“Mr Swaibu Malinzi, another Muslim, said since the preachers had ‘waged a war on Muslims’, they had also been forced to declare a Jihad against them.”
Last month, on May 3, the third anniversary passed of our Muhammad Art Exhibit and Cartoon Contest that was attacked by jihadis in Garland, Texas. In the wake of the attack, not a few Christians told me that I had done a terrible thing in co-organizing and speaking at the event. They claimed that Pamela Geller and I were gratuitously provoking Muslims, and brushed aside our response, which was that to bow to intimidation, in that case the threat of violence against those who drew Muhammad, would only encourage more intimidation.
Very well. But those Christians should take careful note of this incident. They thought that Pamela Geller and I were poking Muslims in the eye by holding our event in defense of the freedom of speech, and that we should have been more respectful. But these preachers in Uganda were simply preaching the Christian faith, and comparing it favorably to Islam, as Islamic preachers routinely compare Islam favorably to Christianity. Yet they still ended up being accused by enraged Muslims of “despising Islamic teachings at their crusade,” and ended up having a jihad declared against them.
The lesson is clear: some Muslims consider any expression of the Christian faith (as well as any expression of other non-Muslim religions) as provoking to Muslims. So all the good Christians who castigated us for holding our free speech event in Garland should be consistent. If their intention is to avoid provoking Muslims at all costs, they should close down their churches now and convert to Islam. It would be the tolerant thing to do.
“Police foil Christian, Muslim bloody fight,” by Yazid Yolisigira, Daily Monitor, June 4, 2018 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
IGANGA- A group on Muslims have attacked Christians [sic] preachers, accusing them of “despising Islamic teachings at their crusade”.
The crusade that was presided over by Pastor Moses Saku, was organised by the Bible Evangelism Ministry, at Kigobero Grounds in Iganga Town.
It degenerated into chaos when a group of Muslims said the Born Again preachers were using the platform to ‘demoralise Islam’.
Pastor Saku, the Muslims alleged, told his congregation that ‘Christianity was far better than Islam’, to the irritation of some Muslims who were in attendance.
This prompted Police from Iganga Central Police Station to intervene.
Mr Ayub Waiswa, one of the Muslims, said they had from the onset of the crusade, warned the Christian preachers against making provocative statements.
Mr Swaibu Malinzi, another Muslim, said since the preachers had ‘waged a war on Muslims’, they had also been forced to declare a Jihad against them.
The preachers, however, dismissed the allegations as untrue and accused their Muslim counterparts of gagging them from telling people the ‘truth’.
“We have never abused Muslims or Allah but it seems they [Muslims] are concerned by the way we were highlighting the contradictions in the Koran,” Pastor Saku said….
Avenger says
Poor and outnumbered Ugandan Christians have more backbone than our weak kneed bible thumping American Christians.
Interfaith services are a ramification of fear.
dumbledoresarmy says
Actually, Uganda considered as a whole is overwhelmingly majority-Christian. About 85 percent at last count.
Islam is a minority. A largeish minority – about 13 percent at last count – but most definitely a minority. But in the areas where they are present they aggressively dominate (as they do *everywhere* that they form a large enough colony). Most of them are in the eastern part of the country; the Iganga region, which is where this particular incident took place, is heavily Islamised.
Muslims constantly project. Because they themselves intend ferocious and annihilating aggression toward *others*, they project that murderous aggression, that intention of raping, enslaving, crushing, humiliating and generally destroying, onto … those whom they intend to destroy. And then they tell themselves that they are acting in ‘self-defence’; they have to ‘get’ the dirty kuffar before the dirty kuffar ‘get’ them…
*Everything* non-Isamic is a standing insult to Muslims; it is perceived as an ‘attack’.
We ‘attack’ Islam – we attack the swollen egos of Muslims – merely by *existing* as unsubdued non-Muslims.
Avenger says
@dumbledoresarmy
I stand corrected and excellent post.
Thank You.
gravenimage says
Fine post, DDA.
Logic&Reason says
21 days into Ramadan….111 attacks in 14 countries, killing 439 people.
If only infidels, apostates, heretics, etc. weren’t so “Islamophobic”, the killing would stop…
Pffft…..
Norger says
How can any sane kuffar not “despise Islamic teachings?”
Aardvark says
You beat me to it!
+1
Truth says
Islam is illegal in Angola.
gravenimage says
No, it’s not, Truth–but this is a canard that just will not go away:
“Angola denies it banned Islam, destroyed mosques”
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2013/11/angola-denies-it-banned-islam-destroyed-mosques
Lydia Church says
Ah, but there is a distinction to be noted.
A Christian should be a Christian in all practicing ways.
If we live by our faith, we do well. That includes evangelism, church activity, celebrating our holidays, and so on. If we are murdered for this, we are martyred for our faith.
But to mock publicly these items of islam is a different matter. It is not a thing that is included in our faith, a requirement or common practice, such as reading the Bible and obeying it. We don’t ‘have’ to mock another religion to follow our Christian faith. Of course if any group mocks another religion, it is seen as a provoking act of aggression and somewhat asking for trouble and if trouble finds one, it is not as honorable a death shall we say. Now we know there is plenty of material to mock, that is another matter though. Of course there is a fine line too. We do have freedom of speech and there are things that are just too darn funny to ignore, like some of these items about ‘farting in a mosque’.
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We must keep a healthy balance on things like this.
It is not the same thing as to “avoid provoking Muslims at all costs”.
We must balance the noble calling and behavior of being a Christian as well as the natural expression of humor all in good taste.
There are lots of verses against mockery and such in the Bible, which I piously reproduce below:
“How blessed is the man who does not walk in the counsel of the wicked, Nor stand in the path of sinners, Nor sit in the seat of scoffers!” Psalm 1; 1
“Scorners set a city aflame, But wise men turn away anger.” Proverbs 29; 8
(None of which involve compromising the Christian faith.)
Love and Peace to you!
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Joe says
If the Muslim is sincere about Islam, he is incompatible with humanity in general, because his “religion” commands him to make others submit to Islam which is death, conversion, or slavery. The Muslim gets to choose which of these are best. So there is no way to be polite with a “good” Muslim, because they are required to hate you until you submit. This concept is on nearly every page of the Koran. In other words, Islam is about conquering. If the other side is polite, if makes the battle easier. When Muslims follow the Koran, a battle ensues. It is required.
dumbledoresarmy says
Lydia: we ‘mock’ Islam by *existinng*. We ‘mock* Islam every time we contradict it.
If a Christian says that according to the Bible Abraham offered his son Isaac, in the very act of saying that, the Christian implicitly mocks/ attacks/ criticises Islam, because he is *contradicting* the Muslim claim that ‘Ibrahim’ (their caricature of Abraham) offered *Ismail*.
If a Christian says that Jesus is the Son of God, that Christian is viewed as mocking Islam.
And note – in the eyes of Islam, which is filled to the brim with malignant narcissism and megalomania, ANY public contradiction or criticism, **no matter how polite, reasoned and fact-based**, is construed as mockery, as an insult, as an *attack*, as ‘making war’.
The very act of politely saying ‘No’ when ‘invited’ to ‘submit’ to Islam, is a casus belli. Quite literally. Muslims are supposed to issue us with the ‘call’ to Islam; and when we refuse, then… they can launch the jihad upon us, to *force* us to submit willy-nilly. Islam is an Abuser, a rapist, who **will not** accept NO for an answer, and who cannot abide to be contradicted, let alone criticised.
Asia Bibi was ahriekingly accused of ‘blasphemy’ by her muslim co-workers in Pakistan, after they had demanded that she convert to Islam, and she refused, and she explained: she explained that she preferred Jesus. Her very act of indicating that she thought Jesus was a better person, a better Saviour, than Mohammed, was construed as an *insult* to Mohammed. How DARE she imply that Mohammed was anything less than perfect…. Filled with rage, they accused her of blaspheming.
You and i, we insult Islam, we attack Islam, by .. breathing-while-infidel. Our very existence is a casus belli.
gravenimage says
All true.
Carol the 1st says
Very interesting DDA and it sounds like you may have more experience and insight into the muslim mind than most of us do. I’ve often wondered – especially when you see so many barbaric mobs in Africa – if they’re driven to act that way because they cling to uniformity as the only possible solution to their chronic warfare.
What you’ve described however puts a less savory light on the matter. Something more like just chronic nastiness.
Carol the 1st says
Lydia the verse refers to “scoffers” who scoff at that which supposedly does NOT warrant scorn. Some things do, and how we relate to that is appropriately to scoff (or whatever gets through to them).
Gjallarhornet says
Bill Warner is right – the Christian world have taken on the battered wife syndrome. We have been abused by the muslims for so long that for every blow we believe it to be our own fault.
It isn’t.
The offense to islam is not just jokes, but EVERYTHING not muslim. So if you want to stop offending muslims, you gotta convert.
There is a second option of course, which is to disregard the threats, standing up to the bully, learning the muslims how we roll (if they are going to live in the West, it is knowledge they will need to know and apply) and so on. But I get booed out every time I raise this option publicly. Why?
dumbledoresarmy says
You wrote – “…The offense to islam is not just jokes, but EVERYTHING not muslim. So if you want to stop offending muslims, you gotta convert.
There is a second option of course, which is to disregard the threats, standing up to the bully, learning the muslims how we roll (if they are going to live in the West, it is knowledge they will need to know and apply) and so on. ..”.
YES.
I figured this one out some time ago.
gravenimage says
Yes–I noticed the similarity to battered woman syndrome right after 9/11, when so many dhimmi tools were wringing their hands and crying, “why do they hate us”? *Ugh*.
No Fear says
I despise Islamic teachings, especially Mohammed’s bullshit teachings that convince muslims that they are superior to non muslims and that non muslims are “vile animals”. Pox on the crapulous creed of Islam and the Belief Nazis who propagate it.
SK says
I doubt that there is a serious difference between what these Muslims are upset about and what they do on a daily basis.
gravenimage says
Ramadan in Uganda: Muslims declare jihad, attack Christian preachers, accuse them of “despising Islamic teachings”
“Mr Swaibu Malinzi, another Muslim, said since the preachers had ‘waged a war on Muslims’, they had also been forced to declare a Jihad against them.”
……………………………..
Look what Muslims consider “waging a war on Muslims”–peaceful preaching. *Very* telling.
Remember this next time Muslims say that violent Jihad is only “defensive” and only used when Infidels wage war against them.
Carol the 1st says
“Ramadan in Uganda: Muslims declare jihad, attack Christian preachers, accuse them of “despising Islamic teachings”
“..despising Islamic teachings”? – My first reaction is “So??”
It seems the human race is no longer to have a right to differing opinions (godly agents have decreed). They need to get their pants out of a wad, these nasty little butt-wipers for some invention called Allah who doesn’t seem able to garner the non-coerced, the non-sociopathic, or non-brainwashed followers.
That unflattering fact would have most people taking a really good look in the mirror.