Meanwhile, the New York Times slipped in an interesting little note in between all that claims that Ahmad Al-Issa was an angry loner.
“The suspect’s identity was previously known to the F.B.I. because he was linked to another individual under investigation by the bureau, according to law enforcement officials.”
That raises all sorts of questions.
The FBI doesn’t investigate shoplifters or build lists of connections to people for petty crimes. That means we’re likely dealing with either terrorism or serious criminal activity.
Al-Issa didn’t have much of a criminal record beyond a violent assault on a classmate over his religion or ethnicity. That makes terrorism far more likely.
The authorities and the media are reluctant to answer the big question.
Some ISIS supporters have celebrated Al-Issa’s attack, treating it as Muslim terrorism, but ISIS does not appear to have even tried to claim credit. This doesn’t mean that Al-Issa wasn’t a Muslim terrorist. But given how much we’ve heard about his paranoia, he may have successfully pulled off an attack by not making the familiar amateur Jihadi mistake of trying to contact ISIS or Al Qaeda.
Finally, while the term ‘lone wolf’ gets thrown around a lot, Al-Issa might be the real thing. A Muslim terrorist who plotted and carried out an attack independently of the usual online Islamic terror infrastructure. He kept it simple and succeeded in killing ten people.
Also, this does not appear to be a suicide attack. Unlike many ISIS Jihadis, Al-Issa wanted to live. He took off his clothes and shouted, “I’m naked”, to make sure the police didn’t shoot him.
Jihadis have been taken alive often enough, but either Al-Issa panicked or he planned all along to be taken alive and had worked out how.
That’s suggestive of a different approach. We may learn in the coming days that Al-Issa followed the familiar playbook, complete with oath and black flag, but it’s possible that he really was a lone wolf who took a different approach, avoiding the copycat failed ISIS plots for something that worked.
mortimer says
The FBI must then believe that it isn’t JIHADIC TERRORISM when jihadists do it … and that ‘Islam has NOTHING to do with Islam.’
Muslims who purchase guns and begin target practice and advocate for ISIS will NOT be assumed to be suspicious, but merely interested in self-defense. Whereas, Republicans who purchase guns are now considered as ‘terrorists’.
If believing in a political ideology is ‘insane’, then Democrats who believe in Globalism are also ‘insane’.
Rob Porter says
mortimer – does any sane American any longer have any faith in the FBI? This is now a so subverted and untrustworthy organization that it bewilders me why Trump did not shut it down.
It’s now beyond being a joke organization wth Chris Wray a pitiful excuse for a leader. The pitiful FBI tells us how far America has fallen apart, the border crisis another sign. From now on it’s all downhill for the once United States of America and China is laughing.
Brando says
Probably he was at one time a NON-religious Muslim,but later ,since he Still Believed the KORAN was the Literal Word of God, become religious. Islam is like a VIRUS,
in the NON-practicing Muslim it is a DORMANT virus. But then one day a Life Event happens,the virus becames ACTIVATED, and VOILA,
you get a Muslim who is ANTI-HUMAN rights.
1.We know 95% of our actions are Determined by Our SUBCONCIOUS
2.In the non-practicing Muslim,in his subconscious,he has a FEAR of a Literal,Flesh-Burning HELL.
PLUS
The Koran says to OBEY MUHAMMED=to OBEY ALLAH
CHAPTER 33:36
” It is NOT:
1.For any BELIEVER, man or woman,
when ALLAH and His PROPHET have decreed a matter,
2.To have the choice in the affair.
3.Whoever disobeys ALLAH and His PROPHET has gone astray into manifest error.”
Lion heart says
Brando : That’s why I usually say all the nice and moderate Muslims out there , are nice until further notice meaning until taking Islam seriously & put its teachings into practice to the letter , only then they will no longer be nice and we saw they pattern in Iraq after the fall of saddam’s bloody regime and how even longtime Muslim neighbours to Christians have betrayed the Christians by killing them , raping Christian girls and snitching on Tyumen to ISIS especially in Baghdad and Mosul and I am a Canadian Christian guy originally originally from Iraq
Brando says
Hello, you are right, and I have an interest in Christian concepts,I am an agnostic,but have respect for the NT.
ABOUT HELL
Believe it or not,contrary to popular opinion,there are the Evangelical CONDITIONALISTS:
1.They point out that LITERALLY every time the phrase “eternal life” appears,it is ONLY in reference to the Saved.
So for them there is a Hell,but it is TEMPORARY ,the wicked suffer,but for a time,then….they are GONE, they are SNUFFED out,it’s Over.
2.They have Lots of Biblical Verses,it is an ACCUMULATIVE case.
3.They say the Soul is NOT Immortal, that Immortality/ Eternal Life, is CONDITIONAL.
TWO EXAMPLES
Paul says:
ROMANS 6:23
” For the WAGE of SIN is
DEATH
but the GIFT of GOD gift of God is ETERNAL LIFE through Jesus Christ our Lord.”
MARK 8:36-37 / MATTHEW 16:26 ( Jesus says:)
“What will it PROFIT a man if he GAINS the WHOLE WORLD,
yet LOSES his SOUL?
Or what can a man give IN EXCHANGE for his SOUL”
THE CASE OF IRENEUS
1.He was the disciple of POLYCARP,who died as a MARTYR. His martyrdom is attested to in a document written only 1 YEAR after his death.
2.Polycarp was the disciple of JOHN,one of the 12 apostles.And Ireneus says Polycarp told him the author of the book called Gospel of John was REALLY written by John the Apostle.
3.Ireneus wrote a 500 PAGE book called AGAINST HERESIES, and in that book( with A Lot of Theological Details For and Agaist This and That) the way he says it:
PUNISHMENT in Hell is NOT Eternal,but ENDS.
There are 145 videos by RETHINING HELL,where all this and more,is shown,fascinating:
https://www.youtube.com/user/rethinkinghell/videos
THE CASE OF THE EASTERN ORTHODOX CHURCH
I do not know how to what extent it is held,but it is held:
the FIRE of Hell there is NOT a Literal Fire but the LOVE of God ( that sinners can Not Tolerate and so suffer,they Hate God).It is based on:
DEUTERONOMY 4:24 / HEBREWS 12:29
“For the LORD your GOD is a CONSUMING FIRE, a jealous God.”
and 1 JOHN 4:8 / 1 JOHN 4:16
“Anyone who does not love does not know God,
because GOD is LOVE”
SO
God is a Fire=God is Love, the Fire of Hell is the Presence of God’s Love to the unrepentant, who Loath and Hate it.
Brando says
I forgot to add that Ireneus idea that Hell is Temporary,it Ends,would have been transmited to him by POLYCARP,
who would have got it from JOHN the Apostle.
rubiconcrest says
The FBI is blind to Islamic terrorism and even encourages it as they did in the Mohammad cartoon draw contest in Texas. People need to do their own research and know their neighbors. Law enforcement will not protect us since they generally do not understand the threat any better.
The Islamic Center of Boulder is a radical mosque which supports jihad. This can be confirmed by studying their website and doing a little research to understand what forms the basis of their teachings and what they support. Understanding the threat.com website published an article on Jihad Watch recently detailing the Boulder Jihad.
Sadly, wherever one lives in the USA this is necessary.
John L Fisk says
Yes, the FBI is blind but they are intentionally blind. They have been instructed not to consider Islam as a motive for any nefarious act. They are part of the deep state and the Democrats, the press and the deep state are coconspirators.
gravenimage says
What Did FBI Know About Syrian Muslim Boulder Supermarket Shooter?
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Damn good question–we already know that he was “known” to the FBI…
Fred van de Bunt says
Some 3000 hours and 156 interviews later the Boulder police still not tells anything, but here it says it has to do also with pre-court influencing of the jury, if police says too much, which might cause the trial to go outside Boulder jurisdiction. One just has to wait till the court trail starts, I suppose?
https://gazette.com/news/more-than-3-000-hours-and-156-interviews-later-boulder-pd-chief-says-mass-shooters/article_c172872b-2584-5fdc-b544-787f4f294fd1.html
Wellington says
A key question any law enforcement authority should ask himself (but I highly doubt will) is would this wretched human being have engaged in the killing he did if he were not Muslim?
Islam has been so whitewashed by the West that few in law enforcement know what the Hell they’re dealing with where Islam is concerned. I mean how many police-type authorities know what “muruna” or kitman mean? Who Kinana was? What is the difference between the words “sura” and “sira?” What are the hadiths? What is meant by zakat? How many police-type authorities could name even a single major school of Islamic theology, Sunni or Shiite? How many even know the difference between Sunni and Shiite? And so on.
When you remain willfully ignorant of the motive, your police work is going to suck. Sure sucks now.
James Lincoln says
Wellington,
I would be satisfied if law enforcement knew just this much:
Islam is a totalitarian political, religious ideology whose very devout followers – muslims – want to impose sharia law upon the entire world.
Naildriver says
10 good people are murdered, and a Muslim did it.
Even if this guy is seeing pink elephants floating about daily, and is insane, devotees to Islam can be such, and a terrorist too; and, Islamic devotee recruiters will recruit such other insane Muslim devotees with no problem — that’s why Islam needs to be implicated.
Pray Hard says
The fib is, apparently, still Obama’s little girl. They’ll never do anything about moslems.
Russell S Schow says
My question is if they need to ban guns to stop gun violence what will they do to men to stop all rapes?
robyt says
This is the mainstream narrative: a white alt-right incel sociopath gun owner murdered 10 people.
Cui prodest ?
I think this is a deep institution planned event in order to advance the anti gun rights political agenda. The mainstream media went all in with the classical gun blaming style… it smells like the usual staged event with real death. The FBI / CIA and company knew it all, everything in advance, they can brainwash mentally unstable people into commiting any kind of terrorist activity they need for the their purpose.
ISIS and all of the islamic terrorism has always been used by the past anglosaxon powers in order to destabilize the middle east since the times of Lawrence of Arabia to the “heroic” mujahideen in afghanistan later renamed taliban terrorists. But today it can be used also in order to advance the political agenda in america as well.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T._E._Lawrence
https://rambo.fandom.com/wiki/Mujahideen
gravenimage says
Actually, the claim that the “filthy Infidels” are waging Jihad against their own people is absurd. Do you really think that Jihadists don’t actually want us dead? The problem here is that the FBI was content with just observing this Jihadist instead of acting.
robyt says
Did not said that… islamic text is clear on the distiction existing between followers and infidels; but the use of it for revolution purpose is quite modern, if you follow a certain historic path , that started at least with Lawrence of Arabia, who was working directly for the UK crown in order to subvert the political order in the arabian peninsula and the middle east (agsainst the ottoman empire), and used the quran as his hardcore warriors manifesto. Also during the afghan – soviet war, the CIA used the same book to foment hardcore warriors (the mythological mujhaidin, then renamed talibans after 9/11) against the soviet army, and it is all well documented even in popular culture, just see it again Rambo 3. This is all in history books.
Of course I am not saying that behind any terrorist activity there is the direct order of the CIA / FBI; but at least who control the narrative is the mainstream meadia and the deep institutions. So they use any terrorist event to advance their own agenda. In this case, just ask yourself, what are the consequences of this terrorist actitivity: gun abolition propaganda and new laws against gun rights, which is exatly on the same agenda of the ruling class in the USA now.
Was the terrorist directly working as an FBI / CIA agent ? I do not think so, but in any case, they could have let him go, knowing what was coming, in order to advance the political agenda.
gravenimage says
robyt wrote:
Did not said that… islamic text is clear on the distiction existing between followers and infidels; but the use of it for revolution purpose is quite modern
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The “Prophet” Muhammed used Jihad terror to conquere his neighbors–that doesn’t make this “modern”.
robyt says
@gravenimage Mar 31, 2021 at 9:59 pm
You jumped into a different context and time era (*). I am just saying that other people on political estabnlishment used the quran in order to foment hardcore warriors in more recent and modern war places around the world, particulary in the middle east (the kingdom of Saudi arabia is actually cross linked and direct consequence of the anglosaxon crown order and the petrol entrepeneur Bush was the first to declare islam religion of peace after 9/11) and asia (afghanistan), but not only, also in Cecenya and in the Balkans too. In afghanistan there were CIA training camps for warriors against the communists, they simply subcontrcting the war against the commies to the mujhaidin, giving free entrance to all the islamic combatants to the western world.
( * That muhammad was a conqueror is what the islamic sources say; but actually we have not many proof of that… The roman empire was decadent at the time of the VII century; muhammed would have been the only conqueror where there are no statues and no denaro coins, with his face imprinted on it, which is historically quite strange. Almost all rulers of the past used to print their face on the money which were used in their kingdom… Can we ask ourselves: did he really exist ? So actually I do not think we should use the islamic propaganda as a source of facts, but just as a source of their view. What we know is that arab predators and incursors dominated a desert wasteland on the collapse of a larger and more evoluted civilized and evoluted empire. They claimed that muhammed was their ruler and used the quran as their war manifesto, later than muhamed ever (and if) existed. But it did not last long, because the turks took the lead over the former and mythological arab / muhammedian expansion. * )
gravenimage says
robyt wrote:
@gravenimage Mar 31, 2021 at 9:59 pm
You jumped into a different context and time era (*).
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Muslims have been waging violent Jihad for 1400 years *contiguously*. And the context–imposing Islam, and in the case where the land is already Muslim, *stricter* Islam–has not changed.
And few Americans and Britons know much about the Qur’an and have ever read it (Lawrance of Arabia, an admirer of Islamic savagery, a likely exception). The idea that Muslims were perfectly peaceful until the ‘filthy Infidels’ introduced them to the Qur’an makes no sense.
Yes, Americans and Brits and other Westerners at times considering Muslims to be our allies because of mutual enemies is *deeply* foolish–these pious thugs are *not* our friends–but the claim that it is Westerners responsible for violent Jihad makes no sense.
More:
I am just saying that other people on political estabnlishment used the quran in order to foment hardcore warriors in more recent and modern war places around the world, particulary in the middle east (the kingdom of Saudi arabia is actually cross linked and direct consequence of the anglosaxon crown order and the petrol entrepeneur Bush was the first to declare islam religion of peace after 9/11) and asia (afghanistan), but not only, also in Cecenya and in the Balkans too. In afghanistan there were CIA training camps for warriors against the communists, they simply subcontrcting the war against the commies to the mujhaidin, giving free entrance to all the islamic combatants to the western world.
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The Qur’an has preached Jihad terror for millenia–this has not changed. And while the West did aid the Arabs against the Ottoman Empire, the idea that Saudi Arabia is a Western nation is just bizarre. You do realize that Shari’ah law is prefectly Islamic?
More:
( * That muhammad was a conqueror is what the islamic sources say; but actually we have not many proof of that… The roman empire was decadent at the time of the VII century; muhammed would have been the only conqueror where there are no statues and no denaro coins, with his face imprinted on it, which is historically quite strange. Almost all rulers of the past used to print their face on the money which were used in their kingdom… Can we ask ourselves: did he really exist ? So actually I do not think we should use the islamic propaganda as a source of facts, but just as a source of their view. What we know is that arab predators and incursors dominated a desert wasteland on the collapse of a larger and more evoluted civilized and evoluted empire. They claimed that muhammed was their ruler and used the quran as their war manifesto, later than muhamed ever (and if) existed. But it did not last long, because the turks took the lead over the former and mythological arab / muhammedian expansion. * )
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The “Prophet” Muhammed may or may not have existed as a historical figure–surely you know that Robert Spencer has studied this issue in this book “Did Muhammad Exist?: An Inquiry into Islam’s Obscure Origins”.?
But the idea that proof of this rests entirely on the lack of statues and coinage–given that Islam is a creed that rejects image making, especially of the “Proohet”, is very odd.
Then, the idea that the Turks were soon the only source of Muslim aggression is much mistaken. Muslims in China, South-East Asia, India, Afghanistan, Iran, Africa, and Europe have all been violent–not just the Turks.
And again your idea that it is America that whipped up hatred of the Infidels in an Islamic immigrant from Syria is bizarre.
The FBI *should* have done more than just keep this wanna-be Jihadist under observation–this is indeed a serious failing. But to claim that they instilled a murdereous hatred of unbelievers in him makes no sense at all.
OLD GUY says
This is what you get when you allow hate America and Kill Americans migrants into your country. Opening the borders to muslim/islamic followers is inviting more of this to happen. Once you allow these hate American’s into America our government can not possibly follow and track the dangerous ones to prevent these slaughters from happening. Close the borders to muslim/islamic countries.