The closest that leftists and others who are afraid of criticizing Islam come to criticizing anything Islamic is by doing so indirectly, and only when condemning their political opponents, as when they smear republicans as “the Taliban” although they would never condemn the Taliban directly.
Along those lines, a popular pro golfer named Phil Mickelson told longtime golf writer Alan Shipnuck, without any shame, that he’s interested in getting in bed with a Saudi-funded golf league, even after acknowledging that the the Saudis are “scary mother******s”. So obviously Mickelson is a whore with no soul, especially since he also condemned the Professional Golfers’ Association (PGA) for its “strong-arm tactics” and for operating like a “dictatorship,” but then has no qualms whatsoever about taking money from an actual dictatorship run by butchers.
What really stood out for me, however, was the widespread condemnation of Mickelson by his peers and by nearly every leftist sports outlet I saw that covered the story. It was as if they couldn’t wait to pile onto a very successful golfer, out of sheer envy, but to then tried to make it appear as if they were only doing so because they were opposed to dictatorships, when none of them have ever expressed any such condemnation of Saudi Arabia, China, etc.
Mickelson’s full words on this:
They’re scary mother (expletives) to get involved with. We know they killed (reporter Jamal) Khashoggi and have a horrible record on human rights. They execute people over there for being gay.
Knowing all of this, why would I even consider this? Because this is a once-in-a-lifetime opportunity to reshape how the PGA Tour operates. They’ve been able to get by with manipulative, coercive, strong-arm tactics because we, the players, had no recourse. As nice a guy as (PGA Tour commissioner Jay Monahan) comes across as, unless you have leverage, he won’t do what’s right. And the Saudi money has finally given us that leverage. I’m not sure I even want (the Saudi league) to succeed, but just the idea of it is allowing us to get things done with the Tour.
Mickelson went on:
The Tour likes to pretend it’s a democracy, but it’s really a dictatorship. They divide and conquer. The concerns of the top players are very different from the guys who are lower down on the money list, but there’s a lot more of them. They use the top guys to make their own situation better, but the top guys don’t have a say.
Whatever you think of Mickelson’s criticisms of the PGA and of his mercenary solution, it was the overwrought condemnation of Mickelson and only indirectly of Saudi Arabia, that struck me. Mickelson has since apologized for his comments, because they didn’t go over well, and is stepping away from golf for a while. Meanwhile, I’d wager that most of those who condemned Mickelson for even considering getting into bed with the Saudis would have done the same, given the chance. And Mickelson even says as much, that he knows “20 guys who want to do this,” that is, join the Saudi Golf League (SGL). Another famous golfer, Greg Norman, is already in bed with the Saudis.
This indirect condemnation of Islam is now a pretty common thing, and I’ll close with an exchange that I’ve had one too many times over the years:
“All religions are evil.”
“So you think Islam is evil.”
“I didn’t say Islam, okay? I didn’t say that. What I said is that all religions are evil and they’re destroying the world.”
somehistory says
some people will sell their soul to the devil for whatever pleases them.
Many “Twilight Zone” episodes dealt with this very idea…to do whatever the devil wishes for fame, money, sex, etc. The person doing the selling was always sorry at the end of the episode.
some people are “sorry” beforehand…as in “no good.”
somehistory says
Mr BOSCH FAWSTIN,
I was thinking of your artwork just last evening as I contemplated a board game, named by Westman, “Who Killed the Economy,” and the cards that would depict the respective culprits…such as pelosi, biden, schumer, aoc, and knew that if there was such a game, your art abilities would fit perfectly.
You do a very fine job of illustrating your subject.
gravenimage says
+1
Bosch Fawstin says
somehistory, that sounds like a good, fun job. Message me on Facebook and then we can email each other.
somehistory says
I’m glad to hear that. I’m sorry I know nothing about fb, but Mr. Spencer can give my email address to you.
Just ref this comment and in it I give permission for him to share it with you. 🙂
I hope this way is acceptable..
john smith says
I agree with you Somehistory he has an incredible talent. There was a cartoon drawing of Pelosi here at JW not so long ago that captured her personality perfectly. (though I’m sure she wouldn’t agree) I didn’t know who the artist was, but Gravenimage put me right. Yes, I was very impressed with his work.
somehistory says
John,
His work has a certain quality…something that I believe, as an artist, is not easy to copy.
I am no good at caricature…as a realist, it’s too difficult for me, but he does an excellent job, as you say.
john smith says
Somehistory’
If you put that caricature he did of Nancy Pelosi next to a photograph of her, and asked me which was the real Nancy Pelosi. I would pick the caricature every time, he captured her true nature in that one, it was bloody brilliant.
I didn’t know that you were also into art, so I’ve learnt something today, however I am aware that Gravenimage is an artist.
somehistory says
When I was about six years old, my older brother entered a contest to win some art supplies by drawing a little picture. He won and I wanted so badly to draw with it. Later on, in school, an assignment called for drawing a cow in third grade. I impressed myself…which was a major accomplishment for me.
I have sold some of my work…in person and online. I do portraits, landscapes, animals, etc. in oil, watercolor, acrylics, oil pastels, crayon and pencil and with a computer program, Corel. I have no formal training, but I consider that as being in good company…like the artists of old times. It’s very relaxing, but also a challenge.
My son sells a lot of his work online. He began with watercolors I gave him at the age of three, but works mainly with oils. His birds and animals look like the real thing. Makes me proud.
And you are correct about the pelosi piece. Looked more like her than she does. Just wish I had the health I would need to create the game we discussed. It would be something, for sure.
john smith says
Somehistory,
You and your son must be really good if you can sell your work, that alone speaks for itself.
I’ve always admired and appreciated people who possess such creative skills, and I’ve also noticed that many of them that do, are also creative in other things, such as music.
I was very good at art when I was in school, I even got so far as having one of my paintings exhibited in the local art gallery, but it was only along side other children’s work. I use to love drawing and painting pictures, but gave it all up shortly after leaving school. However I did take up copperplate calligraphy later in life, which I still do now.
somehistory says
John,
I have often wished I could do calligraphy. It’s so beautiful. One of my mom’s uncles did work in copper. It’s a beautiful medium. I wish I could see some of your work I’m sure it’s something like what he did, and it was truly admirable.
If you once enjoyed drawing, or painting, you should try again. It gives one such a good feeling; at least it does me. My son bought finger paint for his little girl before she was a year old. she is about to be five and does really well using brushes in acrylic.
She brushes her teeth to her dad singing “Sunday Morning Coming Down,” and when I took care of her while her parents were at the hospital waiting on her sister to be born, she told me I had to sing it while she brushed.
I said, “How does it go?” and she sang it word for word all the way through, perfect pitch and tune. she even lowered her voice like Johnny Cash did at certain points.
My brother who drew, also had a country music band. So, music and art often go together. I’m still not very good on the guitar, but I have hopes of doing better.
john smith says
Somehistory, It doesn’t take long to get the basics of writing in copperplate, after just a little bit of practice your work can look quite impressive. The actual handwriting itself consists of just seven strokes and once you’ve mastered them your well on your way. It’s the flourishing were the actual artistic skill comes in.
Someone who’s artistic (like your son) will pick it up in no time at all. A book I highly recommend is Copperplate Calligraphy by Dick Jackson, it has everything in it for someone that wants to learn.
When I go onto Youtube and view the work of the professionals, it makes me realize just what an amateur I really am, but I enjoy doing it.
I also play the guitar but had a nasty accident several years ago, I had multiple fractures in my right hand and didn’t think I’d ever be able to play again. I don’t have the same dexterity in my fingers anymore, but it has come back to me to a certain degree.
So keep practicing, I’m a firm believer in practice makes perfect.
somehistory says
thank you, John. I’ll have to see if I can get the book for him.
I understand about the guitar playing. My problem, besides tender fingers, is essential tremors. I have had them for nearly all my adult life, and no dr’s can tell me what causes them or how to make them better.
It’s kind a reverse of Parkinson’s
An uncle with at disorder, could just be shaking in hands and head, but pick up his guitar and the shaking would stop while he played. ET is different in that I might not be shaking at all, but reach to use my hands for anything and the shaking begins. It was really bad a couple of days ago and I had to spend just about all day and night flat and trying to relax.
I try to remember the practice thing…my saying is, “practice makes pretty good.” That’s about as far as I can see me doing.
And my guess is, your work is better than you realize. A true artist never sees in his work what others see. I don’t think most of mine is worth spending hard-earned money on, but others have told me how much they like it and some have parted with funds to own it.
I have given a lot of it away. I did a portrait of one of my doctors and another wanted one of himself, so after I did it and gave it to him, he gave me a *credit* on the next bill.
and, I will keep working to get some experience on the guitar. My daughter was sweet enough to give it to me, so I should show some appreciation.
I gave my granddaughter a ukulele and I’m anxious to see her get really good.
john smith says
Somehistory,
I have also developed a shake in my hand, it’s very mild at the moment and no one is aware of it except myself. I first noticed when I was doing the hairline strokes in my handwriting, especially the down strokes I noticed they were slightly shaky. Other people couldn’t see it, but I could. I try to combat it by keeping my hand firm on the pad while I’m writing, but I’d rather that I didn’t have to.
For that reason I haven’t done any writing for sometime now, but I intend to give it another go and see how I get on.
I don’t know how it came about, maybe it was due to the accident I had, or it could be that I’m just getting older. At the moment it hasn’t affected my guitar playing, though I can’t play as well as I could before I had the accident, I can still play.
somehistory says
John, I’m sorry to hear that. I do take vitamin B12 as it can help with nerve problems and I have found that when I can get the sublingual tablets, they do seem to help some with limiting the number of times I have severe tremors. Perhaps they would help you also. Sublingual because acids can keep the body from absorbing it.
It’s when I’m painting tiny things, like eyes, that I notice the worst shaking and it’s very difficult to get what I want without many attempts.
We have to keep trying though. It’s better than giving in.
When I was going blind, I tried painting with my eyes shut to see if I would be able to continue if I completely lost my sight…which, thankfully I did not…The result wasn’t bad…not as much as I expected and I determined that nothing was going to make me give it up completely.
I keep hoping I’ll just quit having the tremors, but even so, I will still give it my best shot.
john smith says
Thanks for the info on the B12 and the sublingual tablets. I haven’t got a clue what those tablets are so I will have to look into that.
It must of been absolutely awful believing that you could be
going blind, I just can’t imagine what you went through. Thank God you didn’t lose your sight, I’m so glad you didn’t I really am.
Take care and keep up with the painting and the guitar,
John Smith
john smith says
Somehistory,
I just checked up sublingual tablets, what a Wally I am. I’d never heard of them before.
somehistory says
thank you so much, John.
It was scary and depressing, so I was trying to find ways to keep from going down emotionally.
About B12, when I was a kid, my doctor gave me shots every so often and they would give me such energy. When I got older, another dr said that my stomach acid was destroying it in the food I ate, so he told me about the vit to put under my tongue. I should have said that when posting the other comment…I didn’t know what the were until he told me.
Hope they help.
thanks again, for the encouragement and being glad for me. I really appreciate that more than you can know!
Infidel says
With all due respect, that’s the problem that arises w/ the common acceptance of islam as a religion. One has to publicly do one of the following: either admit that
‣ All religions are good, implicitly bestowing the same levels of virtue to islam, regardless of its content OR
‣ All religions are evil, and then refusing to explicitly state the implicit conclusion that islam is evil as well
I’m gonna miss Terry here: he was one of the few sensible voices against this ridiculous concept of islam being a religion, thereby inheriting all the protections of the First Amendment. But until this assumption is confronted head-on, we will make little headway. It’s hard for most people who’re not atheists to accept that a religion can be evil: they usually demote it from ‘religion’ status before they do that
somehistory says
islam is an evil worship of an evil demon, commonly called satan the devil in the Bible
It is the same as the people of the land of Canaan worshipped, those who sacrificed their children to molech, the worshippers of ba’al in the land of Israel, the aztecs of the Americas…etc.
mozlums, like those before them, the Canaanites, the Philistines, ba’ al worshippers, molech worshippers, all looked to a “god,” or “gods” as being in control of their lives and did as they thought these wanted done. It was, and is, all doing the “desires” of satan.
Because these fit the definition of “religion” then they are rightfully referred to as religions…but they are evil because they are all worship of satan the devil and are full of lies, rape, murders, etc.
The people who *could* make a difference in how much mozlums do without consequences, won’t do differently …due to fear, profit, getting elected,.. therefore, it really doesn’t matter if islam is referred to as a religion or not.
The Aryan Brotherhood is a “religion” to its members, but many of these have been locked up for their crimes….crimes similar to what mozlums do, in fact. And the authorities who put them away, know all about their “church meetings, ” and their “bible.”
Some people who call themselves Christians, but handle snakes and endanger others, have been arrested for their practices. Some people who call themselves Christian, have been arrested for not taking their children to doctors because they thought it was wrong to do so, and their children suffered, with some dying.
What matters is courage and honesty…not a definition. Of course, that is my opinion and I don’t expect others to agree with me unless they believe I am correct.
gravenimage says
Infidel, Islam is a religion by all definition. There is nothing in the definition of religion that says it has to be either good or true. And as Somehistory notes, there have been evil religions before.
I don’t think that changing our words–or trying to change reality–for Islam is actually particlarly useful.
Bosch Fawstin says
Islam IS a religion, and after one too many religious people defensively and angrily wrote me that “Islam is NOT a religion!”, I wrote this article: 9/11: Act of Faith/Act of War. http://theboschfawstinstore.blogspot.com/2021/09/911-act-of-faithact-of-war.html
Infidel says
You already said – in the quote that I cited – that “All religions are evil!” Proving my very point! If someone doesn’t agree w/ you on that salient point, on what basis would they believe that about islam?
Bosch Fawstin says
I said that? Reread it. It’s a quote, not a statement by me, of some exchanges that I’ve had over the years, where people tell me that “All religions are evil” as a way to avoid calling Islam evil, and which I then call them on it. I think you’re fixated on defending religion, not on telling the truth about Islam, “infidel”, and so you misread what I wrote, in a desperate desire to win “gotcha!”. Read my article that I linked to in my response. I cover it all, as I’m fed up with people denying Islam’s religiosity, in the name of protecting the idea of religion. It completely loses the focus of the problem of Islam. Islam is a religion And it’s evil. I know religionists don’t like hearing that, but it’s true. Religion can be evil. Accept it.
gravenimage says
Yes, religions can be evil. The worship of Baal and the religion of the Ztecs both involved human sacrifice.
Most religions are benignant, or at least have some benignant aspects–but this is not a given.
Mike Ramirez says
Place Islam in the category of “Religious Cult” the most dangerous of all religious cults. Then do homework on the characteristics of s cult. For example, Polygamy; Child Brides; Intense Brainwashing in its belief; Hatred of all outside the group; Inhumane Punishments upon dissenters; Death for Apostasy ; Deception and Lying to non-members being acceptable; Cruel and Unusual Punishment toward women; Forced Obligations to observe specific rituals; Allegiance to a Central Figure whose commands must be obeyed and lifestyle emulated; Complete Control of the daily routine of each individual follower; and most of all, followers are held Captive and are Not Free to make their own choice on matters since all is set forth by the Cult Leader and those in charge of overseeing the followers. More could be added to this list, for example mind control to keep all in line and in servitude to the teaching of the Cult.
OLD GUY says
Islam a cult in-deed. Looks like the shoe fits well. Now if only the true religions would speak out about the Islamic Cult maybe countries would stop recognizing Islam as a religion and recognize it as a political cult, being lead by men who want to control the world. Evil men.
somehistory says
Well-done summation of the matter under discussion.
gravenimage says
The Latest Indirect Condemnation of Islam
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No one should want to get in bed with these Islamic thugs.
ME Infidel says
ESPN is mostly owned by the “woke” Walt Disney Co. The Golf Channel is owned by the Leftist TV Network, NBC.The PGA Tour has a number of sponsors such as AT&T, Citi, MasterCard, JP Morgan Stanley, The Big Kahuna, FedEx, among many others that are extremely politically correct.
The World Golf Championships has promoted Sharia-compliant financing through its partnership with HSBC and the European Tour has its season ending championship known as, The Road to Dubai in the UAE. Of course, these events are all “to grow the game” and have nothing to do with money. Yeah, right!
Mickelson has a net worth of $420m and Norman is in the neighborhood of $300m so money may not be the motivating factor when they they may, in fact, have legitimate concerns with the grip the PGA has on its players. He was also right about his indirect opinion of Islam. He definitely shouldn’t have apologized to the Lefties who control the media.
Lastly, if Muslims and Marxists have infiltrated every one of our traditional institutions, why wouldn’t they also try to control or censor those connected with the elites of golf? Question Everything.
Bosch Fawstin says
I know that many of our corporations are filled with unscrupulous whores who will get in bed with anyone, but it was the widespread condemnation of Mickelson by mostly mainstream outlets, and his peers, over his willingness to get in bed with the Saudis–whom they Never condemn–and who they themselves are or would get in bed with in a spilt second, which is the point of my piece. And even if Mickelson’s concerns with the PGA are legitimate, getting in bed with those he himself refers to as “scary motherfuckers”, speaks volumes of Mickelson, and his lack of morality. And even though Mickelson and Norman are very wealthy, it’s never enough for some, and they have no compunction about how they get it. It was the indirect condemnation of Islam, through Mickelson, that struck me.
gravenimage says
+1
ME Infidel says
I agree that the media, politicians and others are hypocrites when it comes to their enriching themselves while aligning with corrupt and dangerous regimes or individuals.
However, would I cozy up to the Saudis knowing what I know about the Quran, the ProMo, Wahabbism or Sharia? No.
Mickelson has done a lot of good through his Foundation and is a solid conservative family man though a bit of a gambler. https://philmickelson.com/foundation#/
I’ll leave it at, I trust Mickelson way more than I trust the others mentioned.
Andrew Blackadder says
I have personally experienced people agreeing with me when I suggest that all religions are evil, and then I ask them if they think islam is evil and everything changes inside their heads….”Thats not what I meant” they reply, so is islam a religion I ask and if so then you agree that islam is evil…. Something happens inside their minds that gives them a headache because the indoctrination of islam meaning peace just cant jive with islam, like all other religions, is evil… So I ask them to tell me which part of the teachings in islam do they like and this is when I find out they have no idea what islam teaches about anything.
islam means submission I have told them and they dont even know that and when I tell them that islam is a Fascist Religious Cult they freak out telling me that I cant say that, but they are all for free speech,
So I say the Vatican is full of fascist kiddy fuckers,,, Heads nod in agreement…
The Art of Propaganda has been perfected in the 21st Century.
Michael Copeland says
Islam means submission, and submission is code for control, total control.