Does Fabienne Buccio think that after six months, this mosque will preach loyalty to the republic and respect for French law? France, and the entirety of Western Europe, is whistling in the dark.
“A temporary closure procedure initiated against the mosque of Pessac, in Gironde,” translated from “Une procédure de fermeture temporaire engagée contre la mosquée de Pessac, en Gironde,” by Christophe Cornevin and Luc Lenoir, Le Figaro, February 24, 2022 (thanks to Medforth):
In the sermons given by the imams, attacks would have been justified, and martyrdom valued.
On Thursday, the prefect of Gironde, Fabienne Buccio, initiated a “contradictory procedure” with a view to pronouncing a temporary closure (up to six months) of the Al Farouk mosque in Pessac in Gironde.
Managed by the association “Rassemblement des Musulmans de Pessac,” the mosque has been open since 2014 in the city of 65,000 inhabitants, adjacent to Bordeaux. According to the information transmitted to Le Figaro, it would regularly welcome imams “known for their membership of the Islamist movement and their Salafist ideology.” The establishment is said to have similarly supported other organizations or individuals promoting “armed jihad.”
The sermons and remarks promoted by the leaders and contributors of the mosque also regularly incited them not to respect the laws of the Republic. Attacks were justified there, and death as a martyr valued. Finally, the mosque “broadcast a rigorous vision of Islam and hateful publications against Israel,” also according to our sources.…
Kenneth J Johnson says
Only six months, This is only a slap on the wrist. There ts no deterance heree. How about permanently to get the messge across.? KEN
Wellington says
Six months? How about forever? A much better “option” I think.
Idiots and fools are still in charge of the West. Clearly. They’re everywhere and sickening. Maybe the West’s very achievements respecting freedom and affluence have ensured this monumental and suicidal “inclination.” Not sure. As the poet Wordsworth observed, there is rarely one cause for anything.
So, Western Civilization has come to this. Effectively one excuse after another for the one major religion of the world which is evil. The West didn’t used to engage in this nonsense. Does now. Pathetic. Damn stupid too. Whatever the reasons, they’re all wrong.
gravenimage says
Wellington, I don’t believe that freedom is *necessarily* suicidal. This is not always the case.
Wellington says
I agree, gravenimage. Not “necessarily,” and which I did not claim, but possibly (“maybe”—my exact word) because too much ease which the West has created has resulted, arguably, in a “soft” society which does not realize that freedom isn’t free. AOC, that stupid and clueless person, serves as a case in point.
People in free societies must be ever cognitive of the fact that freedom is fragile, quite ephemeral, as well as not being free—and once obtained it can be taken for granted by a later generation (or two) that assume, wrongly, that it is “their right.” AOC again comes to mind, exceedingly foolish woman that she is.
This was my overall point in my above first comment.
mortimer says
We need the ‘freedom’ to persuade Muslims that Islam is absurd, irrational, misogynistic, unhistorical, counter-scientific, opposed to human rights and many other things that are undesirable for a modern, egalitarian society based on rational thought and the Golden Rule.
Islam opposes almost all the principles of modernity.
Muslims are ducks on land or fish out of water. Muslims should remain in Muslim-majority countries or leave Islam entirely.
No one should be permitted to destroy our free, egalitarian society, the best in history and drag it back into the 7th century.
MUSLIMS, WE DON’T WANT TO LIVE IN MOHAMMED’S 7TH CENTURY.
gravenimage says
Agreed, Wellington. Many Westerners *are* soft at this point.
James Lincoln says
Wellington,
I learned a lot of things at Naval Aviation Schools Command (NASC) in Pensacola, the most important thing being:
“Freedom isn’t free.”
In fact it’s a very, very expensive – in both blood and treasure.
Fitna says
Most of us here seem to be fairly literate people who have proactively educated themselves on Islam. I recall I used to be pretty naive about this ideology, until after 9/11, then I quickly learned that it’s a death cult with over a billion members.
Having debated Muslims on online chat forums and getting death threats for telling the truth about their evil death cult, I had no illusions and knew we were definitely in a life and death struggle with these savages.
What’s funny is that I found even the more “moderate” Muslim who sounded (pretended to be) reasonable, educated and intelligent, eventually devolved into a ‘radical’ who’d make threats along with the rest of them.
I remember thinking as I was debating them, that Muslims had absolutely no intention of ‘getting along’ or being honest about their religion. What they wanted to do was silence people like me who were exposing their true agenda. That’s when I knew it’s us vs them, they were at war with us and they had to be defeated, whatever it takes.
Unfortunately most people in the West haven’t gone through that experience, so they’re flying blind and have no idea how dangerous Muslims truly are, this is why they continue to treat them with kid gloves.
I had hoped after 911 the West would’ve been smarter and stronger in dealing with this ideology but ‘Wokeism’ has weakened our culture.
I’m afraid it’s going to take a whole lot of people slaughtered by Muslims in western nations until we finally get the message. It’s because humans are really that stupid that it usually takes mass murder/genocide until we finally wake up and do something.
If Muslims are smart, then they’ll use democratic means to destroy democracy and so far they’ve been very successful in infiltrating Leftist parties who then push their anti-freedom agenda. If millions of us don’t organize and fight back, then the Leftists will help Muslims take over and establish an Islamic state.
Once Muslim goon-squads go around enforcing Sharia, only then will people truly realize the mistake they made in allowing Islam to grow in the West and it might be too late by then. The only option remaining will be civil war.
gravenimage says
That’s been my experience as well, Fitna.
Fitna says
Indeed Graven, it just goes to show most Muslims do think alike and Islam is today’s Nazism.
gravenimage says
Yes–Islam was totalitarian long before Fascism was invented.
Fitna says
Indeed.
James Lincoln says
Fitna,
Thanks for sharing.
Many of us here have had similar experiences.
Wellington says
You can say that again, James. Yes indeed, similar experiences with the dunces who refuse to learn, including well educated dunces and who are the most destructive type of dunces.
gravenimage says
France: Mosque found promoting armed jihad, disrespect for French laws, is closed for six months
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Well, this is better than nothing–but just barely. Will the managing “Rassemblement des Musulmans de Pessac” remain intact? Will any of these thugs be deported? If not, this will start all over again six months hence.
Fitna says
Exactly Graven…as Douglas Murray pointed out, there are two problems in the West. The primary problem is Islamic fascism and the secondary problem is the reaction or pushback against the primary problem.
Our elites have come down like a ton of bricks on the secondary problem and have ignored the primary problem. The reaction to Islam wouldn’t exist if Islam was dealt with by our leaders.
They continue to treat Islam as if its some trivial matter (terrorism, rioting, rape gangs) while the imaginary ‘far-right’ is treated as a bigger threat…it’s only going to get worse because Islam is not being confronted at all.
Their willful ignorance will keep costing the lives of innocents like Samuel Paty until they decide no in fact Muslims are the problem and must be dealt with far more seriously than critics of Islam.
James Lincoln says
Fitna,
To your point, islam could be very effectively marginalized in the West if it were not aided and abetted by muslim apologists.
And these apologists come in all flavors:
1. Leftists
2. JFK Democrats – the few that are left.
3. RINOs
4. Pathetically uninformed – but otherwise reasonable – Republicans.
Unfortunately, there is a dearth of American patriot politicians like Ted Cruz, Michelle Bachmann, etc.
gravenimage says
Fitna, except in a very few cases I don’t think that the reaction to the horrors of Islam are actually a problem at all–that is, criticism of Islam. It is in fact the central part of the solution.
abu taleb says
I think it is so stupid that Christianity is the religion that has the most animosity from people, not Islam. Islam has proven itself that it is an evil religion with its sole purpose is to destroy non muslims and gain wealth and women by robbery and extortion. But somehow, a lot of people are in sympathy with Islam while at the same time are hostile to Christianity. We must be very close to the end of the world.
mortimer says
Reply to AT: the globalist Leftists are calumniating Christianity and giving false praise to Islam, not because Islam has produced any benefit to the world, but because they want Muslims to be seen as ‘VICTIMS’.
By falsely presenting Muslims as ‘victims’, the Leftards are using Muslims for political advantage and as strategic partners to destroy the cultures of Europe and the West in general and create a power vacuum for themselves.
abu taleb says
I found out it was not just theglobalist left who support Islam and were against the Christianity. Religious people from Budhism and Hindu are too.
Cowardness? Or probably see Christianity as a threat because a lot of people may convert to Christianity.
Orbis Sine Jihadi says
It is sad to contemplate that the land of Charles Martel now totters on the brink of supplication to the same evil hordes then defeated. Will the beautiful places in France be renamed in an alien tongue? I still can’t understand this laxity of laws meant to protect Western Society from such a menace as this mosque. Cultural suicide, purely and simply revealed.
mortimer says
OSJ … the French are now poised to push back against the invasion. The coming election is key. The ordinary Frenchman and French woman now realize they must take their country back … now or never. Muslims have voluntarily started to leave France because the French don’t want to hire them or house them.
Muslims cause TOO MANY PROBLEMS and TOO MANY HEADACHES and, based on BITTER experience, the French want NOTHING TO DO with Muslims today.
gravenimage says
Weak as this is, this is actually more than many Western nations are doing right now.
Melc says
In my former Borough in London, Camden, it is now controlled by Muslims and becoming like Tower Hamlets that famous corrupt Muslim borough where even the Labour Party disowned the leader Lutfer Rahman. Through intimidation and threats of violence he had the Muslim community vote him in with the support of the left. Now it is happening all over London and indeed London Mayor Sadiq Khan, a lawyer is using his knowledge to override secular laws to establish Sharia in London. The naive left are also responsible for this thinking they will get into office. More likely the grave!!!
gravenimage says
Disturbing stuff, Mel.
OLD GUY says
WOW, six months, what should be done is close all mosques and help the islamic population relocate back to their islamic countries. Why not cure the problem on a permanent basis. I guess we don’t elect or pay our political leaders to make hard decisions on behalf of our citizens.
spiro says
6 months wow
6 whole months
Then what back to business as usual
So another empty symbol