What if the offender had been a Muslim who believed that Islam is right about women? He wouldn’t have been charged in that case, of course, but apparently the offender was a non-Muslim who was being sarcastic, and apparently New Zealand expect passersby to be able to discern that sarcasm in the bare statement “Islam is Right about Women” and as a result conceive “hate” in their hearts. My oh my, the new speech rules of our moral superiors are so convoluted. But they always work out the same way in any case: any criticism of Islam, no matter how fact-based, no matter how focused on the defense of human rights, is demonized, stigmatized, marginalized, and silenced.
“Man who wrote hate speech outside mosque spoken to by police,” Stuff, December 15, 2020 (thanks to The Religion of Peace):
Police have spoken with a man who left a hate speech message written in chalk outside the Masjid An-Nur in Christchurch.
Stuff understands the words “Islam is Right about Women” were chalked outside the mosque on Deans Ave on Saturday.
Canterbury District Commander Superintendent John Price said on Tuesday officers had “located and spoken to” a 36-year-old man in relation to a number of chalk messages written on footpaths throughout Christchurch including Masjid An-Nur Mosque, the Linwood Islamic Centre and several police stations.
“We appreciate this behaviour has drawn much attention and we want to thank the public for letting us know about it.
“We also want to use this opportunity to remind the public that if you see any behaviour that causes concern, to contact police.”…
Keith O says
What always concerns about these “hate speech laws” is, who decides what is hate speech?
Given the diverse thought patterns of humans what would be viewed a hate speech by one person could be thought of as high praise by another.
From what I have observed these are “anti thought laws” and the so called laws are only directed toward infidels.
Mudslimes seem to be something of a protected species.
a l f says
INFIDELS ARE GAGGED
revereridesagain says
Isn’t that the same statement that was stuck up on lamp posts in Winchester, Massachusetts, a year or two back? It appears to be deliberately aimed toward provoking controversy. What does Islam say about women? That their worth is half that of men? Is this a Muslim posting these statements or someone looking to provoke questions about what Islam has to say about women?
And how are these tools going to prove that this simple statement is “hate speech”? Because it is written on a sidewalk by a non-Muslim?
Straight out of “1984”.
2+2=4, no matter what the “O’Briens” of the world try to torture us into believing.
gravenimage says
+1
Giacomo Latta says
My guess is that if you do not particularly look muslim and you say something nice about Islam you will still face an inquisition committee that will look into your past. With a little luck a lot of democrats would be swept up in that process.
James Lincoln says
Let me get this straight:
A non-muslim is questioned by police over “hate speech” for writing ‘Islam is Right about Women’ outside a mosque.
I cannot follow the logic…
If he actually *meant* what he said then the statement would have been complimentary.
If he was being sarcastic, and meant that islam is actually *wrong* about women, that would have been a true statement.
Am I missing something?
somehistory says
There are people who are not moslims, but who believe that there are special rules for women that make them less “equal.”
Perhaps this individual is one of those. Or, perhaps he is one who feels strongly that moslims mistreat women and young girls and wants to make people think, to wake them up.
Something needs to wake up those who have the view that islam is like any other belief and is just ‘misunderstood’ by many.
One would need to ask the guy who wrote it why. But, how is it hate speech? For whom does the writer show hatred by this statement?
If he is not hating how moslims treat women, how is it hate against them? If he is hating how moslims treat women, doesn’t that show a concern for women to point out what moslims do wrong?
It must just be that pointing out the Truth is equal to hate speech.
tim gallagher says
The authorities seem to be suffering from paranoia these days. I agree with revereridesagain”s comment, just up above,that the person who wrote this comment was probably trying to get people to take a look at the misogynistic attitude that islam has towards women. It seems like harmless graffiti to me, and, in more mellow and sane times like we used to have, no-one would have bothered about it. Freedom of speech is having a very hard time in these paranoid days.
gravenimage says
This same meme showed up in Massachusetts last year–motive still unknown, I believe:
“‘Islam is right about women’: Odd signs spark confusion in local town”
https://www.boston25news.com/news/-islam-is-right-about-women-odd-signs-spark-confusion-in-local-town/987837653/
tim gallagher says
Thanks for the information, gravenimage. That must be where the New Zealand graffiti chalker got the idea from. At least, as they say in this report about New Zealand, all the police did was have a word with this truly appalling miscreant. I just wish that people would lighten up a bit and let people give reasonably free expression to what they are thinking. This sign seems quite clever to me and I feel sure that it might actually get a few of the sleepwalkers in society to go and take a look at the nasty attitudes that islam has towards women. To call this a “hate speech message”, as mentioned in the report, seems ludicrous to me.. Pretty bloody mild to be called “hate”. Everything these days offends some clown or other.
gravenimage says
Agreed, Tim.
alf says
ISLAM IS NASTY
Donovan Nuera says
That person who did that was awesome. We also need to put ones that say “Mohmmad was correct about slavery/apostacy/blasphemy! (and put a smiley face on it)
tim gallagher says
I agree, Donovan. The slogan you have come up with is excellent. Such signs might create enough curiosity for some people to go and check out the loathsome attitudes of Islam to most aspects of human life.
alf says
its feminist push back for appesasing muhammadans
Infidel says
Reminds me of a cartoon I saw on Twitter some years ago, before they started going all woke.
All in a nutshell!
James Lincoln says
Wow!!!
gravenimage says
*Spot on*, Infidel, Thanks for sharing that.
Donovan Nuera says
The best way to educate the young about the brutality of real islam is to mock its tenets. It is the ONLY religion that sanctifies the murder of apostates and blasphemers. This main tenet was confirmed yet again by Pope Francis’ BFF Mufti Sheikh al-Tayyab on the Egyptian TV interview show from 2016 that M.E.M.R.I. has showed multiple times on their website as well as by Mr. Spencer. Why this is not fomenting international outrage by the Human Rights Activists on par with the protests against Apartheid in the 1980s is beyond me.
Mockery and Satire is the best weapon. America, thank God, is full of comedians!
tim gallagher says
Infidel, that is great, It absolutely skewers the double standards of the left and their imbecilic failure to criticise barbaric Islam. Whoever wrote it was brilliant.
Beneath the Veil of Consciousness says
Yeah, how about there’s a bunch of people who meet in this building who follow the teachings of a dead child molester, sex slave owner, rapist, and mass murderer. Alarming enough to warrant your attention?
Theo102 says
O you who have believed, it is not lawful for you to inherit women by compulsion. And do not make difficulties for them in order to take [back] part of what you gave them unless they commit a clear immorality. And live with them in kindness. For if you dislike them – perhaps you dislike a thing and Allah makes therein much good.
Quran, Surah 4:19
notnolib says
And get two witnesses out of your own men. And if there are not two men (available), then a man and two women, such as you agree for witnesses, so that if one of them (two women) errs, the other can remind her.
They defeated them and took them captives. Some of the Companions of the Apostle of Allah (may peace be upon him) were reluctant to have intercourse with the female captives in the presence of their husbands who were unbelievers. So Allah, the Exalted, sent down the Qur’anic verse: (Sura 4:24) “And all married women (are forbidden) unto you save those (captives) whom your right hands possess.” (Abu Dawud 2150, also Muslim 3433)
mohammed, the pig-faced dog inventor of islam and allah the moon god.
gravenimage says
+1
john smith says
+2
gravenimage says
Theo102 wrote:
O you who have believed, it is not lawful for you to inherit women by compulsion. And do not make difficulties for them in order to take [back] part of what you gave them unless they commit a clear immorality. And live with them in kindness. For if you dislike them – perhaps you dislike a thing and Allah makes therein much good.
Quran, Surah 4:19
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“Theo” here hopes you won’t read on to the following Suras, telling Muslims it is lawful to rape women they have taken as sex slaves. He also hopes you are ignorant of the verses on wife beating, on women being of less worth than men, and the Hadith on raping little girls. *Ugh*.
This poster has been here before, spouting apologia for Jihad terror and for stealing from unbelievers. Here’s one such:
Theo102 says
Apr 4, 2019 at 11:30 pm
You’re not going understand jihad is unless you know what it means to fight in the way of Allah.
Certainly was Allah pleased with the believers when they pledged allegiance to you, [O Muhammad], under the tree, and He knew what was in their hearts, so He sent down tranquillity upon them and rewarded them with an imminent conquest
And much war booty which they will take. And ever is Allah Exalted in Might and Wise.
Allah has promised you much booty that you will take [in the future] and has hastened for you this [victory] and withheld the hands of people from you – that it may be a sign for the believers and [that] He may guide you to a straight path.
And [He promises] other [victories] that you were [so far] unable to [realize] which Allah has already encompassed. And ever is Allah, over all things, competent.
And if those [Makkans] who disbelieve had fought you, they would have turned their backs [in flight]. Then they would not find a protector or a helper.
[This is] the established way of Allah which has occurred before. And never will you find in the way of Allah any change.
Quran 48:18-23
https://www.jihadwatch.org/2019/04/new-zealand-deputy-pm-under-fire-for-saying-in-2005-that-muslim-communities-in-nz-have-militant-underbelly#comment-2081013
One nasty piece of work–this fool also thinks that he is “defending Islam” here–when in reality he is just exposing its ugliness..
john smith says
Spot on GI
gravenimage says
Thank you, John.
notnolib says
What about gays? Isn’t islam right about gays too?
somehistory says
moslims and their supporters…in government, LE, social groups, etc….are just disagreeable. moslims do not like it when the Truth is told about islam.
moslims don’t like it when what they do, what they teach, and what they say is publicized. A moslim can get on television, on video, on a street corner and shout about anything in their filthy book…and nothing happens.
Just let a non moslim say the same things…with ” ” around their words, giving sources…filthy book, some imam, cleric, etc….and all blank breaks loose.
So, they don’t like it when someone says that ‘isalm is not peaceful’ as the attorney in TN said…and they strongly disagree…they’d commit violence if they could get away with it.
And they show the same anger when the Truth is told by quoting them or their book. Or, as in this case, just agreeing with their ideas, making them public.
moslims are disagreeable and every word is “hate speech” when they want it to be.
James Lincoln says
somehistory says,
“And they show the same anger when the Truth is told by quoting them or their book. Or, as in this case, just agreeing with their ideas, making them public.”
Perfectly stated!
gravenimage says
So true, Somehistory.
gravenimage says
New Zealand: Police question man over ‘hate speech’ for writing ‘Islam is Right about Women’ outside mosque
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Note that there is no problem with Islam’s mutilating girls, forced marriage of children, organized oppression of women, divorce for men only, wife beating, and “Honor Killing”–but make fun of this and it is “hate speech”.
Suicidal insanity.
Donovan Nuera says
PM Jacinda to make heartfelt tearful plea on the news wearing niqab in 3….2…..1…
Ade Fegan says
As if arresting people isn’t “hateful” !
Rowena Haldane says
Its the last 2 sentences that raised my hackles. Who dobbed the guy in? Concerned members of the public who the NZ Police thanked and added “quote “to report any behaviour that causes concern” to the police.” Where to from here?