The Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain is a group of revolting hypocrites who denounce me as a “right-wing extremist” even though they denounce “Islamophobia” here, and even though I have never said and would never say the hateful things they say in their slogans at this festival. And Maryam Namazie, quoted in a section of the article below that I did not include in the excerpt here, is a Communist anti-Semite.
But that’s beside the point. In this case, they’re on the side of the freedom of speech. The telling aspect of this news item is that the Muslim groups are filing a complaint against criticism of Islam. There were people openly displaying Hizballah banners at London’s al-Quds Day rally, and these Muslim groups didn’t say a word. That fact and this complaint indicate that these groups don’t oppose jihad terror, and want to impose Sharia norms forbidding criticism of Islam upon Britain.
“Muslim leaders make formal complaint over ‘Islamophobic’ banners at London Pride,” by Eleanor Rose, Evening Standard, July 14, 2017:
Muslim leaders have lodged a formal complaint with the organisers of London’s Pride festival after placards allegedly bearing Islamophobic messages were spotted at the event.
A secularist group of former Muslims were seen carrying a series of controversial signs during the march through the capital last weekend.
Banners bearing slogans such as “Allah is gay”, “F*** Islamic homophobia” and “East London Mosque incites murder of LGBTs” were carried at the event by members of the Council of Ex-Muslims of Britain (CEMB), who were a participating group listed on Pride’s website.
But leaders from the Muslim community wrote to the event’s organisers to raise concerns the messages incited hatred.
East London Mosque spokesman Salman Farsi told the Standard: “We’ve raised a complaint with the co-chairs of the event that the group was inciting hatred against Muslims, and in particular [in relation] to our good name, based on absolutely groundless reasons.
“Our track record for challenging homophobia in East London is quite well known,” he added, citing campaigns to condemn “gay-hate” stickers that sprung up around Tower Hamlets several years ago and the mosque’s public condemnations of attacks on LGBT people.
“For us to see such a mainstream event that is supposed to celebrate tolerance and love used as a hate platform was really quite shocking.
“One of the signs said ‘Islamophobia is an oxymoron’.
“Our religion doesn’t promote hatred or homophobia. Yes, there might be theological topics dealing with homosexuality in Islam, but that’s clearly very separate from promoting hatred and homophobia,” said Mr Farsi….
Right. Kill ’em, just don’t hate ’em.
Pride has also written to East London Mosque to say it has referred the complaint to its community advisory board, which assesses every parade entry after each year’s march, and “decide on whether CEMB will be allowed to march again in the years ahead.”
Peter Buckley says
More on the event here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SPR0YW1C8cg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=riiPpAiPa_U
https://www.ex-muslim.org.uk/cemb-pride/
lebel says
Note that “communist anti-semite” is one who fails to fully support the state of Israel is all of its actions (the one exception is if Israel is too soft on Muslims).
Robert spencer explains it here: “No one can genuinely oppose jihad without supporting the state that is on the front lines of that jihad, and so I have nothing but contempt for Maryam Namazie.”
And this is the post that started it all:
http://maryamnamazie.blogspot.com/2008/12/stop-genocide-perpetrated-by-israeli.html
So anti-semitism is failure to support and daring to criticize Israel’s bombing of Gaza.
ElderlyZionist says
Okay, I read the post Ms. Namazie writes in the names of the ‘Left Worker-communist Party of Iraq’, and she denounces Israel’s just and necessary defensive war against Hamas terrorists attacking from Gaza as ‘genocide’, which is an evil lie. Seems to support Robert’s evaluation quite well.
gravenimage says
Firstly, that “bombing of Gaza” is in defense over missiles being launched at Israeli civilians.
Secondly, pretending that wanting to see Israel destroyed and the genocide of the Jews is no different from ordinary criticism is just appalling.
Just the sort of thing we have come to expect from the vicious lebel, though.
Raja says
The political elite and the authorities need to understand that it is Muslims who are imposing their supremacist will on every human possible, including ex-Muslims.
Is there a need to continue with this modern day evil under the guise of Islamophobia?
Islamophobia is indeed a con job done by Muslims to extend their greed for global land thievery, hegemony and subjugation by any lie. Muslim elites have perfected the art of lying.
JawsV says
“Allah is gay.” That’s my favorite!
In accord with this topic everyone should watch Pat Condell’s “Message to Offended Muslims” (2016) video on you tube! It’s very funny! Please tune in!
Karen says
Mr. Farsi doesn’t like it when the shoe is on the other foot. Note how he readily equates signs disparaging Islam with hatred for Muslims. Yet he cites the distinction between ‘hating the sin but loving the sinner’ within Islam. (A concept from the Christian community, btw.)
dfddsffdfdsfdsfdsfd says
Allah is not real. It’s a figment of an Arab warlods’s diseased imagination.
JawsV says
Multitudes of Muslims worshipping Allah is a mass psychosis.
JawsV says
The worship of Allah is a mass psychosis.
mortimer says
Islam is collective toxic narcissism.
abad says
Allah is actually Satan but either way, Allah is a false god. Allah is the moon god in Arabia, an idol, a false god.
David M says
Allah is the ancient Egyptian moon god that Muhammad happened to choose as the pretend God he was getting instructions from, he is no more real than Kermit the Frog.
maghan says
Not Egyptian at all. How about “Allah is the moon god for the primitive Arabs of Arabia”?
Nico says
Quite right. The Egyptians had a WAY more advanced cosmology than the animist Arabs. They were pressured into letting some of the very first Muslim armies ‘settle’ in camps near their cities… what could possibly go wrong? And now they’re Copts, at least those that have resisted conversion to Islam for the last 1200-odd years. Not a very good deal.
And I am upset by the assertion that Kermit the Frog is not real. You should tread lightly on other people’s deeply-held beliefs…
gravenimage says
UK: Muslim leaders make formal complaint over “Islamophobic” banners at London Pride
………………
How dare Muslims leave Islam? Now that is “hate”…
mortimer says
How HYPOCRITICAL of Muslims to complain about ‘HATE’ !!!
All Muslims MUST ‘HATE’ dirty kafirs ‘for the sake of Allah’.
Hate is an official teaching of Islam.
gravenimage says
All true, Mortimer.
Guest says
The Pink News comments are mainly in favour of freedom of speech and criticism of all religions. So they are waking up.
Peter Buckley says
You may be interested in this:
UK’s first “gay muslim wedding”:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4697818/Torn-heart-faith.html
Despite what most JW readers seem to think, Islam itself is collapsing, ironically through the actions of “muslims”. The violence and lies the most devout among them (“Islamists”) feel compelled to tell is testimony to their desperation. Probably most muslims don’t even practice Islam, a fact recognised by Muhammad himself:
“There will be no trace of Islam in some believers…”
(Sahih Bukhari, 9.84.65)
Guest says
Peter, you are certainly a great optimist.
gravenimage says
Unfortunately, right now Islam is being allowed to spread faster in the West–with almost unlimited invasion–than it is being eroded by apostasy.
Westman says
Apparently , when caught in kafirophobia actions, the Muslim leaders can only cry islamophobia against the reaction to their own abysmal record on homophobia and lie about official doctrine.
Guest says
A group of people voicing the opinion in a country where free speech is dead. Music to my ears.
Lydia says
They are trying to do away with freedom of speech and the government is succumbing to them and their sharia agenda. I, for one, will always criticize islam as well as the sin of homosexuality because both are wrong. But I am not trying to impose anything upon anyone, but I will simply exercise my right to freedom of speech on these matters, whether they choose to respect that right… or not. The fact is that for both of these choices of life, behind each one is an agenda and it includes harnessing compliance and silencing any opposition in any way. There is propaganda in place for all of these and one strategy they use is to tack on the suffix ‘phobia’ behind these terms. For instance, suppose they want people to embrace pedophiles. To suppress any opposition to it, they can add the suffix ‘phobia’ and get ‘pedophilophobia’ and anyone who criticizes pedophilia is now slandered with this new label to usher them into compliance for fear of being labeled some sort of anit-diversity ‘hater’ and ‘bigot.’ Any other viewpoints are pushed aside in favor of their own. Only those with true backbone will resist this cattle prodding tactic and continue to criticize what is bad.
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roger woodhouse says
Without a ‘leader’or standard bearer than can be no fight back.The left have made it virtually impossible to make a stand against creeping Islam.What is it going to take for true Brits to crush this evil doctrine?
Makenomistake says
It is time to act for the people of the Western world. They can now stop islam , before it is late, from propagating to the land of their great ancestors who gave their blood for a country and nation where their posterity can leave a free and fearless life. Islam has now come to their land to destroy their peace be peace for ever. Now it is time to wake up and drive all those islamists, not back to their wretched countries, but start to hell.
The time has come. Future peace is to be assured through today’s measures. Tough and final.
Makenomistake says
‘Live a free…’ sorry
mortimer says
The Leftarded agenda is contradictory and so is their message. They agree with the Islamists to point A, but differ with them about point B.
The utopia Leftards wish is different from the Sharia utopia (hell) that Islamists want.
Their slogans can only be contradictory.
mortimer says
What does Sharia law say about punishing homosexuals ? – flogging, stoning, thrown from high place, wall pushed over to crush, burning to death !!!
Homosexuality is not only a sin, but a crime under Islamic law.
– Islam Question and Answer says: “The crime of homosexuality is one of the greatest of crimes, the worst of sins and the most abhorrent of deeds, and Allaah punished those who did it in a way that He did not punish other nations. It is indicative of violation of the fitrah, total misguidance, weak intellect and lack of religious commitment, and it is a sign of doom and deprivation of the mercy of Allaah.”
– In the Hanafi school of thought, the homosexual is first punished through harsh beating, and if he/she repeats the act, the death penalty is to be applied.
– In the Shafi`i school of thought, the homosexual receives the same punishment as adultery (if he/she is married) or fornication (if not married). This means, that if the homosexual is married, he/she is stoned to death, while if single, he/she is whipped 100 times. Hence, the Shafi`i compares the punishment applied in the case of homosexuality with that of adultery and fornication.
– In the Hanafi school, the two acts are differentiated, because anal sex [something that is prohibited, regardless of orientation] may also be involved, while in adultery [and fornication], the penis/vagina (which are reproductive parts) are involved.
– Some scholars hold the opinion that homosexuals should be thrown from a high building or stoned to death as a punishment for their crime, but other scholars maintain that they should be imprisoned until death occurs through starvation.
-Some of them (Islamic jurists) said that he should be punished in the same way as an adulterer, so he should be stoned if he is married and flogged if he is not married.
-Another view is that between two males, the active partner is to be lashed a hundred times if he is unmarried, and killed if he is married; whereas the passive partner is to be killed regardless of his marital status.
-Abd-Allaah ibn ‘Abbaas said: The highest point in the town should be found and the homosexual should be thrown head first from it, then stones should be thrown at him.
Ibn ‘Abbaas derived this hadd punishment from the punishment that Allaah sent upon the homosexuals of the people of Loot.
– It is narrated from Khaalid ibn al-Waleed that he found a man among one of the Arab tribes with whom men would have intercourse as with a woman. He wrote to Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq (may Allaah be pleased with him) and Abu Bakr al-Siddeeq consulted the Sahaabah (may Allaah be pleased with them). ‘Ali ibn Abi Taalib had the strongest opinion of all of them, and he said: “No one did that but one of the nations, and you know what Allaah did to them. I think that he should be burned with fire.” So Abu Bakr wrote to Khaalid and he had him burned.
mortimer says
Mr. Farsi is LYING: “Our religion doesn’t promote hatred or homophobia. Yes, there might be theological topics dealing with homosexuality in Islam, but that’s clearly very separate from promoting hatred and homophobia,” said Mr Farsi….
-Imam Abdul-Latif ibn Abdur-Rahman Rahimullah said, “It is not possible for someone to realize Tawheed and act upon it, and yet not be hostile against the mushrikeen. So anyone who isn’t hostile against the mushrikeen, then it cannot be said that he acts upon Tawheed nor that he realizes it.” [ad-Durar as-Saniyyah 8/167]
-“The doctrine of al Walaa wal Baraa is the REAL IMAGE for the actual practice of this faith.” – source “Al Walaa wal Baraa According to the Aqeedah of the Salaf”, by Sheikh Muhammad Saeed al Qatani, authoritative Saudi Sharia lawyer and imam at the Abu Bakr and Al Furqan Mosques in Mecca. – https://islamfuture.wordpress.com/2009/08/20/al-wala-wal-bara-according-to-the-aqeedah-of-the-salaf-parts-123/
ISLAM HAS A DOCTRINE OF HATE: ‘AL BARAA’ = Apartheid
Al Bughoud = Hatred of Kafirs for the sake of Allah, or Al Mu’adaat, this is the opposite of Al Muwalaat (love of Muslims), it is:
– To Hate
– To keep distance from
– To be enemy to
– To desert
– To decline to help
– To disrespect
– To put down
– Not to ally with
– Not to support
Allah ordered Muslims to have Baraa (separation), from the kuffar and from kufr and shirk.
Michael Copeland says
Hatred?
“…between us and you enmity and hatred forever…”
Koran 60:4
John A. Marre says
Not a word from the left about the very essence of Islam: hate for those who will not submit.
Don Foss says
Simply quote and cite the Qur’an and Ahadeeth, and how will they protest or complain about that. Come on…be smart. There is tons of material in there.
Tom says
“The enemy of my enemy is my friend” is a saying well known and associated to the middle east.
While not our friends, these ex muslims are certainly helping us fight the Islam that they left.
By the displaying of those signs they draw attention to the violence against gays propogated by Islamic teachings and that gives further credibility to our efforts to educate and inform those ignorant of Islamic preaching of violence.