The UN will debate this fiction, but will it ever discuss the genuine nexus between Islamic texts and teachings and jihad terrorism? Not on your life, you greasy Islamophobe.
“UN Security Council Debates Nexus Between Climate Change And Terrorism,” by J Nastranis, IDN, December 12, 2021 (thanks to Henry):
People and countries most vulnerable to climate change also are most vulnerable to terrorist recruitment and violence, speakers in an open debate told the Security Council on December 9, as the 15-nation United Nations organ considered a draft resolution proposed by Niger and Ireland. The Council was considering a draft resolution, co-sponsored by Niger (Council President for December) and Ireland.
The resolution would request the Secretary-General to integrate climate-related security risk as a central component into comprehensive conflict-prevention strategies of the United Nations, to contribute to the reduction of the risk of conflict relapse due to adverse effects of climate change.
Environmental degradation enables armed groups to extend their influence and manipulate resources to their advantage, the UN Secretary-General António Guterres told the Security Council, highlighting that conflict-prevention initiatives need to factor in climate risks.
“We are in a race against the clock, and no one is safe from the destructive effects of climate disruption,” Guterres said. Droughts and increasingly extreme meteorological phenomena are threatening food security and access to scarce resources in Somalia, Madagascar, Sudan, the Middle East and North Africa.
The World Food Programme (WFP) estimates that climate change could increase the risk of famine and malnutrition by up to 20 per cent by 2050. Similarly, the World Bank predicts that climate change could lead to the displacement of more than 200 million people in that timeframe.
Regions that are most vulnerable to climate change often also suffer from insecurity, poverty, weak governance and the scourge of terrorism. Of the 15 countries most exposed to climate risks, eight host a United Nations peacekeeping or special political mission.
When climate disruption hinders institutions from providing public services, it fuels grievances and mistrust towards authorities, he continued. In the Lake Chad basin region, Boko Haram gained new recruits, particularly from local communities disillusioned by lack of economic opportunity. In central Mali, terrorist groups have exploited the growing tensions between herders and farmers to recruit.
In Iraq and Syria, terrorist group Daesh, also known as ISIL, has exploited water shortages and taken control of water infrastructure to impose its will on communities, while in Somalia charcoal production provides a source of income for Al-Shaabab, the UN Secretary-General explained during a debate on Security, in the Context of Terrorism and Climate Change.
Citing his report on Our Common Agenda, Guterres underlined areas requiring deeper collective action. Emphasizing that conflicts result from deep societal fractures, including poverty, human rights violations, poor governance and the collapse of essential public services—and, more broadly, a loss of hope for the future—he called first for a focus on prevention and addressing root causes of insecurity….
Jim says
I think we need a new concept, Climophobia. People blame the climate for all the things bad people do. What if it is not the cause at all. What if the famines do not occur. Or they occur, but terrorism only happens where Muslims are able to start terror attacks and have safe havens. I would think that is more likely. Terrorism seems to go wherever the Muslims assemble in large numbers in other countries that previously did not have radical extremists. But that is of course Islamophobia.
Ray Jarman says
+1 Jim,
Also, I guess that in the last 1400 years of Islamic terror across Northern Africa and India were from climate warming. You are so correct and Guterres is completely in the hands of the various terrorist groups controlling the US Assembly.
Jim J Fox says
The United Nations is just another Western body pandering to Islam; conflating climate change with terrorism is their pathetic attempt to avoid telling the truth about the disgusting Religion of Peace.
gravenimage says
True, Jim.
Infidel says
Can anyone here apply to do a PhD thesis on the link b/w islam and climate change? Once that’s done, and we have the nexus b/w jihad and climate change, we can then show the effects of islam on jihad ?
Michael says
One of the threats to a decent life in such countries, leaving aside the conflicts and the religion, comes from the fertility rate (births / female) being almost 4 times higher than Europe: Somalia 5.98, UK 1.65.
Gordon Dolan says
True. Except that one religion is the driving force behind high birth rates. Guess which?
Michael says
4 of the top 5 countries for births per woman are mainly Muslim, Niger 6.8, Somalia 5.98, Mali 5.79, Chad 5.8. The top 25 countries are all African, of which maybe half are Christian / animist. Nigeria a Moslem / Christian country, with the highest population in Africa, has a rate of 5.3. . .
somehistory says
And here it is….some countries more “vulnerable” to changes in climate. How is it then that we have all been told, repeatedly, that all of the earth is in a climate mess?
The u.n….org of useless nonsense…is filled to the brim with mozlum countries, or countries that are working hard to become mozum countries. Therefore, anything that can be said there, debated there, will be; so that terrorism, which is part and parcel of islam, can be blamed on everyone else.
Psychopaths…all those who do evil and then attempt to shift the blame for their evil actions onto someone else. mozlums are psychopaths….unfortunately, they are not the only psychopaths running amok today…and they know they advance terror in order to advance islam. But, since being a liar is part of being a psychopath, they won’t freely admit that they want to be terrorists and teach terrorism in their barracks…every week.
This is just more of the usual garbage connected to islam ;and the mozlums who devotedly press to spread it and get by with theft, lies, kidnapping, rape and murder….terrorism.
Gordon Dolan says
Somehistory-
some countries more “vulnerable” to changes in climate. How is it then that we have all been told, repeatedly, that all of the earth is in a climate mess?
The whole earth IS in a mess; the effects are not uniform, obviously. Low lying Pacific islands are beginning to disappear under the sea; hot countries like Australia will suffer more from increased temperature than cooler ones; cold countries will benefit from warmer weather.
It’s not that hard, is it?
Gordon Dolan says
PS- in retrospect it may have been advisable to use the general term POLLUTION instead of GW or CC. People would have better understood since most pollution is highly visible?
gravenimage says
The idea that non-industrial nations have high levels of pollution makes little sense, How is “Climate Change” pollution? Or are you simply claiming that it should just be referred to as pollution because people who don’t agree with you are unable to understand anything more accurate?
As for rising sea levels, they have risen by about 3 inches in the past hundred years in the San Francisco Bay Area–yet the claim is that in the next seventy years that levels will rise over seven feet. Interesting that the catastrophic changes are always off in the future…
But then, remember that Al Gore was inspired by the 2004 action movie “Day After Tomorrow”–which posited…catastrophic global *cooling”.
somehistory says
No one likes being talked down to,,,,that’s “not that hard, is it”?
Climate changes have been happening since God caused the flood in Noah’s day.
As the Psalmist wrote, all of the seasons will continue as long as the earth will…and the earth “will endure forever.”
We need carbon dioxide. Life cannot exist without it. And when people quit polluting, things regulate without man having to jump in with restrictions on living.
Sure, some places are hotter….even the U.S. has desert areas and some places are wetter than others.
But, this entire *climate* stuff is just more controlling hoax stuff from those who want to dominate the planet and rule mankind.
And, the most important part of my comment you ignored….just focusing on my first sentence which was meant as sarcasm, you missed the part about mozlums just using this contrived nonsense to push their own agenda of control for islam.
Revelation 18: “God will bring to ruin those ruining the earth.”
Gordon Dolan says
Somehistory-
Am I talking down to people? CC is not uniform, that should be obvious to anyone with a functioning brain.
The rest of your comment I agree with except the religious nonsense. Don’t tell me you actually believe the story of Noah and the ark? This was the biblical rubbish that turned me into an atheist at age 10! I’m astonished and dismayed that so many Americans are biblical literalists.
Having provided a link to NASA data about climate change, I’m wasting my time with people who choose to ignore the science in preference to the Sky Fairy…
gravenimage says
Somehistory, check out this map of nations suppoosedly at greatest risk from “climate change”:
https://climatecommunication.yale.edu/news-events/countries-and-territories-most-affected-by-climate-change-also-more-likely-to-believe-it-to-be-personally-harmful/
This corresponds *exactly* to Western nations at least risk, semi-free nations at greater risk, and third-world crap holes at greatest risk–even though this does not otherwise correlate to climate, elevation, or any other geographical factor.
In other words, this is mostly a way of milking the West for money to tackle “climate change” in countries that want that money. Just asking for charity isn’t enough anymore.
somehistory says
They can’t call it what it really is….propaganda. so they label it in ways to guilt people, and scare people, into thinking what they want us all to think.
It works with some…as evidenced by some of the comments on this thread. I have been reading all of my life about “changes” that would happen if we didn’t stop this or that, and as you pointed out, the horror is always off in the future.
It’s much like people *predicting* things by means of tarot cards, crystal balls and reading palms….they make guesses in order to make money and the more sensational, the more money can be charged.
But, hardly ever are they called to account when their predictions fail to come about.
the same with politics and propaganda….warnings and predictions in order to control thinking and actions that give them more power and money.
gravenimage says
+1
Gordon Dolan M.R.I.N.A. says
Your reference seems perfectly reasonable, Western developed Nations are the best equipped to deal with climate change & the most able to implement the measures necessary.
“The claim is that in the next seventy years that levels will rise over seven feet.)
Where exactly is this claim?
THE ROYALSOCIETY.ORG-
“Long-term measurements of tide gauges and recent satellite data show that global sea level is rising, with the best estimate of the rate of global-average rise over the last decade being 3.6 mm per year (0.14 inches per year). The rate of sea level rise has increased since measurements using altimetry from space were started in 1992; the dominant factor in global-average sea level rise since 1970 is human-caused warming. The overall observed rise since 1902 is about 16 cm (6 inches)”
gravenimage says
No–if climate change existed–in the sense that it is used–then it would not magically affect Western nations least, but would most affect, say, coastal areas or those that are dryer, or wetter, or hotter, or colder. The weather doesn’t magically know if a nation practices free trade or is a totalitarian hell hole.
Wellington says
Idiocy, courtesy of the UN which should be no more, and courtesy of the lie which is man-made climate change.
Solar activity and ocean currents are infinitely more responsible for climate than anything puny man has done. CO2 is not a poison but food for plants. In higher levels of the atmosphere it is actually a coolant. Two hundred years ago there were 300 parts per million of CO2 in the atmosphere. Now it’s 400 parts per million. Big deal. A thousand years ago, when few SUVs and factories were around if I recollect correctly, it was 600-700 parts per million. At times in Earth’s history it has been as high as 8,000 parts per million.
Mankind is not destroying the climate. This is a giant lie not backed up by any hard science. What is destroying mankind, however, is all kinds of false information, whether about the climate, Islam, Covid, critical race theory, the entire rot about the transgender crap, et al. What a stupid age we live in. None stupider.
gravenimage says
+1
Beneath the Veil of Consciousness says
Check out the Oppenheimer Ranch Project on YouTube. He debunks the climate change myths. Apparently, we are in the 11 year sun cycle called the Grand Solar Minimum where the sun’s solar flare activity reaches a low point.
Along with changes in weather patterns, an increase in earthquakes and volcanic eruptions are common during this time of the sun’s cyclical phase.
Jim J Fox says
“the lie which is man-made climate change”
If you want to appear sensible and not stupid, provide us with references for your outrageous claims! Or, read the evidence below & stop your nonsense.
Earth’s climate has changed throughout history. Just in the last 650,000 years there have been seven cycles of glacial advance and retreat, with the abrupt end of the last ice age about 11,700 years ago marking the beginning of the modern climate era — and of human civilization. Most of these climate changes are attributed to very small variations in Earth’s orbit that change the amount of solar energy our planet receives.
Can’t paste a graphic here BUT the graph shows that during the past 800000 years CO2 levels fluctuated between 200 and 300 ppm, but never exceeded this until 1950. This data collected from ice cores proves that the industrial revolution is the source of increasing CO2.
Infidel says
Jim
How does what you state prove that human beings have caused it, particularly by industrialization? The climate of the world has always changed, and it’s been cyclical – sometimes heating, sometimes cooling. In fact, the reason that the term ‘climate change’ replaced ‘global warming’ was that in the 00s, we were having colder winters than ever, making the latter term look ridiculous. And also, in the 70s, the same people were warning us about the next ice age
Also, CO2 is just one factor in climate change, other major ones being things like water vapor, which is beyond anybody’s control to control.
Also, even if you assumed every claim about ‘anthropogenic climate change’ to be true, the idea that it has anything to do w/ jihad terrorism is even more ludicrous!
Wellington says
Jim J Fox: I already stated facts. Did you not bother to read them? Do you dispute that back in the medieval warming period CO2 per parts per million were 600 parts? If you do, what is your evidence for this?
Are you even aware that just back in the 1970’s we were going to freeze to death by 2000—massive crop failures due to global cooling, etc. Take a look at the April 28th, 1975 Newsweek cover which was entitled the “The Cooling World.”
Do you even know who Fred Singer was? How about Richard Lindzen? Judith Curry? Roy Spencer? Do you even comprehend that CO2 in higher levels of the atmosphere serves actually as a coolant? Of course you don’t.
Done here for now. Your turn if you can. (Man, have you bought into the nonsense—big time).
gravenimage says
Here’s an image of that (in)famous cover:
https://symonsez.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/global-cooling.jpg
Then there was the cover story of Time from April 8, 1977–“How to Survive the Coming Ice Age”:
https://symonsez.files.wordpress.com/2009/12/global-cooling-time.gif?w=222&h=300
Gordon Dolan says
“Do you dispute that back in the medieval warming period CO2 per parts per million were 600 parts? If you do, what is your evidence for this?”
FACTS?? Don’t make me laugh!
Wellington you are too lazy to read the NASA reference I provided. Your so-called evidence is mere opinion with nothing to back it up. Of course I refute your claim about 600 parts per million, it’s just bullshit. Of the clowns you name for support, Richard Lindzen is the only one I’ve looked up and he’s nothing but a discredited religious loon. I will look up the others to check their ‘credibility’
Time to call a halt to all this religiously inspired drivel, don’t want to waste any more of my life on it!
Gordon Dolan says
https://skepticalscience.com/skeptic_Fred_Singer.htm
https://skepticalscience.com/skeptic_Richard_Lindzen.htm
https://skepticalscience.com/Judith_Curry_arg.htm
Roy Spencer is an advisor to the Cornwall Alliance, formerly the Interfaith Steward Alliance (ISA), an evangelical Christian group that claims environmentalism is “one of the greatest threats to society and the church today.”
gravenimage says
Interesting that Gordon Dolan here has never said anything critical of Jihad terror here. Quite telling.
Jim J Fox says
Source- https://climate.nasa.gov/evidence/
If you are a science denier then why do you live everyday depending on thousands of scientific discoveries and inventions?
Wellington says
The very link you provided does not prove that any slight (and it is very slight) warming in the atmosphere is due to man. It is ASSUMED it is and that is all. Wake the Hell up.
Man-made climate change is about as real as Islam being a religion of peace and tolerance. Chill out and put into any search engine, “George Carlin on climate change.” That is if you can still find it and if you can stand it.
Michael says
Areas above are going through a period of drought, which may or may not be cyclical.
I KNOW that the main causes of misery in the curving drought belt running from Senegal to Afghanistan are man-made: over-population, Turkey’s dams, over-farming/desertification, drugs …. and their resulting conflicts (religious, ethnic, occupational – settled farmer vs. nomadic herder).
The UN needs to firstly focus on family planning, then tackle the other issues. Or multi-task.
Gordon Dolan says
Carry on your delusional slumber Wellington. I’m bored with you.
gravenimage says
Seems you are bored with opposing Jihad, as well.
Gordon Dolan says
Infidel (me also & proud of it)
First, I don’t make any claim. If you checked out the reference I provided (which you have not) you would see that for the past 800000 years CO2 levels have not changed radically.
Since 1950 the graph becomes near vertical. Check it out yourself, I have no tolerance of uninformed opinion. What possible other conclusion can there be except that human activity and the industrial Revolution have caused this spike?
‘Global Warming’ was unfortunate because people like you ignored ‘global’ & focused on local weather. Weather and climate are different things!
The most serious of all warming factors is methane but water vapour is also a problem that causes the effects you point out in the local weather. Increased water vapour produces (generally) more snow in winter and higher rainfall at times; unprecedented flooding has occurred worldwide.
I said nothing about any link between climate change and terrorism so where do you get this idea? It is nonsense of course.
gravenimage says
Firstly, the idea that the Industrial Revolution began in 1950 is quite mistaken.
And here’s more on Michael Mann’s “hockey stick graph”, which you are referring to:
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/dc-judge-dismisses-case-penn-state-climate-professors-case-against-national-review
Gordon Dolan says
Fox news- that most reputable of sources!
The industrial revolution began long before 1950, the effects occurring much later.
Christ, are you really that thick, or just stupidly obtuse?
Most here seem to be victims of religious indoctrination so as an atheist I have zero interest in your opinions. As Richard Dawkins said, “evidence, facts and science are what is important to me”
(Or something to that effect)
gravenimage says
Actually. I said nothing regarding religion in my posts here. Why do you feel the need to lie about this?
Wellington says
The oceans and seas of the world pump out anywhere from 190-230 gigatons of CO2 yearly into the atmosphere. Man, from all his activities pumps out somewhere between 14 and 24 gigatons annually (claims of as much as 43 gigatons are suspect to say the least).
Yes, the oceans and seas of the world reabsorb a good bit of the CO2 they pump out but ditto for the puny amount man does, so how is it that man is catastrophically warming up the climate?
Besides, when did CO2 become a poison? It’s food for plants. Care about too much CO2 (which I personally think is a bogus issue)? Well then, plant millions upon millions of more trees (N.B., the denuding of the great forests of the world, such as in the Amazon, is a real environmental issue as opposed to the bogus issue of man-made climate change—and, I might add, that the most environmentally friendly nations on Earth are the freest and most capitalistic on Earth).
OLD GUY says
The Climate Change is caused by the huge volume of BULL SHIT being spread around the world by the environmentalist.
American environmentalist want to do away with fossil fuel to reduce climate change, while at the same time they open the borders to millions of migrant people. Hate to tell you but people cause pollution and the increase in fossil fuel use. These migrants are not buying electric car and fuel efficient homes, they buy our old V8 pickups and live in our older homes and apartments, not to mention the trashing of neighborhoods and criminal activity.
The migration invasion of America is NOT caused by the Climate, it’s ECONOMIC and life style driven.
Jim J Fox says
OG- America is the major outlier in cc denial; the lowest uptake of electric vehicles of any major country. Whether you like it or not it is happening, & happening fast. ELECTRIFICATION of almost everything possible. Yes Americans love V8s because they’re dumb-asses. How ironic that Tesla is now the most valuable carmaker on the planet!
Presumably you are also ignorant of the coming hydrogen Revolution?
gravenimage says
UN Security Council discusses ‘nexus’ between climate change and terrorism
……………….
What a load of tripe. “Climate change” is so vague that it can mean anything (after all, even “global cooling” and “global warming” were too specific–not to mention contradictory).
But even if this *were* a thing, there is no Jihad terror in so much of the regions supposedly at high risk from “climate change”. After all, there is little to no Jihad terror among Aleuts, South Sea islanders, and Australian aborigines.
Of course, these regions have *very few Muslims*. Islam is the main cause of terrorism, and the only cause of Jihad terror, the main type of terrorism.
Gordon Dolan says
+1
Krishna says
Complete retards of modern history
Gordon Dolan says
Somehistory-
Am I talking down to people? CC is not uniform, that should be obvious to anyone with a functioning brain.
The rest of your comment I agree with except the religious nonsense. Don’t tell me you actually believe the story of Noah and the ark? This was the biblical rubbish that turned me into an atheist at age 10! I’m astonished and dismayed that so many Americans are biblical literalists.
Having provided a link to NASA data about climate change, I’m wasting my time with people who choose to ignore the science in preference to the Sky Fairy…