Israels poisoned and killed Arafat even though Arafat worked towards cooperation with Israel and peace. [Hamas says they will fight forever. In fact, I don’t know what they would do with themselves if they weren’t fighting. They’d have to earn money a different way.]
The mullahs also believe in the concept of ‘if Muslims previously occupied a land then it’s theirs for the taking again. [Jews could say that of Medina since they were there before Muhammad did his hijra and kicked them out and massacred others.]
That’s also not to mention their apocalyptic religion views and the Mahdi. Khamenei has said Israel will be destroyed in 25 years. This would be through migration and Muslim Brotherhood tactics of infiltration, especially government positions in Western countries-the long goal plan being weakening Israel by elimination of monetary US support. It appears that the European Commission has not be supportive of Israel and are also traitors to the European peoples and western civilization. The EU’s support is questionable too for the same reason. “Human rights” talk is cheap, also, when you harbor terrorists, n’est-ce pas?
JM says
The notion of Iran seeking the destruction of the Israeli regime without massacring Jews strains credulity. Which Jews in particular would be spared by the merciful theocracy as it gleefully destroys Israel? Perhaps the Jews in Papua New Guinea? A taqiyya-free statement would have referred to Israeli Jews.
But obviously the goal is to commit genocide against the Jews in Israel (and preferably worldwide). The stark message “Death to Israel” stamped on Iran’s prototype nuclear-capable missiles reveals the intent. So the claim of not wanting to kill Jews is taqiyya within taqiyya.
If a pack of demented criminal thugs continually screams from the rooftops their desire to shoot and kill you, believe them.
And if the murderous gang politely tells you one day that they only want to burn down your house while you and your family sleep at night, only an idiot would consider that a steppingstone to peace.
tzioni says
Note: PM Netanyahu provides 100,000 documents to back up his statements. Obama’s stooge says Netanyahu and Trump falsified the evidence, giving no examples and no proof whatsoever, without having even seen the documents, to our knowledge. This is the difference between liberals and conservatives, and between failed leaders and a professional diplomat.PM Netanyahu sets the bar high for diplomacy, which makes Obama jealous and hateful.